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20:07:48 |
Webmama_Tina |
slow nite tonite...i'm gonna post to
amity...hold on |
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20:08:18 |
hathor |
Tell, them I've got a beer and feeling
frisky! Let's dish! |
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20:08:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok! |
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20:08:28 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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20:09:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
did you see the moron on the roof turned
off his comments and deleted the 7000+
that he had? |
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20:09:56 |
hathor |
Yes, just when it started getting into
our community, I bet the comments were
really getting interesting :angel: |
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20:10:27 |
hathor |
I for one mentioned that I wanted his
wife's e-mail addy so I could send her a
listing of divorce lawyers... |
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20:10:32 |
Webmama_Tina |
i know! |
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20:10:33 |
rosalind |
what's the topic tonight? |
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20:10:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
there was a lot of support for mom i
see...bet he didn't tell her that! |
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20:10:49 |
hathor |
Anything you want! |
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20:10:50 |
rosalind |
(sorry, didn't mean to interrupt) |
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20:10:53 |
Webmama_Tina |
LOL heather! |
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20:11:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
no worries, we're small tonite so i'm
not going moderated yet |
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20:11:16 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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20:11:30 |
Webmama_Tina |
so far its just the 3 of us...trying to
get the others to join us |
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20:11:38 |
hathor |
Rosalind, you have anything to talk
about? |
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20:12:04 |
rosalind |
hmm, just thinking about r4-ing, but
that's not really a question for you |
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20:12:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'm trying to get beating earth in here
but she says she doesn't get your
cartoons hathor! :( |
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20:12:52 |
rosalind |
heather, we're supposed to r4 in the
year the child is 6, right? |
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20:12:57 |
hathor |
Doesn't get them? Does that mean I'm too
obtuse? Or too imbecilic? |
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20:12:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
..yup |
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20:13:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
heather you're in cali too, right? |
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20:13:13 |
rosalind |
right, so i have another year to go |
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20:13:18 |
hathor |
Yes, when you're child is 6 here in
California |
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20:13:34 |
rosalind |
right thanks |
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20:13:38 |
hathor |
Take your time, where are you located? |
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20:13:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
the year they turn 6 before dec
something...5th? |
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20:13:53 |
rosalind |
me? or tina? |
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20:14:05 |
hathor |
Rosalind |
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20:14:15 |
rosalind |
i'm in los angeles |
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20:14:35 |
hathor |
Oh! You're that Rosalind! HI! |
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20:14:43 |
rosalind |
yes, i'm that one ;-) |
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20:15:05 |
hathor |
OK now that's really cracking me up, how
ya doing? |
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20:15:21 |
rosalind |
good. haven't seen you in ages |
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20:15:33 |
rosalind |
are you interested in doing beach days
this summer? |
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20:15:47 |
hathor |
Yeah, I've been trapped on this side of
the 405 |
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20:16:14 |
hathor |
We would love to do some beach days...we
go lots and will always go more! |
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20:16:16 |
rosalind |
i think patti might be out of the loop,
but maybe i'll start up the beach days
again for our group |
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20:16:55 |
hathor |
That would be great, and Wednesdays are
a really good time. |
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20:17:15 |
hathor |
So Tina, Yay! Some more mamas! |
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20:17:47 |
hathor |
Let's talk about something! Any
questions? |
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20:18:19 |
Webmama_Tina |
yay! sorry was posting on amity |
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20:18:29 |
Webmama_Tina |
took longer than anticipated cuz my
computer was screwing up |
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20:18:37 |
hathor |
Hey, while we have a lull can you check
out this?
