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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Hathor the Cowgoddess --Hathor lives in the middle of urban sprawl with her dearest super-husband and three wee and wise kids. She has had an unassisted birth in the middle of her 700 square foot apartment, she breastfeeds on demand and in public, she shares sleep, maintains constant contact and unschools. Not only does she do all of this, she does it with grand style and verve. With extravagant and outrageous behavior. And with her trusty sidekick baby in a sling.

Hathor is the completely true product of the imagination of Heather Cushman-Dowdee, an outraged (because she might look distracted but she is paying attention! ) mama who has done almost all of the above (that part is autobiography)... except for the part that she totally makes up (those parts are wishful thinking). The raucous exploits of Hathor and her family are produced in comic form on the web and printed in many, many zines and magazines and books, too.

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6/7/06

25 mothers in attendance

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20:07:13 Webmama_Tina ok today we have our wonderful cow goddess hathor again!
20:07:15 Webmama_Tina MOOO!!!
20:07:16 Webmama_Tina LOL!
20:07:25 Webmama_Tina i need a moo cow emoticon
20:07:32 hathor hee hee hee! moo to you too
20:07:34 Webmama_Tina have to go look for one later
20:07:36 Webmama_Tina :)
20:07:43 milkymama that would be great!
20:07:52 Webmama_Tina ok mamas, start throwing out your question marks and i'll start collecting thme
20:07:53 Webmama_Tina them
20:08:09 Webmama_Tina and hathor, if you want to give an intro just in case there's someone here who doesn't know who you are....
20:08:15 Webmama_Tina then let me know when you're ready for your first question
20:08:16 hathor Okay my 1 year old is going to sleep in arms...yum getting very sleepy, very sleepy
20:08:28 hathor and she's out!
20:08:58 milkymama a year old already, wow
20:09:09 hathor Hi I'm Hathor, (Heather in real life)
20:09:30 JustMoza ?
20:09:38 hathor My littlest is going to be two a tthe end of this month! can't believe it
20:10:03 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  JustMoza
20:10:13 hathor and I'm thinking she's going to be my last, so who knows what will happen
20:10:22 hathor with the comic?
20:10:34 JustMoza It's been a while for me since I've been in chat so please forgive me. Now Hathor - HOW do you find the time?
20:11:03 hathor perhaps I'll start having to make stuff up, :angel:
20:11:07 JustMoza I only have one who is 8 now (cry my BF days are long over)
20:11:13 Webmama_Tina lol
20:11:34 hathor How do I find the time? hmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonderi f I have time?
20:11:45 Webmama_Tina (sorry, that was a lol for what hathor said, not you moza)  :)
20:12:22 hathor My dh is really a hands on guy but I still don't leave most of the kids hardly ever, but having more than 1 helps, I think because they play with each other
20:12:29 JustMoza lol  :D
20:12:36 hathor and I draw really really reallly fast!
20:12:44 hathor much faster than I type
20:13:34 hathor I come up with ideas when I'm out and about wit h the kiddos and then draw them sitting at the kitchen table
20:13:57 hathor just takes a few minutes...then I spend way toooooooooo much time on the computer.
20:14:01 JustMoza I'm a work at home while unschooling mom and I have a hard time, are you still unschooling?
20:14:33 hathor yep, I unschool too, and
20:14:49 hathor spend a LOT of time with the kids at parkdays.
20:15:10 milkymama what exactly is unschooling"?"
20:15:32 hathor Unschooling is homeschooling without the curriculum,
20:15:40 milkymama oh cool
20:15:53 hathor and without t he idea that the parents have to TEACH for the kids to learn.
20:16:11 JustMoza Unschooling is a kind of homeschooling, it's very dependent upon what the child wants to learn
20:16:43 hathor The idea is that the kids WANT to learn, and that a lot of times grownups just get in their way :)
20:17:06 sophy ?
