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21:12:47 |
Webmama_Tina |
tonite we are very excited to have the
good dr jay again! |
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21:12:54 |
sienna1 |
? |
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21:12:56 |
BrianaBlueEyes |
hello ladies |
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21:12:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
here's the dr's blurb from mothering: |
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21:12:59 |
aembrescia |
? |
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21:13:04 |
my2boys00-03 |
? |
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21:13:08 |
Webmama_Tina |
In the middle of his residency training,
pediatrician Jay Gordon took an unusual
step. Deciding that he needed greater
knowledge about nutrition, vitamins, and
alternative medicine in order to
practice medicine the way he wanted to,
Dr. Gordon took a Senior Fellowship in
Pediatric Nutrition at Sloan-Kettering
Institute in New York City. After his
residency at Children's Hospital of Los
Angeles, Dr. Gordon joined the teaching
attending faculty at UCLA Medical Center
and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.
Intensely interested in infant nutrition
and breastfeeding, Dr. Gordon is the
first male physician to sit for and pass
the International Board of Lactation
Certification Exam. He has served on the
Professional Advisory Board of La Leche
League for twenty years. Dr. Gordon
treats patients at Santa Monica,
California. |
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21:13:11 |
amyirony |
? |
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21:13:37 |
Jay Gordon |
Yes, I recognize myself there |
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21:13:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
anythign you'd like to add to that dr? |
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21:14:04 |
Jay Gordon |
Soccer player, proud father and husband |
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21:14:08 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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21:14:13 |
my2boys00-03 |
:) |
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21:14:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
okey dokey, rains got in line about a
half hour ago, one of the first to enter
the room...so lets start with her! :) |
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21:14:39 |
BrianaBlueEyes |
:) |
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21:14:50 |
ElijahsMommy |
? |
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21:15:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
rainsmom, you ready mama? |
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21:15:32 |
rainsmom |
Hi...every 2-6 wks, my 6yo dd gets high
fever, 101-106! no other symptoms,
lasts for 1-4days. is this normal?
should I test her for something
specific. she isnt vaxed |
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21:15:39 |
Webmama_Tina |
ah ha |
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21:15:55 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: rainsmom ... upcoming
chatters: sienna1, aembrescia,
my2boys00-03, amyirony, ElijahsMommy |
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21:16:12 |
Jay Gordon |
There is a \recurrent fever syndrome\"
which I've seen twice. Benign. But .
. ." |
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21:16:32 |
Jay Gordon |
This is almost always just a set of
viruses rotating through the classroom
and community |
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21:16:53 |
Jay Gordon |
How long? |
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21:17:01 |
Jay Gordon |
Has she been having these fevers? |
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21:17:09 |
rainsmom |
how long its been going on.......a year |
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21:17:21 |
Jay Gordon |
BTW, vaccination has nothing to do with
this. Docs, of course, try to frighten
you |
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21:17:42 |
Jay Gordon |
Everything else OK> Have a doc you
trust? |
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21:17:47 |
rainsmom |
She ISNT vaxed....otherwise I would be
worried. but 106 is high! |
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21:18:10 |
rainsmom |
not really.....a naturopath, but he is
moving away. I do have a ped, but he's
not you |
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21:18:31 |
Jay Gordon |
Ear thermometer? Not very accurate.
