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Chat topic: Taming Temper Tantrums

8/14/06

9 mamas in attendance

20:03:03 Host_Colleen Welcome to this week's Positive Parenting chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
20:03:19 Host_Colleen ;)
20:03:19 minicooper me too... 2.5 years old is getting touch
20:03:24 minicooper oops tough even
20:03:41 Host_Colleen I ready when you are
20:03:53 Webmama_Tina you going with the moderated chat?
20:03:58 Webmama_Tina you can do whatever you like
20:03:59 Webmama_Tina :)
20:04:06 Webmama_Tina i just want to follow your lead on how you want your chat to be
20:04:11 Webmama_Tina :)
20:04:33 Webmama_Tina ?
20:04:35 Webmama_Tina \:)
20:04:37 Webmama_Tina :)
20:05:19 Host_Colleen i guess what is the difference lol
20:05:33 Host_Colleen still new to this myself
20:05:38 Webmama_Tina :)
20:05:47 Webmama_Tina usually if there's not many people, you can just go casual...
20:05:50 Webmama_Tina but its up to you
20:05:54 Webmama_Tina ok so shall i ask my question?
20:05:57 Host_Colleen ok let's go casual
20:06:00 Host_Colleen yes ask away!
20:06:01 Webmama_Tina or give my scenario
20:06:02 Webmama_Tina ok
20:06:08 Webmama_Tina so my daughter is 5.5yrs old...
20:06:17 Webmama_Tina and most of the tantrums i read about in the books are for 1 and 2 yr olds
20:06:19 Webmama_Tina this is way different
20:06:42 Webmama_Tina she will completely lose control a couple times a week...usually not super frequent but they are horrendous
20:06:47 Webmama_Tina she only does this at home thank god
20:07:15 Webmama_Tina but when she loses it she's screaming like a maniac and i have to physically take her to her bed to have her lay down to calm down
20:07:26 Webmama_Tina i'm ready to go ape on her when she does this so that's all i can think of to do at this point
20:07:35 Webmama_Tina i don't want to yell or hit
20:07:42 Host_Colleen what triggers it?
20:07:44 Webmama_Tina although i don't believe in time outs...that's essentially what i do
20:07:53 Webmama_Tina well it could be anything really...but usually frustration
20:07:59 Webmama_Tina she has a baby brother and he annoys her
20:08:08 Webmama_Tina and she's highly irritable
20:08:22 Host_Colleen what happened right before the last one?
20:08:24 Webmama_Tina it usually seems to happen at a time of day when she tends to be out of sorts
20:08:27 Webmama_Tina tired, hungry, etc
20:08:32 Webmama_Tina lemme think...umm...oh yes
20:08:35 Host_Colleen nodding
20:08:36 Webmama_Tina she hit her brother
20:08:49 Webmama_Tina i tell ya i don't know what to do with her when she hits!
20:08:57 Webmama_Tina she never was a hitter til just recently
20:09:04 Webmama_Tina anyway i got angry and she lost control
20:09:14 Host_Colleen very frustrating for you AND her
20:09:15 Webmama_Tina i suspect she was also ashamed of herself
20:09:54 Webmama_Tina she tends to freak out if she's feeling bad about herself and she doesn't want any consoling or holding or anything...but i was angry so i was trying to figure out what to do and she went freako really fast and just lost it
20:10:57 Host_Colleen sometimes hugging her (even though she may resist) is the best thing you can do.
20:11:17 Host_Colleen if she is talking (or screaming) and you can understand her
20:11:25 Host_Colleen you want to repeat what she is saying
20:11:51 Webmama_Tina sorry
20:11:55 Webmama_Tina baby disappeared
20:12:01 Webmama_Tina had to find him...found him with a balloon!
20:12:02 Host_Colleen He took my block!""
20:12:03 Webmama_Tina bad mama, lol
20:12:07 Host_Colleen lol
20:12:20 Webmama_Tina ok repeat what she is saying...
