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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Hathor the Cowgoddess --Hathor lives in the middle of urban sprawl with her dearest super-husband and three wee and wise kids. She has had an unassisted birth in the middle of her 700 square foot apartment, she breastfeeds on demand and in public, she shares sleep, maintains constant contact and unschools. Not only does she do all of this, she does it with grand style and verve. With extravagant and outrageous behavior. And with her trusty sidekick baby in a sling.

Hathor is the completely true product of the imagination of Heather Cushman-Dowdee, an outraged (because she might look distracted but she is paying attention! ) mama who has done almost all of the above (that part is autobiography)... except for the part that she totally makes up (those parts are wishful thinking). The raucous exploits of Hathor and her family are produced in comic form on the web and printed in many, many zines and magazines and books, too.

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11/9/05

51 mothers in attendance!

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20:58:05 Mod_Beckie She's here
20:58:06 senseimama She is here!!
20:58:09 hathor Hello!
20:58:11 Webmama_Tina oh there she is!!!
20:58:13 Webmama_Tina WOOHOO!!!
20:58:17 Raynbow Hi, Hathor!  :)
20:58:19 amoreena yep i see her
20:58:21 Jenivere Hi!
20:58:22 senseimama HATHOR! HATHOR! HATHOR!
20:58:27 angelfunk woohoo!
20:58:30 hathor Thanks! And Hathor has entered the building. hee hee
20:58:33 Webmama_Tina 2 min to chat time
20:58:42 senseimama I am too nervous to type!
20:58:50 amoreena what is one supposed to say to a cow goddess?
20:58:51 Jenivere LOL
20:58:51 Webmama_Tina lol hathor the celebrity cowmama
20:58:57 hathor cool. I'll just sit here and you can talk amongst yourselves
20:58:59 Webmama_Tina moo?
20:59:07 kristenirene *woohoo*
20:59:09 Webmama_Tina ok raise your hand if you're nak'n
20:59:13 senseimama First, I LOVE your work!
20:59:23 hathor As long as you're throwing presents you can say whatever you want
20:59:24 Raynbow Dittto!
20:59:28 Jenivere I was a moment ago
20:59:31 Mama_Faery Hello? Did this work?
20:59:37 angelfunk i love your book hathor!
20:59:39 Mama_Faery wait, yep, it did. hehe
20:59:45 hathor Aw shucks! ain't nothing but a thing
20:59:48 Jenivere I adore your comics
20:59:48 Mama_Faery Hathor, your book is wonderful. :)
21:00:02 hathor My book! Someone's read my book?
21:00:04 Jenivere I share them with my more mainstream board when I get the chance
21:00:06 Webmama_Tina beckie, in a minute i may need your help cuz i've got a fussy baby...if you see a lag, just assume the baby is making it hard for me and fill in teh blanks, lol
21:00:22 Webmama_Tina ok i got 6pm
21:00:32 Spookygirl okay, I am herding too, so I will do my best
21:00:35 Webmama_Tina lets get this show on the road!!! :) here comes the spiel
21:00:39 Raynbow I print out your comics and leave them  around for my mainstream coworkers to find... :)
21:00:41 Webmama_Tina angie's here too
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21:01:06 Journey Hey, hathor... have you participated in any UC bbs?
21:01:09 Firewmmom Am I hear in the right room now
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21:04:43 Webmama_Tina ok enough spiel
21:04:45 Webmama_Tina now....
21:05:00 jessasmilkmama hi everyone
21:05:02 Webmama_Tina we are SOOOOO happy to be blessed with hathor the cowgoddess!!
21:05:13 Webmama_Tina hathor, why don't you introduce yourself while i try to appease my fussy baby
21:05:15 Webmama_Tina :)
21:05:21 Mama_Faery *applause*
21:05:27 Webmama_Tina :)
21:05:33 MilkyMom Yay!
