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12:05:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok today its time again for our monthly
chat with dr randall neustaedter! |
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12:06:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
today's topic: |
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12:06:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
Attention, ADD, and Behavior Problems in
Children. Holistic pediatrics provides a
wide range of approaches and treatments
for managing attention dysfunctions as
well as behavior problems in children.
There is no need to treat children with
stimulant or antidepressant medications
with their attendant dangers. Dr.
Neustaedter will field all questions on
assessment, home management, nutritional
supplementation, school management, and
holistic treatment. |
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12:06:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
welcome dr! |
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12:06:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
lets just dive right in there today,
shall we? |
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12:07:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
mamas, who has the first question? |
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12:07:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
start throwing out those question marks,
i'll start gathering |
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12:07:13 |
RandallNeustaedter |
OK ready to go |
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12:07:14 |
merrybee |
? |
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12:07:16 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'm sure we'll see more people as time
goes on |
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12:07:21 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok merrybee, go for it |
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12:07:29 |
kmp4362 |
? |
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12:07:31 |
KiMayaMama |
? |
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12:07:46 |
merrybee |
i have a 15 yo with adhd and ptsd on
antideoressants and stimulant |
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12:07:52 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters (after merrybee):
kmp4362 , KiMayaMama |
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12:08:04 |
merrybee |
i managed to keep her off them till she
was a crime victim |
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12:08:18 |
merrybee |
with diet and extra homework help |
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12:08:23 |
merrybee |
the meds only help some |
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12:08:35 |
merrybee |
i would like to take her off where do i
start |
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12:09:28 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I assume she is getting good therapy.
That sounds important. |
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12:09:29 |
merrybee |
she refuses counseling also- will not
cooperate |
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12:09:52 |
RandallNeustaedter |
this is a serious case and it requires
trained professionals |
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12:10:10 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Homeopathy can be extremely helpful in
these situations |
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12:10:30 |
RandallNeustaedter |
She also must be supported with
supplements. |
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12:10:54 |
merrybee |
i have used homeopathy with success with
her in the past but do not know who to
go to in my new area plus cost is an
issue |
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12:11:10 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Omega-3 fats are the most important, and
lots of them in the form of a good fish
oil. |
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12:11:44 |
merrybee |
i will give them a try i have not used
them in the past but i have heard good
thing-- may be just the place to start |
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12:11:56 |
BabyLilip |
? |
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12:12:13 |
merrybee |
will they work before i take her off
meds so i can gradually switch or does
she need to come off meds for it ot
work? |
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12:12:13 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Also give her a phosphatydil serine
complex supplement which is available in
your health food store, at least 200 mg. |
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12:13:02 |
merrybee |
thanks- sounds like a good place to
start |
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12:13:26 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Do not take her off meds without more
support, though I am really concerned
for her on antidepressants because of
the potential side effects in this age
group. |
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12:13:54 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Email me off line and let's see if we
can get you more professional help.
randalln@cure-guide.com |
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12:13:56 |
merrybee |
her only side effect at this point is
not sleeping well from the stimulants |
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12:14:14 |
RandallNeustaedter |
My website and book also have
instructions on the supplements. |
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12:14:17 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Next |
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12:14:18 |
merrybee |
my 18 yo is on antidepressants for ptsd
also- |
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12:14:25 |
merrybee |
thank you so much |
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12:14:26 |
kmp4362 |
Dr, do behavioral problems (specifically
ADD/HD and related behaviors) need to
affect boys more, and if so, what are
your theories as to why? I have a VERY
high energy 3yr old son who is defiant,
impulsive, and not very socially
graceful. |
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12:14:47 |
kmp4362 |
I meant to say do they affect boys more
often? |
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12:15:05 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters: kmp4362 , KiMayaMama
, BabyLilip |
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12:15:27 |
RandallNeustaedter |
These behaviors are very yang and so of
course boys express them more in their
outgoing exuberance. |
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12:15:42 |
kmp4362 |
He has been assessed for autism
(probably not), but he seems on a one
track road to ritalin (not if I can help
it) |
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12:15:59 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I am dismayed that active, healthy, wild
boys are labeled and drugged. |
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12:16:00 |
kmp4362 |
I have great concerns about his ability
to attend mainstream schools |
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12:16:19 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Do not give your kids Ritalin. There are
very effective substitutes. |
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12:16:28 |
LindaKuzyk |
I am a grammie of a 3-yr old who is ADD
and a 5th grade teacher who has worked
