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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Hathor the Cowgoddess --Hathor lives in the middle of urban sprawl with her dearest super-husband and three wee and wise kids. She has had an unassisted birth in the middle of her 700 square foot apartment, she breastfeeds on demand and in public, she shares sleep, maintains constant contact and unschools. Not only does she do all of this, she does it with grand style and verve. With extravagant and outrageous behavior. And with her trusty sidekick baby in a sling.

Hathor is the completely true product of the imagination of Heather Cushman-Dowdee, an outraged (because she might look distracted but she is paying attention! ) mama who has done almost all of the above (that part is autobiography)... except for the part that she totally makes up (those parts are wishful thinking). The raucous exploits of Hathor and her family are produced in comic form on the web and printed in many, many zines and magazines and books, too.

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4/4/07

16 mothers in attendance!

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21:01:26 AutumnMama Good evening :) Nice little cozy group we have here. 
21:01:40 Webmama_Tina i just got done working on the yard
21:01:48 hathor Yes, we can chat and chat if only 4 of us are here
21:01:48 Webmama_Tina i'm all weedy and sweaty, bleh
21:01:53 Webmama_Tina yup
21:02:08 hathor we did some gardening today too, it was pots though
21:02:08 Webmama_Tina yeah i guess we don't need the official line up of questions with just 4, lol
21:02:21 AutumnMama :D Nope
21:02:25 Webmama_Tina lemme announce to the IM group and to the other rooms...y'all chat at will
21:02:26 Webmama_Tina :)
21:02:40 hathor maybe some slacker mamas will show up in a bit lol 
21:02:48 AutumnMama Looks like Mina's having a hard time staying connected
21:03:04 AutumnMama Yes, I would think so...I'm usually one of them lol
21:04:28 hathor my nine year old just made me pizza (frozen) so that we can feed the family while I'm chatting...
21:04:42 AutumnMama Aw, how sweet :)
21:05:06 hathor yeah, I think 9 is one of my favorite ages after the breastfeeding ones...
21:05:19 Webmama_Tina awww
21:05:31 mom2radata good evening
21:05:33 AutumnMama Fun, my oldest is 5...it will be neat to experience the different ages
21:05:46 Webmama_Tina i'm looking forward to getting past the toddler years with my little one...he's driving me NUTS! but watch, as soon as he's older i'll miss it...isn't that always the case?
21:05:49 mom2radata you want to borrow my 14 year old 
21:05:58 hathor as far as I can tell they keep getting better and better, it makes me want more kids...
21:05:58 mom2radata just so you get the feel for it
21:06:07 AutumnMama haha, if you'll take my 3 yo
21:06:25 AutumnMama aww
21:06:28 mom2radata I have a tyrant of a two year old
21:06:34 hathor ahhhhh, 14 that should be great! I really loathed my mama when I was 14! yippee!:shocked: 
21:06:46 mom2radata yeah that's about where we are
21:07:01 hathor ahh, I'm sorry to hear it...
21:07:06 Webmama_Tina lol mom2
21:07:07 kerlowyn i have one who is 14 too
21:07:15 AutumnMama man, so weird to think that we'll be there some day
21:07:17 mom2radata I mean it's not so bad because we do the whole consensual living thing
21:07:25 Webmama_Tina not looking forward to the teen years AT ALL, *sigh*
21:07:38 mom2radata but she rebels against that:shocked: 
21:07:42 Webmama_Tina i've heard some say its harder than the toddler years! if that's possible, bleh
21:07:58 kerlowyn my 14 yr old is totally goth, and I bleach his hair every 12 weeks
21:08:06 hathor I think the toddler years are wondrous! it's the age of 6 that baffles me..
21:08:06 mom2radata She has never forgiven me for having a baby in the bathtub when she was in sixth grade
21:08:14 mom2radata I love six
21:08:22 kerlowyn i told him some day when i'm old I remind him i was his personal hairdresser
21:08:34 hathor kerlowyn, how cool that you dye  his hair!