21:05:36 Mama_Faery ;-)
21:05:37 hathor Aw thanks! I'm Heather Cushman-Dowdee the creator of the comic Hathor the cowgoddess
21:05:58 hathor I'm just a mom with a sharpie pen and some silly thoughts
21:06:23 arly Hello Heather from Arly (KVMR)
21:06:26 senseimama ?
21:06:44 Mod_Beckie Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
21:06:45 hathor Hi everybody, I'm so glad you were able to come!
21:07:06 hathor Has anyone read my new book?
21:07:22 hathor Oh, I'm supposed to answer questions!
21:07:23 Mama_Faery Yes! Yay! (sorry, we were asked a question!)
21:07:39 hathor hee hee hee lol
21:07:47 MilkyMom I haven't read it yet.  It's on my Christmas list :)
21:07:50 Journey ?
21:08:03 Mama_Faery ?
21:08:23 Webmama_Tina hathor...lol...i'm sure everyone will have lots to ask you...abgie is our queuekeeper
21:08:28 Webmama_Tina angie
21:08:31 Webmama_Tina sorry
21:08:35 Webmama_Tina nak'n
21:08:44 cheantelle it's on my wish list too!  can hardly wait for it.  :)
21:08:46 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
21:09:37 Webmama_Tina if i can get this baby to sleep i'll be more coherent
21:09:50 Dayna Hi Heather!
21:09:59 angelfunk ?
21:10:12 Dayna Still recovering from Disneyland?
21:10:14 Spookygirl I guess Angie has stepped away
21:10:32 Mod_Beckie Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
21:10:37 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  senseimama,  Journey,  Mama_Faery,  angelfunk
21:10:40 hathor Did Journey have a question?
21:10:42 Webmama_Tina there she is
21:10:54 Webmama_Tina senseimama is first...
21:10:59 Mod_Beckie Okay, LOL!!
21:11:03 MOD_Angie I didn't know u were ready
21:11:06 MOD_Angie sry
21:11:13 Webmama_Tina lol we'll get it
21:11:31 Webmama_Tina we're mamas, we can multitask, right? lol
21:11:39 mnhottya ?
21:11:45 Dayna ?
21:12:06 senseimama ?
21:12:07 hathor right now I'm stirring marinara with my toes while typing. But then I've got 8 arms....I'm cool that way
21:12:12 Journey Oh... I'm here.... ummm... I wanted to know, hathor.... have you participated in any UC bbs? Just wondering if I may have seen you around there.
21:12:36 senseimama I have a question about breastfeeding
21:12:49 hathor Is that like an unassisted childbirth barb-b-q?
21:13:07 Journey bulletin boards... lol
21:13:22 Dayna lol
21:13:23 senseimama Can one exclusively breastfeed for the first year?
21:13:35 Webmama_Tina ok looks like we have journey up to bat currently....then senseimama
21:13:36 hathor Oh yes, I did go there alot for birth stories, I had a voracious appetite for them when I was pregnant!
21:13:53 Webmama_Tina hathor can multitask w/those 8 arms, right? lol
21:14:37 Webmama_Tina lets all remember to patiently wait our turn...angie is keeping the queue and will let ya know who's up
21:14:40 hathor Hi senseimama, oh yes. Although by the second and third child it's really hard to keep food out of their mouth they're grabbing and stuffing...
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21:15:21 senseimama APA says 6 months and then has all these guidlines for feeding solids? Do I just ignore all that crap?
21:15:39 hathor But I've managed to not use any milk, formula, bottles or babyfood and I'm not any kid of supermom. (ok yes I am but that's just me.)
21:15:41 senseimama I mean information
21:15:56 hathor Totally ignore that crap. for sure. Here's what you do
21:16:39 hathor just put your baby on your lap and around 8 months + maybe longer let them try some stuff off your plate. sweet potatoes are a fav around here
21:17:35 hathor You don't ever have to make them something separate if you just keep them in mind when you're cooking and no worries if they eat anything at all, they'll get what they need from the booby later
21:17:46 senseimama How long can the little ones go on just breastmilk?
