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13:10:57 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok, i'm going to post the blurb from mothering's
email...that covers things for today's chat....hold
on... |
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13:11:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
HOT MOTHERING TOPIC THRUST INTO LIMELIGHT For nearly 30
years, Mothering has informed our readers on diverse
aspects of what we believe to be “the issue of our
times,” vaccinations. Since 1999, Mothering has
consistently reported on breaking developments linking
vaccines, thimerosal, and autism. Last week, the topic
we’ve covered for six years got its most high-profile
exposure yet when a new article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
titled “Deadly Immunity” was published simultaneously by
Rolling Stone and Salon.com. This week, Mothering.com
will be highlighting our extensive cache of information
and resources, as well as featuring a link to “Deadly
Immunity”, along with interviews and live chats with
prominent members of the autism community. Check out the
daily features at www.mothering.com. Join us Thursday at
2 PM Eastern, 1PM Central, 12PM Rocky Mountain, 11AM
Pacific for a live chat with mother, author, and autism
activist Sarah Bridges. Her son is one of only 1,800
kids that the government has officially acknowledged in
Vaccine Court as being vaccine injured. Don’t miss this
chance to chat with Sarah, a mom who challenged
convention, took on the government, and won, on behalf
of her son. |
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13:11:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
there we go... |
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13:11:27 |
zakers_mama |
sorry........actually I have a few ??? |
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13:11:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
hold on zakers...lets get sarah's intro first. :) |
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13:11:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok sarah, why don't you introduce yourself and tell us a
little about your background and experience |
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13:12:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
and when you are done, let us know that you are ready
for your first question. :) |
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13:12:23 |
sarahbridges |
It's great to be here. The blurb above tells how I got
started, and it's been quite a ride. I was trained as a
scientist and then fell into this after my son was brain
damaged. I have 4 great kids in all. |
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13:12:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
and don't mind me as i post reminders to newcomers here
and there... |
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13:12:46 |
sarahbridges |
Ask anything |
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13:13:23 |
zakers_mama |
OK I've got a couple... |
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13:13:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
beckie you got the queue going here? |
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13:13:30 |
Webmama_Tina |
(just checking) |
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13:13:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes zakers you are first in line :) |
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13:13:59 |
Webmama_Tina |
go for it :) |
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13:14:47 |
sarahbridges |
I'm ready if you have questions |
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13:14:55 |
Webmama_Tina |
zakers, you're up. :) |
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13:14:59 |
zakers_mama |
OK sorry making ds lunch too |
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13:15:28 |
zakers_mama |
first I would like to know if you've also heard children
w/milk allergy and/or a fam. history of seizures should
not get the pertussis vax |
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13:15:46 |
zakers_mama |
and second, do you know of any link between developing
food allergies and vaxs |
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13:16:14 |
slonatejones |
? |
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13:16:28 |
sarahbridges |
I believe that children with family history of seizures
should not get pertussis and that milk allergy may
indicate imuune issues which would say no pertussis |
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13:17:08 |
sarahbridges |
There is research going that thimerosal suppresses
immune functioning causing many allergies. It is very
typical in these kids. Next question |
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13:17:15 |
zakers_mama |
THANK YOU........would you have any insight as to WHY I
had to find this out through my own research after my
son had 3 doses of pertussis vax?? |
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13:17:54 |
sarahbridges |
I think you are asking why they develop allergies and it
ties back to immune damage that mercury (thimerosal)
causes in kids. |
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13:18:18 |
zakers_mama |
*supposedly* though my 8 mo old didn't get
thimerosal..... |
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13:18:28 |
sarahbridges |
Also, milk amplifies the effect of the mercury in
thimerosal actually making reactions to it worse (this
is from mice studies) |
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13:18:51 |
sarahbridges |
You can find out if your child did or didn't get
thimerosal by getting the lot number. Next |
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13:18:54 |
Mod_Beckie |
Slonatejones you are next :) |
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13:19:15 |
slonatejones |
thanks. hi - father of 2.5 year old unvaccinated
Kaylor"." |
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13:19:36 |
zakers_mama |
WOW......something else I didn't know......the only
thing I do know is my son did not have allergies before
his 2 mo shots and he started showing signs of it about
3 weeks after his first set....which I KNEW I shouldn't
