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13:10:57 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok, i'm going to post the blurb from mothering's
email...that covers things for today's chat....hold
on... |
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13:11:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
HOT MOTHERING TOPIC THRUST INTO LIMELIGHT For nearly 30
years, Mothering has informed our readers on diverse
aspects of what we believe to be “the issue of our
times,” vaccinations. Since 1999, Mothering has
consistently reported on breaking developments linking
vaccines, thimerosal, and autism. Last week, the topic
we’ve covered for six years got its most high-profile
exposure yet when a new article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
titled “Deadly Immunity” was published simultaneously by
Rolling Stone and Salon.com. This week, Mothering.com
will be highlighting our extensive cache of information
and resources, as well as featuring a link to “Deadly
Immunity”, along with interviews and live chats with
prominent members of the autism community. Check out the
daily features at www.mothering.com. Join us Thursday at
2 PM Eastern, 1PM Central, 12PM Rocky Mountain, 11AM
Pacific for a live chat with mother, author, and autism
activist Sarah Bridges. Her son is one of only 1,800
kids that the government has officially acknowledged in
Vaccine Court as being vaccine injured. Don’t miss this
chance to chat with Sarah, a mom who challenged
convention, took on the government, and won, on behalf
of her son. |
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13:11:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
there we go... |
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13:11:27 |
zakers_mama |
sorry........actually I have a few ??? |
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13:11:41 |
Webmama_Tina |
hold on zakers...lets get sarah's intro first. :) |
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13:11:56 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok sarah, why don't you introduce yourself and tell us a
little about your background and experience |
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13:12:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
and when you are done, let us know that you are ready
for your first question. :) |
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13:12:23 |
sarahbridges |
It's great to be here. The blurb above tells how I got
started, and it's been quite a ride. I was trained as a
scientist and then fell into this after my son was brain
damaged. I have 4 great kids in all. |
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13:12:24 |
Webmama_Tina |
and don't mind me as i post reminders to newcomers here
and there... |
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13:12:46 |
sarahbridges |
Ask anything |
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13:13:23 |
zakers_mama |
OK I've got a couple... |
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13:13:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
beckie you got the queue going here? |
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13:13:30 |
Webmama_Tina |
(just checking) |
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13:13:38 |
Webmama_Tina |
yes zakers you are first in line :) |
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13:13:59 |
Webmama_Tina |
go for it :) |
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13:14:47 |
sarahbridges |
I'm ready if you have questions |
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13:14:55 |
Webmama_Tina |
zakers, you're up. :) |
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13:14:59 |
zakers_mama |
OK sorry making ds lunch too |
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13:15:28 |
zakers_mama |
first I would like to know if you've also heard children
w/milk allergy and/or a fam. history of seizures should
not get the pertussis vax |
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13:15:46 |
zakers_mama |
and second, do you know of any link between developing
food allergies and vaxs |
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13:16:14 |
slonatejones |
? |
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13:16:28 |
sarahbridges |
I believe that children with family history of seizures
should not get pertussis and that milk allergy may
indicate imuune issues which would say no pertussis |
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13:17:08 |
sarahbridges |
There is research going that thimerosal suppresses
immune functioning causing many allergies. It is very
typical in these kids. Next question |
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13:17:15 |
zakers_mama |
THANK YOU........would you have any insight as to WHY I
had to find this out through my own research after my
son had 3 doses of pertussis vax?? |
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13:17:54 |
sarahbridges |
I think you are asking why they develop allergies and it
ties back to immune damage that mercury (thimerosal)
causes in kids. |
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13:18:18 |
zakers_mama |
*supposedly* though my 8 mo old didn't get
thimerosal..... |
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13:18:28 |
sarahbridges |
Also, milk amplifies the effect of the mercury in
thimerosal actually making reactions to it worse (this
is from mice studies) |
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13:18:51 |
sarahbridges |
You can find out if your child did or didn't get
thimerosal by getting the lot number. Next |
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13:18:54 |
Mod_Beckie |
Slonatejones you are next :) |
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13:19:15 |
slonatejones |
thanks. hi - father of 2.5 year old unvaccinated
Kaylor"." |
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13:19:36 |
zakers_mama |
WOW......something else I didn't know......the only
thing I do know is my son did not have allergies before
his 2 mo shots and he started showing signs of it about
3 weeks after his first set....which I KNEW I shouldn't
have gotten... |
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13:19:42 |
zakers_mama |
OK I'm done now. |
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13:20:06 |
slonatejones |
and baby #2 due in 1 month. questions: are you in
support of vaccines in general and which would you
suggest getting for sure? |
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13:20:09 |
Webmama_Tina |
you can get in line again zakers if you have more
questions...just post another question mark :) |
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13:20:22 |
Mimiheart |
? |
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13:20:35 |
sarahbridges |
I am in support of polio, and DT if without thimerosal |