21:18:09 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  Journey,  Mama_Faery,  angelfunk,   mnhottya,  Dayna
21:18:58 hathor When my oldest was little (2 yo)  she would sometimes revert back to just breastmilk when she was sick for days even a week almost. ..
21:19:14 jadebabylon whew....finally got home! Hi everyone! :)
21:19:28 senseimama Thanks so much for your imput and time! I love your work!
21:19:30 hathor Just follow the babies lead, they know what they need...
21:19:58 senseimama You rock like no Mother has ever rocked before!
21:20:10 Webmama_Tina hi jadebabylon
21:20:13 hathor But did want to mention that just because they reach doesn't mean they're hungry, just curious...
21:20:16 Webmama_Tina we're taking turns
21:20:25 Webmama_Tina glad you made it!
21:20:28 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
21:20:51 jadebabylon thanks for filling me in :)
21:21:01 hathor Next?
21:21:03 MOD_Angie hathor, ready for next ?
21:21:04 MOD_Angie lol
21:21:05 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): Journey, Mama_Faery, angelfunk, mnhottya, Dayna
21:21:06 Webmama_Tina hathor when you're ready for the next question just let us know
21:21:17 MOD_Angie man, we are on the ball tonight gals!
21:21:20 Webmama_Tina :)
21:21:26 Webmama_Tina lo
21:21:27 hathor cool, hey Journey so did I meet you online already?
21:21:28 Webmama_Tina lol
21:21:52 Journey I don't know... did you ever participate in the Parents Place Unassisted Bulletin Boards?
21:22:06 Journey Your name seems familiar, that's why I'm asking....
21:22:25 Journey unassisted childbirth bb that is.
21:22:26 hathor Yep. I think I posted a couple of times, though I stick mostly to the mothering boards (hi!)
21:22:39 Journey Great to see you again... and you're famous!
21:22:52 hathor really? little old me?
21:23:16 hathor Hi mama_fairy got a question?
21:23:24 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): Mama_Faery, angelfunk, mnhottya, Dayna,
21:23:46 Mama_Faery Yes, sorry, babe was awake. hehe. I guess I really just want to know how you manage to stick by your values/philosophies without alienating others? I don't mean the general public...I mean like friends.
21:24:19 Mama_Faery I have a dear friend who, unfortunately, was totally unable to breastfeed. It broke her heart. :( :(
21:24:31 hathor Well, my oldest is 8 so by now I've pretty much weeded out all the people who don't agree with me...heee heeee lol
21:24:38 Mama_Faery The thing is, she has turned from any sort of attachment parenting whatsoever!
21:24:57 hathor Ooops, now that sounded too jubilent.
21:25:12 MOD_Angie Got a question for Hathor The Cowgoddess: just type a ? in the chat, and I will add you to the chat queue
21:25:21 Mama_Faery whenever I try to share anything I've read (like your comic for example! Heh), she bristles or gets hurt and says that we're all crazy and/or Nazis...*sigh*
21:25:28 hathor I move around a lot, and whenever I get somewhere new I go to lLLL meetings and make all new friends
21:26:06 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
21:26:25 hathor Yeah, it's hard to feel guilty when you can't breastfeed...and easy to blame the promoters of it
21:26:26 Mama_Faery And I *love* her and know it's just her own pain coming out...but it's hard sometimes, you know? I'm still a relatively new mama (well, my babe is 18 months!) and I just want to be able to have my own philosophies and not get attacked on either side for ho
21:26:54 Mama_Faery agh...I'm not sure I'm making much sense. (oops, color change! Sorry!)
21:27:23 hathor Instead of really looking at how the  staff of the hospital may have let you down...
21:28:04 jmlatham I have a question about VBACs.  I had a myomectomy in 2001 and then gave birth to my first child in 2004.  I would like to have another child, but I want to do it naturally.
21:28:12 Webmama_Tina Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
21:28:35 jmlatham Sorry
21:28:38 jadebabylon ?