20:17:25 hathor we don't look at everything as a learning experience, but funny just about everything is!
20:17:43 Webmama_Tina sophy's up next after justmoza's done
20:17:55 hathor It's kind of hard to describe, but how your child learns to walk is unschooling....
20:17:59 JustMoza You can go ahead sophy
20:18:05 hathor sophy?
20:18:13 sophy How do you discipline?
20:18:22 hathor Well....
20:18:34 sophy I have a 3.5 dd and 1. ds
20:18:50 hathor I go from gentle discipline
20:19:03 hathor to barely holding it together some days
20:19:10 sophy same here
20:19:22 hathor just like most of you
20:19:47 hathor I try to look at our family as a team that works things out
20:19:47 sophy lately i've been taking my dd to the bathroom for a time-in
20:19:57 sophy if the little one is ok with it
20:20:03 hathor but I do have a temper sometimes too.
20:20:51 hathor Time-in a room worked a few times for us, but I have a difficult time getting my dd (eldest) to do anything she doesn't want to do
20:21:16 hathor so I have had to adapt to a more discussy type relationship.
20:21:31 JustMoza ?
20:21:42 hathor I've found a LOT of recent advice from How to Talk...
20:21:54 hathor The first chapter is all I've read
20:22:15 sophy thanks, that helps
20:22:17 hathor But my philosophy today is that I need to be quiet more often.
20:22:35 hathor I plan on doing some more comics about it soon...
20:22:47 sophy looking forward
20:23:00 hathor Hey, and I geta lot of help from a friend who runs www.enjoyparenting.com
20:23:31 hathor hehas a daily e-zine that gives me a helpful feeling to start the day
20:23:42 hathor JustMoza?
20:23:57 JustMoza I'm looking foward to new comics on the discussion technique myself
20:24:17 hathor It goes somethinig lke this
20:24:35 hathor My kids do something that make me crazy
20:24:35 JustMoza That's what we do is just talk about everything - talk about the rpos and cons of doing something - who it would upset - who it would upset etc
20:24:54 hathor my first reaction is not a good one
20:25:00 JustMoza pros & cons I mean - the older he gets the easier it is - how old is your oldest?
20:25:18 hathor so on good days I try taking  a deep breath, calming down and
20:25:31 hathor thinking of a better reaction.
20:25:59 hathor Usually when I think of a better reaction quite a few minutes have passed already
20:26:19 hathor and we can move on to something else :blush:
20:26:24 JustMoza I like to think that the reaction is my CHOICE - it's not something that just happens, I choose how my reaction happens, it is hard but it gets easier
20:27:01 JustMoza Sorry - so how old are your kids?
20:27:04 hathor My eldest is 9 and we have always had a volatile relationship, and a really lovely one too. She helps to keep me real
20:28:02 caitplove ?
20:28:17 JustMoza real is good- at that age they really call it like they see it! LOL
20:28:20 hathor Yes, I used ot think that my reaction was caused by others, my love for  my kidlets has shown me that my reaction has more to do with me.
20:28:38 hathor Isn't that the truth!
20:28:45 hathor caitplove ?
20:28:50 caitplove I don't have much of a ?, but I wanted you to know how much i appreciate what you do.
20:29:00 zalenskifine ?
20:29:05 caitplove I love your book, and show it to everyone to spread the word
20:29:30 hathor Why thank you... almost 2000 mamas getting my e-zine now! :D
20:29:36 Webmama_Tina argh my son is really hating me on the computer...juggling like crzy
20:30:02 caitplove I even won a shirt at a LLL event :)
20:30:15 hathor I love the letters I get and really love that so many people enjoy my little comic.
20:30:22 hathor conrgats!
20:30:38 hathor What event?
20:30:48 hathor I ov LLL :heart:
20:31:08 hathor I haven't been to a meeting in a long tmie
20:31:09 caitplove A chapel hill benefit and silent auction a couple months ago
20:31:14 hathor zalenskifine ?
