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Cesarean Awareness Chat with ICAN (International Cesarean Awareness Network) --#21
2/22/06

4 mamas in attendance

18:58:04 attachedmama is this the ICAN chat?
19:00:30 attachedmama am I the only one here?
19:04:46 claudia This is Claudia, from ICAN - International Cesarean Awareness Network.
19:06:42 christymomof2 Hi Everyone!
19:06:50 attachedmama oh good, I'm not alone! lol
19:06:50 claudia Hi
19:06:59 christymomof2 Hi Claudia! How are you?
19:07:03 christymomof2 Hi Attached
19:07:08 claudia I am good, and you?
19:07:12 christymomof2 Doing good thanks!
19:07:25 claudia How are things?
19:07:40 attachedmama Hello christy and claudia
19:07:55 claudia Hello A.
19:08:09 christymomof2 Pretty good, although Megan has stopped sleeping through the night, and Noah since graduating to a 'big boy' bed has woken me up at least once every night
19:08:10 christymomof2 lol
19:08:34 attachedmama I'm new
19:08:37 claudia Tired?
19:08:45 christymomof2 how did you guess? LOL
19:08:51 christymomof2 Well welcome Attached!
19:08:56 christymomof2 How did you hear about ICAN?
19:08:56 claudia Attached, you are new? Do you have questions?
19:09:22 claudia This is Claudia from ICAN, by the way.
19:09:26 attachedmama I heard about ICAN through my HBAC yahoo group
19:09:41 christymomof2 LOL...I'm on HBAC, are you a new member there?
19:09:42 claudia Good. I had an HBAC too.
19:09:44 LynnB Hi
19:09:54 claudia Hi Lynn.
19:09:55 attachedmama yeah I just joined a few days ago
19:09:59 attachedmama my name is Ashley
19:10:04 attachedmama if that helps
19:10:05 christymomof2 Hi Lynn! Is this Jeffrey Banauch""
19:10:07 christymomof2 ?
19:10:10 LynnB yes :)
19:10:13 christymomof2 I know I spelled it wrong
19:10:14 christymomof2 lol
19:10:16 LynnB Well Jeffrey is my dh, lol
19:10:23 claudia Hi Ashley. Are you planning an HBAC?
19:10:24 LynnB almost right
19:10:41 christymomof2 that's okay...I have an odd last name too. Never gets spelled right
19:10:53 christymomof2 Thanks for the info on the EWFM by the way
19:10:59 LynnB Hmm, can't think of it, but I got the Christy part LOL
19:11:10 LynnB Hi Claudia, Ashley
19:11:13 attachedmama I am not pregnant yet but plan to be in a month or so, and yes I'm planning an HBAC
19:11:16 christymomof2 it's Fiscer, but pronounced FisHer
19:11:19 claudia What is EWFM?
19:11:21 LynnB aha
19:11:25 christymomof2 Egg white fertile mucous
19:11:27 LynnB oh dear...lol
19:11:47 LynnB yes, we disussed our cervical mucous, sigh
19:12:11 christymomof2 That's really exciting Ashley!
19:12:13 LynnB Ashley - do you mind sharing what state you're in?
19:12:25 christymomof2 Yes Claudia, lol....I may or may not have had fertile mucous already
19:12:37 attachedmama Ohio
19:12:37 christymomof2 and a day after a woops" in not using anything as far as BC"
19:12:42 claudia When were your cesareans, all? Mine was 1997. HBAC 2003.