21:28:42 jmlatham ?
21:28:44 Webmama_Tina no worries :)
21:28:45 Mama_Faery well, thank you so much Hathor. You keep me in touch with my California roots ;) and I love knowing I'm not the only one" out there!"
21:28:47 Mama_Faery :)
21:30:14 hathor Cool. I wish I could be less of a polarizing personality. In real life I know many mamas who walk down other paths and I hate that there's division...but I don't really feel that the division is our problem so much as poor choices and or lack of information.
21:30:47 mamaofthree HI!
21:31:03 hathor That's why it's so important that we help young people get cool info before they show at the hospital!
21:31:10 hathor New question?
21:31:10 Webmama_Tina hi mamaofthree glad you made it!
21:31:13 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): angelfunk, mnhottya, Dayna, jadebabylon,  jmlatham,
21:31:19 Webmama_Tina we're taking turns
21:31:23 Webmama_Tina Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
21:31:45 Myztri ?
21:32:03 mamaofthree ?
21:32:05 hathor angelfunk? or mnhottya?
21:32:09 mnhottya Hi! Michelle from Arizona here, thanks for the support of our efforts to get the breastfeeding protection laws passed here! My question is, how do you manage to squeeze time in your life for work? I'm new to working from home and find it, well, challenging
21:32:38 angelfunk sorry, i thought my name had to be called first
21:32:44 angelfunk i'll go after mnhottya if that's ok
21:32:52 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): angelfunk, mnhottya, Dayna, jadebabylon, jmlatham,  Myztri
21:33:04 hathor You have to embace a couple of philosophie, one that kids don't need constant attention...I got that from Jean Liedloff my fav!
21:34:06 hathor Also, that I work out everything in my head. When we're walking and nursing so that when I find a bit of time It only takes about 20 minutes to do a comic.
21:34:09 mnhottya She's on my list to read... our tribe is passing around the book!
21:34:23 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): angelfunk, Dayna, jadebabylon, jmlatham,  Myztri,  mamaofthree
21:34:44 hathor It takes a lot longer to put it on the computer though and I spend too much time on e-mails but I like to write to everyone who writes me!
21:35:50 mnhottya You're great about answering emails, thanks for that! I try to work while the kids are asleep, but I'm having a hard time with the other concept about allowing them to entertain themselves enough.
21:36:05 mnhottya I guess cuz they are so attached, they don't *want* to entertain themselves.
21:36:08 mnhottya KWIM?
21:36:26 hathor Jean Liedloff is so cool. She talks alot about how kids should see their parents work. That turning around a focusing on the kids doing their things isn't what they really want. Theey're looking for leadership and when you focus too directly on them it's like turning a mirror on them . It's confusing to them
21:37:24 mnhottya OK, thanks for the perspective!
21:37:29 hathor There's something to be said for helping them get started in something and then steppping away. But you have to keep your expectations down to their age limitations
21:38:21 hathor I was in grad school when Izzy was 2 and I would work for an hour in the morning , during her nap and that was it. But when I had the chance I was ready to go no distractions!
21:38:53 Amoreena got booted and now i'm back, i just love technology
21:38:56 hathor Next question?
21:38:58 angelfunk hey hathor!  i am the proud mama of a six month old named ian, he is EBF.  my question concerns breastfeeding advocacy and support.  What is the best way to a) make sure pregnant women get the *correct* information about breastfeeding before giving birth
21:39:05 angelfunk nak
21:39:06 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  Dayna, jadebabylon, jmlatham, Myztri, mamaofthree
21:39:29 hathor Well, for one breastfeeding in public is a good start.
21:39:41 angelfunk and b)how to support women that have their babies and are having a hard time breastfeeding and are on the fence about continuing
21:39:48 Spookygirl *applause*
21:39:52 angelfunk yes, i need to work on that
21:39:58 angelfunk i am a sprayer
21:40:09 angelfunk :)
21:40:11 hathor And modeling good behavior...whenever you can because the youngsters are watching...