21:08:40 Webmama_Tina that's funny, i'm enjoying 6 with my daughter
21:08:41 mom2radata yeah you should get back compensation for that
21:08:42 Webmama_Tina lol
21:09:05 kerlowyn I told him I draw the line at home tatoos
21:09:07 kerlowyn LOL
21:09:16 AutumnMama lol
21:09:21 mom2radata yeah I don't like needles
21:09:30 AutumnMama Aw c'mon, don't be a party pooper ;)
21:09:35 hathor so does anyone have any questions for the moo goddess, or her creator? 
21:09:46 Webmama_Tina ah man, my toddler is nak'n and falling asleep...its TOO EARLY
21:09:51 Webmama_Tina gotta get up and do something with him...
21:09:54 Webmama_Tina its only 6pm!
21:10:00 AutumnMama :)
21:10:08 mom2radata mine fell asleep at about 5 p.m.
21:10:18 mom2radata we will be awake for many hours this evening
21:10:19 Webmama_Tina ok daddy put on the baby elephant walk on his computer
21:10:28 Webmama_Tina with visualizations...that worked
21:10:35 Webmama_Tina he's up! and dancing, LOL
21:10:48 mom2radata Hathor I have to tell you
21:10:52 AutumnMama Hm, I can't think of any questions off hand...I just love them!
21:10:54 hathor sure?
21:11:03 mom2radata I sent my mom a link to the you tube video on your site
21:11:05 Webmama_Tina hey hathor you gotta come to the unschooling chat on the first sunday of the month sometime...join me and dayna
21:11:13 hathor mom2radata yes?
21:11:19 mom2radata the one with the British lady and her girls
21:11:19 Webmama_Tina and sandra dodd is our mothering guest speaker the last week of this month
21:11:27 mom2radata I though Mom's brain would implode
21:11:30 Webmama_Tina i think this is unschooling month or something, LOL
21:11:37 hathor hee hee hooooooo!
21:11:42 mom2radata honestly you should have heard her it was priceless
21:11:44 AutumnMama lol
21:11:49 hathor exploding moms!
21:11:57 Webmama_Tina ok i don't remember the video so now i'm going to look
21:11:58 hathor tell me, what did she say?
21:12:10 Webmama_Tina where is it?
21:12:14 AutumnMama I finally got DH to put my sound card in so I watched it for the first time just a bit ago.
21:12:19 Webmama_Tina going to musings to see if its there
21:12:21 hathor the video is a docu about extended  breastfeeding...until 8
21:12:23 mom2radata honestly it got a little nasty because she told me that if I nursed that long she would have turned me in
21:12:30 AutumnMama :(
21:12:31 mom2radata so I said B isn't done yet mom
21:12:33 Webmama_Tina ah, found it
21:12:38 mom2radata and she screeched at me
21:12:47 mom2radata really it was the most unnatural sound I ever heard
21:13:03 mom2radata she's just blowing smoke,  she'd never actually do it  
21:13:04 hathor ah man, I'm so sorry about that, and its really sad that she didn't find anything to like in that video
21:13:33 hathor it seemed so sensible...but there are tons of nutjobs commenting on it...
21:13:35 mom2radata Mother weaned each of us the day we turned one
21:13:41 mom2radata I give her credit for that
21:13:54 mom2radata i mean that we all made it to one
21:13:56 hathor Now I want to know how can you breastfeed for a whole year,
21:14:06 hathor and then just callously wean?
21:14:20 mom2radata I can't even nightwean
21:14:23 AutumnMama I know! They're still such babies at that age
21:14:24 hathor It doesn't make sense to me, the pressure to conform must be terrific
21:14:25 mom2radata so I  have no idea
21:14:57 hathor are there any questions? you could throw out a question mark and I'll answer...
21:15:14 AutumnMama ...?
21:15:16 AutumnMama ;)
21:15:21 hathor AutumnMama ?
21:16:26 AutumnMama Ok, I was wondering what your inspiration/info for Unschooling came/comes from
21:16:38 AutumnMama (If that's not to OT)
21:16:52 hathor Not OT at all
21:17:17 hathor I knew I wanted to homeschool as soon as I heard of it at a LLL meeting
21:17:36 hathor and so I started reading and studying it and talking to dh about it
21:17:52 hathor and by the time it came time to do Kindergarten we were decided
21:18:11 hathor the unschooling part of it is just an extension of my personality
21:18:37 hathor I'm casual and a wee bit lazy so even if I wanted I couldn't arrange a curriculum
21:18:38 Webmama_Tina do we have enough people with questions now that we should queue up, do you think hathor?
