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Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat with Randall Neustaedter OMD - Dr. Randall Neustaedter has practiced holistic medicine for more than thirty years in the San Francisco Bay area, specializing in child health care. He is a licensed acupuncturist and Doctor of Oriental Medicine, as well as education diretor of the Holistic Pediatric association www.hpakids.org, author of Child Health Guide and The Vaccine Guide, and father of five children. Visit his website, www.cure-guide.com to register for a free newsletter with pediatric updates.
Chat topic: Learning Styles and Children's Development. The Dr. answers questions regarding child development, individual learning styles, appropriate enrichment of children's unique talents and opportunities, managing the school process, and positive approaches to learning problems.

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7/19/06

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12:05:21 Webmama_Tina Join Dr. Neustaedter for a chat on Learning Styles and Children's Development. Bring your questions regarding child development, individual learning styles, appropriate enrichment of children's unique talents and opportunities, managing the school process, and positive approaches to learning problems.
12:05:27 Webmama_Tina hold on net
12:05:39 net-or-ilovemy2ds i think I asked the wrong ? lol
12:05:46 Webmama_Tina dr did you want to add anything?
12:05:47 Webmama_Tina :)
12:06:11 alynda ?
12:06:19 RandallNeustaedter I am also happy to include how attention and learning interact.
12:06:50 Webmama_Tina ok, net do you have our first question?
12:07:10 net-or-ilovemy2ds i did but not the right topic lol
12:07:10 RandallNeustaedter Last time we talked about ADHD so these two areas really synchronize.
12:07:29 Webmama_Tina do you have one on topic?
12:07:43 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters (after net):  alynda
12:07:45 laurasb26 ?
12:07:48 net-or-ilovemy2ds not at the moment
12:08:03 Webmama_Tina lol ok, alynda?
12:08:28 RandallNeustaedter I will try to get everyone's questions addressed, then we can go back with more detail if there is time and we need more discussion.
12:08:56 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  alynda  laurasb26
12:09:07 laurasb26 Dr. Randall i was wondering about the struggle that all mothers have between decidying to stay home at taking them to nursery. What are your thoguths
12:09:14 alynda my son is 15 months old, and plays with toysfor only moments at a time, going from one thing to another very quickly...could he have an attention problem, or is this normal for his age?
12:09:32 Webmama_Tina laura, its alynda's turn first
12:09:48 laurasb26 sorry, i misunderstood your message :)
12:09:50 Webmama_Tina dr, if you could address alynda's question, and then we'll get to laura's...help keep things on track. :)
12:09:58 Webmama_Tina no worries :)
12:09:59 Webmama_Tina it happens
12:10:26 RandallNeustaedter Normal babies at this age have a very short attention span and they move from one activity to another.
12:11:16 RandallNeustaedter Some parents experience that a new toy lasts for about 90 seconds, especially in really intelligent babies. They learn about it, master it, then they are off to something that attracts their interest.
12:11:29 RandallNeustaedter Not to worry. Enjoy your energetic and exploring baby.
12:11:44 RandallNeustaedter Attention problems are way, way overstated.
12:12:01 RandallNeustaedter Babies do not have attention problems.
12:12:09 RandallNeustaedter Does that answer it?
12:12:24 alynda yes, thanks
12:12:29 RandallNeustaedter next
12:12:42 Webmama_Tina laura, your turn now
12:12:50 laurasb26 ok,
12:13:08 laurasb26 sorry the question is above and i can't copy it
12:13:15 RandallNeustaedter The daycare issue is huge. What age?
12:13:29 laurasb26 i just wanted to find out the learning plus and minus from nurseries and staying home
12:13:33 laurasb26 well now 1
12:13:44 Webmama_Tina to copy/paste you have to click the copy content button in the toolbar above where you type
12:14:12 RandallNeustaedter OK a 1 year old does not need to learn social skills, so there is no reason that your baby cannot get everything she needs at home with you.
12:14:33 RandallNeustaedter Gymboree type sessions are fun, but they are not necessary.
12:14:39 laurasb26 yes, very social, goes to swimming and other play groups.
12:14:52 RandallNeustaedter They may however give you some ideas.
12:15:01 laurasb26 so in terms of socializing no need. does he not get too attached to mom?