with many ADD and ADHD kids. I, myself
have ADD. Is there a packet" of
information that I might gain access to
that you have created?" |
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12:16:34 |
kmp4362 |
I agree, I just struggle with his
fitting into the world (schools, public,
etc) |
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12:16:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters: kmp4362 , KiMayaMama
, BabyLilip |
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12:17:00 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I recommend you read Ritalin Free Kids
by Reichenberg-Ullman |
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12:17:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
LindaKuzyk, i'm glad you made it! we're
taking turns |
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12:17:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
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12:18:12 |
LindaKuzyk |
? |
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12:18:16 |
kmp4362 |
Thank you! Mothering this busy boy of
mine is the most challenging thing I
could ever imagine doing, but I don't
believe in drugging him unless it is
TRULY TRULY the last resort. |
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12:18:45 |
kmp4362 |
He is currently on fish oil and we
follow the Feinstein diet fairly
closely. |
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12:18:56 |
RandallNeustaedter |
This is a big subject and requires a
perspective that includes assessment,
understanding of the issues,
self-awareness for older kids,
supplementation with fats, adjustments
in the school and home environment, and
treatment at times with both homeopathy
and Chinese medicine, which are
extremely effective. |
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12:19:32 |
kmp4362 |
Do you think that these issues are
addressed in that recommended book? |
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12:19:41 |
RandallNeustaedter |
There are many good books and they are
all referenced in my book, Child Health
Guide, along with a detailed discussion
of the issues. |
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12:19:49 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:19:52 |
kmp4362 |
Thank you doctor. |
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12:20:08 |
KiMayaMama |
Is it safe for a mother to try and rid a
5 yr olds body of heavy metals. My
daughter has all the symptoms of ADHD. I
am giving her fish oils with no marked
improvement as of yet. I've done some
reading and suspect she may have too
many heavy metals in |
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12:20:09 |
jkelleycaires |
? |
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12:20:11 |
KiMayaMama |
her system |
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12:20:46 |
RandallNeustaedter |
You can give her chlorella if she will
take it, which serves that function. |
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12:20:53 |
KiMayaMama |
she was fully vaccinated up to this
point which i am close to convinced has
something to do with it |
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12:21:24 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Otherwise you would need to see a DAN
Doctor trained in assessment of heavy
metal toxicity. |
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12:21:50 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I really would recommend that you do the
kind of program I am suggesting before
you go the heavy metal route. |
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12:22:17 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters: KiMayaMama ,
BabyLilip, LindaKuzyk, jkelleycaires |
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12:22:23 |
Webmama_Tina |
sorry, had a phone call |
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12:22:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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12:22:32 |
KiMayaMama |
because it is dangerous? |
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12:22:40 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Vaccines often have a causative role in
these problems of course. But that is in
the past (hopefully) for you and just
deal wtih what you have now. |
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12:23:02 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Chelation of metals is very costly and
there are many other things to try
first. |
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12:23:04 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:23:10 |
BabyLilip |
Hi Dr. Neustaedter. I’m sorry, I know
the topic is ADD, but I was wondering if
I could ask an allergy related question
please? |
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12:23:21 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Go |
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12:23:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
upcoming chatters: BabyLilip,
LindaKuzyk, jkelleycaires |
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12:23:44 |
BabyLilip |
thanks, |
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12:24:33 |
BabyLilip |
My 17 month old son is allergic to dairy
and wheat. With dairy, he gets hives
(red skin with white bumps) when his
skin comes in contact with any dairy
product. It usually takes a few minutes
to show the symptoms. |
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12:24:36 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Just for everyone's info there are
archived radio shows on the topics of
allergies, ADD, vaccines, and many other
pediatric topics at our website
www.hpakids.org that will answer many of
your questions on these issues. |
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12:24:42 |
BabyLilip |
He has never actually eaten any dairy
products yet, not even formula. My
first question is that if this type of
reaction indicates any severe allergy
(Anaphylactic) to dairy if he actually
eats dairy? |
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12:25:32 |
RandallNeustaedter |
No anaphylactic reactions to dairy are
extremely unlikely. |
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12:25:56 |
BabyLilip |
We've seen an allergist and he wants to
do a blood test to see what are the
chances of a Anaphylactic. Do you
reccomand it too? |
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12:26:02 |
moozy21 |
? |
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12:26:20 |
RandallNeustaedter |
no problem with doing RAST blood tests |
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12:26:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
chatters order: BabyLilip, LindaKuzyk,
jkelleycaires, moozy21 |
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12:26:47 |
BabyLilip |
My second question is at what age can I
give him fish oil directly? |
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12:28:14 |
RandallNeustaedter |
At any age. I recommend that all
children get a DHA supplement (as in
fish oil) by the time they are nursing
less than every few hours, and prior to
that I have all nursing mothers take an
adequate fish oil supplement for the
benefit through breastmilk. |
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12:28:28 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:28:32 |
LindaKuzyk |
I apologize for the earlier
interruption. I am still interested in
giving the parents of my AD(H)D kids a
packet of info. Most of them won't read
a book. I also worry about the future
of my 3-yr. old granddaughter...(ADHD).