21:40:38 angelfunk do you have any favorite literature?
21:40:41 angelfunk books, etc?
21:40:47 hathor They just HAVE to go to a lll meeting.
21:40:50 angelfunk concerning breastfeeding that is
21:40:55 angelfunk right
21:41:18 hathor And you could give them Dr. Sears' book (rip out the pages on bottlefeeding hee hee)
21:41:23 angelfunk i have not been to my local lll meeting but will definitely make it to the next one
21:41:26 angelfunk the baby book?
21:41:33 angelfunk dr. sears' baby book?
21:41:48 angelfunk i love it and have started giving it to all new mamas
21:41:56 angelfunk that i need to buy a gift for
21:41:58 hathor baby b ook. yep. And totally the continuum concept...
21:42:06 angelfunk i just read it!
21:42:11 angelfunk i really enjoyed it
21:42:14 angelfunk as well as your book
21:42:17 angelfunk i just got it last week
21:42:40 angelfunk it is so hard to communicate to a first time pregnant woman
21:42:46 angelfunk the joys of breastfeeding
21:42:54 hathor The continuum concept needs to be accidentally left at varoius public locations with notes attached saying enjoy!
21:42:56 angelfunk knowing that all the growth your baby is experiencing
21:42:59 angelfunk is b/c of you
21:43:02 angelfunk yes!
21:43:10 angelfunk along with your comics
21:43:15 angelfunk and copies of hip mama and mothering
21:43:18 angelfunk for sure
21:43:33 angelfunk i draw so much inspiration from your work
21:43:45 angelfunk and really appreciate you and the life you have chosen
21:43:54 angelfunk it really *does* make a huge difference
21:44:00 hathor I wrote  a speech about parenting as performance art about how we have  to find ways to advertise-market how we parent to young people preferable before they become pregnant.
21:44:24 angelfunk that is a great way to look at it
21:44:32 angelfunk it is so important
21:44:41 angelfunk women do not see other women breastfeeding anymore!
21:44:47 hathor I like to think my comics can reach some open minded young people. they were a big hit in grad school with students. male and female
21:44:54 angelfunk i didn't until i was an adult
21:45:04 hathor New question?
21:45:07 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): angelfunk, Dayna, jadebabylon, jmlatham, Myztri, mamaofthree
21:45:08 angelfunk thank you!
21:45:10 Dayna Hi Heather! We are Radical Unschoolers. Would you say that is a good label" for your ow philosophy? It is so hard to connect with other Unschoolers? Do you have a good support network?"
21:45:19 Webmama_Tina www.bookcrossing.com  for continuum concept-leaving-in-public-places  :)
21:45:57 Sweet_Kat ?
21:45:58 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): Dayna, jadebabylon, jmlatham, Myztri, mamaofthree
21:46:59 hathor I think of my self as a radical unschooler, but I have a friend who is one also and she does unlimited tv and comp. and whatever. Our family doesn't watch muc h of the stuff. To me it's a way of letting the corp. in the home and I don't want them there. It's part of my radicalism
21:47:38 Dayna Do your girls want to watch TV, or do you talk to them about why you choose to limit it?
21:47:56 hathor But my friend thinks that makes me less radical. I think she's more mainsteam cause her kid wears barbie everything go figure!
21:49:31 hathor They watch movies that they rent from netflix but that's about it...but my kids are free to be and do and learn and create or just hang I think we're pretty unschooly
21:49:57 Dayna You have a very nice family.
21:50:01 Dayna You are really lucky!
21:50:08 hathor We don't do any lessons (except for once or twice, but my 8yo about had a fit so we stoped that quickly!)
21:50:21 Amoreena ?
21:50:46 Dayna Thank you for all you do. You make me feel not so alone in my choices!
