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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Hathor the Cowgoddess --Hathor lives in the middle of urban sprawl with her dearest super-husband and three wee and wise kids. She has had an unassisted birth in the middle of her 700 square foot apartment, she breastfeeds on demand and in public, she shares sleep, maintains constant contact and unschools. Not only does she do all of this, she does it with grand style and verve. With extravagant and outrageous behavior. And with her trusty sidekick baby in a sling.

Hathor is the completely true product of the imagination of Heather Cushman-Dowdee, an outraged (because she might look distracted but she is paying attention! ) mama who has done almost all of the above (that part is autobiography)... except for the part that she totally makes up (those parts are wishful thinking). The raucous exploits of Hathor and her family are produced in comic form on the web and printed in many, many zines and magazines and books, too.

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1/3/07

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21:05:33 Webmama_Tina ok so today we are so happy, as always, to have our resident cow goddess....
21:05:34 HATHOR amyirony your question?
21:05:36 Webmama_Tina everyone give a moo!
21:05:39 Webmama_Tina *cow*
21:05:40 amyirony Thanks.  I have 2 questions (if that's ok).
21:05:49 amyirony *cow*
21:05:50 Webmama_Tina and amy can start us off!
21:06:19 Webmama_Tina go for it amy
21:06:34 amyirony I just found out I'm pg w #2 (!).  I want to do a homebirth (dd was born in a birthcenter).  We live in a 650 sf apt -- any tips for birthing in such a small place?  Oh, and it's a 5th fl walkup (NYC)
21:06:37 He-mom This is my first cyberchat, ever.... Talk amongst yourselves... I'll watch and learn from the masters.
21:06:57 HATHOR Aaaah, and when will you be giving birth?
21:07:09 Webmama_Tina okey dokey he-mom :)
21:07:12 amyirony End of August (if all goes well)
21:07:15 HATHOR  With me it was the dead of summer with no air conditioning
21:07:24 Webmama_Tina i'll be posting the welcome announcement periodically, don't mind me.... :) 
21:07:25 HATHOR and I closed all the windows!
21:07:28 mommyto5 Thanks! Your right. LOL
21:07:53 Webmama_Tina right now we have hathor and amyirony up to bat....if anyone else has a question for hathor, please post a single question mark and i will let you know when its your turn :)
21:07:54 HATHOR One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a veil that 
21:08:00 Webmama_Tina that way we can keep things from getting too confusing :)
21:08:07 HATHOR protects you from your neighbors
21:08:18 HATHOR I consider myself to be pretty loud 
21:08:30 HATHOR but no one heard me or said anything about it
21:08:31 amyirony lol, I was pretty loud w dd, fer sure
21:08:52 HATHOR we didn't tell anyone we were planning it so they weren't really listening
21:08:58 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single \?\" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. "
21:09:26 HATHOR and my other two kids didn't even wake up tho I could hit them with a shoe from where I was birthing
21:09:39 HATHOR I never would of course hit them with a shoe.
21:09:41 HATHOR hee hee
21:09:56 mommyto5 ?
21:09:57 HATHOR YOu're gonna do great!
21:10:01 amyirony Yeah, I'm a little worried about dd.  she will be almost 3, and we don't have family close by.  Not sure if she'll be old enough to be ok with it.
21:10:04 HATHOR do you have another question?
21:10:10 amyirony Oh, yes thanks
21:10:30 amyirony I still nurse dd (2.3) everywhere, including subway trains at rush hour
21:10:35 HATHOR I hear from lots of people that their kids sleep right through
21:10:43 Webmama_Tina current chatter: amyirony .....upcoming chatters: mommyto5 
21:10:46 HATHOR good for you!
21:11:03 amyirony But in spite of my belief that people need to SEE nursing to get used to it, I can't help but feel a little embarrassed
21:11:20 amyirony (which is so unlike me, I'm usually an exhibitionist).  Any tips for getting over myself?
21:11:29 HATHOR it can feel embarassing can't it, sometimes? 
21:11:39 amyirony yes, I hang my head to avoid eye contact
21:11:43 amyirony I hate that feeling.
21:11:53 HATHOR You know some places/ public spaces just have a 
21:12:12 HATHOR ominous and embarassing feel to them
21:12:31 HATHOR we all feel like that sometime and there's no problem with that
21:12:42 Webmama_Tina yeah i feel that way too
21:12:43 amyirony I've had some people who were friendly and chatty to dd, until they saw her nurse.  Then they give her the cold shoulder
21:12:52 HATHOR just try to make yourself feel comfortable so that you can hold your head up and feel confident
21:12:53 Webmama_Tina mine is cuz i don't want any sort of confrontation 