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13:20:49 |
slonatejones |
thanks. |
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13:21:00 |
sarahbridges |
I personally would avoid Heb B as you won't be exposed
until teen years, I also would wait on newer vaccines. |
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13:21:07 |
slonatejones |
agree totally |
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13:21:11 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:21:14 |
sarahbridges |
The jury is out on MMR for some children |
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13:21:28 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:21:30 |
Mod_Beckie |
Mimiheart, it's your turn :) |
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13:22:30 |
Mimiheart |
I didn't get my first two children vaccinated at all. I
have a 2.5 month old, who got the DTaP two weeks ago,
because of pressure from the ped. during a curreng
epidemic."" |
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13:22:54 |
Mimiheart |
She's been congested ever since. Is this one of the
possible reactions? Should I not get her any more? |
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13:23:48 |
sarahbridges |
It is such a personal question--and one contingent on
how you understand your child's health. On the good
note--DTaP is now thimerosal free and accelular. I did
give my children DT, though not the booster which only
comes with mercury (5 and 7 year old shot) |
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13:24:45 |
sarahbridges |
The other thing to remember is that estrogen is
protective regarding mercury and testosterone amplifies
it (hence 1/80 boys with autism). Next |
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13:24:52 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama, your turn again :) |
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13:25:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
? |
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13:25:29 |
zakers_mama |
OK.....tell me what you know about the possible link
between vax'ing and diabetes |
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13:25:46 |
zakers_mama |
(ds already has a strong genetic tendency to that too) |
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13:26:05 |
sarahbridges |
I know much less about that although am aware that there
is a body of knowledge-- sorry not to be more specific,
next |
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13:26:29 |
Mimiheart |
? |
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13:26:31 |
Mod_Beckie |
Webmama_Tina, your up! |
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13:26:34 |
zakers_mama |
Z? |
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13:26:37 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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13:26:44 |
colletta101 |
? |
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13:27:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
it seems like all the fear around vaccines centers
around thimerosal....is there other ingredients we
should be worried about? |
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13:27:35 |
Webmama_Tina |
and also...are the current vaccines truly thimerosal
free? i know the flu shot is not... |
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13:27:57 |
sarahbridges |
Good question. Thimerosal has been the biggest, but I
would still watch MMR, and some of the newer ones (Heb B
has had numerous adverse reports) |
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13:27:58 |
Webmama_Tina |
seems like i read somewhere that they say they are
thimerosal free and some are just lower doses....don't
remember exactly |
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13:28:35 |
sarahbridges |
The infant vaccines largely have only trace amounts
(probably ok) thought the flu shot has so much mercury
you would need to weigh 275 pounds to take it. |
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13:29:08 |
sarahbridges |
Also, many many boosters still have it (most required
shots)--and all infant vaccines in developing countries
now have mercury thanks to our exports. next |
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13:29:10 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Mimiheart, Zakers_Mama, and
Colletta101 |
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13:29:23 |
Mod_Beckie |
Go ahead Mimiheart :) |
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13:29:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
lovely |
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13:29:27 |
Webmama_Tina |
thankyou |
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13:29:28 |
Mimiheart |
What do you know about consuming tuna during pregnancy
and early childhood in relation to murcury
poisoning/autism? |
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13:30:34 |
sarahbridges |
I am writing an article for Organic Style about that now
and know that it is VERY dangerous during pregnancy and
should be avoided for young children. I would stay away
from any large fish and severely limit other fish. One
toxic serving at a sensitive window time can be very
detriment |
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13:30:59 |
sarahbridges |
I missed the last question |
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13:31:29 |
Mod_Beckie |
Mimiheart was the last question? |
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13:31:50 |
Webmama_Tina |
the tuna question |
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13:31:57 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:31:59 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama is next |
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13:32:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
? |
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13:32:48 |
anji |
? |
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13:33:13 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama? |
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13:33:18 |
zakers_mama |
How do I deal with the fact that I chose an extremely
pro-vax ped before I researched this, and my insurance
won't let me switch without a letter stating why and
they have to approve it?> |
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13:33:47 |
zakers_mama |
I'm pretty sure they'd consider ME wrong in refusing
vax's? |
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13:33:57 |
sarahbridges |
It depends on the state in which you live. If you have
objections (legally) state that assertively and ask
him/her to respect beliefs |
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13:34:17 |
michelle |
Maybe you already answered this are there any
vaccinations you reccommend for babies and can a