21:51:01 hathor thanks! next question
21:51:04 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): Dayna, jadebabylon, jmlatham, Myztri, mamaofthree,  Sweet_Kat,  Amoreena,
21:51:10 Webmama_Tina 10min left in the chat  :(
21:51:29 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): jadebabylon, jmlatham, Myztri, mamaofthree,  Sweet_Kat,  Amoreena
21:51:32 MOD_Angie At this time, the queue is full. Questions already in line will be asked, but we cannot take anymore today. Sorry for the inconvenience.
21:51:39 jadebabylon Have you ever considerd anthropology as a course of study?:)
21:51:47 hathor jadebabylon?
21:51:50 jadebabylon yes :)
21:52:00 hathor totally!
21:52:14 jadebabylon incidentally, what did you study in grad school?
21:52:15 hathor Have you read millenium?
21:52:22 jadebabylon no...who is it by?
21:52:26 dfresco I missed so much of the chat. I just finally got my DS to sleep. Is there a transcript of this chat anywhere?
21:52:37 Webmama_Tina dfresco there will be
21:52:59 hathor I was in the art school as a painter, but then I created Hathor and became a performace artist and then a cartoonist
21:53:04 dfresco :D
21:53:19 jadebabylon And we all thank you for those choices :)
21:53:49 hathor If you had asked me 8 years ago if I would be a cartoonist I would have said no way
21:54:18 hathor but in 8th grade I was voted girlmost likely to work for mad magazine!
21:54:25 hathor new question?
21:54:28 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): jmlatham, Myztri, mamaofthree,  Sweet_Kat,  Amoreena
21:54:29 jmlatham Hello Hathor!  I have a question about VBACs.  I had a myomectomy in 2001 and then gave birth to my first child in 2004.  I would like to have another child, but I want to do it naturally.
21:54:46 jadebabylon I can  relate...I used to want to be a paleontologist b/c I listened to my son's dino tape one too many times, LOL
21:54:54 jmlatham what is your opinion?
21:54:57 hathor Well, you'l have to stay at home!
21:55:23 jmlatham Was that an answer for me?
21:55:52 hathor to have the vbac I mean, get a good midwife or uc baby! You can do it! read some birth stories!
21:56:24 jmlatham I have but they don't discuss if you have fibroids
21:56:46 jmlatham they speak to the person that just had a c-section previously
21:57:29 hathor One of the things I've realized is that women have birthed through a million different scenarios, you just have to find the right people. ttry the birthlove website. They'll have the answer
21:57:44 jmlatham I had two miscarriages because of the fibroids and that's why I choose the myomectomy.  They told me because of the incision they made, I would always have to have a c-section.
21:57:49 Webmama_Tina 3min left...heather are you able to finish the people in the queue or do you need to leave right at the hour?
21:58:01 Webmama_Tina its entirely up to you :)
21:58:18 hathor I can stay longer
21:58:24 Webmama_Tina ok :)
21:58:34 jmlatham is that website www.birthlove.com
21:59:27 hathor yes, that's it
21:59:45 jmlatham The more info I read the more I get confused
21:59:49 hathor and good luck to you I hope you have a good, fulfilling birth
21:59:57 jmlatham Thank you.
22:00:14 Myztri Tracy from Texas- Great to talk to you again.  I am currently nursing my 8 month old son-second to breastfeed- and last time around, everyone was generally supportive until i quit at 16 months.this time around, however i am already getting comments and...
22:00:25 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): Myztri, mamaofthree, Sweet_Kat, Amoreena
22:00:31 Myztri suggestions to wean.  i think the difference is the size of the boys
22:00:47 hathor It is really confusing out there...my mantra is There are six billion people on this planet. Surviving a lot more than this.... whenever things look hopeless
22:00:49 Myztri Anthony has down synrome and was only 13 pbs at a year, and chandler is 24 lbs at 8 months
22:01:16 Myztri all mama milk i might add.... any words of wisdom?
22:02:07 hathor Well, life is short to have to spend with a lot of stupid people you know?