20:31:38 hathor ahhhh chapel hill! I used to l ivien Raleighh..
20:31:41 kristenandmadeleine ?
20:31:46 caitplove that's where I am!!
20:31:50 hathor man I got a stiky keyboard!
20:31:52 Zoomommy ?
20:32:11 hathor zalenskifine ? your question?
20:32:59 zalenskifine I just wanted to say hi and I was wondering some more about your relationship with your oldest, my son and i are kinda like that and he is five
20:33:06 hathor kristenandmadeleine ?your question?
20:33:33 kristenandmadeleine Ohh, zalenskifine just asked.  I'll wait until after they ask their question
20:34:04 hathor Well, when I am being authentic and true and feeling right with things we usually get along really well, but when I'm
20:34:15 hathor at a loss we can but heads.
20:34:33 hathor for instance, I tried to teach her to read
20:35:03 hathor when she was 6, against my unschooly-y pricniple
20:35:08 zalenskifine we are having troubles with reading too,  he is pure resistance
20:35:55 hathor I got a book and made her sit and read it with me, there was yelling and tears and she threw
20:36:04 hathor temper tantrums too.
20:36:31 hathor Then one day she hid the book in the closet :banghead
20:37:10 hathor and I couldn't find it and I was sooooo mad, but it gave me a wake-up call that I was forcing mywill on hers.
20:37:33 hathor why was I so set on her reading? becausef o my educational hang ups.
20:37:36 zalenskifine I know I need to chill about that kind of stuff but I start to feel that pressure for him to do things
20:38:18 hathor so I shut-up and backed off and she taught herself to read at 8.
20:38:58 hathor There is a lot of pressure, but if you can find a way to keep it from bothering you
20:39:07 hathor I promise you he will read
20:39:15 zalenskifine thanks, I wanted to make sure I joined the chat today, especially because of the lost reference!
20:39:34 hathor Kids really want to read when they're ready for it.
20:39:48 hathor Gosh, isn't that the BEST show ever!
20:39:56 RAGDOLL I have a 15 yr old who has been unschooled and now a 4 month old.  My oldest resisted everything I tried early on then taught herself in a matter of a week, same with typing, spelling, etc.
20:40:21 zalenskifine I know, its hard with kiddos, the outside world (family) is always putting the pressure on
20:40:22 hathor Yep, when they are ready it just comes to them.
20:40:36 hathor Yep, here's an idea
20:40:36 RAGDOLL as soon as she found a reason to want to she went for it
20:40:42 zalenskifine Lost is the best show, crazy ending!
20:41:00 hathor Start teaching yourself a bunch of stuff, like latin or guitar
20:41:20 hathor It'll give you something to do  to stop pressureing
20:41:44 hathor your kids and then when your family starts pressuring you
20:41:55 zalenskifine I know, i'm back in school now so that helps even things out around here
20:42:05 RAGDOLL my 15 year old just asked to learn the violin so now we will both be learning
20:42:13 hathor you can whip out the latin phrases until they are so board they leave you alone. hee hee
20:42:43 zalenskifine thats a good idea, you remind me of some of my good friends around here, lots of love, gotta go study
20:42:47 mamaofthree ?
20:43:11 hathor Yep, when they start to pressure  you break out the books and wow them with what you're choosing to learn!
20:43:31 hathor kristenandmadeleine ?
20:43:34 Webmama_Tina YAY angie's here to help! :)  sorry mamas, i'm back and forth tonite with my kiddos since my dh isn't home yet
20:43:49 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): kristenandmadeleine    mamaofthree
20:43:51 kristenandmadeleine okay, i gotta do this one handed
20:44:13 mboo Hey whats up?  Im new
20:44:33 hathor questions?
20:44:41 hathor Hi mboo
20:44:55 kristenandmadeleine i have read about your UA and was wondering about your thoughts on reproductive rights.