But, she does need an eval if you have a
ped you trust |
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21:18:58 |
rainsmom |
no ear, oral thermometer. should I ask
for specific tests? |
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21:19:18 |
Jay Gordon |
if she's healthy in all other ways,
there's not much to worry about. Still,
monthly very high fevers should be
looked into |
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21:19:43 |
Jay Gordon |
Screening panel: CBC, sed rate, and
maybe a viral panel |
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21:19:48 |
rainsmom |
even tho i nursed for 3yrs, i worry
about her immune system. |
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21:20:07 |
Jay Gordon |
worth the trouble but still almost
definitely coincidence and nothing
ominous |
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21:20:43 |
Jay Gordon |
worth the tests for peace of mind, too |
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21:21:00 |
rainsmom |
thanks doc! that helps! should I let
fever run its course......i do warm
sponge baths and tylenol if body aches |
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21:21:23 |
Jay Gordon |
Again, there is a rare (benign)
recurrent fever syndrome which people
treat with prednisone (what else?!) |
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21:21:56 |
Jay Gordon |
a temp that high is usually too
uncomfortable to go untreated: baths,
belladona, ferum phos and Tyl if you
need it |
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21:22:17 |
rainsmom |
yikes! prednisone? ill be looking for
something on the natural spectrum |
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21:22:30 |
rainsmom |
have been doing belladonna as well |
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21:22:36 |
my2boys00-03 |
? |
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21:22:39 |
Jay Gordon |
of course--and, the PRD doesn't really
change much |
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21:22:52 |
rainsmom |
thank you doc! |
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21:23:06 |
Jay Gordon |
welcome |
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21:23:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
sienna, you'er up |
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21:23:16 |
sienna1 |
My dd is almost 9 months old, pretty
much ebf, has about 2-3 tblsps of food
daily. We cosleep. DD is tired and
needs to go to bed at 7 or so, but can't
stay asleep without being in our bed
with me...same with nap time. How can i
help her get the sleep |
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21:23:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: sienna1 ... upcoming
chatters: aembrescia, my2boys00-03,
amyirony, ElijahsMommy |
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21:23:43 |
sienna1 |
she needs when i can't sleep with
her...i feel terrible just letting her
collapse from exhaustion |
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21:23:53 |
Jay Gordon |
Fevers, as you've alluded to, help fight
an illness. But, 104+ usually stops a
child from eating, drinking sleeping.
Plus, it's impossible to evaluate a
child that hot |
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21:24:22 |
sienna1 |
i feel like she needs to have some sleep
routine....otherwise she gets very
overtired and miserable. |
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21:24:24 |
Jay Gordon |
Umm . . . I recommend doing exactly
what you're doing |
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21:24:35 |
Jay Gordon |
Yes, a routine is a great idea: |
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21:24:44 |
Jay Gordon |
Song, bath, book, nurse |
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21:24:55 |
Jay Gordon |
shorter than you might be doing right
now |
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21:25:25 |
Jay Gordon |
I like routines but I'm not a fan of
scheduled sleep |
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21:25:36 |
Jay Gordon |
and cosleeping a FAR superior to
anything else |
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21:25:38 |
sienna1 |
the thing is i have another child and i
can't lay with her at 7 pm |
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21:25:43 |
Jay Gordon |
and MUCH safer |
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21:25:44 |
sienna1 |
all night |
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21:25:45 |
pawprint |
? |
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21:25:49 |
Jay Gordon |
aaaah |
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21:25:52 |
Jay Gordon |
Dad? |
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21:26:05 |
bruingrad |
? |
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21:26:08 |
Jay Gordon |
Read w older child while lying w
younger? |
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21:26:33 |
sienna1 |
okay...i guess the question is ...is it
harmful for her to be sort of
chronically overtired |
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21:26:37 |
Jay Gordon |
try starting a routine at the right time
each night |
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21:26:58 |
sienna1 |
we do have a routine, and she goes down
beautifully, but wakes after 25 mins or
so |
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21:27:10 |
Jay Gordon |
No, babies and toddlers are for the most
part \good animals\" They get all the
sleep, calories and activity they need
if we let them" |
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21:27:10 |
sienna1 |
and can't get resettled without me
staying with her. |
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21:27:17 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: sienna1 ... upcoming
chatters: aembrescia, my2boys00-03,
amyirony, ElijahsMommy, pawprint,
bruingrad |
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21:27:36 |
sienna1 |
okay...so if i just get her up and try
again later...i'm not going to do her
harm. |
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21:27:43 |
sienna1 |
she will make sure she gets the sleep
she needs? |
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21:27:48 |
sienna1 |
naps too? |
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21:27:58 |
Jay Gordon |
Have a look at my sleep modification
program on my site. Actually, I like
what you're doing better than what I
recommend, but you may have to change
what you're doing for the sake of the
family |
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21:28:08 |
Jay Gordon |
No, no harm |
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21:28:42 |
sienna1 |
great. thanks. i did some research