21:18:49 Webmama_Tina sorry, i was watching that video, lol!
21:19:22 hathor and then I've raised my kids to be anti-authority so they wouldn't listen to me if I tried to force them to do it :D 
21:19:31 hathor Yes, lets start a queue
21:19:32 AutumnMama lol
21:20:12 Webmama_Tina ok here we goooo...
21:20:16 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm  ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single \?\" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. "
21:20:51 hathor My kids take some classes ocassionally, and we do things that are schoolish, and my kids have owned workbooks at one time or another, we do what we want when we want...
21:21:52 hathor but whenever I fall into the trap of being a 'teacher' they rebel. Its how they keep me real.
21:21:55 Webmama_Tina that's what i love about homeschooling...you can do it however you like!
21:22:19 Webmama_Tina ok mamas, just post a single question mark if you have a question/comment for hathor :)
21:22:25 hathor absolutely, in the beginning its easy to think that you need to choose how to do it,
21:22:37 Webmama_Tina i think i'm finally realizing that, lol
21:22:40 hathor are you an unschooler, a homeschooler
21:22:53 Webmama_Tina i've been really into reading alllll about all the different educational philosophies lately
21:23:23 Webmama_Tina really fascinated with pretty much all
21:23:49 AutumnMama me?
21:23:52 hathor its confusing, like when you start solids, you're terrified that you've started weaning and you don't realize that you can feed too much one day and have all breastmilk the other and your kid is eating and breastfeeding and you're still a breastfeeding mom
21:24:49 mom2radata ?
21:25:07 hathor homeschooling is like that, I tried to teach my daughter to read once and made her read for a few days and she totally rebelled and now she taught her self to read, I try not to beat myself up for backsliding
21:25:09 Webmama_Tina ok mom2, go for it :)
21:25:20 hathor I'm just doing the best Ican ya know?
21:25:25 Webmama_Tina yup
21:25:26 hathor mom2radata ?
21:25:42 mom2radata So I actually just started officially homeschooling
21:25:43 Webmama_Tina i'm still feling like i should be DOING something with her...not sure what yet....
21:25:58 hathor congratulations!
21:26:05 mom2radata my son is kindergarten age this year and I am having a hard time with the labels
21:26:15 mom2radata I mean I don't know what to say when people ask me
21:26:32 mom2radata I think I unschool because we don't force things yadda, yadda, yadda
21:26:51 mom2radata but we do Waldorf stuff too like lesson books and stuff if he feels like it and 
21:27:02 mom2radata we put what he wants to do in it 
21:27:21 mom2radata but I do try to at least read him some stories every day and play games
21:27:31 mom2radata so what does that make me
21:27:33 hathor I think Its so much better to just tell everyone you don't know very well that you homeschool
21:27:47 mom2radata I never know to say to people
21:27:50 mom2radata why is that
21:27:58 hathor in the big picture most people can barely get their head around homeschooling much less unschooling
21:28:30 hathor I use the term unschooling with others within the community to show that this is how we do it
21:28:54 hathor and when I use unschooling around the world at large and they ask what it is,
21:29:22 mom2radata it freaks some people out
21:29:28 hathor I usually answer that it's not going to school or doing school like lessons. And try to leave it at that
21:29:39 mom2radata that makes sense
21:30:41 hathor are there anymore questions? I can sound like a wuss answering?
21:30:48 hathor I can't believe I just told you
21:31:06 hathor to soften your answer to not make people uncomfortablle
21:31:09 mom2radata LOL
21:31:16 hathor oh yeah, that was heather not hathor!