20:45:10 kristenandmadeleine I mean, we have the right to abort, the right to elect a section, but not the right to vbac in most cases
20:45:13 mboo am I suppose to have a question?
20:45:22 Webmama_Tina mboo glad you made it!
20:45:32 Webmama_Tina we are doing a moderated chat with hathor the cow goddess
20:45:34 hathor Yeah, a while back
20:45:38 Webmama_Tina here's the info:
20:45:41 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
20:45:45 kristenandmadeleine i was chatting with my fellow ICAN-ers  and we were talking about how we have the reproductive rights to all of those, but not a vbac
20:45:54 Webmama_Tina and hathor's site: www.thecowgoddess.com
20:46:19 mboo I joined to meet moms.  I don't really understand how this works?
20:46:33 hathor a friend told me that you can go on the NOW website and search abortion and comeu p with thousands o f refrences
20:46:46 hathor but homebirth didn't have any
20:46:55 kristenandmadeleine extactly
20:47:15 Webmama_Tina i'm PMing you mboo
20:47:32 hathor I met a woman who  was th founder of an association for women
20:47:58 hathor who had hystreectomies while under for c-sections. without
20:48:11 hathor their consents!
20:48:18 kristenandmadeleine i swear, trying to find someone to to vbac me and who wont freak out about my last birth thinking i am broken makes shoving my baby back up the birth canal seem like tea time
20:48:43 hathor Where do you live?
20:48:49 kristenandmadeleine florida
20:49:00 kristenandmadeleine i am homebirthing my next.  after my first i am terrified of hospitals
20:49:24 hathor Man, I had a lovelyh omebirth in Tampa with a woman named Karin kearns, can you get to her?
20:49:41 kristenandmadeleine there is only one midwife that will take me on and because everyone else is scared of my past condition""
20:49:48 hathor she rocks! and medicaid paid for it :D
20:49:52 kristenandmadeleine i have heard of her.  is she through labour of love?
20:50:21 kristenandmadeleine i delivered through bayfront medical center.  they thought it was no big deal for me not to see my daughter for 20 hours after a section under general.
20:50:36 hathor I can get you her info if you'll e-mail me (you can tell her I sent you)
20:51:07 hathor and I would love to hear how it goes.
20:51:19 kristenandmadeleine awsome.  'i have fou'nd a coupl'e of midwives 1through the dunedin birthing center labour of love.  my friend delivered through them and had nothing but great things to say about them.  i am in st petersburg
20:51:55 hathor It might be worthwhile to reade some of the unassisted birth stories there are women who've done vbacs ua
20:51:56 kristenandmadeleine i am not pregnant right now, buti want to know my options
20:52:15 kristenandmadeleine i would love to.  but i would feel safer with someone attending me
20:52:21 kristenandmadeleine my placenta ruptured last time
20:52:40 hathor Well, whaty t haere doing to mothers with the c-sections  is atravesty.
20:53:10 hathor It's up to us to spread the word that birth is normal.
20:53:11 kristenandmadeleine it is.  treating us like broken women after.  i had my ob tell me off for asking about a vbac because of g fetal death!! uterine rupture1!!!""
20:53:44 kristenandmadeleine it is a damn shame when i know the stats better than he does and have to point them out to him.  and they say he is the top ob in the area.
20:53:53 hathor man...I'm not a big fan o f obs
20:54:18 hathor is there a next question?
20:54:19 MOD_Angie CORRECTION upcoming chatter(s):  zoomommy   mamaofthree
20:54:28 kristenandmadeleine after this neither am i.  madeleine was my first and i didnt know about midwives.  i know better now.   thank you
20:54:36 hathor zoomaommy?