recently into the fact that different
cultures (japan for instance) have very
different expectations...very un
\wisebluth\"" |
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21:28:54 |
Jay Gordon |
FoolishBluth |
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21:29:15 |
Jay Gordon |
I like his book least of all of the pop
sleep books. Get McKenna! |
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21:29:16 |
sienna1 |
and i realized that sleep needs, if they
were biological, would be the same all
over the world |
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21:29:17 |
nydancer226 |
? |
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21:29:24 |
Jay Gordon |
Yes |
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21:29:38 |
sienna1 |
and i wanted to hit myself in the head
with that book!!!1 |
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21:29:41 |
sienna1 |
duh!!! |
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21:30:07 |
sienna1 |
does your site have nap tips too? |
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21:30:21 |
Jay Gordon |
Yes, but it's tricky |
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21:30:26 |
sienna1 |
will get mckenna. |
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21:30:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: sienna1 ... upcoming
chatters: aembrescia, my2boys00-03,
amyirony, ElijahsMommy, pawprint,
bruingrad, nydancer226 |
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21:30:33 |
Jay Gordon |
Parenting is tricky . . . |
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21:30:49 |
Jay Gordon |
and sleep is usually the toughest
dilemma of them all |
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21:31:02 |
sienna1 |
dunno, breastfeeding was pretty tricky
to learn!! |
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21:31:06 |
Jay Gordon |
and the reason people have trouble
finding the answer is that there's no
answer for everyone |
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21:31:15 |
sienna1 |
thanks very much for your help. |
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21:31:28 |
Webmama_Tina |
aembrescia, you're next! :) |
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21:31:31 |
aembrescia |
i have an 8.5 month old boy-breastfed,
cosleeper, worn in a sling 20 lbs who
has no interest in crawling. loves to
stand up and walk around holding on to
my hands. when we put him on his hands
and knees he generally collapses onto
his belly complaining |
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21:31:42 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: aembrescia ...
upcoming chatters: my2boys00-03,
amyirony, ElijahsMommy, pawprint,
bruingrad, nydancer226 |
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21:31:46 |
Jay Gordon |
welcome! Please remember, no one knows
what your kids need better than you do |
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21:31:58 |
Jay Gordon |
Normal |
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21:32:07 |
Jay Gordon |
Some kids never crawl one bit |
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21:32:11 |
aembrescia |
what is your opinion on this? i have
heard that non crawlers could be more
apt to be dyslexic, dyspraxic etc... |
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21:32:13 |
Jay Gordon |
and they're not all dyslexic! |
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21:32:16 |
Jay Gordon |
or damged |
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21:32:20 |
Jay Gordon |
damaged |
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21:32:35 |
Jay Gordon |
(our answers crossed!) |
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21:32:46 |
aembrescia |
so not to worry if i give him the
opportunity? |
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21:33:08 |
Jay Gordon |
absolutely nothing to worry about |
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21:33:39 |
Jay Gordon |
the overasll picture is much more
important: evolving pincer grasp,
babbling, attentive to your language,
smiling and laughing |
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21:33:47 |
Jay Gordon |
and pointing by about 10-12 months |
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21:34:14 |
aembrescia |
and i have another almost 4 year old who
also coslept until about 2.5- he still
comes into our room 5 nites a week- any
suggestions for this? baby has all of
the other stuff... |
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21:34:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
aembrescia ... upcoming chatters:
my2boys00-03, amyirony, ElijahsMommy,
pawprint, bruingrad, nydancer226 |
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21:34:46 |
Jay Gordon |
March him back and \pay him\" w a little
extra time in the park, reading and so
on" |
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21:35:02 |
Jay Gordon |
I don't agree w the books that say kids
are \punished by rewards\"" |
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21:35:22 |
aembrescia |
oh we do all this and he still pays many
visits. he gets lts of treats if he
stays in his room |
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21:35:26 |
Jay Gordon |
I think--within reason--they are
rewarded by rewards. Real life |
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21:36:03 |
Jay Gordon |
The behavior changes take weeks to
months and you could also try sleeping
on his floor for a little while, moving
away slowly and so on |
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21:36:18 |
JRP |
I've never chatted before so I apologize
in advance for any bad manners. Do you
just jump in? |
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21:37:00 |
Jay Gordon |
He just needs to know that the family
will work better and therefore he'll do
better if he stays in his own room until
sunrise . . . or so |
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21:37:03 |
aembrescia |
sometimes he says he doesn't care about
the treat- he'd rather sleep in bed with
us. he's VERY smart and very
affectionate- just a bit crowded with
the baby and he now wakes up the baby
who still wakes me pu 4x a nite |
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21:37:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
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21:37:19 |
Webmama_Tina |
aembrescia ... upcoming chatters:
my2boys00-03, amyirony, ElijahsMommy,
pawprint, bruingrad, nydancer226 |
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21:37:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
woops cut off the first part |
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21:37:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: aembrescia ... upcoming