http://www.thecowgoddess.com/blog/archshow.asp?var=246 |
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20:18:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
since we're slow today, lets just keep
this casual |
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20:19:15 |
hathor |
Don't read the whole letter from the
nutjob husband supporter, just halfway
and then go blah, blah, blah |
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20:19:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'll just let y'all talk when you
like...if it gets busier and starts to
get a bit crazy, then we'll switch to
moderated |
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20:19:36 |
hathor |
But then, read the Dairy Farmer's
response! He's a riot! |
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20:19:46 |
HippyMom |
OMG that's horrible |
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20:19:53 |
Beating_Earth |
I guess I missed something |
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20:20:07 |
hathor |
I can say that can't I about a Um guy I
know/pseudonym? |
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20:20:35 |
HippyMom |
speaking of babies, brb |
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20:20:54 |
Beating_Earth |
So what kind of things go along with
attatchment parenting?? |
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20:21:01 |
hathor |
Did you hear about the husband on strike
and the petition and then the counter
petition? |
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20:22:14 |
hathor |
Well, at my house AP includes
homebirthing, breastfeeding, slinging,
co-sleeping, and unschooling...but it
varies enormously in different families |
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20:22:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
oh my, what a really sad woman that is
(just read the letter) |
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20:22:37 |
leahmichal |
what exactly is the husband petitioning
for? it seems like he just wants
everyone to whine with him. |
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20:22:43 |
hathor |
AP is mostly spending your time with
your kids, because you prefer them |
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20:22:49 |
Beating_Earth |
I plan on homebirthing, breastfeeding
and slinging |
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20:22:59 |
Beating_Earth |
I plan on staying at home with them |
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20:23:00 |
hathor |
He's petitioning to get the kids out of
the bedroom |
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20:23:28 |
Beating_Earth |
we are gonna kind of co-sleep. the baby
will be beside our bed in a bassinet |
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20:23:30 |
hathor |
Good Beating_Earth , then you're AP do
you have any kids yet? |
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20:23:50 |
Beating_Earth |
no we are TTC#1 |
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20:24:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah i just don't get why people would
want a baby in another room....it just
makes NO sense to me |
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20:24:04 |
Beating_Earth |
whats this letter you guys ar talking
about |
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20:24:13 |
hathor |
Well, I'm rooting for you! |
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20:24:17 |
Webmama_Tina |
more mamas! lemme invite them over |
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20:24:18 |
Beating_Earth |
thanks! |
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20:24:53 |
hathor |
http://www.thecowgoddess.com/blog/archshow.asp?var=246 |
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20:25:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
such an exciting time, beating earth |
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20:25:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
i remember when we were ttc #1 |
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20:25:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
all my dreams were coming true...such a
sweet time...all the anticipation was so
exciting! |
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20:25:29 |
HippyMom |
ok, sorry, babies won't sleep |
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20:25:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
i hear ya hippymom |
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20:25:57 |
hathor |
You're far more AP than I was,
Beating_Earth, I had never heard of
midwifery, only wanted to breastfeed
because I knew it was cheap! |
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20:26:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
to our latecomers---since we're small
tonite we're going casual chat...feel
free to join in! |
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20:26:40 |
hathor |
Look how far I've come, I'm practically
a spokesperson! |
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20:27:02 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol heather...i learned about it when i
was pg #2 (miscarried my first)...the
lady i was nannying for had dr sear's
baby book, ezzo's babywise (*shudder*)
and ferber's book.... |
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20:27:15 |
Beating_Earth |
yeah well, its my fear of hospitals
that is why i want a home birth |
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20:27:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
after looking through them all i was
really drawn to sears...thank god! |
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20:27:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
if i hadn't had them side by side like
that i might have done things
differently...i just thought everyone
let their babies cry themselves to
sleep! |
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20:27:35 |
rosalind |
hospitals are so scary |
|
20:27:42 |
Beating_Earth |
sorry about my typing, cat is lying on
my arm |
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20:27:43 |
hathor |
How lucky Webmama_Tina that she had
Dr. Sears! |
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20:27:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes! |
