Wed Sep 29 22:18:30 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:we're getting a slow start here, but i am sure we all have
plenty of discipline issues to get help from kelly with, lol
Wed Sep 29 22:18:41 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i know *I* do!!!
Wed Sep 29 22:18:56 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:having a rough month with my daughter....but i'll get to
that in a bit, lol
Wed Sep 29 22:18:56 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Hi Tina, Beckie and Toothfairy.
Wed Sep 29 22:19:04 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Hi!
Wed Sep 29 22:19:14 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Ditto on the rough month
Wed Sep 29 22:19:54 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:We're two, it's a rough year, LOL
Wed Sep 29 22:20:01 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh and toothfairy....since we're still getting our chats
rolling...not a huge audience yet...we can have the chats in either
of the rooms...i just hadn't thought of moving it yet
Wed Sep 29 22:20:02 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lol
Wed Sep 29 22:20:18 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I hate who even invented ink pens right now
Wed Sep 29 22:20:25 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:we are also two :(
Wed Sep 29 22:20:38 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lol
Wed Sep 29 22:20:44 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ok before we get started.....
Wed Sep 29 22:21:11 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i see most of y'all already discovered the colors
option...that's a great way to help distinguish between all of us
Wed Sep 29 22:21:14 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:This IS a lot smaller than last time.
Wed Sep 29 22:21:18 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:and makes the chat prettier, LOL!!!
Wed Sep 29 22:21:22 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:But that's okay. We can go more in depth.
Wed Sep 29 22:21:24 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:yeah i hope more come later kelly
Wed Sep 29 22:21:43 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i didn't get time to hype this one as much and don't have
the energy right now honestly
Wed Sep 29 22:21:45 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::(
Wed Sep 29 22:22:04 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:hey beckie, wanna post on your groups? i passed it along to
apmomsconnect and fresnoapmommies already
Wed Sep 29 22:22:15 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Sure, let me do that, brgb
Wed Sep 29 22:22:17 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:brb
Wed Sep 29 22:22:38 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:normally i say that we need to keep our side conversations
to private messages....but if we stay small i don't think it will be
an issue
Wed Sep 29 22:23:03 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:but if we need to move to private message...just double
click the person's name in the list at right and it will open a new
window for pm
Wed Sep 29 22:23:15 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:now kelly if you want to introduce yourself...
Wed Sep 29 22:23:32 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i don't think toothfairy has met you before :)
Wed Sep 29 22:23:42 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:unless, toothfairy, you were here under a different name
last time?
Wed Sep 29 22:24:03 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Nope first time here
Wed Sep 29 22:24:12 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ok great! how did you find out about us?
Wed Sep 29 22:24:21 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:(always nice to hear what's working)]
Wed Sep 29 22:24:32 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Done :)
Wed Sep 29 22:24:39 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Posted at Amity and The Posting Place
Wed Sep 29 22:24:41 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:great, thanks beck!
Wed Sep 29 22:24:43 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Originally on the BAbywearing board. I have sat in on a
babywearing chat.
Wed Sep 29 22:24:45 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh perfect, thanks!
Wed Sep 29 22:25:03 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh cool toothfairy, awesome! that babywearing chat has been
going well!
Wed Sep 29 22:25:08 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:OT, what is Amity? That's my dd's name!
Wed Sep 29 22:25:16 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh how funny!
Wed Sep 29 22:26:03 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:How funny! It's an AP positive message board, the lady who
started it is named amity
Wed Sep 29 22:26:31 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Oh, cool! You just don't hear that name often, just
curious.
Wed Sep 29 22:27:17 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:hey kelly, you still there?
Wed Sep 29 22:27:34 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Yes,
Wed Sep 29 22:27:43 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I had to run upstairs for a sec.
Wed Sep 29 22:27:46 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I'm back.
Wed Sep 29 22:27:58 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh ok great!
Wed Sep 29 22:28:23 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:wanna introduce yourself? toothfairy hasn't met ya yet
Wed Sep 29 22:28:30 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:your little intro blurb
Wed Sep 29 22:28:33 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Ok
Wed Sep 29 22:28:57 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:welcome to the positive discipline chat briterfly!
Wed Sep 29 22:29:01 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I am a Positive Discipline Associate which mean that I've
been trained to teach Positive Discipline classes and I can also
train others too.