chatters: my2boys00-03, amyirony,
ElijahsMommy, pawprint, bruingrad,
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21:37:40 |
Jay Gordon |
march him back anyway and offer to stay
a little while if he agress to stay
after you've left. Make deals |
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21:37:46 |
Jay Gordon |
firmly--best you can |
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21:37:52 |
Jay Gordon |
toughest of all issues |
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21:38:24 |
aembrescia |
okay- thanks for the advice- i just
figure let all get as much sleep as
possible no matter where anyone ends up! |
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21:38:49 |
Jay Gordon |
THAT might be the best answer of all |
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21:39:00 |
Jay Gordon |
throw away other people's ruleboks about
your family |
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21:39:02 |
Jay Gordon |
and their sleep |
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21:39:16 |
Jay Gordon |
heaven knows most people want you to
follow their rules |
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21:39:20 |
Jay Gordon |
(I do . . .) |
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21:39:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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21:39:44 |
mrsdouglas5 |
? |
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21:39:54 |
Jay Gordon |
:/ |
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21:40:01 |
aembrescia |
did that (threw away conventional rules)
with the first kid and ended up with
intellegent delightful boy |
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21:40:05 |
ElijahsMommy |
lol |
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21:40:09 |
Jay Gordon |
Pudding |
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21:40:11 |
Jay Gordon |
Proof |
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21:40:28 |
Webmama_Tina |
my2 is next |
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21:40:33 |
my2boys00-03 |
hi, i have a 3.5yr ds he has a bleeding
problem he doesnt clot properly,in the
past 4-5mnths he has started with really
bad nose bleeds it gushes and it takes
any where from 45-1hour to clot,they
want to cautherdize his nose,my problem
is my older ds had |
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21:41:00 |
JRP |
? |
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21:41:01 |
Jay Gordon |
Known clotting disorder or a serious
picker? |
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21:41:08 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: my2boys00-03 ...
upcoming chatters: amyirony,
ElijahsMommy, pawprint, bruingrad,
nydancer226, mrsdouglas5, JRP |
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21:41:12 |
my2boys00-03 |
the same problem only he doesnt have the
clotting disorder so i am wondering do i
hold off and keep doing what i am now
and hope he outgrows it like older ds or
get it done |
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21:41:21 |
my2boys00-03 |
know clotting disorder |
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21:41:26 |
my2boys00-03 |
known* |
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21:41:29 |
Jay Gordon |
Cautery is very safe if he needs it |
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21:41:40 |
my2boys00-03 |
it takes him a lil over 2 mins to clot
from a pin stick |
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21:42:03 |
Jay Gordon |
is the clotting disorder diagnosed and
treated? |
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21:42:03 |
my2boys00-03 |
ok so would you suggest it or try and
wait it out |
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21:42:31 |
Jay Gordon |
Nose bleeds like you're describing are
scary to kids. I'd just cauterize |
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21:42:36 |
my2boys00-03 |
it was dig yes but as far as treating
there isnt one,just to use a turnaqic if
needed and if serious take him in to er
to get a shot |
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21:42:57 |
my2boys00-03 |
last nite it was very very bad i woke up
in a pool of blood and he was covered in
blood |
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21:43:21 |
Jay Gordon |
maybe you need a second opinion--which
dz is it? |
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21:43:34 |
my2boys00-03 |
ok and i have 1more question if you dont
mind |
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21:43:56 |
my2boys00-03 |
well i had 2pedi dz him with the
clotting disorder 1pedi said yes to the
cauth and the ent said we can wait it
out |
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21:44:26 |
Jay Gordon |
need to know exactly what he has and
whether or not there's treatment--you
deserve great answers |
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21:44:28 |
my2boys00-03 |
if the bleeding continues badly then
we'll go for it |
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21:44:48 |
my2boys00-03 |
its hmyofileac sorry i cant spell it |
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21:44:49 |
Jay Gordon |
OK |
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21:45:05 |
my2boys00-03 |
he doesnt clot it takes me to long to
clot |
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21:45:10 |
my2boys00-03 |
him* |
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21:45:38 |
Jay Gordon |
again, 2nd opinions are usually worth
the trouble |
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21:45:59 |
my2boys00-03 |
i have gotten 2 opinions one said yes
now one said wait it out |
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21:46:21 |
my2boys00-03 |
and honestly i dont know,my older ds
outgrew it but he doesnt have the
clotting disorder |
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21:46:36 |
Jay Gordon |
one does not outgrwo true hemophelia |
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21:46:49 |
my2boys00-03 |
no not the bleeding problems but
constant nosebleeds |
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21:46:55 |
Jay Gordon |
might need a third opinion--it's a big
deal |
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21:47:10 |
my2boys00-03 |
my older ds use to get nosebleeds alot
but they werent that bad, |
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21:47:20 |
Jay Gordon |
this, btw, is generally true for any
significant childhood dz--I don't trust
just one doc's answer |
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21:47:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: my2boys00-03 ...