21:13:05 amyirony And I feel like I'm doing wrong by her when that happens.
21:13:24 HATHOR if that means that you cover a bit more than you would like its okay as long as you are feeling in control
21:13:50 HATHOR and perhaps you could make sure you have some breastfeeding advocacy bags with you or something
21:13:53 amyirony Thanks.  I try.  I always think of your cartoon where the baby pulls off to show off the nipple and I laugh!
21:13:58 Webmama_Tina yeah \act as if\" you feel confident and that really helps me :)"
21:14:25 HATHOR Its all in the 'ACT ' somedays, isn't it? ;) 
21:14:43 Webmama_Tina yup...that little quote really helps me when i want to feel something i'm not
21:14:46 HATHOR mamato5 ?
21:14:49 Webmama_Tina act as if, and eventually you will :)
21:14:54 Webmama_Tina yup go for it mamato5
21:14:57 mommyto5 Your last few comics have really hit home for me. I have been feeling like that for sometime, that we care more for things than each other. That children are an afterthought and that STUFF is most important
21:15:10 HATHOR Amen sister! 
21:15:12 He-mom ?
21:15:29 HATHOR And speaking of that, I wanted to say thank you for the wonder full stuff!
21:15:43 Webmama_Tina current chatter: mommyto5 ....upcoming chatters: He-mom 
21:15:52 mommyto5 Your so very welcome!
21:16:01 HATHOR I don't think I mentioned to you(i spaced it today when we were talking on-line) that the books you sent for xmas totally rocked!
21:16:24 HATHOR That book small houses is sooooooooooooooooo great, I wish I had written it!
21:16:51 HATHOR And Gwynnie LOVED jamberry big (we have the bored book) it totally cracked her up
21:16:59 mommyto5 We are also planning a UC. I finally got up the guts to let the midwife go and just take back my power. How did you help your dh get comfy in the whole idea? I love the book too!
21:17:22 HATHOR Well, my dh got comfy with the idea the day AFTER the birth.
21:17:39 mommyto5 LOL! That is good to know! :)
21:17:41 HATHOR Then he was talking on the phone giving the play by play like he thought of the whole thing
21:17:51 HATHOR god love him :wub: 
21:18:24 HATHOR I bought him the book Emergency childbirth by Gregory White? I think
21:18:40 mommyto5 I thought the book Spiritual Midwifery would be good, but as I skimmed thru it... AGH! A bit clinical. LOL
21:18:48 HATHOR Its like a how-to manual for birth and is pretty comforting
21:19:11 HATHOR it says that any 8 year old can assist a birthing mother, that helped a LOT 
21:19:18 HATHOR though it is pretty clinical.
21:19:33 mommyto5 Thanks! My son will be so into that! haha
21:20:09 HATHOR I've heard some mothers assure their dh that they will be willing to transfer when they *know* that they need to
21:20:34 HATHOR and assure them that women are made to *know* but you have a few births under your belt
21:20:50 HATHOR so I'm sure you are pretty tried and tested*) 
21:20:57 HATHOR hee hee
21:21:01 mommyto5 LOL
21:21:29 HATHOR he-mom?
21:21:32 He-mom This is a question directed to Heather the artist... Are you familiar with [i]Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain[/i] and if so, do you think it would be helpful for a young artist (my 9yo dd)?
21:21:45 HATHOR Absolutely!
21:21:55 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single \?\" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. "
21:22:13 HATHOR That's one of the books I used when I was teaching drawing...
21:22:47 HATHOR With drawing its all about the easel and setting up so that you can see the 
21:23:07 HATHOR see what you're drawing AND your
21:23:16 HATHOR paper without really moving your head.
21:23:41 He-mom What kinds of things have you done with your kids to help them think like an artist... without getting schoolish on them iykwim?
21:23:42 HATHOR I'd love to teach drawing again...
21:24:18 HATHOR Just giving them free reign with art supplies really.
21:24:51 HATHOR and letting them explore, and also letting them watch you be creative
21:25:45 HATHOR I think if you find something to work on (besides the computer, I find if I'm working on the box the kids are at loose ends or off somewhere else) but if I'm working on a comic at the table
21:25:59 HATHOR they sit down and get out paper and start doing it too
21:26:52 HATHOR That's the way I'm starting to think of everything I want to \expose\" the kids too, that I should just drop the pretense and teach myself :D "
21:27:02 HATHOR whatcha think?
21:27:25 He-mom Yeah, this is one of those uncharted territories for me... not knowing how much I need to actively participate or just let nature take its course.
21:27:27 Webmama_Tina good idea!
21:27:30 nurturenature The former art teacher in me has to say \don't be afraid to let them make a mess\" since the best stuff comes from those free moments."
21:27:31 HATHOR Hey, ya'll we need some question marks!