22:02:42 Myztri this is true, but due to a hurricane, i am forced to live with the one who makes allt he comments... it is frustrating to deal with that
22:03:08 hathor 8 months is barely out of the womb and how do those people think that baby got so all fire  big and delicious? breastmilk!
22:03:28 hathor Oh, man!
22:03:32 Myztri exactly!
22:03:52 hathor can you leave around a copy of my book then you might look sane in comparison?!
22:03:56 Myztri i plan on going 2+ with this one.  surely they should save their comments for after 18 months
22:04:04 Myztri LOL.. i will try that!
22:04:06 thebabysbum :nahnah: on them, Mystri
22:05:01 hathor Tell him you've always wanted to get a full-page spread in National Geographic...
22:05:18 hathor another question?
22:05:22 mamaofthree It's Heather in Tucson... I wanna say I LOVE YOU! I am inspired by your comic everyday. So Thank you. I am not even sure I have a question. lol Ok I have a question... how do your kids feel about your life style? Is your lifestyle like the comic?
22:05:22 Myztri thanks!
22:05:27 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):    mamaofthree, Sweet_Kat, Amoreena
22:06:16 hathor Our lifestyle is very much like the comic although I have never fully disrobed in public (except befre kids when I was drunk)
22:06:20 mamaofthree Has this already been asked? I was late coming on, slow computer.
22:06:41 hathor I have never gone to the bathroom in the bk lounge either
22:07:12 hathor Here's a secret how you can tell if the comics are real or not...
22:07:55 mamaofthree haha! I have found myself becoming more out there" with my bfing. At one time in my life I hid in the bathroom, now I could careless. I love that!"
22:08:05 hathor If you go awwww! I'm going to do that! I probably did it too. if you go wow! she's got balls! Hathor did that all on her own.
22:08:18 hathor That part is wishful thinking! lol
22:08:38 Myztri LOL
22:08:54 jadebabylon LOL
22:09:02 thebabysbum lol
22:09:18 Webmama_Tina 2 more questions....
22:09:21 mamaofthree I have a couple of your prints. I love the one of the homeschooling log. I want to thank you for the book list on your site. I read dumbing us down and totally changed the way I homeschool.
22:09:22 Sweet_Kat Katherine from Canada - My dd is only three, but we are considering home/un-schooling.  Both of my in-laws are teachers in the public system and are against our decision.  The lack of socialization" is their argument.  Any truth to that? Any advice?"
22:09:36 hathor My kids are very supportive of the comic and my work and it works very well with unschooling and I'm just really grateful to love to do something and have people who love to read it
22:09:39 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): jSweet_Kat, Amoreena
22:09:40 Mama_Faery lol
22:09:54 Mama_Faery oops, came in late, sorry! lol
22:10:16 Sweet_Kat Didja get my question above?
22:10:29 hathor I live in Los Angeles where we have too much socialization, clubs, park days, classes and stuff to do.
22:11:17 rachelalle hi is this chat still active?
22:11:41 hathor I think that 20 years ago a child might have been able to get more info from school but now with the internet and such worldly mamas kids at home can have more better information and sources and through the movement more friends!
22:11:53 Webmama_Tina http://www.homeeducator.com/FamilyTimes/articles/10-1article1.htm
22:12:01 Sweet_Kat Any advice with dealing with in-laws"?"
22:12:18 Webmama_Tina that article is titled no thankyou, we don't believe in socialization" lol!"
22:12:30 hathor I started a homeschool show and tell club. the kids gather and dress in costumes and share stuff they made. YOu can be the change you want to see in the world.
22:12:43 Sweet_Kat Thanks so much!!!!!
22:13:41 hathor Mine hav ebeen so supportive because I'm so earnest. I try to tell them that it's not because I hate the schools but because I don't want to miss a minute of my kids. Because I love them and want to make the world  better for them
22:13:42 Webmama_Tina here's some articles for you on homeschooling...several specifically on socialization...give you some ammunition sweet kat
22:13:43 Webmama_Tina http://fresnofamily.com/homeschool/hslinks.htm
22:13:58 Sweet_Kat Thank you!  That's great.
