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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Randall Neustaedter OMD -- Dr. Randall Neustaedter has practiced holistic medicine for more than thirty years in the San Francisco Bay area, specializing in child health care. He is a licensed acupuncturist and Doctor of Oriental Medicine, as well as education director of the Holistic Pediatric association www.hpakids.org, author of Child Health Guide and The Vaccine Guide, and father of five children. Visit his website, www.cure-guide.com to register for a free newsletter with pediatric updates.

Chat topic: Vaccinations: The Controversies and Dilemmas. Questions on vaccines, challenging the underlying theory of vaccination and the advisability of the vaccine strategy, providing parents the option of a truly informed decision given the potential toxicity and risks and benefits of vaccines.

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4/19/06

28 mamas  & 1 dad in attendance

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12:05:08 Webmama_Tina ok dr, lets assume we have some newbies here that don't yet know  who you are...how about ya introduce yourself and tell us about your background and expertise? :)
12:05:34 RandallNeustaedter The bio you sent tells most of it.
12:05:48 RandallNeustaedter Other info is on my website at www.cure-guide.com
12:06:05 RandallNeustaedter And all the info we discuss today is in my book The Vaccine Guide.
12:06:25 RandallNeustaedter You can order that online or through any local bookstore.
12:07:05 Webmama_Tina :)
12:07:08 Webmama_Tina that's true, lol
12:07:10 RandallNeustaedter My expertise, such as it is, centers on homeopathy, Chinese medicine pediatrics, and holistic pediatrics.
12:07:35 RandallNeustaedter Plus lots of data and a holistic perspective on vaccination.
12:07:42 RandallNeustaedter So pick my brain now as you will.
12:07:52 Webmama_Tina ok mamas, angie is our queuekeeper today...y'all can start throwing out your question marks and she'll gather the list
12:07:56 Webmama_Tina you ready angie?
12:07:57 Connie ?
12:08:02 jjuulliieett ?
12:08:14 Webmama_Tina connie, you're first! go for it
12:08:34 Connie first time mom @ 37, if I waiat to vaccinate or don't how do I protect newborn in public places?
12:09:03 alvie ?
12:09:14 RandallNeustaedter Your baby is protected by the antibodies she inherited from you through your blood supply.
12:09:33 DawnA ?
12:09:45 RandallNeustaedter Anything that you have been exposed to and developed antibodies against are transferred to your baby.
12:09:55 RandallNeustaedter Therefore there is nothing to worry about.
12:09:58 RandallNeustaedter Next?
12:10:06 sophiekat ?
12:10:11 jjuulliieett Dr, what do you have to say about critics of families who don't vaccinate?  I am thinking specifically of the people who claim that our unvaccinated children will bring the contagious diseases back into public health issues.  Are we really going to make
12:10:12 Webmama_Tina jjuulliieett your turn
12:10:16 Webmama_Tina ah ya beat me
12:10:17 jjuulliieett everyone else sick?
12:10:37 RandallNeustaedter This protection lasts for at least 6 months.
12:10:45 jjuulliieett I have three unvaccinated children
12:11:28 RandallNeustaedter Ah, is it your duty to sacrifice your child's health to the popular belief that vaccines are the correct means to protect against disease?
12:11:56 RandallNeustaedter Because I think all children suffer from the ill effects of vaccination whether they have drastic immediate reactions or not.
12:12:29 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  alvie  DawnA  sophiekat
12:12:32 alvie How do you feel about using 'nosodes' as an alternative for vaccination?  Especially for travelling.  Are they useful or is having a good diet just as good in keeping your immune system strong?
12:12:50 Webmama_Tina mamas, please wait to go til the doc says next""
12:12:57 alvie sorry
12:12:58 RandallNeustaedter We are trading off supposed protection against acute illnesses for some very severe chronic diseases initiated by vaccines (asthma, diabetes, and learning disorders to name a few).