Wed Sep 29 22:29:06 2004:briterfly
[0/] Msg:hi all - hows it going
Wed Sep 29 22:29:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:kelly is just getting started
Wed Sep 29 22:29:14 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:welcome doubleblessed1
Wed Sep 29 22:29:21 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:to the positive discipline chat
Wed Sep 29 22:29:22 2004:doubleblessed
[0/] Msg:Hello and thank you!
Wed Sep 29 22:29:38 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I have two kids, ages 11 and 8 and I have been a stay at
home mom for 11 years and I've been working part time teaching
parenting classes for the past 4 years.
Wed Sep 29 22:29:40 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well now we are picking up...yay!
Wed Sep 29 22:30:21 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ok, anyone with a question for kelly, please PM me (not
with your question, just that you have one) and i will start a list
Wed Sep 29 22:30:35 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:to PM (private message) you just double click on my name at
right
Wed Sep 29 22:31:00 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I am affiliate with the Positive Discipline philosophy.
Jane Nelsen has written over 13 books including Positive Discipline,
Positive Discipline for Preschoolers and more.
Wed Sep 29 22:31:03 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:woops, there is some confusion about where to meet since i
created the subrooms
Wed Sep 29 22:31:48 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i totally forgot that i said the meeting place would be for
scheduled chats...sorry folks!
Wed Sep 29 22:32:29 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:we can stay here though cuz there's not a lot of people
casually chatting these days yet...we'll start moving over to the
other rooms as things pick up in the next week when mothering starts
sending people over here
Wed Sep 29 22:33:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i would just like to point out to everyone that we have
transcripts pages here on mommychats...and so these chats that are
transcript worthy get logged over there
Wed Sep 29 22:33:37 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Positive Discipline is a little different from traditional
discipline.
Wed Sep 29 22:33:38 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i have the last chat transcript from last month's positive
discipline chat there
Wed Sep 29 22:33:53 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:along with links to jane nelsen's books
Wed Sep 29 22:33:58 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:and link to her site
Wed Sep 29 22:34:07 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:www.positivediscipline.com
Wed Sep 29 22:34:38 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:woah, where's everyone going?
Wed Sep 29 22:34:52 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh welcome back toothfairy!
Wed Sep 29 22:35:00 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Oops, sorry
Wed Sep 29 22:35:01 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well, kelly, beckie has your first question tonite
Wed Sep 29 22:35:06 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:no worries tooth
Wed Sep 29 22:35:08 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Hi Beckie
Wed Sep 29 22:35:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::)
Wed Sep 29 22:35:23 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:may i call you tooth? *laughter*
Wed Sep 29 22:35:35 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:woops
Wed Sep 29 22:35:44 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i think there are internet issues tonite...
Wed Sep 29 22:35:48 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:LOL, you can call me Tamy if you like :)
Wed Sep 29 22:36:06 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::) ok tamy
Wed Sep 29 22:36:44 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well beckie did say that she had toddler problems tonite
and might not be able to stay
Wed Sep 29 22:36:58 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i'm guessing her dd pulled her away...so does anyone else
have a question to start with?
Wed Sep 29 22:37:27 2004:briterfly
[0/] Msg:how do we ask questions
Wed Sep 29 22:37:27 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:I have toddler problems too. But I don't know where to
start!
Wed Sep 29 22:37:33 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh i hear ya
Wed Sep 29 22:37:59 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i could take up the whole chat with all my questions....but
i won't of course, lol!
Wed Sep 29 22:38:18 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well tamy, pick one to get us started, if you can :)
Wed Sep 29 22:38:52 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:OK, how can I curb screaming?
Wed Sep 29 22:39:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:good question....my dd has always been a screamer too
Wed Sep 29 22:39:21 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Is there any pattern to the screaming?
Wed Sep 29 22:39:50 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Is the child screaming for a few reasons in particular?
Wed Sep 29 22:40:09 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:She's almost 2 1/2 yrs. Yes, she screams when I remove her
from a dangerous situation, like climbing on the counter (another
problem)
Wed Sep 29 22:40:29 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Where do you put her when you get her down?
Wed Sep 29 22:40:41 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:On the floor
Wed Sep 29 22:40:51 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Is there an appropriate place for her to climb?
Wed Sep 29 22:41:14 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Only at the park
Wed Sep 29 22:41:36 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:You may want to consider finding something safe for her to
climb on at home.