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20:28:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
sadly, she did make her baby cry to
sleep, and subsequently so did i :( |
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20:28:08 |
Webmama_Tina |
her baby, not mine |
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20:28:11 |
HippyMom |
I always felt it was unnatural, even as
a babysitter, to let them cry it out |
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20:28:16 |
Webmama_Tina |
but i learned differently for my own! |
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20:28:23 |
hathor |
Hospitals are really scary. When I gave
birth in one, without drugs or
interventions they acted like I was a
freak of nature |
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20:28:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah it didn't feel right |
|
20:28:34 |
Webmama_Tina |
but i wanted to do what the mom wanted
me to do |
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20:28:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
:( |
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20:28:42 |
Webmama_Tina |
i still feel bad sometimes about that |
|
20:28:45 |
HippyMom |
I did the same |
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20:28:50 |
HippyMom |
felt horrid |
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20:28:52 |
HippyMom |
ick |
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20:29:03 |
hathor |
I was a nanny in a similar
experience...thank god we learn a better
way when we meet our own kids! |
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20:29:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
thank heavens for all the wonderful
stuff on the net and all the great books
on attachment style parenting! |
|
20:29:32 |
hathor |
And really makes you wonder why so many
people rely on the expertise of nannys,
huh? |
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20:29:42 |
Beating_Earth |
im gonna be so happy to have a baby ill
never want to put it down |
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20:29:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
i probably would have tended towards
this style anyway eventually...but to
find all that just validated it and made
me feel strong in it |
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20:29:57 |
HippyMom |
With my first, I never read anything, I
just went on instinct... he slept on my
chest for 6 months because I was afraid
he'd stop breathing |
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20:30:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
beating earth...and don't let anyone
tell you that that's wrong! :) |
|
20:30:10 |
HippyMom |
exactly |
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20:30:13 |
Beating_Earth |
:) |
|
20:30:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
because believe me, they will! |
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20:30:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
you'll probably get all kinds of flack
for it |
|
20:30:35 |
Beating_Earth |
and luckily DH and I agree on all of
this |
|
20:30:39 |
hathor |
I've been wondering why we trust nannys
and stupid men on roofs and idiots like
Dr. Phil (I've heard, I don't know him
personally) instead of trusting
mothering instincts |
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20:30:47 |
Beating_Earth |
so I have support from him if we do get
flack |
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20:30:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'm lucky cuz my family don't, but i
think i'm a rare instance |
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20:31:03 |
HippyMom |
Because we're told they know how to
mother" a baby?" |
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20:31:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol hathor, really |
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20:31:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
i like dr phil, but just for his
relationship advice....he's too much of
a control freak in his parenting style |
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20:31:47 |
hathor |
My husband used to be my cheerleader
with family, when I would leave the room
to breastfeed |
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20:31:59 |
rosalind |
how lucky |
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20:32:06 |
Beating_Earth |
Im not gonna leave the room |
|
20:32:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah that's the biggest piece of advice
i like to give to new mothers or mothers
to be....LISTEN TO YOUR HEART |
|
20:32:14 |
Beating_Earth |
they can deal |
|
20:32:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
your heart knows that babies should not
be left to cry alone |
|
20:32:25 |
rosalind |
i never left the room to bf...just used
a sling and nobody could see |
|
20:32:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
that's why moms always feel guilty |
|
20:32:33 |
hathor |
he would field questions, I found that
right after birth I was a wet noodle
about arguing things so it's good to
have a husband who will do it for you |
|
20:32:52 |
Beating_Earth |
even if we are out in public he is all
prepared to defend me |
|
20:32:57 |
Webmama_Tina |
hathor, sounds like you got a good one! |
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20:33:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
mine surprises me sometimes |
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20:33:04 |
hathor |
My first baby I would leave the
room...but sometimes it was to get a
break! |
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20:33:17 |
Webmama_Tina |
in a good way...cuz he doesn't seem so
gung ho until there's a confrontation
about something |
|
20:33:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
then i'm really proud of him |
|
20:33:23 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
|
20:33:42 |
rosalind |
mine is great too...just have to have
him come around on the UNschooling |
|
20:33:46 |
HippyMom |
men are odd creatures |
|
20:33:47 |
rosalind |
he's on board for the HOMEschooling |
|
20:34:05 |
Beating_Earth |
I was wondering if there is anything