21:31:29 Webmama_Tina lol, well sometimes its just best to not go there with people that you don't have any idea which direction they will go
21:31:38 hathor hee hee hoooooo I forget sometimes*) 
21:31:40 mom2radata sometimes you just have too  the aforementioned mother has enough to deal with imagining her eight year old grandson nursing
21:32:00 Webmama_Tina strangers on the street, i certainly am not interested in explaining myself too
21:32:18 hathor My mother has watched me unschool for 10 years now and still thinks I do lessons. 
21:32:25 Webmama_Tina i have to say that i'm really amazed though that so far we've not had one single negative comment from strangers on the street when they hear that we are homescooling...bizarre!
21:32:28 mom2radata yeah I hang out with mostly homeschoolers
21:32:35 mom2radata the question comes up a lot
21:32:51 hathor they don't want to hear it, and they selectively listen.so its easier to answer with something that will 
21:32:57 hathor keep them from screeching!
21:33:20 mom2radata yeah either that or I will have to buy ear plugs
21:33:23 Webmama_Tina i've even had little old ladies say that they think its cool! and one older woman, about my mom's age, said she homeschooled her kids! how cool is that?
21:33:29 mom2radata that is cool
21:33:33 hathor very cool
21:33:40 hathor are there any more questions?
21:34:01 Webmama_Tina woops, yes, questions, mamas...where are your questions? just post a question mark whenever you want to get a chance to ask! :)
21:34:11 Webmama_Tina we're pretty casual here with hathor :)
21:34:15 hathor it can be about breastfeeding
21:34:26 Webmama_Tina but do lets get more questions!
21:34:32 hathor i sort of like to talk about breastfeeding if you hadn't noticed 
21:34:36 Webmama_Tina ok that didn't sound like proper english, LOL
21:34:37 AutumnMama lol
21:34:38 hathor hee hee hooo
21:34:47 AutumnMama ?
21:34:48 hathor or homebirth
21:34:53 hathor AutumnMama ?
21:34:55 Webmama_Tina hathor, how about you come up here for our babyfest this year?
21:34:58 Webmama_Tina 22-Apr
21:35:02 Webmama_Tina fresno
21:35:03 Webmama_Tina :)
21:35:12 Webmama_Tina go for it autumn
21:35:25 AutumnMama Just wondering if you had dealt with thrush before...not really a lactivism issue, but :)
21:35:48 amyirony ?
21:35:58 hathor Oh yeah, I've had thrush, I've had exzema on my nipples 
21:36:05 hathor almost the whole time with my first
21:36:12 AutumnMama ouch!
21:36:13 hathor bleeding and cracked a LOT!
21:36:40 hathor yeah, it sucked, but still I remain one of the biggest believers how's that for wacky?
21:36:56 AutumnMama What ended up working for the thrush, do you remember? (we're dealing with it in case you couldn't tell ;))
21:37:28 1drflmthr ?
21:37:29 Webmama_Tina current chatter: AutumnMama ...upcoming chatters: amyirony 
21:37:37 hathor well, I tried just about everything but eating a LOt of yogurt helped me a lot
21:37:43 Webmama_Tina current chatter: AutumnMama ...upcoming chatters: amyirony, 1drflmthr 
21:38:02 AutumnMama ah, can't do dairy :( but probiotics, gotcha
21:38:15 hathor what happened though with me is that it became chronic so it was hard to see where the thrush ended'
21:38:21 hathor and the exzema began
21:38:39 hathor I tried gentian, I tried putting the yogurt ON my nipples
21:39:02 hathor I never had problems with the other two wanna know why?
21:39:09 AutumnMama yes please!
21:39:20 hathor It was my positioning!
21:39:53 AutumnMama Wow, that's interesting
21:40:03 hathor when I would side lie I would have my arm above the head instead of under. the whole time with my first and then with
21:40:32 hathor my second I decided to follow my midwifes advice and I never got the itchy cracked nipples again!
21:41:08 hathor I am allergic to peanuts and my nipple itch terribly if my kids eat them and then nurse
21:41:33 hathor but once I was coming down with thrush with my second and the itchy reaction fixed the thrush
21:41:37 hathor no kidding.
21:42:06 hathor amyirony?