Wed Sep 29 22:42:00 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:She has a small slide, it has three steps, but is not much
of a challenge for her any more.
Wed Sep 29 22:42:08 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Climbing is such an important part of development. It is
doing "something" that is great for the brain and it seems to be an
essential part of development for toddlers.
Wed Sep 29 22:42:33 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Do you have any good suggestions? Christmas is just around
the corner!
Wed Sep 29 22:42:55 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:So it drives parents nuts!! BUT it's normal and is very
important for brain, coordination and muscle development.
Wed Sep 29 22:43:19 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:So you do have the Little Tikes type slide?
Wed Sep 29 22:43:26 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:Yes
Wed Sep 29 22:43:29 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Because that's usually what I suggest to get.
Wed Sep 29 22:44:01 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Well at this point, when she is climbing where it's not
safe or appropriate, take her to the slide where she CAN slide and
redirect her to climb there.
Wed Sep 29 22:44:42 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:I will try that. The kitchen counters are certainly not
safe in my opinion.
Wed Sep 29 22:44:55 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I don't have any suggestions for holiday gifts though
because I usually suggest the Little Tikes Slide. Another idea is to
pile up some couch pillows, beanbags, bed pillows, etc. and let her
climb on the "mountain"
Wed Sep 29 22:45:17 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:That's a good idea too, we do have a couple of bean bags.
Wed Sep 29 22:45:18 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:This requires some direct supervision though because they
can of course fall off! :)
Wed Sep 29 22:46:39 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:So if she still screams when you redirect, I'd probably
just acknowledge her feelings by saying somethjing like, "You really
wish you could climb on the counters, don't you?" and at the same
time I'd be taking her to show here where she CAN climb.
Wed Sep 29 22:47:16 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:You may have to do this over and over again for her to "get
it." That's okay and that's one of those annoying parts of
parenting. It's exhausting, but we need to redirect over and over
again many times.
Wed Sep 29 22:47:46 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:yeah that's the "fun" part, eh? LOL
Wed Sep 29 22:47:53 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:If she kept screaming, I'd just ignore it and let her
scream still redirecting her as often as needed.
Wed Sep 29 22:48:11 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:even if its rattling your nerves, eh?
Wed Sep 29 22:48:18 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:LOL
Wed Sep 29 22:48:21 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:my dd can make my eardrums literally hurt
Wed Sep 29 22:48:25 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Another idea is to hug her first before getting her down.
Wed Sep 29 22:48:43 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:she doesn't do that so much anymore, since she's nearly 4
though, thank god...now we have whole new sets of issues
Wed Sep 29 22:49:03 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:There's always SOMETHING to keep us on our toes!
Wed Sep 29 22:49:08 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lol
Wed Sep 29 22:49:21 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:I have been trying to hug more when trying to get her to
cooperate and it does seem to help.
Wed Sep 29 22:50:02 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:That's great to hear Toothfairy. When I'm at a loss for
what to do, I can always just hug my child. It helps everyone calm
down.
Wed Sep 29 22:50:28 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:It certainly helped tonight to put her pajamas on.
Wed Sep 29 22:50:49 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well beckie's back!
Wed Sep 29 22:50:53 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i know she had a question
Wed Sep 29 22:50:57 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I'm glad to hear that things are going well at your house!
Wed Sep 29 22:51:06 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Welcome back, Beckie.
Wed Sep 29 22:51:12 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:thank you
Wed Sep 29 22:51:23 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:My daughter is 2 years old, and we are having food issues
Wed Sep 29 22:51:44 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:food, good topic for me too!
Wed Sep 29 22:51:48 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:What type of issues?
Wed Sep 29 22:51:53 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:She is quite verbal, and has signs for most things, and she
often asks for something to eat
Wed Sep 29 22:52:09 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:something specific, but then refuses to eat it when I give
it to her
Wed Sep 29 22:52:17 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Hey tom!
Wed Sep 29 22:52:21 2004:zed
[0/] Msg:::P@Beckie
Wed Sep 29 22:52:22 2004:zed
[0/] Msg:Hiya....
Wed Sep 29 22:52:23 2004:zed
[0/] Msg:LOL
Wed Sep 29 22:52:29 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Wow!! That is interesting.
Wed Sep 29 22:52:31 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:BINGO!