upcoming chatters: amyirony,
ElijahsMommy, pawprint, bruingrad,
nydancer226, mrsdouglas5, JRP |
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21:47:35 |
my2boys00-03 |
and he outgrew the nosebleeds but i am
very concerned i also heard to
cautherzie the nose is very painful |
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21:48:29 |
Jay Gordon |
They can anesthetiz the area |
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21:48:31 |
my2boys00-03 |
and i dont want to put him thru
something that might traumatize him if
we can just hang on and he outgrow the
nosebleeds |
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21:48:57 |
my2boys00-03 |
ok so should i go to another pedi or
another ent |
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21:49:14 |
Jay Gordon |
neither! |
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21:49:18 |
Jay Gordon |
hematologist |
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21:49:30 |
my2boys00-03 |
ok,thank you very much |
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21:49:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
amy, you're up! |
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21:49:37 |
amyirony |
do you have an opinion on night nursing
and dental caries? 2.5 yo dd showed
decay at 18 mo, and dentist says it's
night-nursing and would like me to night
wean. I've seen conflicting info on it. |
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21:49:39 |
Jay Gordon |
welcome |
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21:49:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: amyirony ... upcoming
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21:49:57 |
Jay Gordon |
There is really no conflicting data: |
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21:50:06 |
Jay Gordon |
Human milk does NOT rot human teeth! |
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21:50:28 |
Webmama_Tina |
*applause* |
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21:50:42 |
Jay Gordon |
But, sweet potatoes, apple sauce or
raisins PLUS breat milk can produce
cavities. |
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21:50:45 |
spookygirl |
:heart: :heart: |
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21:50:46 |
amyirony |
I read somewhere recently that that is
true until other food is introduced.
Then it's a new ballgame. |
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21:50:56 |
Jay Gordon |
Read Dr Palmer's site. It's superb |
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21:51:10 |
Jay Gordon |
amy, exactly |
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21:51:23 |
Jay Gordon |
teeth need a pretty good cleaning before
bed for night nursers |
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21:51:30 |
amyirony |
Yes, actually I had been letting her eat
a TON of raisins right before that first
visit. I stopped immediately and it
seemed to slow dramatically after that. |
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21:51:46 |
Jay Gordon |
but, as bad as cavities might be, advice
to wean is . . . misguided |
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21:51:54 |
Jay Gordon |
good work |
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21:51:57 |
amyirony |
what is Dr. Palmer's site? |
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21:52:08 |
Jay Gordon |
I love raisins. But they're bad for my
teeth |
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21:52:43 |
Jay Gordon |
http://www.brianpalmerdds.com/caries.htm |
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21:52:46 |
jessjgh1 |
http://www.brianpalmerdds.com/ I think
(I need to pass that site on to my best
friend a pro-breastfeeding pedi, because
she believes her dentist) (sorry for
interruptions) |
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21:53:13 |
amyirony |
She's had at least 10 fillings and one
tooth is just a stub now. But the
dentist says her hygiene now is
excellent, no plaque. |
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21:53:20 |
amyirony |
I will check out the site, thank you. |
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21:53:30 |
Jay Gordon |
welcome |
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21:53:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
elijahsmommy, you're up! |
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21:53:49 |
ElijahsMommy |
I have a 2 year old ds who has eczema
and many other food allergies such as
(peanuts, oats, soy, mushrooms) that
didn’t really seem to come ahead until
after he turned 2. Although I feel like
I am on a great start with starting him
on supplements (Vitamin |
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21:53:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: ElijahsMommy ...