19:12:56 attachedmama c-sec July 2005
19:12:57 christymomof2 C-section 3-2004
19:12:59 LynnB c/s '02, hbac '04
19:13:05 christymomof2 HBAC 11-2005
19:13:22 claudia All recent
19:13:36 LynnB Yes, it's sad, huh
19:13:43 claudia It never ends
19:13:56 attachedmama I wish I had been more educated about my options when I was pregnant
19:14:01 claudia The silly things that got me my cesarean, still happen to friends of mine
19:14:01 LynnB Well I am in Kentucky my midwife has done some births near Cinci
19:14:05 christymomof2 And it seems like unless women are open to a HBAC, the chance of VBAC right now is slim and none
19:14:41 LynnB right, I felt that when I had to chose where to birth. From the ICAN list, I saw so many hospital births turn c/s, even with the best laid plans
19:14:45 claudia My guess is that most cs moms want a VBAC, but after multiple OB visits they get worn down
19:14:55 christymomof2 Yep Lynn...exactly
19:15:01 christymomof2 We decided on a homebirth at 33 weeks
19:15:04 christymomof2 I was sick of fighting
19:15:05 LynnB It's too bad when you really don't have a choice
19:15:21 LynnB I was thrilled to vbac at home, but I know not everyone wants to do that
19:15:31 christymomof2 It is...but you know what? For me, it ended the best possible way. I'll never step foot in a hospital again for birth, even if everything was supported""
19:15:34 LynnB Exactly Christy
19:15:42 attachedmama I was a little appaled when a friend of mine had an elective c-sec for her second
19:15:56 LynnB Me too. I just want my BODY left alone, please. sigh
19:16:01 claudia I tried to change OBs, then tried a birth center but finally I ended up realizing that to get all my birth plan wishes I needed to stay at home
19:16:24 attachedmama can I ask some HBAC and/or midwife questions?
19:16:24 LynnB It's hard to watch someone CHOOSE a section
19:16:25 christymomof2 Ashley...I have a friend really mad at me right now because I've challenged her choice to have yet another c/s even though I showed her EVERY evidence of her first not only being unnecessary, but also unethical
19:16:31 christymomof2 Sure Ashley!
19:16:55 attachedmama *nervous*
19:17:06 christymomof2 about the question, or about the HBAC?
19:17:12 claudia The success rate of VBAC in hospital is very high 70-80 percent, but with vaginal cesareans (episotomies, etc). Go ahead Asheley.
19:17:13 attachedmama Umm, how did you choose a midwife?
19:17:28 claudia Interview, intervie, interview
19:17:36 christymomof2 I called around. I live in a very set-apart place, where we only have 3 hospitals within an hour radius
19:17:37 claudia Until you click with one
19:17:43 christymomof2 There were only 3 that would come to my town
19:17:51 christymomof2 1 was out of town my last 2 weeks of pregnancy
19:17:54 claudia Ask for references too
19:18:00 christymomof2 1 was too expensive, and too intervention happy
19:18:06 christymomof2 and the third was just perfect
19:18:08 claudia Medwife?
19:18:13 christymomof2 Sounded like it!
19:18:29 christymomof2 She wanted to meet EVERY week, wanted another u/s, allllll my previous records, etc
19:18:42 attachedmama do midwives do prenatal visits, just as you would with an OB?
19:18:42 christymomof2 she seemed too hands ON
19:18:48 LynnB I was blessed to click with the first one!
19:18:49 christymomof2 Yes Ashley
19:19:07 LynnB yes, it's lovely when they actually come to your house for prenatals. I felt so spoiled :P
19:19:28 christymomof2 Mine checked heartrate each time, my blood pressure, weight was up to me--I opted to not weigh myself, and even hemoglobin!
19:19:36 claudia OB visits are 4 minutes, hoembirth midwives around 1 hour
19:19:47 claudia Very spoiled i felt
19:19:52 christymomof2 She even palpated to see that Megan was posterior
19:19:54 christymomof2 little bugger
19:20:10 claudia I am a doula, and OP babies make us work hard
19:20:13 christymomof2 OBs rely too much on technology instead of relationship and listening
19:20:14 attachedmama what was different about getting a birth certificate?
19:20:22 christymomof2 LOL Claudia...I'm becoming a Doula
19:20:31 claudia Cool, Christy