21:42:07 AutumnMama how funny
21:42:10 amyirony Any tips for dealing w a nipple twiddler?  I've never much liked having my nipples touched, and my 2.5 twirls, twiddles, pulls, and teases til I wanna SCREAM.  She just about loses her mind if I ask her not to or try to stop her.
21:42:26 amyirony It's the only time I find myself thinking \I want my breasts back\""
21:42:46 Webmama_Tina current chatter: amyirony ...upcoming chatters:  1drflmthr 
21:42:59 hathor aaahhhh, yes, the screaming nipple twiddle! I'm super sensitive to it and personally I have to push their hand away. 
21:43:07 Webmama_Tina me too
21:43:12 Webmama_Tina i can't take it
21:43:25 amyirony I do that, and then she takes my hand and tries to put it in a vise grip between her legs!
21:43:34 Webmama_Tina LOL! a strong willed one!
21:43:35 hathor I read an article about how important it is for them and I tried to let them do it for a couple of days and thought I was going to crawl out of my skin
21:43:43 hathor do you have hair to twirl?
21:43:58 hathor  Or a pendant necklace is a good idea...
21:44:01 Webmama_Tina yeah i read somewhere to put it elsewhere...one mom i know said to put it in their own belly button
21:44:25 amyirony sometimes she'll take the belly button, but she's not big on the hair
21:44:25 Webmama_Tina dunno that would work for all kids, but it was an interesting idea, teaching them to twiddle their own belly button, LOL!
21:44:35 hathor I met a mom who let her daughter play with her chin waddle 
21:44:40 Webmama_Tina ROFL
21:44:41 amyirony lol
21:44:54 hathor she was still twiddling the waddle when she was 11!
21:44:55 Webmama_Tina my oldest used to play with the folds of my elbow
21:45:01 AutumnMama my DS still plays with his belly button to fall asleep (he's 3)
21:45:12 Webmama_Tina and my knuckles skin folds too
21:45:24 amyirony Oh, I meant she plays with MY bellybutton -- which is still far preferable to my nipples
21:45:36 Webmama_Tina never bothered me til i was pg then it made me want to just commit myself and i haven't liked it since, LOL
21:45:48 hathor its hard to get them to twiddle something else, but I found it to be really distracting
21:45:54 hathor it was worth it 
21:46:04 AutumnMama yeah, my DS started with mine but I had to stop when I was getting scabs :( ouch!
21:46:10 Webmama_Tina yikes
21:46:17 amyirony I broke her of the habit for a while, but then her night-nursing picked up, and of course I don't notice it all the time when I'm asleep
21:46:31 mom2radata I have a very convenient mole under my breasts,  a doc once offered to remove it and I said \no way!!\""
21:46:32 amyirony and now we're back to square one
21:46:39 hathor hee hee.
21:46:45 Webmama_Tina what causes the twiddling need anyway? do you know hathor? i'm intrigued
21:47:14 hathor the article I read said that babies use it to get more milk, so you should let them
21:47:32 amyirony huh, that's funny, cuz she never really did it til she was over 1 yo!
21:47:37 Webmama_Tina ah well, t'aint happenin here, LOL
21:47:39 hathor but I found myself not relaxing at all so it seemed counterintuitive
21:47:41 Webmama_Tina i'd go insane, LOL
21:47:47 Webmama_Tina anyway mine doesn't nurse on both sides
21:48:04 hathor I think it might be more like an exploration thing..
21:48:14 Webmama_Tina current chatter: amyirony ...upcoming chatters:  1drflmthr 
21:48:27 amyirony yeah, and she's definitely decided they are \hers\""
21:48:42 amyirony she's in for a rude awakening if we ever have #2!
21:48:51 hathor does 1drflmother have a question now?
21:48:56 1drflmthr  4.5 y/o not potty trained. Not sure how to address this. 
21:49:26 hathor amyirony, I joke with my daughter that this side is hers this side is mine she smiles at me as if she 
21:49:45 hathor thinks I'm quaint.
21:50:02 hathor hmmmmmm, not potty trained huh? boy or girl?
21:50:10 1drflmthr boy
21:50:18 amyirony lol!
21:50:32 amyirony (to hathor, that is, not you 1drflmthr!)