12:15:28 Webmama_Tina playgroups are more for the moms at that age, aren't they dr?
12:15:37 Webmama_Tina :)
12:15:46 RandallNeustaedter I am just happy that you have the freedom to stay home with your baby. Other moms agonize over this issue of leaving their babies to someone else's care.
12:16:18 RandallNeustaedter Attachment to mom and dad is the goal of attachment parenting folks. It makes for secure, confident children.
12:16:51 RandallNeustaedter At 2 1/2 or at least 3 it is very helpful for toddlers to have experience with socializing.
12:16:59 RandallNeustaedter Does that answer it?
12:17:04 laurasb26 yes indeed, very fortunate to stay home. thank you you confirmed my insights
12:17:13 RandallNeustaedter next
12:17:28 Webmama_Tina i don't currently have anyone else in queue...anyone have a question for the doctor?
12:17:40 alynda ?
12:17:47 Webmama_Tina we're talking child development and learning styles today
12:17:52 Webmama_Tina go for it alynda
12:18:00 pyxiwulf ?
12:18:41 Webmama_Tina pyxiwulf, you're after alynda
12:18:46 RandallNeustaedter Don't worry I can start expounding too and bring up issues for everyone.
12:18:55 alynda regarding attachment..my 15 mo ds isn't handling short separations well; he's been ap'd by my husband and I since birth, but I do work PT out of the home, and he isn't doing well with it...clingy and fussy. again, is it the age? my mom thinks
12:19:18 alynda I ap'd him wrong", and made him 'too attached'"
12:19:58 RandallNeustaedter There is no such thing as too attached at this age.
12:20:12 net-or-ilovemy2ds ?
12:20:38 laurasb26 ?
12:20:40 RandallNeustaedter Babies at this age are just that. Attached, not really ready for separation even though it is necessary at times.
12:21:17 RandallNeustaedter when babies and toddlers start developing language skills they tend to become wary and anxious of strangers
12:21:32 alynda would it make sense to curtail the time I spend away from him, until he is better able to handle it, or try to make it as easy a spossible for him as he adjusts to it? the P/T job doesn't pay enough that I want to risk his development on it
12:21:47 ourwiefamily ?
12:21:48 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:   pyxiwulf  net-or-ilovemy2ds  laurasb26
12:21:49 willsmum ?
12:22:24 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:   pyxiwulf  net-or-ilovemy2ds  laurasb26  ourwiefamily  willsmum
12:22:38 RandallNeustaedter This is usually due to their familiarity with the parents' ways of interacting with them and other styles of interacting and language/facial expression/body language are unfamiliar. They develop into more security with it as they gain experience.
12:23:24 RandallNeustaedter This will not impair his development. The best scenario is for you and him to spend time with the other caregiver until he is more secure.
12:23:53 RandallNeustaedter Sooner or later he will become more able to stay on his own, even if he still has problems separating.
12:24:13 alynda thank you
12:24:27 Webmama_Tina ok pyxi, you're up
12:24:36 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:   pyxiwulf  net-or-ilovemy2ds  laurasb26  ourwiefamily  willsmum
12:24:40 RandallNeustaedter Familiarity is usually the key. The timeframe depends on his temperament and how shy/withdrawing/introverted he is.
12:24:44 RandallNeustaedter Does that help?
12:25:14 RandallNeustaedter next
12:26:07 pyxiwulf ., what can we do to
12:26:45 pyxiwulf my 65 yrd old has never practiced her skills, this has made th traditional school setting difficult, what can we do to accomodate her?
12:26:52 pyxiwulf make that 5 yr old
12:27:30 Webmama_Tina social skills you mean?
12:27:33 RandallNeustaedter By skills I assume you mean alphabet and numbers?
12:27:43 Webmama_Tina oh, or that, lol
12:27:56 pyxiwulf all types, motor and academic
12:28:45 RandallNeustaedter Children practice motor skills on their own. If she is having gross motor skill problems at this age, then that is truly a problem.
12:29:03 RandallNeustaedter If you mean she doesn't draw accurately, then that is not a problem at this age.