that can help get my cycle back on
track. I was on Depo for about 6
years. Been off since last Nov but
still no AF. Anyone have any advice? |
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20:34:11 |
Beating_Earth |
What is unschooling? |
|
20:34:14 |
hathor |
My dh made me call LLL after the first
baby! |
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20:34:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
i never leave the room, but i have
nursing tops that allow me to be
discrete so i don't feel so self
conscious...but i still do feel self
conscious when i don't know how others
feel about bf...i hate that...i know i
shouldn't care, but i've heard too many
horror stories of nasty confrontations
and i hate confrontations |
|
20:34:34 |
hathor |
Unschooling is a type of homeschooling
that doesn't follow a curriculum |
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20:34:54 |
hathor |
Instead it follows the desires of the
children to learn what they want |
|
20:34:59 |
Beating_Earth |
ah I see |
|
20:35:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
child-led education |
|
20:35:12 |
Beating_Earth |
how does that work |
|
20:35:12 |
rosalind |
it's an extension of AP |
|
20:35:40 |
Webmama_Tina |
you make sure that you have a very rich
environment for your children and follow
their lead on their interests |
|
20:35:42 |
hathor |
I unschool my kids and have reall loved
it so far! |
|
20:36:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
originally i was thinking unschooling
would be a lot easier...but i can see
now how it can really be a lot of
work...in a good way, i think |
|
20:36:25 |
HippyMom |
How old are yours, hathor? |
|
20:36:34 |
rosalind |
it's okay to introduce things to the
kids, but generally you're following
what they indicate interest in. |
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20:36:39 |
hathor |
8, 5 and 1 |
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20:36:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
i am sorta unschooling...but we're going
to be getting the enki curriculum soon
for my daughter and i'll be weaving that
in as well |
|
20:37:15 |
Beating_Earth |
Doesnt home schooling cost alot for all
the materials you need |
|
20:37:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
hathor is your 5 a girl or boy? |
|
20:37:23 |
tuckersmom |
hathor, are you doing ec with your
youngest? |
|
20:37:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
Beating_Earth doesn't have to |
|
20:37:27 |
rosalind |
we're unschooling, but i just bought
this cool math program...not going to
force him to use it, but i think he'll
want to |
|
20:37:32 |
Webmama_Tina |
there's tons of free stuff on the net
and the library |
|
20:37:35 |
hathor |
I really love classical education so I
always have a lot of books around |
|
20:37:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
what exactly is classical education? i
keep hearing that term |
|
20:37:58 |
hathor |
My 5 is a girl, they're all girls... |
|
20:38:05 |
HippyMom |
brb, babies again |
|
20:38:06 |
Beating_Earth |
ive never really thought about home
schooling. I wouldnt know exactly how
to do it. Id be afraid of screwing up
my kids |
|
20:38:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
hathor, my 5 is a girl too! when's her
birthday? mine is nov 4 |
|
20:38:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
Beating_Earth read teach your own" by
john holt and you'll change your mind on
that" |
|
20:38:45 |
Beating_Earth |
ok |
|
20:38:45 |
hathor |
It's an education heavy on classics and
history, instead of science it's reading
about the lives of scientists... |
|
20:38:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
you won't screw them up...you're more
qualified to teach them than a stranger |
|
20:39:05 |
rosalind |
besides, beating earth, you'll develop
intuition when your baby is born and
just follow through with that into the
education field |
|
20:39:18 |
Beating_Earth |
I guess so |
|
20:39:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
of course, homeschooling isn't for
everyone |
|
20:39:25 |
hathor |
I'm listening to my kids find stuff on
the globe right now with my dh at the
dinnertable |
|
20:39:26 |
Beating_Earth |
I had a horrible school life |
|
20:39:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
but if you are interested, check out
that book...just see what you think
after you read it. :) |
|
20:39:39 |
Beating_Earth |
ok I will |
|
20:39:42 |
Webmama_Tina |
me too...i always hated school |
|
20:40:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
we turned the amazing race into a
geography lesson |
|
20:40:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
i think homeschooling is a blast! |
|
20:40:09 |
rosalind |
i loved school...too much...collected
too many advanced degrees! :-) |
|
20:40:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
and i haven't even hardly started |
|
20:40:38 |
rosalind |
unschooling is so fun...because living
life, everything is educational |
|
20:40:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
with the baby, i just haven't had time
to pursue putting much thought into
anything education wise for maeven...but
the amazing race idea came up on another
group i'm on and i love that show so
that really has been great for us |
|
20:41:08 |
hathor |
I loved school too, but now I see it as
a way to just conform, and it's very
dog-eat-dog, I'd rather protect my
children from that in their fromative
years |
|
20:41:15 |
Beating_Earth |
oops |
|
20:41:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
i see it as assembly line education and
i just want so much more for my children |
|
20:41:40 |
Webmama_Tina |
in our area public schools are horrid
though |
|
20:41:41 |
hathor |
I read the book the Classical Mind...I
like how it divides the years up into
periods of history |
|
20:41:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
i know there are some great programs out
there elsewhere...we don't have them
here |
|
20:41:51 |
rosalind |
yeah, i kind of loved school sometimes
for the wrong reasons...being really
good at writing tests and beating other
people's scores, etc. |
|
20:42:14 |
hathor |
for instance, 1st greade is ancient
times, 2nd grade medieval... |
|
20:42:31 |
rosalind |
you're talking about The Well Trained