have gotten... |
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13:19:42 |
zakers_mama |
OK I'm done now. |
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13:20:06 |
slonatejones |
and baby #2 due in 1 month. questions: are you in
support of vaccines in general and which would you
suggest getting for sure? |
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13:20:09 |
Webmama_Tina |
you can get in line again zakers if you have more
questions...just post another question mark :) |
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13:20:22 |
Mimiheart |
? |
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13:20:35 |
sarahbridges |
I am in support of polio, and DT if without thimerosal |
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13:20:49 |
slonatejones |
thanks. |
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13:21:00 |
sarahbridges |
I personally would avoid Heb B as you won't be exposed
until teen years, I also would wait on newer vaccines. |
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13:21:07 |
slonatejones |
agree totally |
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13:21:11 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:21:14 |
sarahbridges |
The jury is out on MMR for some children |
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13:21:28 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:21:30 |
Mod_Beckie |
Mimiheart, it's your turn :) |
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13:22:30 |
Mimiheart |
I didn't get my first two children vaccinated at all. I
have a 2.5 month old, who got the DTaP two weeks ago,
because of pressure from the ped. during a curreng
epidemic."" |
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13:22:54 |
Mimiheart |
She's been congested ever since. Is this one of the
possible reactions? Should I not get her any more? |
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13:23:48 |
sarahbridges |
It is such a personal question--and one contingent on
how you understand your child's health. On the good
note--DTaP is now thimerosal free and accelular. I did
give my children DT, though not the booster which only
comes with mercury (5 and 7 year old shot) |
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13:24:45 |
sarahbridges |
The other thing to remember is that estrogen is
protective regarding mercury and testosterone amplifies
it (hence 1/80 boys with autism). Next |
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13:24:52 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama, your turn again :) |
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13:25:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
? |
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13:25:29 |
zakers_mama |
OK.....tell me what you know about the possible link
between vax'ing and diabetes |
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13:25:46 |
zakers_mama |
(ds already has a strong genetic tendency to that too) |
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13:26:05 |
sarahbridges |
I know much less about that although am aware that there
is a body of knowledge-- sorry not to be more specific,
next |
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13:26:29 |
Mimiheart |
? |
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13:26:31 |
Mod_Beckie |
Webmama_Tina, your up! |
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13:26:34 |
zakers_mama |
Z? |
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13:26:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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13:26:44 |
colletta101 |
? |
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13:27:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
it seems like all the fear around vaccines centers
around thimerosal....is there other ingredients we
should be worried about? |
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13:27:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
and also...are the current vaccines truly thimerosal
free? i know the flu shot is not... |
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13:27:57 |
sarahbridges |
Good question. Thimerosal has been the biggest, but I
would still watch MMR, and some of the newer ones (Heb B
has had numerous adverse reports) |
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13:27:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
seems like i read somewhere that they say they are
thimerosal free and some are just lower doses....don't
remember exactly |
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13:28:35 |
sarahbridges |
The infant vaccines largely have only trace amounts
(probably ok) thought the flu shot has so much mercury
you would need to weigh 275 pounds to take it. |
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13:29:08 |
sarahbridges |
Also, many many boosters still have it (most required
shots)--and all infant vaccines in developing countries
now have mercury thanks to our exports. next |
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13:29:10 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Mimiheart, Zakers_Mama, and
Colletta101 |
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13:29:23 |
Mod_Beckie |
Go ahead Mimiheart :) |
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13:29:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
lovely |
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13:29:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
thankyou |
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13:29:28 |
Mimiheart |
What do you know about consuming tuna during pregnancy
and early childhood in relation to murcury
poisoning/autism? |
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13:30:34 |
sarahbridges |
I am writing an article for Organic Style about that now
and know that it is VERY dangerous during pregnancy and
should be avoided for young children. I would stay away
from any large fish and severely limit other fish. One
toxic serving at a sensitive window time can be very
detriment |
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13:30:59 |
sarahbridges |
I missed the last question |
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13:31:29 |
Mod_Beckie |