physician refuse to see you if you dont get them |
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13:34:31 |
sarahbridges |
They do pressure you to vx as that is in the public
good's interest--though can be horrendous for individual
children. |
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13:34:56 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Coletta101, Webmama_Tina, and Anji |
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13:35:06 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:35:09 |
sarahbridges |
I don't know in your state if doctors can refuse to see
you--find out. I personally would do the polio, DT
(thimerosal free) |
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13:35:29 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:35:37 |
Mod_Beckie |
Colletta101, your up! |
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13:35:41 |
slonatejones |
? |
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13:35:44 |
Webmama_Tina |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have
your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU!
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13:35:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
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13:36:23 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Webmama_Tina, Anji, Zakers_mama,
Slonatejones |
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13:36:25 |
colletta101 |
Hi, I am mom to a 12 yr old severely affected son wit h
autism aka mercury poisoning. my question, Rfk,jr
mentioned that 5 of his kids are from the 'thimerosal
generattion. Is it to nosy to ask if any of his kids are
affected? Also, I thank him so much!" |
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13:36:25 |
sarahbridges |
next is fine |
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13:37:13 |
sarahbridges |
He does not have an autistic child--but is passionate
this to a degree that you would think he does. Outrage
is the way I'd describe it. next |
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13:37:30 |
Mod_Beckie |
Webmama_Tina Your turn :) |
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13:37:50 |
sarahbridges |
Nomercury.org has a great thank you card for him with
hundreds of notes.. |
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13:38:03 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok i was wondering if you have your own belief on a
timetable to give babies vaccines...as far as delaying
them and then which to give.... |
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13:38:04 |
colletta101 |
Thanks , I dont' understand why all parents of
vaccinated kids are not outraged! |
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13:38:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
i'm having a baby again any day now and haven't decided
yet what to do about vaccines...we selectively immunized
my dd |
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13:38:41 |
sarahbridges |
As I've studied immune function it is clear to me that
less at once is better, and older is better. |
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13:39:36 |
sarahbridges |
Scandanavian countries do fewer shots and at an older
age. I have deferred as many as I can so my children
will be bigger and have developed brains. The lesson
from thimerosal is stagger the shots (the kids got over
100 times the safe limit for mercury on given days. next |
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13:39:46 |
Mod_Beckie |
Anji, your turn! |
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13:39:49 |
Webmama_Tina |
i know some people wait til 6months, 1 year....just
wondering what age you thought would be ok to start? and
we do choose to separate the vaccines where possible, i
totally agree on that..my dd had MMR each
separate...like a month in between each shot |
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13:40:08 |
anji |
Do you think there is any connection between the massive
rise of ADD cases and the number of vaccinations
required" to attend school?" |
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13:40:10 |
Webmama_Tina |
woops, sorry, i typed without reading |
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13:40:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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13:40:42 |
sarahbridges |
There is clearly a link from the reserach between
thimerosal and ADD--many studies about that. Still
unclear on other vx and their addititves. |
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13:41:01 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:41:05 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_Mama, your up! |
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13:41:13 |
zakers_mama |
I live in a state with religious exemption only. My
problem is with ingredients in *certain* vax's. Can I
choose to finish certain ones for my son and
religious-exempt others? |
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13:42:01 |
sarahbridges |
I have done that--though you need to first separate what
they are getting on certain days (so you can say I
object this visit, versus I object to this vax). This is
not legal advice--just experience |
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13:42:19 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:42:20 |
Mod_Beckie |
Slonatejones, it's your turn :) |
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13:42:22 |
slonatejones |
would you suggest going to the county for single-dose
thm-free shots? |
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13:42:34 |
sarahbridges |
Going to the county? |
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13:42:44 |
slonatejones |
county health dpt. |
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13:42:52 |
Mimiheart |
? |
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13:42:58 |
sarahbridges |
I would absolutely get the thimerosal free shots if you
can. |
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13:43:14 |
slonatejones |
i've heard that's the only place to ensure you get what
you want"" |
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13:43:27 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:43:38 |
sarahbridges |
I am not an advocate of the flu shot, though, as
efficacy studies repeatedly show it confers little
value. next |
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13:43:48 |
Mod_Beckie |
Mimiheart, your up! |
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13:43:53 |
Mimiheart |
Is there thimerosol in the meningitis vaccine? |
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13:44:23 |
Webmama_Tina |
meningitis=HIB? |
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13:44:41 |
sarahbridges |
I believe that there are a few versions, so you will
need to ensure you get a mercury free one.