12:29:25 Webmama_Tina change to queue--upcoming chatters:   ourwiefamily, laurasb26, net-or-ilovemy2ds, willsmum
12:29:56 RandallNeustaedter I personally feel that children are hurried" in our culture. Of course the Waldorf philosophy does not introduce academics or worksheets at this age."
12:30:08 pyxiwulf I told ourwiefamily she could jump me, I need to reword my ?
12:30:28 Webmama_Tina oh ok, i thought she was swapping w/net
12:30:39 Webmama_Tina ok go for it karla
12:30:43 ourwiefamily We just had a new baby (6wo).  My 21mo dd is feeling displaced, I think.  She alternates between loving on him and attacking him.  I'm giving her special focussed times during the day and trying to emphasize the times she is positive w/ baby.
12:30:55 ourwiefamily but how should I react right after she does something mean to baby?
12:31:06 RandallNeustaedter Most children catch up in K and beyond. The teacher should be able to assess whether there is a problem.
12:31:17 RandallNeustaedter Are we done with the 5 year old issue?
12:31:39 laurasb26 Webmama_Tina sorry tina, i have to feed my boy. if i make it later i will ask the question. thank you.
12:31:52 Webmama_Tina i think she wanted to reword it..ourwie has to leave soon so asked to jump ahead
12:32:02 mayjo ?
12:32:02 Webmama_Tina ok
12:32:16 RandallNeustaedter OK a 2 year old is likely to feel jealous. That is normal.
12:32:34 ourwiefamily yes.  I'm just not sure how to react when she bites him or scratches
12:32:41 RandallNeustaedter The analogy is your husband says we are bringing home a new wife and we will love her as much as you.
12:33:12 RandallNeustaedter At this age children do not retain the memory of being the only child. That is why this spacing works so well.
12:33:15 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  pyxiwulf, net-or-ilovemy2ds, willsmum,  mayjo
12:33:18 RandallNeustaedter This faze will pass.
12:33:25 Webmama_Tina (after ourwie)
12:33:42 ourwiefamily i should clarify and say this is our 7th child but never had this level of rivalry .... so should I just hang in here and hope it will pass?
12:34:01 RandallNeustaedter If she can have special time with grandma or other adult friends and family then that will go a long way to keeping her aware that she is still the center of the universe.
12:34:18 Webmama_Tina i think ourwie would like a specific example of how to react when an incident happens
12:34:29 RandallNeustaedter Again, this is probably a temperament issue with her and it will pass.
12:34:29 Webmama_Tina is that right karla?
12:34:48 RandallNeustaedter By the time you have 7, OMG, you should be the expert doing this chat.
12:34:49 ourwiefamily yes :) it is.  I don't want to make their relationship more negative by reacting harshly to her
12:34:58 Webmama_Tina LOL
12:35:02 ourwiefamily I worry it would reinforce that she is displaced, yk?
12:35:19 ourwiefamily but I don't think I should ignore it either
12:35:23 RandallNeustaedter Don't react harshly. Just separate her from the situation if she is getting too frisky.
12:35:27 ourwiefamily lol ... well I'm not an expert
12:35:41 RandallNeustaedter It sounds like over-exuberance too. Not to worry.
12:35:53 RandallNeustaedter All moms are experts at their own children.
12:36:35 RandallNeustaedter No one knows your baby better than you. Trust your intuition. It is there for a really good reason.
12:36:42 RandallNeustaedter next
12:36:46 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  pyxiwulf, net-or-ilovemy2ds, willsmum,  mayjo, Webmama_Tina
12:36:55 ourwiefamily thanks ... not sure why I need to hear that over and over again, but it's true! :)
12:37:02 pyxiwulf the 5 yr old has always just done things without allowing us to see her practice, example:  she never said mama or the like, but all of a sudden could speak clearly."
12:37:02 Webmama_Tina pyxi, you ready again?
12:37:16 Webmama_Tina woops
12:37:22 Webmama_Tina you beat me, lol
12:37:29 pyxiwulf now that she has homework, we have problems because she does not like to practice per say
12:37:52 pyxiwulf we don't know how to make the traditional school setting work for her
12:38:16 littlebird ?
12:38:28 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  (after pyxiwulf) net-or-ilovemy2ds, willsmum,  mayjo,  Webmama_Tina,  littlebird
12:38:41 RandallNeustaedter Lots of kids wait until they feel confident before they show you they can do something. A typical example is two year olds who start talking in full sentences without previously uttering a word.