Wed Sep 29 22:52:34 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:We are having a parenting chat, Tom
Wed Sep 29 22:52:41 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I wonder if she is simply developing her language skills.
Wed Sep 29 22:52:45 2004:zed
[0/] Msg:i just stopped in to say hi....
Wed Sep 29 22:52:51 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:What do you usually do after she refuses to eat it?
Wed Sep 29 22:53:03 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:I have tried just showing her the item, to reinforce that
she is usign the right word or sign
Wed Sep 29 22:53:03 2004:zed
[0/] Msg:hows Danielle doin'?
Wed Sep 29 22:53:12 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:That is what we are talking about
Wed Sep 29 22:53:17 2004:zed
[0/] Msg:oh, k....:D
Wed Sep 29 22:53:41 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:She will set it down and wander away
Wed Sep 29 22:53:51 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:and often ask for something else a few minutes later
Wed Sep 29 22:53:56 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:It
Wed Sep 29 22:54:14 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Well, I'm baffled by this. I haven't ever had this ? in a
parenting chat or class.
Wed Sep 29 22:54:24 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:gets fustrating to have banana and yogurt and cheese all
open that she hasnt' eaten
Wed Sep 29 22:54:32 2004:stayinghome
[0/] Msg:my son does that to me all the time too
Wed Sep 29 22:54:49 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:my dd too!!!
Wed Sep 29 22:55:02 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:And she's does eat well, she's healthy, and everything
Wed Sep 29 22:55:06 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:How long has this been going on?
Wed Sep 29 22:55:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:asking for something and then maybe eating one bite, if
that
Wed Sep 29 22:55:14 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:A few months I would say
Wed Sep 29 22:55:21 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Wow! That IS a while.
Wed Sep 29 22:55:37 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:My dd does it too, and honestly, I have wondered if it was
for boredom...just for something to do, like we adults sometimes do.
Wed Sep 29 22:55:44 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I'll bet that DOES get tiresome getting out food and
putting it back and such.
Wed Sep 29 22:55:50 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:She loves to stand in the fridge and point to things and
tell me what they are. But lately she wants them opened and will
sometimes take a bite or two
Wed Sep 29 22:56:02 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Well, I certainly eat out of boredom at times!!
Wed Sep 29 22:56:04 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg::)
Wed Sep 29 22:56:14 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:LOL, great one more bad habit I am passing on??
Wed Sep 29 22:56:20 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lol
Wed Sep 29 22:56:31 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Now I'm wanting to run to my T. Berry Brazelton book and
see what he has to say about food issues.
Wed Sep 29 22:56:33 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:LOL!
Wed Sep 29 22:57:03 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I can remember my kids doing this, but not really alot.
Wed Sep 29 22:57:34 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well beck, ya stumped the expert, LOL
Wed Sep 29 22:57:34 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:It's like she's testing, will mommy give it to me if I ask
Wed Sep 29 22:57:39 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:My dd does it all the time, but mostly when I'm not paying
enough attention to her.
Wed Sep 29 22:57:49 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Let's go the "mistaken goal chart" route. Are you familiar
with the four mistaken goals of misbehavior? I'm not really sure if
this is even a misbehavior or not, but we can try and see how it
works out.
Wed Sep 29 22:58:02 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:with maeven i try to save the food and offer it to her
again later...but usually gets thrown out more often than not
Wed Sep 29 22:58:08 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Yes, I was wondering if it was an attention getting thing.
Wed Sep 29 22:58:11 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Same here Tina
Wed Sep 29 22:58:29 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:She will climb down out of my lap to go to the fridge
though
Wed Sep 29 22:59:08 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Have you tried distracting her or saying that a meal time
is soon? Anything like that?
Wed Sep 29 22:59:46 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Yes, but I guess I do give in too much when it comes to
snacks
Wed Sep 29 22:59:55 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Do you have regular routines for meals?
Wed Sep 29 23:00:02 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:No, we don't
Wed Sep 29 23:00:15 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:daddy has a bad schedule and we often will schedule meals
around that
Wed Sep 29 23:00:37 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Well that's not something that you can really change
easily.
Wed Sep 29 23:00:46 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Dad's schedule I mean.
Wed Sep 29 23:01:07 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Yeah, I try to make breakfast and lunch pretty predictable
Wed Sep 29 23:01:12 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:but dinner is another story
Wed Sep 29 23:01:51 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:One idea is to have a snack basket for her to choose her
own snacks --one basket in the fridge and one in a low cabinet and
put items in the baskets that she is able to open herself.