www.nomercury.org has a list of shots with mercury--HIB
is different. next |
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13:44:46 |
Mimiheart |
I think so, the ped. keeps calling it meningitis |
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13:45:08 |
eva&giosmom |
? |
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13:45:27 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:45:32 |
Mod_Beckie |
zakers_mama your up |
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13:45:37 |
zakers_mama |
With the delayed vaxing....if I were to wait until my
child was 2 or older, would they give him the
thimerosal-containing booster or the thimerosal-free
infant vax? |
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13:46:10 |
sarahbridges |
Good question. They don't use infant vaccines for much
older kids--but I don't know in that grey area of
between 2-5. |
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13:46:12 |
sarahbridges |
next |
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13:46:23 |
Mod_Beckie |
Eva+Giosmom |
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13:46:25 |
Mod_Beckie |
your up :) |
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13:46:46 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:47:04 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:47:13 |
eva&giosmom |
my hubbie is a chiro and recently went to a vaccine
seminar, Dr tim o'shea and came back and scared me to
death . well anyways we did decided to vaccinate my 10
week old cause he said that if no one vaccinated there
would be more dead childeren in the |
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13:47:21 |
eva&giosmom |
wrold is that true? |
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13:47:40 |
colletta101 |
? |
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13:47:53 |
eva&giosmom |
thethe pred said that |
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13:48:02 |
eva&giosmom |
ped sorry holding my baby |
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13:48:09 |
sarahbridges |
I think it is probably true--no doubt vaccines do a lot
of good. The two questions for me are: is it a safe
vaccine, and is my child sensitive to having a reaction. |
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13:48:11 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:48:19 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama, you up |
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13:48:23 |
Mod_Beckie |
your up :) |
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13:48:40 |
eva&giosmom |
? |
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13:48:48 |
zakers_mama |
How would I find out BEFORE I waited what they'd do for
him? |
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13:49:00 |
Mimiheart |
? |
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13:49:14 |
sarahbridges |
I would think about family history--is there much
autoimmune disease or seizures or bad allergies? |
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13:49:18 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:49:26 |
Mod_Beckie |
zakers_mom, your up |
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13:49:38 |
zakers_mama |
No I mean with the thimerosal if they would give him
thimerosal or not |
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13:49:45 |
sarahbridges |
Also, don't vaccinate when they are on antibiotics or
sick- |
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13:50:05 |
zakers_mama |
? |
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13:50:08 |
Mod_Beckie |
oh, sorry, my bad, it was actually colletta101's turn |
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13:50:13 |
Mod_Beckie |
Excuse my preggo brain ;) |
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13:50:34 |
colletta101 |
Sarah, How is your son doing today? My 12 yr old
thankfully does not have seizures. He had the gradually
regression into autism after his MMR and is still
severely affected though we keep tryng everything. |
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13:50:43 |
Webmama_Tina |
10 minutes left in the chat :) |
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13:51:08 |
sarahbridges |
He is still severely affected-daily seizures, mental
retardation, autism, etc--I will say though he is the
happiest person I know. |
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13:51:13 |
Mod_Beckie |
Upcoming Chatters ~ Eva&giosmom, Mimiheart, zakers_mama |
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13:51:30 |
sarahbridges |
I'm sorry about your son--have you looked at the DAN!