20:54:38 Zoomommy Ok my question, I'm trying to wean my 4mo. old son of his swaddling blanket--he's big and he has started rolling over in it :( .  He was sleeping 7+hours in it, now without it its 3 at a time...any ideas? I'm getting sleep deprivation again :)
20:55:27 hathor Well, my advice is that you
20:56:03 hathor probably won't hve 7 hours of sleep anymor efor abotu oh, I'd say 3 years!  :)
20:56:10 Zoomommy eek
20:56:28 milkymama ?
20:57:06 hathor Yeah, the swaddling b lanket probably h elped, butbabies also sleep more when they are little.
20:57:20 Zoomommy He never slept much
20:57:30 Zoomommy doesn't take naps well either
20:57:40 hathor I know, it's frightening, but I promise you'll live through it if you say to yourself, this too shall pass
20:58:08 Zoomommy That's my motto.
20:58:48 hathor at 4 months he should be sleeping about an hour at random intervals all day long, in the sling of course! :D
20:59:05 Zoomommy The little man likes to fall asleep nursing then pops awake the moment you try to put him in his hammock
20:59:46 hathor So, now that it's warm I'd jst lose the swaddling blanket and see what happens...get the boobie ready!
20:59:46 Zoomommy He loves his sling, but wont fall asleep in it- far too much to see up there :)
21:00:22 Zoomommy No kiddin :) I'm getting sore again :))
21:00:55 hathor Yeah, just spend more time walking in the sling, rythmic motion, the awake alert phase in the sling is really really important
21:01:49 hathor he sounds like a man who knows what he needs, congratulations! a 4 mo old, I'm going to get weepy!
21:01:54 Webmama_Tina woops, chat time is up...how much longer did you want to go hathor?
21:01:56 hathor milkymama ?
21:02:06 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  mamaofthree    milkymama
21:02:08 milkymama mamaofthree was before me
21:02:12 mamaofthree I have no question that I can say coherently tonight. I just wanted to say your website is rockin' and I love you!
21:02:17 hathor I can gof a ew meo rminutes!
21:02:38 Webmama_Tina ok
21:02:50 milkymama my question is my 4.5 month old does not like the sling
21:02:56 milkymama what can I do??
21:03:10 hathor Hi Mamaofthree I love you too! and thanks for all you do (you're my star commenter)!
21:03:15 milkymama I loved it with my now 3 year old, I could do anything with her in the sling nursing
21:04:03 hathor Hmmmm...
21:04:24 hathor Mayb ethe difference is that you've slowed down, or
21:04:40 hathor that it's not the right sling or something?
21:04:42 milkymama slowed down?
21:05:10 hathor I mean not as active, because you have a 3 yearold hanging with you? I don't know
21:05:25 milkymama LOL I have a 5 year old, 3 year old, and the baby
21:06:21 hathor Ah!what does he do to lety ou know he doesn't like it?
21:06:47 milkymama she is fine in it for about 5 minutes then starts pulling away, trying to roll" out"
21:07:06 milkymama I have tried different positions, tightness, etc.
21:07:45 milkymama the sling is a home made one, that I did with rings & a flat sheet
21:07:56 hathor wow, I'm kind of stumped, but I would just keep at it, change my mind about it, tell myself that it's just a phase or someithng.
21:08:12 milkymama ok, thank you
21:08:16 milkymama I love the ezine
21:08:43 hathor for instance, the sling is os necessary as you know, for you to get anything done. so if you matter of factly just carry on
21:09:30 hathor Maybe laugh at the b aby and try to come up with a funny movement that you do when he tries to roll out...
21:09:44 milkymama at almost 5 months, is there maybe a better position for her?
21:10:46 milkymama I MISS MY ARMS
21:13:03 jdelugach Hi, is anyone still here?
21:13:20 milkymama I think so
21:13:24 Webmama_Tina :)
21:13:33 jdelugach It's my first time in here
21:13:37 Webmama_Tina was that the last question?