upcoming chatters: pawprint, bruingrad,
nydancer226, mrsdouglas5, JRP |
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21:53:52 |
Jay Gordon |
also, dentists would really like to see
kids between ages one and two and I
agree |
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21:54:01 |
ElijahsMommy |
C, Cal/Mag, Fish Oil, Zinc) stopping his
dairy intake, and watching what he eats,
I wanted to know if there is any more
advice you could give as far as
supplements, certain foods he
should/should not eat, or what more I
could do with a child that has eczem |
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21:54:30 |
Jay Gordon |
Dairy (dairy, dairy and . . . dairy!)
eggs, peanuts, wheat (gluten) |
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21:54:39 |
Jay Gordon |
for some kids soy's a problem |
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21:54:50 |
Jay Gordon |
I love your lists of supplements |
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21:55:10 |
ElijahsMommy |
s eczema strictly related to food
allergies? |
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21:55:23 |
Jay Gordon |
You're doing everyting right--he'll
outgrow most of this |
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21:55:39 |
Jay Gordon |
no, but at this age it's mostly food |
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21:55:47 |
ElijahsMommy |
ok |
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21:55:51 |
Jay Gordon |
might be fabric or chemicals or animals |
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21:56:05 |
ElijahsMommy |
So those can be factors? |
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21:56:41 |
Jay Gordon |
Yes, internal and external triggers can
cause those rashes |
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21:56:54 |
Jay Gordon |
homeopathy works for some kids too |
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21:57:00 |
ElijahsMommy |
I have been watching what he eats...been
doing lots of veggies and fruits...some
meats and lots of rice products but he
still breaks out |
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21:57:13 |
Jay Gordon |
but food avoidance for child and BF mom,
is the key |
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21:58:12 |
Webmama_Tina |
we're almost out of time, dr do you have
time to answer the last questions in the
queue or do you need to go? |
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21:58:14 |
ElijahsMommy |
One more question, I am thinking of not
vacc anymore, what is your advice as far
as supplements to keep up immune system
if I don’t vacc? |
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21:58:54 |
Jay Gordon |
Supplements are great but his immune
system might actually do better if you
interrupt vaccines |
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21:59:03 |
Jay Gordon |
(This is not a popular opinion) |
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21:59:30 |
ElijahsMommy |
interrupt meaning no more vacc or wait
til much older? |
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21:59:30 |
Jay Gordon |
I can't prove it, but I thinks kids with
fewer and later vaccines stay healthier |
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21:59:44 |
Jay Gordon |
With his issues, I'd stop altogetheer |
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21:59:55 |
ElijahsMommy |
THANK YOU SO MUCH |
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22:00:02 |
Jay Gordon |
welcome! |
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22:00:03 |
ElijahsMommy |
so the supp he is on is good so far? |
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22:00:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
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22:00:17 |
ElijahsMommy |
one more question what about Vitamin B |
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22:00:18 |
Jay Gordon |
your instincts are good and, again,
often better than your doc's |
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22:01:54 |
Jay Gordon |
I have to go in about six minutes |
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22:01:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
dr do you have time to answer the rest
of the questions in the queue or do you
need to go? |
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22:02:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok that answered that |
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22:02:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
pawprint is next |
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22:02:16 |
Webmama_Tina |
lets see how far we can get in 6min :) |
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22:02:23 |
Jay Gordon |
I'll answer fast! |
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22:02:32 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol |
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22:03:22 |
Jay Gordon |
You know, I love my own ideas, but I
have yet to figure out why more peds are
not more flexible about the way you want
to raise your children |
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22:03:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
pawprint, ya there? |
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22:03:44 |
pawprint |
I have two boys- both born 'early' at 35
and 34 weeks. One a c/s for breech, one
an induced med free VBAC. Both PROM.