Mimiheart was the last question? |
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13:31:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
the tuna question |
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13:31:57 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:31:59 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama is next |
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13:32:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
? |
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13:32:48 |
anji |
? |
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13:33:13 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama? |
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13:33:18 |
zakers_mama |
How do I deal with the fact that I chose an extremely
pro-vax ped before I researched this, and my insurance
won't let me switch without a letter stating why and
they have to approve it?> |
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13:33:47 |
zakers_mama |
I'm pretty sure they'd consider ME wrong in refusing
vax's? |
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13:33:57 |
sarahbridges |
It depends on the state in which you live. If you have
objections (legally) state that assertively and ask
him/her to respect beliefs |
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13:34:17 |
michelle |
Maybe you already answered this are there any
vaccinations you reccommend for babies and can a
physician refuse to see you if you dont get them |
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13:34:31 |
sarahbridges |
They do pressure you to vx as that is in the public
good's interest--though can be horrendous for individual
children. |
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13:34:56 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Coletta101, Webmama_Tina, and Anji |
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13:35:06 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:35:09 |
sarahbridges |
I don't know in your state if doctors can refuse to see
you--find out. I personally would do the polio, DT
(thimerosal free) |
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13:35:29 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:35:37 |
Mod_Beckie |
Colletta101, your up! |
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13:35:41 |
slonatejones |
? |
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13:35:44 |
Webmama_Tina |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have
your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU!
:)" |
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13:35:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
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13:36:23 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Webmama_Tina, Anji, Zakers_mama,
Slonatejones |
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13:36:25 |
colletta101 |
Hi, I am mom to a 12 yr old severely affected son wit h
autism aka mercury poisoning. my question, Rfk,jr
mentioned that 5 of his kids are from the 'thimerosal
generattion. Is it to nosy to ask if any of his kids are
affected? Also, I thank him so much!" |
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13:36:25 |
sarahbridges |
next is fine |
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13:37:13 |
sarahbridges |
He does not have an autistic child--but is passionate
this to a degree that you would think he does. Outrage
is the way I'd describe it. next |
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13:37:30 |
Mod_Beckie |
Webmama_Tina Your turn :) |
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13:37:50 |
sarahbridges |
Nomercury.org has a great thank you card for him with
hundreds of notes.. |
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13:38:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok i was wondering if you have your own belief on a
timetable to give babies vaccines...as far as delaying
them and then which to give.... |
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13:38:04 |
colletta101 |
Thanks , I dont' understand why all parents of
vaccinated kids are not outraged! |
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13:38:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'm having a baby again any day now and haven't decided
yet what to do about vaccines...we selectively immunized
my dd |
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13:38:41 |
sarahbridges |
As I've studied immune function it is clear to me that
less at once is better, and older is better. |
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13:39:36 |
sarahbridges |
Scandanavian countries do fewer shots and at an older
age. I have deferred as many as I can so my children
will be bigger and have developed brains. The lesson
from thimerosal is stagger the shots (the kids got over
100 times the safe limit for mercury on given days. next |
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13:39:46 |
Mod_Beckie |
Anji, your turn! |
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13:39:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
i know some people wait til 6months, 1 year....just
wondering what age you thought would be ok to start? and
we do choose to separate the vaccines where possible, i
totally agree on that..my dd had MMR each
separate...like a month in between each shot |
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13:40:08 |
anji |
Do you think there is any connection between the massive
rise of ADD cases and the number of vaccinations
required" to attend school?" |
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13:40:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
woops, sorry, i typed without reading |
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13:40:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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13:40:42 |
sarahbridges |
There is clearly a link from the reserach between
thimerosal and ADD--many studies about that. Still
unclear on other vx and their addititves. |
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13:41:01 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:41:05 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_Mama, your up! |