20:12:29 Host_Colleen then put names to her feelings
20:12:32 Webmama_Tina right
20:12:36 Host_Colleen You are frustrated!
20:12:42 Host_Colleen You are angry!
20:13:01 Webmama_Tina i tell her...its ok to be angry but its not ok to hit
20:13:07 Webmama_Tina we've talked about hitting pillows, etc...
20:13:23 Host_Colleen Hug her tight even if she resists - not to restrain just to reasuure
20:13:26 Host_Colleen that is great
20:13:30 Webmama_Tina she just freaks out when she gets disciplined on anything and then you just can't do anything til she calms down...
20:13:37 Host_Colleen sounds like you know a lot about positive parenting!
20:13:49 Webmama_Tina she just will not even do a thing that i suggest to try to calm her down
20:13:55 Webmama_Tina its always i caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan't""
20:14:22 Host_Colleen then you You can't! You feel like you can't! You feel helpless and sad!""
20:14:22 Webmama_Tina what exactly do you suggest to do as a consequence for her hitting her baby brother? (he's one0
20:14:31 Webmama_Tina i don't believe in punishment but i feel like i should be doing something
20:14:35 Webmama_Tina ok
20:14:36 Host_Colleen why did she hit?
20:14:38 MandMmom sometimes I have to count to 10 WITH my daughter -- and sometimes a few times in a row.
20:14:44 Webmama_Tina oh he pulled the blanket off her fort
20:14:54 Host_Colleen ok
20:14:55 Webmama_Tina she got enraged and hit him
20:15:01 Webmama_Tina i can totally understand her feelings...and i tell her that
20:15:06 Host_Colleen focus on a solution to her problem
20:15:14 Host_Colleen what is her name?
20:15:14 Webmama_Tina ok
20:15:16 Webmama_Tina maeven
20:15:41 Host_Colleen maeven, I see that you are frustrated b/c the baby pulled the blanket off your fort
20:16:03 Webmama_Tina she's classic as far as her feelings that baby is annoying and in the way and mommy and daddy pay more attention to him than her..
20:16:07 Webmama_Tina ok
20:16:08 Host_Colleen there is a solution to every problem . . . what do you think the solution to this one is
20:16:24 Webmama_Tina ok at that moment she won't be reasoned with cuz she lost control almost immediately
20:16:26 Host_Colleen maybe we could build him his own fort?
20:16:34 Webmama_Tina so should i just do the holding until she calms
20:16:37 Webmama_Tina and then talk?
20:16:44 Host_Colleen ok
20:16:45 Webmama_Tina even though she just hit her brother?
20:17:03 Webmama_Tina and he's screaming and she's screaming...ay yi yi...mommy's losing it, lol
20:17:05 Host_Colleen since controlling the outbreak needs to be done before we can more on
20:17:25 Webmama_Tina yeah as soon as she gets caught doing something wrong she tends to tantrum
20:17:31 Host_Colleen move on  let's talk about relaxation
20:17:34 Webmama_Tina like i said, i think she is ashamed of herself
20:17:38 Webmama_Tina ok
20:17:53 Host_Colleen that is understandable first borns tend to be perfectionists esp girls
20:17:58 Webmama_Tina oh heck ya
20:18:01 Webmama_Tina she's just like me
20:18:06 Host_Colleen ;)
20:18:20 Host_Colleen so you should talk with her about relaxation
20:18:34 Webmama_Tina highly irritable too...i was the same way with my bro...and i tell her that all the time...i tell her that's what baby brothers do...they annoy you...you have to learn to not let it annoy you
20:18:37 Webmama_Tina ok
20:18:39 Host_Colleen before bedtime tell he a story about a little girl who get SO MAD at her baby brother
20:18:50 Webmama_Tina ok that's an idea i've not tried...telling a story
20:19:05 Host_Colleen and this little girl has magic powers
20:19:13 Host_Colleen they are called relaxing breaths
20:19:18 Webmama_Tina i have talked to her about relaxing, calming, counting, hitting pillows, breathing deep, etc...she literally cannot do any of these things in the heat of the moment
20:19:26 Host_Colleen she smells the flowers and then blows out the candles
20:19:37 Host_Colleen anytime she is about to get frustrated
20:19:57 MandMmom how old is maeven?