21:51:18 1drflmthr should I be worried?
21:51:28 hathor so I think my advice would be that it might not sound normal, but if your child is doing it its normal for them...you know?
21:51:54 hathor I trained my girls by letting them go naked 
21:52:08 1drflmthr I've been trying to trust the process
21:52:14 hathor and my friend trained her boy by letting him pee off the porch into the yard
21:52:32 hathor he thought it was really cool to watch it arc into the bushes!
21:52:40 1drflmthr It's a bit cold to do that here
21:52:44 Webmama_Tina hey whatever works
21:53:02 Webmama_Tina should be warming up soon, right? where do you live?
21:53:16 1drflmthr Yes, upstate NY
21:53:33 bwilde Don't use pull ups. My DS thought the spiderman ones were cool and WANTED to wear them. he train at 4 yrs, right after I put him back in diapers.
21:53:41 Webmama_Tina i always forget that other parts of the world are still cold now...i'm in central california...its already starting to feel like summer at times...
21:53:49 hathor once it warms up you could just naked him and let hime go about doing what he needs to do
21:54:05 1drflmthr The hard part is leaving him at a friend's houses
21:54:06 Webmama_Tina naked didn't work so well for my daughter...puddles everywhere
21:54:17 Webmama_Tina she even squatted and watched herself poop one time, LOL!
21:54:19 Webmama_Tina yay 
21:54:20 hathor I second the idea about the pull-ups
21:54:56 Webmama_Tina she just did it when she was ready, i just tried not to think too much about it and trust that it would happen when she was ready
21:55:03 hathor all I know is that a lot of the time you have to make the next step interesting too
21:55:05 Webmama_Tina 5 min left in the chat, by the way :)
21:55:29 hathor kids are naturally curios so if you could come up with a selling point for moving on that might work
21:55:44 Webmama_Tina does anyone else have any questions for hathor? want to make sure to get you in before time's up
21:56:06 hathor but also take deep breaths and know that this will pass and in his own good time he will be wearing big boy panties and attending harvard.
21:56:31 1drflmthr Thanks, Hathor
21:56:44 hathor no problem-o any more questions?
21:56:58 hathor the funny thing is that today I had 3 questions in my inbox
21:57:15 hathor I haven't been asked advice in a while and then 3 in one day!
21:57:22 1drflmthr p.s. we are loving the unschooling
21:57:52 hathor how did I introduce solids, how did I leave the baby in the bed and how do I get my work done
21:58:06 hathor so glad you're loving the unschoooling me too
21:58:17 amyirony how DO you get your work done?!!
21:58:26 Webmama_Tina that's funny cuz i get questions in my inbox quite frequently and i don't know why they are asking me! LOL
21:58:33 hathor I think the next comics will be about Hathor giving advice
21:58:36 AutumnMama yes, good question lol
21:59:00 hathor aaaahhh, see here in lalaland we have 4 extra hours in the day!
21:59:06 Webmama_Tina lol
21:59:09 amyirony love it
21:59:15 AutumnMama Ah ha, I KNEW it!
21:59:17 hathor and the streets are paved in gold too, for good measure
21:59:23 Webmama_Tina well the computer on the high table has to help...so you can work standing up...i dig that idea!
21:59:29 hathor yep, and you just thought I was a goddess!
21:59:33 bwilde And chocolat grows on trees?
21:59:46 Webmama_Tina mmmm chocolate treeeeeeessss
21:59:53 hathor yep, I'm eating a chocolate covered banana right now!
22:00:05 Webmama_Tina so hathor, how about the babyfest? any chance you could make it up here on the 22nd?
22:00:08 AutumnMama *drool*
22:00:11 Webmama_Tina i probably asked already and forgot
22:00:14 hathor yes, my legs get tired and that's when I know I have to quit
22:00:17 Webmama_Tina dain bramage here, sorry, LOL
22:00:40 Webmama_Tina www.fresnobabyfest.com
22:00:42 hathor I don't think I have anything planned but I need to pass it by my dearest man
22:00:50 Webmama_Tina oh that would be AWESOME!!!