(Who knows why?) |
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22:03:46 |
Jay Gordon |
Vaccines, antibx, long BF, vegetarian
families |
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22:03:59 |
Jay Gordon |
OK, paw |
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22:04:05 |
pawprint |
Both of average weight, and healthy as
can be. |
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22:04:32 |
pawprint |
That said- I'm gunshy about #3. Treat
these babies as full term? |
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22:04:48 |
Jay Gordon |
No |
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22:04:54 |
Webmama_Tina |
current chatter: pawprint ... upcoming
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mrsdouglas5, JRP |
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22:04:58 |
Jay Gordon |
\Near term\" babies are differenrt" |
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22:04:58 |
pawprint |
ANd PROM- nutritional deficinecy? |
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22:05:16 |
Jay Gordon |
no . . . I didn't know that's what you
meant |
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22:05:41 |
pawprint |
The midwives were of the mindset that I
'cook em' fast. |
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22:05:44 |
Jay Gordon |
Eat great, stay in shape (!!) and more,
but you did nothing wrong leading to the
preterm deliveries |
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22:06:14 |
pawprint |
The first was a very unhealthy mama- the
second was a Bradley baby. |
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22:06:15 |
Jay Gordon |
nope--you just deliver early--they're
not fully cooked but certainly just fine
for being out here with us |
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22:06:28 |
pawprint |
Excellent. Thank you. :) |
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22:06:35 |
Jay Gordon |
welcome |
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22:07:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok bruingrad |
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22:07:33 |
bruingrad |
I have a 4.5 yo who has serious BM
withholding issues. Didn't potty until
3.5 because we child-led. For a while
after peeing in potty only BM in a
pullup - not nighttrained, sleeps in
PU. FINALLY BM in potty for about a
month, but after some discomfort, |
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22:07:45 |
bruingrad |
withholidng again |
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22:07:45 |
Webmama_Tina |
one min left i think? this will be the
last one then, i'm sorry mamas! |
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22:07:49 |
Jay Gordon |
no dairy please! |
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22:07:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
dr jay, i'm sure will be with us again
though |
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22:07:52 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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22:07:57 |
Jay Gordon |
no pressure and no dairy |
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22:08:07 |
bruingrad |
Any ideas? She's on miralax.. only 3/4
tsp down from 2 at the highest |
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22:08:10 |
Jay Gordon |
and you may need to tolerate regression
occasionally |
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22:08:18 |
bruingrad |
dairy? |
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22:08:26 |
Jay Gordon |
MIralax is OK, but senna and cascara
sagrada work too |
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22:08:30 |
Jay Gordon |
and prune juice |
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22:08:41 |
Jay Gordon |
dairy products constipation |
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22:08:44 |
bruingrad |
She says she's scared of pain -- even
though it's been really soft for ages. |
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22:08:53 |
Jay Gordon |
no \might\" or maybe\"" |
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22:08:57 |
Jay Gordon |
they cause it |
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22:09:01 |
bruingrad |
Only reason is an issue is she's
probably starting K in the fall |
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22:09:17 |
Jay Gordon |
yes, and now you're doing a great job
obliterating the memories by keeping
stool soft and comfortable |
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22:09:23 |
bruingrad |
I know what Senna is.. what is cascara
sagrada? |
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22:10:17 |
bruingrad |
I'm concerned because she withholds
until she can't anymore and then it
sneaks out a little during the day
sometimes (mostly goes in her pullup
after sleep this last week). I'd hate
that to happen to her in Kindergarten! |
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22:10:54 |
Jay Gordon |
another herb you can find in most HF
stores |
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22:11:09 |
Jay Gordon |
That's why tyou need to do everything
now |
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22:11:19 |
Jay Gordon |
dairy, herbs, hydration, |
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22:11:31 |
Jay Gordon |
OK, have to run! |
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22:11:33 |
bruingrad |
We've been at this for a year or more.
I'll work on the dairy..she loves milk
and yogurt for sure |
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22:11:36 |
bruingrad |
Thanks! |
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22:11:37 |
Jay Gordon |
Thank you very much for inviting me |
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22:11:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
thank you SOOO much dr! |
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22:11:41 |
jessjgh1 |
Thanks!!! |
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22:11:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
this has been another great chat! |
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22:11:49 |
Jay Gordon |
Bruin, no milk please!! |
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22:11:53 |
Jay Gordon |
Thank you all |
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22:11:56 |
Jay Gordon |
XOX |
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22:12:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'll get working on the transcripts when
i have a spare moment (which is hard to
find, but i'll find it!) |
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22:12:11 |
jessjgh1 |
Thanks Tina! |
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22:13:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
sure thing! :) |