Advice? |
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12:28:36 |
BabyLilip |
Thank you very much Dr. I really
appreciate it. |
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12:28:36 |
Webmama_Tina |
chatters order: LindaKuzyk,
jkelleycaires, moozy21 |
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12:29:37 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Copy the section from my book for them.
Or go online and get the articles on
attention from my site cure-guide.com
and hpakids.org |
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12:29:51 |
LindaKuzyk |
Thank you. |
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12:29:53 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:29:54 |
jkelleycaires |
what supplements/therapies do you
recommend for profoundly academically
accelerated children that mimic many
symptoms of ADHD, but are actually NOT
(neuropsych ruled this out)and in fact
have sensory motor overexcitabilities
related to profound giftedness? |
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12:30:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
chatters order: jkelleycaires, moozy21 |
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12:30:56 |
RandallNeustaedter |
wow, that's an unusual question and I am
not sure I am really qualified to answer
it |
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12:31:05 |
jkelleycaires |
understand - but thought I would try |
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12:31:08 |
jkelleycaires |
:) |
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12:32:13 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Gifted children need an adequate program
of enrichment, which is not always so
easily provided. It really depends on
their type of giftedness, as in the
Howard Gardner theories of multiple
intelligences. |
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12:33:15 |
RandallNeustaedter |
There are certainly experts to consult.
You might want to contact one of schools
that specializes in this area such as
the Nueva School in Hillsborough, CA
which is dedicated to educating gifted
children. |
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12:33:18 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:33:21 |
moozy21 |
My son (Aspergers) tested 16X the
reference range for HHV6. Is Valtrex the
only (or most appropriate)way to deal
with this. I am afraid as he has reacted
to even Benadryl. |
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12:35:16 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Aspergers is so responsive to
homeopathy. Please read Judyth
Reichenberg-Ullman's book on Asperger's
Syndrome. I suggest you get it, just
google those words for the exact title.