12:38:54 pyxiwulf that's exactly her!
12:39:01 RandallNeustaedter Homework for a 5 year old is really not appropriate.
12:39:13 RandallNeustaedter I would have a conversation with the teacher about her style.
12:39:38 RandallNeustaedter And keep communicating with teachers about your child's individual learning style all through the academic years.
12:39:54 RandallNeustaedter You know your child. How they learn and experience the world. The teacher does not.
12:40:29 RandallNeustaedter Every teacher should welcome your insights and experience to make the learning process in school as successful for your child as possible.
12:40:44 RandallNeustaedter does that answer it?
12:40:50 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  (after pyxiwulf) net-or-ilovemy2ds, willsmum,  mayjo,  Webmama_Tina,  littlebird
12:40:53 pyxiwulf I guess I knew that, thank you for the reassurance :)
12:41:09 RandallNeustaedter Of course you know it.
12:41:13 laurasb26 ?
12:41:41 RandallNeustaedter I think lots of communication with the teacher and school is often the best tool to making it go smoothly.
12:42:08 RandallNeustaedter next
12:42:10 net-or-ilovemy2ds 10 months ago my 2nd ds was born and we had to stay in the NICU in a diff town for a couple days, my DS 5yo was very clingy after just going outside with out him cause an emotional break down, he's a bit better now but still quite clingy, should he be over
12:42:43 net-or-ilovemy2ds this by now?, he use to be really excited about starting school now he just wants to stay home with me
12:43:08 RandallNeustaedter It all sounds very confusing for him.
12:43:12 net-or-ilovemy2ds and be with me ALL the time
12:43:15 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  (after net-or-ilovemy2ds), willsmum,  mayjo,  Webmama_Tina,  littlebird,  laurasb26
12:43:33 RandallNeustaedter Talk to the teacher about staying in the classroom because of this scary time for him.
12:43:40 RandallNeustaedter Is that possible for you?
12:43:58 net-or-ilovemy2ds even after almost a year(it will be a year when he starts school)
12:44:02 net-or-ilovemy2ds yes
12:44:24 RandallNeustaedter I am a big fan of clinginess.
12:44:38 RandallNeustaedter Kids need to cling to parents.
12:44:50 RandallNeustaedter Its a scary place out there with lots of stimulation.
12:45:03 net-or-ilovemy2ds and I guess me working odd shifts and never being home before baby was hard for him too
12:45:21 RandallNeustaedter Most of us do not live on ranches with animals and nature and a slow pace.
12:45:30 net-or-ilovemy2ds lol
12:45:49 RandallNeustaedter Children are fragile at this age and need lots of love and support.
12:46:22 RandallNeustaedter He will get over this. If he doesn't then develop a plan with the teacher.
12:46:24 Webmama_Tina oh what i wouldn't give for a ranch with nature and animals! *sigh*
12:46:26 RandallNeustaedter next
12:46:33 net-or-ilovemy2ds thanks
12:46:33 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:   willsmum,  mayjo,  Webmama_Tina,  littlebird,  laurasb26
12:46:40 willsmum I have a 9 m old ds. When he was born, I was really struggling with him as he hardly ever slept, so we spent most of our time in the family room with the TV on. Have I screwed him up developmentally or caused ADD?? Or just being overly cautious?
12:47:02 willsmum Sorry if its a dumb question but I'm quite concerned
12:47:47 RandallNeustaedter TV exposure is a big topic. I don't recommend it for babies, but I don't think you have created an addict yet.
12:48:00 RandallNeustaedter If you stop now, I think everything will be fine.
12:48:27 RandallNeustaedter It is a valid concern. But I wouldn't worry about it.
12:48:41 RandallNeustaedter Just your awareness of the issue is more than most.
12:48:57 RandallNeustaedter You know Baby Einstein is being sued for misleading claims!
12:49:13 RandallNeustaedter next
12:50:00 mayjo My daughter has turned 3yrs & she speaks maybe 30 words & a couple 2 word sentences.  She seems to understand everything. We don't live near family/friend, recent separation.. Should I be worried & what do you think of speech therapists?