Mind, right, heather? |
|
20:43:09 |
hathor |
Using that as a rough guide, I collect
books from the library from and about
those time periods just to read... |
|
20:43:39 |
hathor |
Oh yes, the well-trained mind. I don't
follow it like a curriculum just as a
good book list. |
|
20:43:49 |
Beating_Earth |
I found that john holt book in my
library. im gonna put it on hold |
|
20:43:55 |
hathor |
Cheers! just remembered my beer. |
|
20:44:18 |
hathor |
AAAA h, I LOVE Joh Holt! |
|
20:44:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
Beating_Earth you'll love it, i swear!
its really awesome! |
|
20:44:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
he has a bunch of other books too |
|
20:44:42 |
Webmama_Tina |
how children fail", "how children
learn"...and i don't know the other
titles. but i know there's more" |
|
20:44:47 |
hathor |
Hey Beating_Earth, have you read the
continuum concept? |
|
20:45:02 |
Webmama_Tina |
hathor, that's cool...i'll have to look
more into classical education |
|
20:45:04 |
Beating_Earth |
no I havent read that one |
|
20:45:12 |
Beating_Earth |
Tina, they have about 11 of his books |
|
20:45:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
awesome! |
|
20:45:53 |
rosalind |
there are some books that tell the story
of particular unschooling families,
too...i like Hard Time in Paradise by
the Colfaxes |
|
20:45:58 |
hathor |
Webmama_Tina, I've been so SCHOOLED that
it's hard for me to back off sometimes,
the WTMind gives me something to
do...while I leave my kids alone, I hope
that makes sense! |
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20:46:52 |
HippyMom |
do you have any experience with Special
Needs kids? |
|
20:47:02 |
Webmama_Tina |
i really like doing lesson plans...i was
a preschool teacher and then i taught at
an outdoor school and then at a local
kids science museum so i've done lots of
science lessons...so i will never
totally unschool, i love lessons too
much, LOL |
|
20:47:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
but i will be very eclectic, i'm sure,
once i'm full steam |
|
20:47:32 |
Beating_Earth |
I am also putting Learning all the time
by John Holt on hold as well |
|
20:47:33 |
hathor |
No, but I meet with a Lot of mamas in
parkdays and have met a LOt of mothers
who are experienced with special needs |
|
20:47:55 |
Webmama_Tina |
sounds good, i'll have to check that one
out |
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20:48:07 |
hathor |
It's a good reason to homeschool, if you
don't want the schools to label your
kids |
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20:48:07 |
Webmama_Tina |
hey hathor, weren't yout he one that
recommended the richest man in babylon? |
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20:48:08 |
Beating_Earth |
Ill go downtown tomorrow and pick them
up |
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20:48:22 |
HippyMom |
We're at sort of a crossroads with my 5
year old, he's in school but not
kindergarten yet... I see him totally
differently than they do |
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20:48:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
there are sooooo many reasons why i'm
homeschooling...the list is huge |
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20:48:29 |
hathor |
Nope, sounds interesting! |
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20:48:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
i wrote an essay on it, anyone wanna
see? |
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20:48:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
oh gosh, who was it? |
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20:48:39 |
Webmama_Tina |
hmmmm |
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20:48:52 |
rosalind |
pls send the link to your essay, tina |
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20:49:01 |
Webmama_Tina |
i swear i thought it was you heather,
hmmm |
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20:49:04 |
Beating_Earth |
Is Continuum Concept by Jean Liedloff |
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20:49:06 |
Beating_Earth |
?? |
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20:49:10 |
rosalind |
yes |
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20:49:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
yup |
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20:49:14 |
Beating_Earth |
waht is it about |
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20:49:21 |
rosalind |
there's a website too for continuum
concept |
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20:49:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok lemme find it |
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20:49:29 |
Beating_Earth |
can you post it |
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20:49:40 |
Webmama_Tina |
its called why i believe in
homeschooling"
http://fresnofamily.com/homeschool/believe.html" |
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20:49:41 |
hathor |
I think labeling is one of the worst
parts about school, have you read the
Holt books HippyMom? |
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20:50:08 |
HippyMom |
no, I haven't |
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20:50:09 |
rosalind |
www.continuum-concept.org/ |
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20:50:19 |
hathor |
Yes, it's my fav about to be a mom
book...it's about a woman who went to
the amazon and lived |
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20:50:23 |
HippyMom |
I'm kind of in a tail spin at this point |
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20:50:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
continuum concept is an awesome
book...but i tell ya, some of the people
on her list are more than a little
extreme in their interpretation of it in
their daily living, sheesh! |
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20:50:32 |
Webmama_Tina |
there' |
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20:50:34 |
Webmama_Tina |
woops |
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20:50:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
there's fundies in everything aren't
there? wowee |
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20:51:04 |
hathor |