12:13:02 Webmama_Tina i'm just posting the lineup so you know who's next :)
12:13:06 Webmama_Tina no worries, it happens :)
12:14:05 RandallNeustaedter Nosodes - I only use these in the case of exposure to epidemics or a known exposure (e.g. whooping cough).
12:14:08 ebferr ?
12:14:46 RandallNeustaedter I do not think it is appropriate to give children multiple homeopathic medicines that are not indicated on the basis of current symptoms in their bodies.
12:15:27 RandallNeustaedter There is a section on nosodes and homeoprophylaxis in my book The Vaccine Guide, and on my website www.cure-guide.com. Search there for alternative vaccines.
12:15:30 RandallNeustaedter Next?
12:15:41 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):    DawnA  sophiekat  ebferr
12:16:06 DawnA I have a nurse practitioner/ homeopath with many years experience.  She wants me to have a pedia. with hospital privleges as backup.  I am 4 months pregnant, first time.  Any ideas for how to find a supportive Dr? (One that won't chastise me for no vacc.
12:16:10 mfrykas ?
12:16:32 RandallNeustaedter My book and website also contain sections on keeping your unvaccinated child's immune system strong and vital.
12:18:19 RandallNeustaedter Ask holistic practitioners in your area if they know any. Ask any mothering and attachment parenting groups. Then call around and ask them point blank if they accept children whose parents choose not to vaccinate. You can look at hpakids.org and see if there is a holistic pediatrician within earshot of you as well.
12:18:34 RandallNeustaedter Next?
12:18:37 sophiekat where have you found your evidence regarding these severe chronic diseases initiated by vaccines"?"
12:18:53 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  sophiekat ebferr  mfrykas
12:19:48 RandallNeustaedter My book contains 40 pages of references. There are separate sections on asthma, diabetes, and autism. The research is out there and available to you.
12:20:19 sophiekat :)
12:20:21 RandallNeustaedter The latest study on asthma and vaccines as well as others can be found on the hpakids.org website.
12:21:06 RandallNeustaedter You can also listen to the radio shows archived on that site where we interview Barbara Loe Fisher of NVIC about their study linking allergies and asthma to vaccines.
12:21:23 Webmama_Tina we had a chat with barb awhile back too
12:21:29 RandallNeustaedter Just go to hpakids.org and click through the radio show connections.
12:21:32 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:21:35 ebferr I have not vaccinated my 5 month old but many have recommended taht i get him the tetanus vaccine.  I have read your books and wondered what yo thought of getting the tetanus vaccine.  Also,is is ok to supplement with raw milk formula at 6 months?
12:21:35 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  ebferr mfrykas
12:22:07 Webmama_Tina transcripts here: http://mommychats.com/mothering/barbloefisher.htm
12:22:12 RandallNeustaedter Yes you can give the raw milk formula to newborns.
12:22:53 RandallNeustaedter The formula, though difficult to make, can be found in my book Child Health Guide and on the westonaprice.org website in the child health section.
12:23:27 RandallNeustaedter About tetanus. This is your choice of course. There is no tetanus vaccine alone that does not contain mercury, so that is a concern.
12:23:56 RandallNeustaedter The other option is to wait and use the tetanus immune globulin at the ER for a serious tetanus prone injury.
12:24:15 RandallNeustaedter This has more to do with your comfort level and anxiety level than anything else.
12:24:41 alvie ?
12:24:43 RandallNeustaedter Tetanus is a very difficult disease to contract. That is why there are only about 4 cases a year in children.
12:24:47 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:24:48 Connie ?
12:25:00 ebferr thank you!
12:25:12 mfrykas My husband is a health care worker and requires up to date vaccinations for his job as he can be exposed to various things.  Currently our 7 mo old is unvaccinated but hubby is really concerned about exposing our child to unwanted viruses, bacteria, etc.
12:25:22 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  mfrykas  alvie  Connie
12:25:32 RandallNeustaedter So what is your question?
12:25:45 RandallNeustaedter How to deal with your husband?
12:25:47 mfrykas How likely is it that he will bring something home and our child will become ill??
12:25:58 RandallNeustaedter Zero likelihood.