She and her husband also do phone
consultations. They are really the
leading experts in the field of
homeopathic tx of Asperger's. |
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12:35:18 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:36:09 |
Webmama_Tina |
i think that was everyone in the
queue...mamas, throw out some more
question marks! :) |
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12:36:28 |
moozy21 |
? |
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12:36:35 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I am happy to expound more on these
issues. |
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12:36:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok that would be great! :) |
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12:36:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
moozy, you have more to your question? |
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12:37:02 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I was racing through because usually we
are so pressed for time. |
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12:37:21 |
effiebarnett |
? |
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12:37:24 |
RandallNeustaedter |
So we can go back to any of these cases
for more detailed discussion. |
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12:37:41 |
moozy21 |
yes, or could you please comment on raw
diry? |
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12:37:49 |
moozy21 |
dairy |
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12:38:01 |
RandallNeustaedter |
OK raw dairy. |
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12:38:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok effie you're next after moozy :) |
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12:38:48 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I recommend that everyone look at the
work of Sally Fallon on this subject at
westonaprice.org or I believe the other
site is realmilk.com. |
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12:39:01 |
RandallNeustaedter |
anyway it is all on the westonaprice
site |
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12:39:11 |
BabyLilip |
great, I'm all ears... |
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12:39:48 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I have seen many behavioral and
developmental problems improve when
children are switched to raw milk
products |
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12:39:59 |
RandallNeustaedter |
the autism community has pioneered this
work |
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12:40:38 |
RandallNeustaedter |
so kids who react to homogenized and/or
pasteurized milk often do fine on raw
dairy products as long as the issue is
not a lactose intolerance |
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12:40:58 |
RandallNeustaedter |
and lactose usually only effects GI
function (gas and tummy aches) |
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12:41:09 |
RandallNeustaedter |
that's pretty much it about dairy |
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12:41:22 |
BabyLilip |
Wonderful, thanks Dr. |
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12:41:33 |
RandallNeustaedter |
my book also has a long discussion of
the harmful effects of homogenizing and
pasteurizing milk |
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12:41:44 |
RandallNeustaedter |
others? |
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12:42:05 |
BabyLilip |
? |
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12:42:07 |
effiebarnett |
Have you seen a rise in ADD/behavior
disorders over the years, and if yes,
what do you think is causing the
increase? |
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12:42:16 |
RandallNeustaedter |
VACCINES |
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12:42:31 |
effiebarnett |
Thank you - how about epidurals? |
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12:42:45 |
Webmama_Tina |
chatters order:effiebarnett BabyLilip |
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12:42:55 |
moozy21 |
? |
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12:43:28 |
Webmama_Tina |
chatters order:effiebarnett BabyLilip
moozy21 |
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12:43:39 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Possibly epidurals play a role, I don't
really know, but I think the plague of
behavior issues is due in large part to
the assault on the nervous system with
vaccines. |
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12:43:55 |
effiebarnett |
Thank you! |
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12:44:03 |
RandallNeustaedter |
The awful expectations of most
classrooms to keep kids quiet does not
help either. |
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12:44:16 |
RandallNeustaedter |
next |
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12:44:22 |
effiebarnett |
Tell me about it. |
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12:44:44 |
BabyLilip |
As I said before, my 17 month old son
gets hives (red skin with white bumps)
when his skin comes in contact with any
dairy product. He has never eaten any
dairy yet. Do you think I can try to
give him some and see how he reacts if
he actually eats some? |
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12:45:58 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I don't recommend that children get milk
until at least two years, if at all. I
see no need to give him dairy at all.
Why do you want to experiment at this
point? |
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12:46:49 |
BabyLilip |
I'm thinking about raw milk. Besides my
milk supply has gone extremely low and
there are not much rice milk products
available that he likes |
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12:47:03 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Support his system and allow his body to
grow out of sensitivities until he is
over two. |
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12:47:27 |
BabyLilip |
Would you still recommand rice milk by
then? |
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12:47:32 |
RandallNeustaedter |
A 17 month old does not need milk other
than breast milk. |
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12:47:48 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Rice milk has little nutritional value.