with the yequana indians and wrote about
how they raised their children and how
it differs from our culture |
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20:51:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
i talked with jean liedloff on the phone
once |
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20:51:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
interesting woman |
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20:51:24 |
hathor |
It is a really good read, and
interesting for a LOT of dad's too |
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20:51:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
MAN does she hate dr sears though! |
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20:51:31 |
Beating_Earth |
hathor what book is that?? |
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20:51:42 |
Webmama_Tina |
she went on and on and on about that
man", practically spitting venom" |
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20:51:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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20:51:48 |
hathor |
She hates DR Sears? Oooooh, tell me
more! |
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20:51:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
she says he stole her idea |
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20:52:10 |
HippyMom |
I'm sorry, but the girls won't let me
play anymore... have a wonderful night
everyone! |
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20:52:11 |
hathor |
Beating_Earth , the yequana indians one
is the continuum concept |
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20:52:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
attachment parenting was hers...the
original time of his book had a
different name |
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20:52:17 |
Beating_Earth |
ah ok thanks |
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20:52:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
woops |
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20:52:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
title not time |
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20:52:30 |
hathor |
Good night Hippy Mom! |
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20:52:35 |
Beating_Earth |
nite hiipymom |
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20:52:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
lemme find it on amazon, hold on... |
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20:52:58 |
Beating_Earth |
I have three books on hold at the
library right now. |
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20:53:11 |
Beating_Earth |
two by john holt and that amazon one you
guys are talking about |
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20:53:14 |
rosalind |
i bet dr. sears made a ton more money on
the idea than jean leidloff did |
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20:53:24 |
hathor |
Wow! I have a dream about editing a book
about the continuum concept |
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20:53:41 |
Beating_Earth |
brb |
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20:53:53 |
Beating_Earth |
back |
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20:53:59 |
hathor |
full of articles and essays about CC
life...I wondered just the other day if
I could get her to approve of it |
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20:54:12 |
hathor |
Sounds like she's a little controlling! |
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20:54:29 |
Webmama_Tina |
still looking...yeah she says he totally
got the idea for attachment parenting
from her book and ran with it |
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20:54:58 |
rosalind |
no question, dr. sears is good at
marketing |
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20:55:09 |
hathor |
Well, I'm so glad he did with his
Doctorate and 8! children, she's a
fashion model with no children |
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20:55:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
found it |
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20:55:11 |
rosalind |
he's basically written one book and
repackaged it a bunch of times |
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20:55:24 |
rosalind |
great content, but really, it's one book |
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20:55:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
he did have continuum concept in his
original title and i just couldn't find
it...here it is.... |
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20:55:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
his original book was publised in 83 |
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20:55:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0396082645/qid=1144288459/sr=1-49/ref=sr_1_49/002-5928889-0991268?s=books&v=glance&n=283155 |
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20:55:59 |
hathor |
so though her theory is wonderful and
her book is great I'm certainly glad
it's been packaged by more people |
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20:56:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
heck ya |
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20:56:15 |
Webmama_Tina |
and it not like the concept is HERS |
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20:56:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
its ancient |
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20:56:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
here's the interesting part...in 87 it
looks like he republished that book with
a new title:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0396090354/qid=1144288459/sr=1-50/ref=sr_1_50/002-5928889-0991268?s=books&v=glance&n=283155 |
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20:57:09 |
Webmama_Tina |
that seems to be when he coined the term
attachment parenting"" |
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20:57:13 |
hathor |
Thanks Tina! Now I know for sure that I
can't write a book called Parenting and
the Continuum Concept! hee hee *) |