protocol? |
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13:51:34 |
Mimiheart |
actually-ne'er mind she answered it |
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13:51:59 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:52:08 |
Mod_Beckie |
eva&giosmom |
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13:52:10 |
eva&giosmom |
how would i find out if my son or daughter would have a
reaction to a vaccine? |
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13:52:10 |
Mod_Beckie |
your turn ! |
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13:52:43 |
colletta101 |
yes, we been doing biomedical for 8 yrs, diet etc. a
tough nut case. He suffers with allergies, headaches
etc. |
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13:52:57 |
sarahbridges |
I don't know that you can know ahead. I would think
about family history, baby's size (avoid preemie shots)
whether they've been on a lot of antibiotics (bad), if
they are sick. |
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13:53:15 |
sarahbridges |
I'm sorry it has been so hard to help--we are in a
similar boat. |
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13:53:18 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:53:26 |
Mod_Beckie |
Zakers_mama, your turn |
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13:53:49 |
zakers_mama |
What would you do if you had the situation I do...with
current ds or future dc's? My son was *not* 'born with'
a milk intolerance, it showed up right after his 2 mo.
vax's. He also has family history of seizures and
diabetes. |
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13:54:29 |
sarahbridges |
I would avoid pertussis, heb b, mmr--but again--that is
my experience from having a damaged child--it is so
personal. |
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13:54:32 |
sarahbridges |
ready |
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13:54:33 |
zakers_mama |
Oh and my family history is unknown...I'm adopted. |
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13:54:44 |
Mod_Beckie |
The queue is finished :) |
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13:55:10 |
sarahbridges |
Well good luck to everyone with your kids. You sound
like such great parents. |
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13:55:34 |
sarahbridges |
Is that it? |
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13:55:46 |
jen |
thank you |
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13:55:53 |
zakers_mama |
DS already had his shots up to 6 mos. I want him to
finish DT and polio mostly due to the fact we might
travel to areas where you still see this. How old
should I wait till? |
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13:55:56 |
colletta101 |
Thank you Sarah. God Bless! |
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13:56:23 |
zakers_mama |
thank you *so much* too :) |
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13:56:28 |
sarahbridges |
I did polio on schedule--and perhaps stagger DT and push
back a few months. |
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13:56:37 |
sarahbridges |
you are very welcome. |
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13:56:51 |
Mod_Beckie |
Thank you very much, this has been very interesting~ |
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13:56:55 |
eva&giosmom |
*fingerscrossed* <===is alli can do but thank you so
much |
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13:57:08 |
sarahbridges |
Take care everyone |
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13:57:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
thankyou so much sarah! |
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13:57:20 |
Webmama_Tina |
this has been a very informative chat |
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13:57:25 |
Mimiheart |
thanks |
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13:57:27 |
zakers_mama |
thank you!! :):) |
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13:57:41 |
sarahbridges |
I have to say that when my child was first injured
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13:57:46 |
sarahbridges |
Thanks for that. |
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13:57:51 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah mothering rocks, lol! :) |
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13:57:59 |
zakers_mama |
they're STILL the only place that talks about it! |
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13:58:11 |
Webmama_Tina |
i have to say i was very disappointed with the abc
coverage of that article last nite... |
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13:58:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
did you see it? |
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13:58:24 |
zakers_mama |
well I mean as in talking to other people who don't vax
and having articles about vax injury etc |
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13:58:26 |
Webmama_Tina |
they basically refuted it all and said that robert
kennedy had no expertise in the area |
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13:58:42 |
jen |
hopefully someday there will be NOMORE talk of it it
wii be in the past! |
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13:58:51 |
Mimiheart |
Montel had a fascinating show the other day, I may start
watching him regularly-despite the fact that I don't
watch TV. |
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13:58:51 |
sarahbridges |
I was horribly upset.They actually did a fair piece with
him a week ago, then under pressure from the top were
told to recut " it and add CDC and IOM--all of whom have
terrible conflicts." |
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13:59:07 |
Webmama_Tina |
yeah they definitely did NOT show both sides |
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13:59:13 |