12:51:15 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters: (after mayjo),  Webmama_Tina,  littlebird,  laurasb26
12:51:30 RandallNeustaedter Sorry I was just looking this up. If you go to this link there is a full discussion of language delays
12:52:20 RandallNeustaedter Well I can't get the copy command to work. Just go to my website at www.cure-guide.com and search for language delay.
12:52:36 mayjo thanks
12:52:58 RandallNeustaedter You may want to have her assessed. The school district is required to do this for free. Take advantage of that.
12:53:01 Webmama_Tina click on the copy content button
12:53:11 Webmama_Tina its in the toolbar above where you type...
12:53:16 Webmama_Tina oh wait, you just need to paste, right?
12:53:19 Webmama_Tina ctrl v
12:53:41 RandallNeustaedter Speech therapists are usually very qualified to handle this. http://www.cure-guide.com/Child_Health_Guide/Language_Delays/language_delays.html
12:53:49 RandallNeustaedter there that's the link
12:53:50 Webmama_Tina the right click options don't work in here because they have specific ones for the chat, so you have to know the hot keys...ctrl c is copy, ctrl v is paste
12:53:52 Webmama_Tina :)
12:53:57 RandallNeustaedter thanks Tina
12:53:59 Webmama_Tina sure thing
12:54:26 Webmama_Tina we have 6 min left in the chat...mayjo, was your question answered?
12:54:29 RandallNeustaedter next
12:54:35 Webmama_Tina ok, my turn! :)
12:54:46 mayjo yes & she is getting assessed
12:54:49 Webmama_Tina my daughter is now 5.5yrs old and has a major attitude...
12:55:04 Webmama_Tina never really had this til around 5...she'll be 6 in nov
12:55:08 Webmama_Tina is this normal for this age?
12:55:19 Webmama_Tina i mean she's mouthy and defiant and she's just so nasty sometimes
12:55:34 RandallNeustaedter yes this is normal for preteens
12:55:45 Webmama_Tina oh its infuriating! 5yrs is preteen?
12:56:12 RandallNeustaedter just kidding. Children need to express their independence.
12:56:20 Webmama_Tina i'm not sure how to deal with her because i don't believe in punishment...although i do believe in consequences...but its hard sometimes to find an appropriate consequence for nastiness
12:56:33 RandallNeustaedter Often this manifests as rebellious behavior.
12:56:52 RandallNeustaedter I don't think punishment is appropriate for children.
12:57:19 Webmama_Tina yes she's rebellious and mouthy and sassy and very difficult to get to listen sometimes...she's not like this all the time luckily, but when she is it just makes me bang my head into a wall
12:57:25 Webmama_Tina yes i agree...i don't believe in punishment
12:57:38 RandallNeustaedter Consequences are nice if you can do it or think of one that is not punishment, like we can't go play if you don't put on your clothes.
12:57:46 RandallNeustaedter But that is often a punishment for parents.
12:58:03 Webmama_Tina consequences like logical consequences i do use...like if she chooses not to eat, she just goes hungry because i'm not going to fix her a whole 'nother meal...yes, exactly
12:58:12 RandallNeustaedter There are some very good scenarios you can practice with her.
12:58:36 Webmama_Tina its difficult to come up with logical consequences for mouthiness that don't feel like punishmetns
12:58:38 RandallNeustaedter I fix whole other meals for my 5 year old. Am I bad?
12:59:07 Webmama_Tina lol, well that's a whole nother story for me...she's a super picky eater and won't eat what she picked out sometimes....another story for another day....LOL
12:59:30 RandallNeustaedter The scenarios include showing her what you expect in different situations.
12:59:46 RandallNeustaedter There are some good books about this for kids this age.
12:59:58 RandallNeustaedter Send me an email and I will get you the references.
13:00:04 RandallNeustaedter I think this will help.
13:00:37 RandallNeustaedter My 5 yr old son has taken a social skills class for his age that really helps give him some alternative language choices.
13:00:43 Webmama_Tina ok thanks! i appreciate it! i'm banging my head against the wall and yelling entirely too much...i hate that i'm getting reduced to yelling! i need some alternatives!
13:00:49 RandallNeustaedter other ?