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20:57:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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20:57:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah she'd have a total co |
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20:57:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
cow |
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20:57:30 |
Webmama_Tina |
pun intended |
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20:57:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
LOL |
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20:57:35 |
hathor |
Unless I want to take Liedloff
anti-venom! |
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20:57:39 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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20:57:44 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah man you should have heard her! |
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20:57:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
i couldn't believe the fire in her
voice... |
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20:57:55 |
rosalind |
huh! so he really did copy the idea from
her, but changed the name |
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20:57:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
she literally said THAT man!"" |
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20:58:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
yup looks like it |
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20:58:08 |
My2girlsmama |
not sure what all the chat is about I
just wanted to pop in to say Hathor
you're so awesome and the comics
rock...the latest on that moron husband
on strike you totally got it...and thank
you for it. :) |
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20:58:15 |
hathor |
I should call her sometime, I wonder
what she thinks about my stuff? |
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20:58:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol, dunno |
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20:58:34 |
Webmama_Tina |
she's a cool lady though, just don't
talk about dr sears with her, lol! |
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20:58:41 |
hathor |
Hi My2girlsmama , and thank you! |
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20:58:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
or attachment parenting |
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20:59:21 |
My2girlsmama |
your most welcome...I send my Bf mamas I
counsel and from groups I run to you and
your work..and I thank you. Have a great
night! |
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20:59:30 |
rosalind |
well, i think they both deserve
credit...obviously he managed to get
acceptance for the ideas in a way that
she couldn't/didn't |
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21:00:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
rosalind but dr sears has taken it so
much further and done so much for
children everywhere with it...i can't
see how that is a bad thing |
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21:00:32 |
hathor |
rosalind, so true... her book is so
open-ended its like the bible, to be
interpreted! His is a how-to manual,
there's no interpretation necessary |
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21:00:38 |
Beating_Earth |
so is Dr. sears a good one to read too?? |
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21:00:53 |
Webmama_Tina |
heck ya |
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21:00:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
anything by dr sears is awesome |
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21:01:05 |
Beating_Earth |
ok ill check it out too |
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21:01:23 |
hathor |
Yes, it's one of the best hey speaking
of here's a book list...http://www.thecowgoddess.com/newmamaproject.html |
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21:01:28 |
rosalind |
i agree with you, tina |
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21:01:59 |
hathor |
The mothers who get my comic (hint hint
Beating_Earth) sent me their favs!
:angel: |
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21:02:01 |
Webmama_Tina |
hey beating earth, here's a book list i
compiled sometime ago you may be
interested in: http://fresnofamily.com/ap/apbooks.htm |
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21:02:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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21:02:18 |
Webmama_Tina |
heather i gotta get your book soon |
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21:02:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
add it to my list |
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21:02:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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21:02:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
hey mamas, i gotta git |
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21:02:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
i have a scrapping party that i'm
already late for... |
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21:02:41 |
hathor |
Did you see the review in Mothering? |
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21:02:42 |
Beating_Earth |
have a good nite Tina |
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21:02:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
but y'all stay and chat as long as you
like! |
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21:02:44 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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21:03:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'm not gonna worry about the room
tonite...it'll close when the last of
you leaves. :) |
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21:03:06 |
hathor |
Thanks! I can only stay for a couple of
minutes any more questions? |
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21:03:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
thanks again hathor for another fun
chat!!!! |
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21:03:22 |
hathor |
Thank you! |
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21:03:23 |
Webmama_Tina |
toodles mamas! :) |