12:26:09 mfrykas And what can we do to prevent it?? (sorry computer difficulties)
12:26:51 carene70 I am sorry if I am butting in or asking a question that has already been asked, couldn't find the right room! But, my question is, do you doctor feel that any of the recommended vaccines are must haves" and if so, at what age?"
12:26:52 RandallNeustaedter Keep your child's immune system strong with breastfeeding and supplements of fish oil.
12:27:33 RandallNeustaedter None of my 5 children are vaccinated, so I don't feel personally that any are beneficial to them.
12:27:40 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:27:43 mfrykas Thanks!
12:27:47 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  alvie Connie  carene70
12:27:49 Webmama_Tina i'm glad you made it,  carene70 ...we are taking turns....
12:27:53 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
12:28:20 alvie If a child does contract  vpd, is it very important to treat them naturally or is it still important to seek conventional treatment.  I have heard that leaving the fever to run its course, and dosing with Vit C in large doses are beneficial to healing.
12:28:50 sophiekat ?
12:29:26 alvie (an unvaccinated child)
12:29:44 carene70 ?
12:29:46 RandallNeustaedter I do not believe in the term vpd (vaccine preventable diseases).
12:30:14 RandallNeustaedter The treatment for childhood illnesses depends on the disease and its severity or potential for complications.
12:30:21 alvie yes, come to think of it, neither do I!
12:30:41 RandallNeustaedter Obviously you don't need antiviral drugs to treat chickenpox.
12:30:54 RandallNeustaedter But you do need to hospitalize a child with meningitis.
12:30:56 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:31:04 Connie Do you recommend any basic maintainence baby vitamin?,   ....am breast feeding and eating like a horse myself.  Oh I see you just told someone fish oil. ....supplementing with a multi vicapsule, calcium, refrigerated omega 3 and ambertose for immune system
12:31:27 RandallNeustaedter Those are all great.
12:31:47 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s): Connie carene70  sophiekat  MOD_Angie
12:32:03 Connie thank you I am paranoid with my first and only baby at this age
12:32:23 RandallNeustaedter I am a firm believer in all children getting ADEQUATE amounts of omega 3 fats through breastmilk as infants and through a supplement once they are eating solids and nursing less.
12:32:38 ebferr ?
12:32:48 Connie what form of baby supplements?
12:32:59 RandallNeustaedter I do not give babies multi vits. I only use them for children with inadequate diets.
12:33:16 Connie sorry what form of omega 3 supplements? for babies
12:33:57 RandallNeustaedter I will give children colostrum, zinc, mushrooms, astragalus, and other herbal formulas for immune function.
12:34:23 Connie will your book say where to find these? basic health food store?
12:34:24 RandallNeustaedter We are getting a bit off topic. All of this immune info is in both of my books and all over the two websites.
12:34:27 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:34:31 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  carene70 sophiekat MOD_Angie  ebferr
12:35:04 Webmama_Tina remember we are discussing vaccinations today :)
12:35:11 Webmama_Tina (for teh mamas)
12:35:16 Webmama_Tina i'll repost our topic...
12:35:24 carene70 HI, I have three children, the first was fully vaxed, second selectively, and third not yet (11mo), my husband would like to not continue vaccinating at all. My question is, Are there any vaxes you feel are must haves" and if so, at what age should they b"
12:35:31 Webmama_Tina Vaccinations: The Controversies and Dilemmas with Randall Neustaedter, OMD  Thursday, April 19th at 10 AM Pacific, 11 AM Mountain, 12 PM Central, and 1 PM Eastern. Dr. Neustaedter will field all questions on vaccines, challenging the underlying theory of vaccination and the advisability of the vaccine strategy, providing parents the option of a truly informed decision given the potential toxicity and risks and benefits of vaccines. Questions may involve specific diseases and their vaccines and alternative strategies. Dr. Neustaedter will provide a holistic perspective on disease prevention as he does in his book The Vaccine Guide: Risks and Benefits for Children and Adults.