13:00:57 Webmama_Tina upcoming chatters:  littlebird,  laurasb26
13:00:59 littlebird My 9 year old gets very annoyed with her younger sisters (she especially hates singing) and is hard to manage.  She does better when she has special activities to do, but sometimes it seems she shouldn't deserve them...
13:01:03 littlebird Especially since she has expensive interests (horseback riding).  I hate to deny her special things as well.  Any ideas?
13:01:17 littlebird All are homeschooled: 9, 6, 4, and baby.    Oh, and we have lots of animals, nature, and a pretty slow pace around here!
13:01:52 RandallNeustaedter I believe in children becoming experts at what they love.
13:02:09 littlebird Yes, I agree and it is a big part of our homeschooling
13:02:12 RandallNeustaedter Allowing older children to pursue their interests is often the answer.
13:02:20 RandallNeustaedter And teaching the younger kids.
13:02:26 RandallNeustaedter You have your hands full.
13:02:28 littlebird I just want to see her reciprocating with the rest of us
13:02:36 littlebird Being poite, helpful, etc
13:03:04 RandallNeustaedter And I assume your 9yo feels very responsible for the younger kids and probably resentful about being the 2nd mommy at times.
13:03:09 RandallNeustaedter I would be frustrated too.
13:03:16 RandallNeustaedter Allow her to express her feelings.
13:03:31 littlebird She is REALLY not a mommy type!  My 6 year old is more the 2nd mommy!
13:03:33 RandallNeustaedter And talk about them in a meeting when she is not acting out.
13:03:47 littlebird The oldest is very self centered
13:03:58 littlebird Star material at best, selfish at worst!
13:04:20 littlebird YEs, I do think we need to have a talk.  My husband gets through to her the best
13:04:20 RandallNeustaedter Capitalize on her self-centeredness. She is just coming into her own.
13:04:45 littlebird Talking here has given me some clarity, though
13:04:50 RandallNeustaedter Let her shine at what she loves and she should become more confident.
13:05:15 RandallNeustaedter Don't get stuck in a big struggle with her at this age. She will develop out of this.
13:05:31 RandallNeustaedter Or stay self-centered. The world needs that type too.
13:05:37 littlebird I hope so.  She has always been a handful.  She is just very intense
13:05:44 RandallNeustaedter One more and I need to go.
13:05:49 littlebird BUt has so much potential.
13:05:58 littlebird Thank you@
13:06:34 Webmama_Tina oh wow, got sidetracked by waking baby and phone...we are overtime, sorry dr!
13:06:52 Webmama_Tina do you have time for laura's last question?
13:06:59 RandallNeustaedter sure
13:07:01 Webmama_Tina she was the last in queue
13:07:03 laurasb26 btw, and out of the subject, have you thought of writing a book on this subject?  :)  do  you have any thoughts on the Montessori method and in regards to language, speaking 2 languages at home, and english is not one of them. should we reconsider?
13:08:03 RandallNeustaedter I love Montessori as long as it is not overly structured for the individual child.
13:08:28 RandallNeustaedter My book Child Health Guide discusses many of these issues.
13:08:46 RandallNeustaedter I recommend all the books by Mel Levine about these issues too.
13:09:27 RandallNeustaedter Better learn 3 languages. Kids can handle many languages and discern who needs which in their conversations.
13:09:34 RandallNeustaedter Got ot go folks.
13:09:43 laurasb26 thank you
13:09:44 RandallNeustaedter Great to be with you as always.
13:09:48 mommy_05 hello. my name is stephanie and i am new to this.
13:10:06 Webmama_Tina by dr, thank you!
13:10:10 RandallNeustaedter I am open to questions by email as well through my website at www.cure-guide.com
13:10:10 Webmama_Tina you were wonderful, as always!
13:10:20 Webmama_Tina can you post your email again dr?
13:10:30 RandallNeustaedter randalln@cure-guide.com
13:10:38 Webmama_Tina mommy_05, we are just finishing this week's mothering mag sponsored chat
13:10:48 Webmama_Tina but stick around because there's always casual chatting here!
13:10:50 RandallNeustaedter And don't forget to subscribe to my newsletter if you arent already.
13:10:58 Webmama_Tina ok dr, thank you!

 

 

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