Just use water. |
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12:47:49 |
BabyLilip |
I don't have much milk supply anymore! |
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12:48:58 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Relax. If you are giving him a natural
foods diet of fruits, grains, poultry,
and whatever veges he will eat then that
is perfectly adequate |
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12:49:19 |
BabyLilip |
Thanks, just wanted to make sure. |
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12:49:44 |
BabyLilip |
So 'I will just add fish oil and make
sure that he gets enough calcium. right? |
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12:49:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
chatters order:BabyLilip moozy21 |
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12:50:04 |
RandallNeustaedter |
My feeling is that all of you Mothering
mothers are doing so well already that
you need to give yourselves credit about
your children's well being. |
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12:50:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
10more minutes left in chat. :) |
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12:50:37 |
BabyLilip |
Thank you so much Dr. |
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12:50:50 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Calcium is way over-rated. Children need
many minerals, and calcium is just one. |
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12:51:20 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I do acknowledge that some kids are
picky eaters and a calcium/magnesium
supplement may be prudent. |
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12:52:02 |
BabyLilip |
Great, thanks again. |
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12:52:28 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I use liquid calcium by MRM
(mrm-usa.com) or a chewable calcium
citrate with magnesium |
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12:52:46 |
RandallNeustaedter |
hard to get kids to take ca supplements
because they tend to be chalky |
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12:52:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
moozy, you're up again! |
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12:52:52 |
moozy21 |
My child was not vaccinated. Other
things playing into this behavior/CNS
assult epidemic also, right? |
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12:53:10 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I think that children over 12 months
will get enough ca from whole grains and
veges |
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12:53:52 |
BabyLilip |
wow... I feel so much better now. I
appreciate it. |
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12:54:11 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I tend to be cautious about paranoid
thinking and finger pointing when it
comes to causative relationships. |
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12:55:36 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I would rather avoid as many toxic
exposures as possible (pesticides and
cleaning products) and support kids'
systems with whole nutrition and
supplementation with fats. then treat
them if needed with more profound
methods like constitutional homeopathy |
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12:55:55 |
moozy21 |
thank you so much doctor |
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12:56:29 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Many of these kids in times past just
went into appropriate professions for
them like hunting wild animals for the
village |
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12:57:07 |
RandallNeustaedter |
You get an ADD kid out on the basketball
court or the gokart track and they are
just fine. |
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12:57:28 |
LindaKuzyk |
? |
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12:57:36 |
RandallNeustaedter |
So many professional level athletes had
these problems as children, not to
mention other geniuses. |
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12:58:09 |
RandallNeustaedter |
So it all needs to be kept in
perspective, steering children and teens
to the activities that will support
their own individual styles. |
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12:58:19 |
Webmama_Tina |
i think we might have just enough time
for Linda's question, if its a quick
one? |
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12:58:39 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I love Mel Levine's books in that regard
because they are so supportive and
directive and positive for parents of
challenging kids. |
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12:59:10 |
LindaKuzyk |
As a veteran classroom teacher, I have a
problem with trying to get the ADD kids
to learn without getting in the way of
the non ADD kids. What are your
thoughts around that? |
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13:00:02 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Mel Levine has dedicated a great deal of
time and effort to teaching teachers how
to assess individual children's learning
styles with the Schools Attuned program. |
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13:00:14 |
LindaKuzyk |
quick question and no quick answer
there! :) :( |
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13:00:45 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I think it is possible for gifted
teachers to design individual learning
programs and think in that paradigm. |
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13:00:56 |
LindaKuzyk |
after assessment, then there's
implementation...that's the glitch |
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13:01:36 |
LindaKuzyk |
gifted or otherwise, there is no time
allowed for us to collabortate |
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13:01:46 |
LindaKuzyk |
collaborate |
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13:01:47 |
RandallNeustaedter |
I admit it is a challenge to educate 20
or more children in a single setting
when they have such different styles. |
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13:01:53 |
LindaKuzyk |
amdn |
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13:01:56 |
LindaKuzyk |
amen |
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13:02:02 |
LindaKuzyk |
I'm hurrying |
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13:02:10 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Flexibility is key, but I am preaching
to the choir here. |
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13:02:17 |
LindaKuzyk |
yay-us |
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13:02:50 |
LindaKuzyk |
things need to change....i don't want to
medicate kids either |
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13:02:57 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Keep up the great work you guys. I am so
impressed with your dedication. |
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13:03:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
thank you doctor! |
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13:03:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
another great chat, as always! |
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13:03:27 |
RandallNeustaedter |
There is a revolution occurring in the
way we educate and treat our children. |
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13:03:34 |
Webmama_Tina |
gawd i hope so! |
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13:03:38 |
LindaKuzyk |
tell that to Bush |
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13:03:38 |
RandallNeustaedter |
You are all on the front lines. |
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13:03:54 |
RandallNeustaedter |
We just need to keep up our own
individual work. |
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13:04:05 |
LindaKuzyk |
oops,,,did I say that out loud> |
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13:04:09 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol linda |
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13:04:25 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Kids will benefit and the tide is
turning. |
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13:04:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok i need to jam...time for my dd's yoga
class...another great chat, as always! |
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13:04:31 |
Webmama_Tina |
stay tuned for the transcripts! |
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13:04:37 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Holistic pediatrics is the wave of the
future. |
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13:04:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
i will post to the egroup when i have
them up |
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13:04:41 |
RandallNeustaedter |
Bye folks |