12:36:19 RandallNeustaedter As I said none of my 5 kids have received any vaccines. This is about your comfort level and personal philosophy of health care.
12:36:26 RandallNeustaedter next:
12:36:29 sophiekat do you believe in the underlying theory of vaccines?
12:36:40 RandallNeustaedter Big question.
12:37:04 sophiekat big topic :)
12:37:07 RandallNeustaedter I do not believe that vaccination is the most effective preventive for our culture.
12:37:35 RandallNeustaedter For malnourished children living in poverty conditions, there are other issues at stake.
12:37:43 RandallNeustaedter Do vaccines prevent disease?
12:37:48 RandallNeustaedter Sometimes they do.
12:38:13 sophiekat so do you recommend everyone stopping all vaccinations (here in the US/Canada/Europe? )
12:38:21 RandallNeustaedter Measles has been nearly eliminated as a result of vaccination, but at what grave and devastating cost?
12:38:56 RandallNeustaedter I recommend that parents make their own informed decision based on their beliefs and lifestyle.
12:39:12 megp ?
12:39:21 RandallNeustaedter This may not be an easy decision, but it is not one that can be made for you by me or the vaccine industry.
12:39:30 carene70 ?
12:39:32 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:39:37 MOD_Angie I was diagnosed with mumps on Sunday, and I was wondering alternative strategies I can have in order for when my girls contract it if they do.......any natural remedies on how to relieve the swelling of the lymph nodes and fatigue?  I think the fatigue was the worst!
12:40:19 megp Do you think that people who chose not to vaccinate are riding on herd immunity, meaning taking advantge of all the people who do choose to vaccinate?
12:40:31 Webmama_Tina megp we're taking turns mama
12:40:39 Webmama_Tina Welcome to this week's Mothering Sponsored chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
12:41:09 RandallNeustaedter If you have a holistic practioner, then please see them to treat your symptoms. Lots of C, A, and D are very appropriate for prevention of complications and treatment.
12:41:14 Webmama_Tina we want the dr to be able to not be overrun with questions...answering one at a time. :)
12:41:45 MOD_Angie I live in a very rural area without any holistic practioner :-(
12:42:16 RandallNeustaedter Mumps is a normal childhood disease easily managed with homeopathy and other holistic methods. Lots of good info out there about this, including my book Child Health Guide and the references in it.
12:42:17 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:42:23 ebferr how much fish oil should you give a 6 month old and colutsrum to boost immune system? alos, with the epidemics of mumps and whooping cough out these days is there anything to do to protect a unvaccinated baby?
12:43:11 RandallNeustaedter Fish oil = 1 tsp per 50 lbs body weight.
12:44:02 RandallNeustaedter Colostrum = 1/2 - 1 tspn powdered
12:44:05 jjuulliieett ?
12:44:28 RandallNeustaedter We need to stop fearing acute illness in children.
12:44:59 RandallNeustaedter These childhood diseases are beneficial to immune function, and we can prevent complications with appropriate holistic care.
12:45:01 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:45:04 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):    megp  carene70  jjuulliieett
12:45:48 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:46:08 megp Do you think people who do not vaccinate are taking advantage of herd immunity, meaning riding on the backs of those who are not immunized? Measles is a serious disease, right?
12:46:28 megp Who are immunized, sorry.
12:47:01 RandallNeustaedter People can do whatever they want for their own families.
12:47:36 RandallNeustaedter Are we riding on the backs of those who fight forest fires?
12:48:04 RandallNeustaedter If everyone had a healthy, nutritious lifestyle, then we could all play leapfrog together.
12:48:05 sophiekat ?
12:48:18 megp Thanks.
12:48:41 RandallNeustaedter Measles is a normal childhood disease, and it's complications have been effectively prevented with homeopathy over the past 200 years.
12:49:05 RandallNeustaedter If everyone would adopt holistic care for their children, we would have a very healthy population.
12:49:06 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:49:10 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):  carene70  jjuulliieett   sophiekat
12:49:45 carene70 many of the diseases children are vaxed against are more serious when an adult gets them, such as Chicken pox. Should I be worried if my child brings them home, since I have never had them?