22:01:07 hathor I'll try and contact you about it this week
22:01:18 Webmama_Tina we'd LOVE to have you!
22:01:27 Webmama_Tina okey dokey!
22:01:40 hathor I'm going to florida to speak at a llll meeting this fall I'm so psyched
22:01:41 bwilde Do you do advice about ADHA? They want to diag my DS (6) with this. Any foods/diet to recommend? or comments?
22:02:06 Webmama_Tina maybe you could be in our sling fashion show! LOL
22:02:19 Webmama_Tina we are always looking for more people!
22:02:23 hathor I haven't dealt with it personally, but have some friends who have gotten a lot of help out of the lates mothering mag. series on it
22:02:39 Webmama_Tina by the way...anyone local to the central valley california...we are looking for babywearers to help us out
22:02:43 mom2radata Eliminate dyes, preservatives and all that jazz
22:02:45 amyirony I went to the babywearing bonanza in NYC this winter, it was awesome to see so many babywearing mamamas
22:02:51 hathor one of my friends found that taking wheat out of her diet helped to calm her son down
22:02:55 mom2radata it helped my son a whole lot
22:02:58 Webmama_Tina that's how our babyfest is every year...full of babywearers
22:03:07 mom2radata we thought he needed committed 
22:03:16 amyirony I never understand how other NYC moms do it w strollers -- makes no sense to me.
22:03:17 hathor  but homeschooling helps a lot too
22:03:28 mom2radata yes it is one of the reasons we homeschool
22:03:56 bwilde I think I need committed.
22:04:02 mom2radata LOL
22:04:14 hathor at least it helps keep the labels from happening... mom2radata, sounds like you're dealing with it right now, anything to add?
22:04:32 mom2radata well is it a teacher pushing the agenda
22:04:43 mom2radata don't listen to teachers
22:05:00 bwilde labels can be good if it gets help/services. But I don't want to go down the wrong path.
22:05:11 hathor looking at homeschooling from the outside seems like the craziest thing in the world but once you start spending all your time together you start to get into a groove, and you won't feel quite as crazy
22:05:16 mom2radata sorry but I mean who here doesn't understand that a Kindergartener doesn't like worksheets
22:05:22 Webmama_Tina i had a friend who tried to suggest to her that her son had aspergers...because he was obsessed with dave matthews band...
22:05:45 mom2radata LOL  Now I know what is wrong with my husband at least
22:05:53 Webmama_Tina geez louise, the kid is odd, granted, but that just pissed me off that she would try to label this child and she was NOT qualified!
22:05:59 bwilde Both or all the above. His oppositional behavior is getting much worse. everything is an issue for him. 
22:06:17 hathor I like the wildest colts website
22:06:28 mom2radata that is a great one
22:06:46 bwilde I think most homeschoolers are great. but a few haven't got a clue and the kids turn out uneducated. they give it a bad name.
22:06:47 Webmama_Tina ?
22:06:51 Webmama_Tina link?
22:07:08 hathor wildestcolts.com
22:07:10 mom2radata  http://www.wildestcolts.com
22:07:16 Webmama_Tina well there's always people out there in everything to give everything a bad name, unfortunately
22:07:59 bwilde Yup.
22:08:08 hathor check out his parenting manifesto for the 21st century...I couldn't have said it better
22:08:21 mom2radata really bwilde though I would think about an elimination diet
22:08:25 hathor or maybe I wouldn't have tried, but I might cartoon it!
22:08:35 mom2radata it doesn't always work but I know that so many moms have had good luck with it
22:08:58 mom2radata I am trying to think of a free website
22:09:00 hathor check out the mothering discussion boards too, lots of great info from moms going through the same
22:09:08 bwilde Thanks! I'll try it.
22:09:15 mom2radata I got most of my info from a local pediatric chiropractor
22:09:38 hathor great! and now I have to go...I'm so sorry got to get the kiddos to bed as dh is working late
22:10:01 amyirony thanks hathor!
22:10:06 mom2radata thanks
22:10:17 hathor It was really great talking at you all ;) and I'm sorry if I didn't get to your question there's always next month!
22:10:17 Webmama_Tina thank you hathor!

 

 

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