Webmama_Tina |
they should have had experts supporting it as well |
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13:59:13 |
zakers_mama |
I LOVED that show, it even got my MOM on my side with
the vaxing! |
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13:59:33 |
zakers_mama |
can I ask *one more* question? |
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13:59:34 |
sarahbridges |
Bobby K also was rejected by NYT (we went and presented
to the edit board) and very few places would even
discuss what he is doing as it is 'too political"
06/23/05" |
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13:59:39 |
sarahbridges |
sure |
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13:59:42 |
Webmama_Tina |
lol zakers |
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13:59:52 |
eva&giosmom |
zankers was it the one with yes on vacinating?? |
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14:00:02 |
eva&giosmom |
i seen that one along time ago |
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14:00:04 |
Webmama_Tina |
geez, you'd think people would actually listen to
someone big like that...argh |
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14:00:17 |
zakers_mama |
Do you think I'm insane for thinking my child's milk
allergy is a result of his vaccinations? |
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14:00:44 |
zakers_mama |
I mean, I have *never* heard of a child suddenly
developing colicky symptoms and an allergy at 3 months
old... |
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14:00:47 |
Mimiheart |
I don't, but then again, I think my daughter's
congestion is due to the vaccines |
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14:00:48 |
sarahbridges |
I don't. THere is a lot of research showing thimerosal
(if your child got that) wreaks havoc on immune
function. |
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14:00:52 |
zakers_mama |
til my kid |
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14:01:13 |
sarahbridges |
I was saying I don't think it is crazy to correlate milk
allergy with vaccines. |
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14:01:25 |
Webmama_Tina |
its all so scary |
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14:01:29 |
Webmama_Tina |
damned if you do and damned if you don't |
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14:01:31 |
zakers_mama |
I think there is trace in the Pediarix otherwise he
didn't get *any* |
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14:01:33 |
Webmama_Tina |
hate this issue |
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14:02:06 |
Webmama_Tina |
are there any other websites you would like to refer us
to before you go sarah? |
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14:02:11 |
eva&giosmom |
yeah webmama ...me and my dh had some problems cause of
that dang seminar he went to |
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14:02:13 |
sarahbridges |
It is really awful. But follow your gut and stand up if
people push on you. Even after the doctors admitted my
son was brain damaged by pertussis, one of them tried to
give it again. |
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14:02:14 |
Webmama_Tina |
i can put them up on the site |
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14:02:15 |
zakers_mama |
and what do you think of a vax like Pediarix? I didn't
WANT to consent to it........but my ped talked me into
it, I really hadn't researched the whole thing yet so I
didn't really know what to say... |
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14:02:33 |
Mimiheart |
What I don't understand is because of this epidemic, the
pediatricians are trying to get kids vaccinated against
purtussis more than the regular vaccine schedule...I
can't figure out how that could help. |
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14:03:13 |
zakers_mama |
It wears off what is the point? Even my really pro vax
friend is against chicken pox vax because of that... |
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14:03:22 |
Webmama_Tina |
pertussis is a survivable disease too...scary to watch
kids with it, but i have a friend who all her kids have
survived it |
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14:03:24 |
sarahbridges |
The problem with that argument is that in recent
outbreaks at least half of the kids with it were
vaccinated. Again--you need to go by what is right for
you--read up--and then tell doctors, I appreciate your
beliefs, and hope you will respect mine"" |
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14:03:39 |
zakers_mama |
sarah, did your son get the 'P' or the 'aP'? |
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14:03:54 |
sarahbridges |
He got the P they pulled off the market 10 months after
his injury |
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14:04:00 |
Webmama_Tina |
ok i'm sure sarah needs to go now... :) we could
probably go on all day discussing this very serious
issue |
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14:04:00 |
zakers_mama |
:( |
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14:04:01 |
Webmama_Tina |
:) |
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14:04:16 |
Webmama_Tina |
we really appreciate your time sarah! |
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14:04:18 |
Mimiheart |
my daughter got it on June 8th-2 month check up, and
they want her to have it again on July 5th. |
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14:04:28 |
colletta101 |
Sarah is right moms. Always go with your gut, do not
give in to the docs or anyone. Once your kid is damaged
there is no going back. |
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14:04:36 |
sarahbridges |
I do need to run, but again, thanks so much for having
me--and do visit nomercury.org--it is run by a medical
family and fantastic! |