12:50:14 RandallNeustaedter Worrying is not going to get you anywhere.
12:50:36 TaterTot ?
12:51:04 RandallNeustaedter You might worry that your vaccinated child is more likely to get chicken pox as an adult when the vaccine wears off.
12:51:05 carene70 I understand that, what measures should I take to prevent any complications if my child brings home chicken pox, just follow standard immune building techniques and hope for the best.
12:51:43 RandallNeustaedter And treat chicken pox with homeopathy in adults.
12:51:44 carene70 Yes, that is why I think that particular one is stupid to give at such a young age.
12:51:52 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:51:56 jjuulliieett How effective is it to wait for a tetanus vaccine until a child has a really deep wound?  What homeopathics do you recommend in case of a deep wound in an unvaccinated child if not a mainstream vaccine?
12:53:05 RandallNeustaedter Tetanus immune globulin works within 72 hours of an injury at least as well as the tetanus toxoid shots. Homeopathic medicine have not been shown to prevent tetanus in research studies.
12:53:24 RandallNeustaedter That being said there is no reason not to give Ledum for puncture wounds.
12:53:26 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:53:30 sophiekat do you think vaccines should be phased out of use in developed countries?
12:54:18 RandallNeustaedter And we should have fuel efficient cars and solar power and no wars and ...
12:54:20 RandallNeustaedter next?
12:54:26 MOD_Angie upcoming chatter(s):    TaterTot
12:54:33 MOD_Angie lol
12:54:42 Webmama_Tina *applause*
12:54:48 Webmama_Tina ;)
12:55:43 Webmama_Tina 5min left in our chat
12:56:21 carene70 ?
12:56:21 RandallNeustaedter and no GMO and no soy formula and holistic medical schools.
12:56:34 MOD_Angie tater tot is typing her ?
12:57:02 RandallNeustaedter and organic lunches in public schools
12:57:24 MOD_Angie carene70 go ahead
12:57:26 carene70 This may have been asked before, and if so, I am sorry, got to the party late... What is the single best thing I can give my children to boost their immune system? ages 11 mo, 3, and 5.
12:57:36 MOD_Angie then tater tot can go
12:57:37 TaterTot Please explain the difference between live and not live vaccine and how my babies exposure is affected- i.e. the kid next door gets the vaccine, my child is exposed- what is the likelyhood of her getting that disease at any level based on it being live or
12:57:57 TaterTot ...Not live?
12:59:25 jjuulliieett ?
13:00:02 RandallNeustaedter You do not have to worry about exposure of your child to others. The only vaccine shed in stools is the oral polio which is not given in the US. Other inactivated live vaccines are very unlikely to spread the virus. And if they do then your child might get measles which would not be such a bad thing anyway.
13:00:26 Webmama_Tina ok mamas, after carene and tater tot's questions, we're all done for today... :)
13:00:34 Webmama_Tina the doctor will be back next month! :)
13:00:36 RandallNeustaedter The immune system question was addressed above. See the transcript, and on the websites cure-guide.com and hpakids.org
13:01:28 RandallNeustaedter I am open to topics for our future discussions.
13:02:05 TaterTot I had read that it was good to keep my child away for a week from those who received a live vacine- but thought how in the world am I to know who got what vacine when?  So you are saying it is not an issue and my baby can be around anyones's recently vacci
13:02:19 RandallNeustaedter Thanks everyone for your great questions, and your love for your children, and your attention to very high quality health care for your families.
13:02:29 TaterTot vacinated child?   Thanks for responding!
13:02:33 RandallNeustaedter Yes I would not worry about exposure.
13:02:44 alvie Thank you Dr!
13:02:55 RandallNeustaedter And don't be afraid of diseases.
13:03:10 jjuulliieett Thank you so much Dr. Neustaedter.
13:03:15 RandallNeustaedter Just have fun with your kids.
13:03:17 RandallNeustaedter Bye.
13:03:36 Webmama_Tina thankyou dr!!

 

 

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