20:20:05 Webmama_Tina once she loses it she won't try anything and believe me, i've tried to get her to breathe with me, etc...she just says she can't and that she can't stop crying...i tell her to cry as much as she needs to to get it out
20:20:11 Webmama_Tina maeven will be 6 in nov
20:20:34 Webmama_Tina i think i should write your story down, colleen, lol
20:20:37 Webmama_Tina good story
20:21:21 Host_Colleen tell her that sometimes this little girl get SO MAD that she can't stop crying
20:21:28 Webmama_Tina ok
20:22:16 Webmama_Tina so do i come back to the issue of the hitting?
20:22:18 Host_Colleen and that she called a friend to help her figure out a solution to her problem And her friend sadi . . .(ask maeven to fill in the blanks here)
20:22:32 Webmama_Tina oh good
20:22:49 MandMmom I have a 5 yr old girl & a 3 yr old boy, and I find that rewarding good behavior really helps with her --  I am becoming known for my many reward charts" where she gets a star sticker when she does something good, and when the chart is filled up she gets"
20:22:52 Cas is this the right place?
20:22:54 Host_Colleen maybe she will surprise you and help herself figure out a solution
20:23:04 minicooper you are here Cas
20:23:11 Webmama_Tina oh that would be awesome
20:23:12 Host_Colleen hi Cas!
20:23:14 MandMmom a reward.  This may help her want to try and work out her anger more
20:23:16 Cas hello
20:23:36 Host_Colleen Rewards work well for some children
20:23:56 MandMmom The chart thing worked great for stopping sucking her thumb -- but her brother doesn't seem to care as much as she does.
20:24:09 minicooper no offense but i'm not big on rewarding good behaviour, though it's true it works for some kids
20:24:19 Webmama_Tina i have such mixed feelings about external motivations like punishment and rewards...
20:24:29 Host_Colleen but they do not help find a solution to the problem
20:24:35 Webmama_Tina right
20:24:44 Webmama_Tina and i want to teach her internal motivation
20:25:05 Webmama_Tina just not sure exactly how to do that yet
20:25:07 minicooper kinda sets them to expect things when they do good stuff and when they get older... it doesn't work that way in life
20:25:41 Host_Colleen as far as revisiting the hittinh Tina
20:25:52 Host_Colleen try to do this in the story too
20:26:02 Cas but some try to get any kind of attention and good attention is better than bad behavior attention
20:26:24 Webmama_Tina ok
20:26:25 Host_Colleen maybe another story during bath time
20:26:32 Host_Colleen or lunch time
20:26:35 MandMmom I only do the rewards for something big, and they have to work really hard to get it -- that way they may value it more and be proud of themselves for accomplishing something, and maybe learning something at the same time
20:26:36 Webmama_Tina so just let it go at the moment?
20:27:06 Webmama_Tina god that's so hard when you come from a culture of punishment, ya know? i keep feeling like i'm being permissive to let her get away with it...
20:27:14 Host_Colleen i would let it go at the moment because physiologically the brain can not learn when it is in distress
20:27:19 Webmama_Tina but at the same time i don't want to resort to punishments....
20:27:27 Webmama_Tina ok that makes sense
20:27:32 minicooper i'm the same way Tina
20:28:07 Host_Colleen when there is stress the hormone that is produced actually suppresses the ability to retain a memory
20:28:12 Webmama_Tina i do believe in consequences though...but i like logical and natural consequences...they make sense...its times like hitting that i can't for the life of me think of a logical or natural consequence, you know?
20:28:23 Webmama_Tina oh i didn't know that...lemme tell my dh
20:28:32 Host_Colleen MandMmom that make sense
20:28:50 Host_Colleen that way the child is working towards a goal too
20:29:30 MandMmom I also let my family & friends know, so they can praise them when they do well, and help motivate them...  it makes them feel special
20:30:02 Host_Colleen so Tina do you feel armed with some ammo for tomorrow?