Wed Sep 29 23:02:07 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:I dont' like to restrict her access to food. If she is
hungry, and wants a healthy snack, which 9 times out of 10 she does,
I don't see any reason not to give it to her
Wed Sep 29 23:02:11 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Oh, that's a great idea!!
Wed Sep 29 23:02:18 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:It WILL be a little challenging to teach a 2 yo. this, but
my kids were doing this at 3 yo.
Wed Sep 29 23:02:19 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:that's something i've been trying to do for awhile....great
idea! i just haven't gotten around to doing it yet...thanks for
reminding me!
Wed Sep 29 23:02:28 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:I just regret teaching her the sign for cookie...
Wed Sep 29 23:02:39 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg::)
Wed Sep 29 23:02:42 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lol
Wed Sep 29 23:02:54 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well as long as you don't have cookies in the house its not
an issue, lol
Wed Sep 29 23:03:09 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Tell Dean that, LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:03:13 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ROFL
Wed Sep 29 23:03:23 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:You can decide which snacks to put in the baskets and help
her to understand that these are HER snacks. Also teach her how to
throw away trash items. She will probably like that part about it.
Wed Sep 29 23:03:46 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:If you only have healthy choices in the baskets, she will
always choose something healthy!
Wed Sep 29 23:03:58 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i actually just recently made it a point to buy those
zipper bags that have the big zippers? just so i can package snacks
for maeven she can open herself
Wed Sep 29 23:04:07 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:She is good at that now, so that is a great idea! I will
have to do that...
Wed Sep 29 23:04:11 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:those tupperware/rubbermaid things are impossible for kids
to open!
Wed Sep 29 23:04:20 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:It really depends on the kid. My kids will let fresh basked
brownies sit on the counter for days and keep walking by them and
other kids will eat everything in site that contains sugar.
Wed Sep 29 23:04:30 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:I can even put it in the bottom of the fridge, with her
little yogurts, I swear she would live on yogurt if I let her
Wed Sep 29 23:04:45 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:yeah i have a section of the door for maeven's drinks
Wed Sep 29 23:05:04 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Beckie, try that out and see if it helps. :)
Wed Sep 29 23:05:05 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i am teaching her to put them back when she's done and i
try to check them periodically to refill
Wed Sep 29 23:05:10 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Thanks Kelly!!
Wed Sep 29 23:05:25 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:We all want to know though, how it works!! :)
Wed Sep 29 23:05:39 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:You're welcome.
Wed Sep 29 23:05:44 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:WBGirl has a question next
Wed Sep 29 23:05:53 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Hi WBGirl.
Wed Sep 29 23:05:55 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:I will let you all know next time!
Wed Sep 29 23:06:05 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:great beckie!
Wed Sep 29 23:06:20 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Hi!
Wed Sep 29 23:06:24 2004:kymaera
[0/] Msg:hello
Wed Sep 29 23:06:37 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Welcome to all those who have joined the chat!
Wed Sep 29 23:06:37 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:I have a three year old daughter and a one year old son -
they get along great but she has started to be very whiny.
Wed Sep 29 23:06:57 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:I think it's just her age but what can I do to stop it?
Wed Sep 29 23:07:00 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:yes welcome! i'm getting everyone on PM when they arrive
Wed Sep 29 23:07:02 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::)
Wed Sep 29 23:07:26 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:It is usually a very difficult adjustment when a younger
sibling starts to walk and is able to move around, get into the
older child's space and toys, etc.
Wed Sep 29 23:07:35 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Typically I tell her whining is not allowed and if she
continues it then I ignore her - she quickly realizes she is getting
nowhere, which is good!
Wed Sep 29 23:08:07 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh i have the whine queen in my house
Wed Sep 29 23:08:17 2004:Toothfairy
[0/] Msg:ditto
Wed Sep 29 23:08:23 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Is she whining words or just whining that long drawn out "ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"
noise?
Wed Sep 29 23:08:25 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:mine's nearly 4...but has always been a huge whiner
Wed Sep 29 23:08:33 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:whining words
Wed Sep 29 23:08:38 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:"But mommy....."
Wed Sep 29 23:08:50 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:I usually do okay with it - but it does get on my nerves
LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:08:55 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:how about whining/crying? oh drives me insane!