21:13:55 Webmama_Tina hey milkymama...both of my kiddos didn't particularly care for the sling when they were really little either
21:14:08 Webmama_Tina both of them got used to it as they got older and were able to hip carry
21:14:15 milkymama so she isn't alone? yay
21:14:26 Webmama_Tina and cuz i persisted and kept putting them in it...they just got used to it eventually
21:14:52 Webmama_Tina naw mine really hated the cradle hold
21:15:03 Webmama_Tina once i started wearing them upright they were happy
21:15:04 milkymama she actually seems to like laying on the floor playing with a rattle or something
21:15:14 hathor Hey! My computer crashed!
21:15:17 Webmama_Tina oh no!
21:15:18 Webmama_Tina lol
21:15:22 milkymama wb hathor
21:15:34 hathor I didn't mean to blow you off midsentence!
21:15:35 Zoomommy wb :)
21:15:51 hathor I was just gonna say dance more worry less or something like that!
21:16:15 hathor and the kangaroo hold was really helpful to me my 2nd loved it!
21:16:18 milkymama since she started rolling, she prefers floor time
21:16:59 hathor yep, the older they get the more they like being where the action is, expecially with the extra kids running around!
21:17:18 hathor Were there anymore questions, before I go?
21:17:24 milkymama YES, she tries to follow her brother
21:17:37 Zoomommy night all, thanks and see you again!
21:17:51 hathor talk to you next month!
21:17:51 karma_momma ?
21:17:54 milkymama thank you Heather, great to chat with you!
21:17:56 jdelugach Sorry I missed most of it Hathor, but maybe next time I'll tune in on time
21:17:59 jdelugach thank you
21:18:02 hathor karma_momma ?
21:18:07 caitplove Thanks, Heather! Goodnight.
21:18:09 JustMoza Thanks for all the terrific comics and work you do!
21:18:28 hathor I'll stay for karma momma's question...
21:18:54 Webmama_Tina ok
21:18:58 jdelugach the last few comics have been awesome
21:19:12 hathor thanks! it's a happy thing!
21:19:16 karma_momma sorry, I'll make this quick. I have had a few friends recently who gave birth and were gung ho bout breastfeeding, then after a couple weeks they quit. I tried to be supportive and help them with their problems, but they gave me the line that it just can'W
21:19:32 karma_momma thanks for staying another minute :)
21:19:39 hathor what's up with that line!? I've heard it so many times
21:20:00 hathor it comes from believing deep down that you don't work (in my opinion)
21:20:04 karma_momma I know! They say I know it has worked well for you(still nursing my 14 month old) but it just isn't my thing
21:20:57 karma_momma yea, it bums me out. Just wondered if you had a way of dealing with that
21:21:00 hathor and they get told in so many subtle ways that it's okay to not be the *perfect* breastfeeding mom"
21:21:32 milkymama & in not so subtle ways that formula is EASIER
21:21:39 hathor plus! they are only thinking about the short term. Today it's hard to breastfeed, but in 6 months it will be AWESOME!
21:21:39 milkymama HAHAHAHA
21:21:47 karma_momma yea, I can't tell u how many well meaning" relatives bought me formula for when it doesn't work out"
21:22:01 karma_momma right!
21:22:18 hathor We've just got to keep spreading the news...I guess and
21:22:35 hathor keep doing the best we can...
21:22:56 hathor motherhood seems to make us find all new friends
21:23:03 milkymama thank you for the idea of the signs where you NIP at.  I printed some business cards & leave them where I NIP
21:23:15 karma_momma allright thanks! I love your comics and forward them often.
21:23:44 hathor Yay! Do you have a scanner? can you send me a file or a photo or something? I'd love to blog about it!
21:24:02 milkymama I can
21:24:05 hathor thanks karmamomma I wish I could be more help, been there and it sucks!
21:24:23 hathor Good night yall!
21:24:26 hathor Love,
21:24:31 karma_momma good night!
21:24:37 JustMoza good night!
21:24:38 hathor hathor :D

 

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