22:14:08 hathor I think grandparents would like to see more of the kids too so they can understad the sentiment
22:14:15 jadebabylon Sorry to interject, but I almost peed my pants reading that article just now, coz I laughed so hard!  :)
22:14:22 Webmama_Tina lol
22:14:29 Webmama_Tina pretty good, eh? LOL
22:14:33 thebabysbum tina, can you post the link to the article again?
22:14:34 hathor the mothering mag article on homeschool myths is good too.
22:14:53 hathor another question so I can go read the article? lol
22:14:59 Sweet_Kat I've read it, it was helpful.  Thank you.
22:14:59 Webmama_Tina k
22:15:14 Webmama_Tina http://www.homeeducator.com/FamilyTimes/articles/10-1article1.htm
22:15:41 Webmama_Tina last question i think?
22:15:42 hathor Anyone?
22:15:48 Amoreena hi! apparently i need to read your book, as it will probably answer my question, since the homeschooling log was mentioned above. i haven't seen that...yet. my question is: how do you keep track of what you guys do for the powers that be? i'm a hser too.
22:16:38 hathor In california you just have to register as a private school and then there is no regulations at all. We're pretty lucky that way. But
22:16:52 Amoreena i filed my r4.
22:17:03 Amoreena i'm in california btw.
22:17:11 Amoreena (we almost met in fullerton)
22:17:19 hathor testing isn't something to get toooooo scared about (easy for me to say) because kids in public school don't ace tests.
22:17:42 hathor Hi! We should meet!
22:17:50 Amoreena i suspect we will :)
22:17:54 cheantelle ?
22:18:21 Webmama_Tina that was our last question, sorry...time's up
22:18:28 hathor My book is about the Birth of Hathor, how I came up with the idea and started the project...new books are coming soon. Collect them all! hee hee
22:18:30 Webmama_Tina thank you SOOOOOOO much hathor!!!
22:18:36 Mama_Faery Oh, thank you so much! This was great!
22:18:38 Amoreena i'm not at all worried about testing. what i wonder about is how to translate Life into something on paper.
22:18:40 Webmama_Tina how about giving us your link?
22:18:45 MOD_Angie *applause*
22:18:46 thebabysbum Thanks, Hathor!  We love you around here!
22:18:47 senseimama thanks!
22:18:48 Myztri THANK YOU!
22:18:49 Webmama_Tina and email if you want people to email you questions?
22:18:50 Mama_Faery *applause*
22:18:51 hathor Thanks Tina, can we do it again sometime?
22:18:58 Webmama_Tina yes absolutely!
22:19:01 Mama_Faery Yay!
22:19:02 Webmama_Tina we'll set it up!
22:19:10 Mama_Faery Peace, everymama...I gotta go check on the bebe
22:19:15 jadebabylon We love you in our house too...I was Hathor for Halloween :)
22:19:25 Jenivere *applause*
22:19:28 Myztri ohh you should market hathor costumes! lol
22:19:29 Webmama_Tina mine's awake and fussing so i gotta jam...but don't forget to come by for the hoopla!
22:19:30 hathor Hey everybody save your questions for the next one!
22:19:30 Mama_Faery :D  :heart:
22:19:30 thebabysbum night all... baby is awake AGAIN.
22:19:32 thebabysbum off to bed
22:19:33 Webmama_Tina starting this friday
22:19:39 Webmama_Tina get on the egroup so that you can find out about it....
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22:19:50 thebabysbum *applause*
22:19:51 hathor I was my alter ego too- a scary witch!
22:19:51 Webmama_Tina gonna be FUN
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22:20:11 mamaofthree thank you Hathor. Good night.
22:20:21 Jenivere Thank you very much
22:20:21 Webmama_Tina coinciding with live chat..
22:20:27 Webmama_Tina y'all were great!
22:20:29 hathor Nighty-night.
22:20:32 Myztri night!

 

 

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