Wed Sep 29 23:09:39 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:One way to help her is to focus on what she can do instead
of whining. You can prompt her by using your plain voice and call it
something like your "strong" voice and..
Wed Sep 29 23:10:21 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:start letting her hear the difference in the sound and tone
of your voice. So you can repeat what she wants in your strong voice
to show her how to ask or tell you instead.
Wed Sep 29 23:10:36 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:When she isn't whining and both of you are in a good mood,
you can work with her on this too.
Wed Sep 29 23:10:38 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Just the other day I started telling her she is not to say
"But Mommy" all the time ~ so far it's working once I prompt her so
that is nice
Wed Sep 29 23:10:55 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Play games with her where you say things in different
voices and she has to guess whether you are whining or not.
Wed Sep 29 23:10:56 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:how about "use your talking voice"? that's what i've
used...but it doesn't always work for my stubborn kiddo...but just
wondering if that wording is good
Wed Sep 29 23:11:11 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Oh good idea on the games!
Wed Sep 29 23:11:52 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Sometimes kids just want to be understood so another tool
is to acknowledge her feelings. Use the following formula:
Wed Sep 29 23:12:10 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:You feel _________ about ________ and you wish ________.
Wed Sep 29 23:12:49 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Example: "You feel sad that your brother knocked down your
blocks and you wish that he would stop?"
Wed Sep 29 23:13:32 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Many times that is all kids are looking for. Just some
understanding. It doesn't mean that we have to change what we are
doing to accomodate them all of the time, but just that we let them
know that we understand their frustration, their feelings.
Wed Sep 29 23:13:41 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:That's true
Wed Sep 29 23:14:01 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Many times, that's all you have to do and the child then
feels heard.
Wed Sep 29 23:14:44 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Sometimes when I sense it's needed, I will ask, "Do you
need a hug right now?"
Wed Sep 29 23:15:14 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:So that's another thing you can try. The hug offers
understanding as well as the way of acknowleding her feelings (that
I wrote above.)
Wed Sep 29 23:15:30 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Most of the time it has to do with her brother or wanting
something that she can't have.....she is very good about asking for
or just coming up and hugging etc.
Wed Sep 29 23:16:16 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Ah, yes acknowledging feelings might be the thing to try.
You REALLY wish you could have that giant chocolate cake right now,
don't you?
Wed Sep 29 23:17:10 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:giant chocolate cake, lol
Wed Sep 29 23:17:22 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Then sometimes if the mood feels right, you can lead that
into a silly game such as, "How may chocolate cakes woud fit in a
wheel barrow?" or anything that is silly.
Wed Sep 29 23:17:28 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:Don't talk about cake, LOL!!
Wed Sep 29 23:17:40 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Oh, sorry., I don't really even like cake.
Wed Sep 29 23:17:41 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Whoops!
Wed Sep 29 23:17:46 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:LOL beck
Wed Sep 29 23:18:07 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:just don't talk about oreos, lol
Wed Sep 29 23:18:24 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:I don't even like those either. I'm glad you told me!!
Wed Sep 29 23:18:35 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:18:49 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:18:54 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Great idea on the games, I'm going to try that soon!
Wed Sep 29 23:19:00 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:About things with her little brother, sometimes I would say
to my older child, "It's really hard being a big brother sometimes,
isn't it?
Wed Sep 29 23:20:09 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:So maybe try to deal with her feelings a little bit and see
if that helps since her brother is at the age where he is mobile and
is probably invading her space.
Wed Sep 29 23:20:32 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:Oh yeah, he follows her all over the place
Wed Sep 29 23:20:57 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:I still don't like it when my brother does that, and I am
33 and he is 31, LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:21:06 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:21:12 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:silly silly
Wed Sep 29 23:21:18 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ok kelly, i have a question
Wed Sep 29 23:21:24 2004:beckie
[0/] Msg:You saw him, he followed me here, LOL
Wed Sep 29 23:21:30 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ROFL
Wed Sep 29 23:21:31 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg:Okay Tina.
Wed Sep 29 23:21:32 2004:WBGirl
[0/] Msg:lol
Wed Sep 29 23:21:34 2004:PDMod_Kelly
[0/] Msg::)
Wed Sep 29 23:21:47 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:if i can figure out how to narrow it down to ONE
question...
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