20:30:07 Host_Colleen ;)
20:30:30 Webmama_Tina i do! i've been relaying to my dh, who just got home
20:30:41 Webmama_Tina we've both been at whit's end lately because we don't know what to do
20:30:55 Webmama_Tina but do i let it go when she's not freaking out?
20:31:06 Host_Colleen let what go the hitting?
20:31:08 Webmama_Tina i mean there are times when she hits and doesn't have an immediate tantrum
20:31:10 Webmama_Tina yes
20:31:27 Host_Colleen this is a good time to do the other suggestion
20:31:30 Webmama_Tina i mean how do i address the hitting if she's not freaking out....
20:31:39 Webmama_Tina other suggestion?
20:31:47 Webmama_Tina oh talking with her
20:31:50 Webmama_Tina ok
20:32:06 Webmama_Tina reflecting back her feelings?
20:32:25 Host_Colleen i am looking for it to copy and paste but I will just retype
20:32:40 Webmama_Tina oh i can scroll up
20:32:51 Host_Colleen basically just telling her that there is a solution to every problem
20:33:13 Host_Colleen hitting is not an appropriate solution
20:33:25 Host_Colleen Maeven what can we do to resolve this problem
20:33:31 Webmama_Tina you know, i was a preschool teacher and used that technique for other people's kids for a couple years...i just have forgotten how to do that...thanks for the reminder, lol
20:33:39 Host_Colleen There is a solution to every problem""
20:33:51 Host_Colleen that should be painted on our walls lol
20:33:56 Host_Colleen we say it so much here
20:34:03 Webmama_Tina that's a good thing to say...i've never looked at it that way
20:34:11 Host_Colleen ask her what a good solution would be
20:34:22 Webmama_Tina ok and if she says she doesn't know? because she will
20:34:23 Webmama_Tina lol
20:34:24 Host_Colleen helping baby make his own fort?
20:34:41 Webmama_Tina then i can give her ideas, right?
20:34:43 Host_Colleen or asking Mommy for help
20:34:45 Host_Colleen yup
20:35:00 Host_Colleen Help me Mama!" is another frequent saying at our house"
20:35:02 Webmama_Tina ok and over time she'll be able to come up with answers, gotcha
20:35:05 Host_Colleen I have a 1 & 3 yr ols
20:35:09 Host_Colleen yes
20:35:16 Webmama_Tina ok thank you so much!
20:35:23 Host_Colleen Teach her above all to say Help me Mama!""
20:35:28 Webmama_Tina oh she does that
20:35:30 Webmama_Tina a LOT
20:35:38 Host_Colleen And then pull yourself away and help as quickly as you can
20:35:43 Webmama_Tina its a worn out saying here...i get tired of hearing it, lol
20:35:56 Host_Colleen so that she trusts you will come
20:36:00 Host_Colleen well then that is good
20:36:00 Webmama_Tina yeah i need to do that
20:36:05 Webmama_Tina i haven't been so good at that in awhile
20:36:09 Webmama_Tina i make her wait a lot
20:36:10 Webmama_Tina a LOT
20:36:13 Host_Colleen and if you are tired of that come up with anothersafe" word"
20:36:19 Webmama_Tina oh maybe so
20:36:30 Webmama_Tina that's a good idea...we'll create a new phrase
20:36:41 Cas i have a situation from a friend if anyone has any ideas.......brb
20:36:45 Webmama_Tina ok sorry to monopolize colleen, mamas....y'all have questions too i'm sure
20:36:50 Host_Colleen something funny -
20:36:55 Host_Colleen like Hairball!
20:37:05 Host_Colleen Humor always lightens up the situation
20:37:15 Webmama_Tina yeah funny is good...we have a code word for her to interrupt with...cuz i often will get caught up on the phone and not listen to her
20:37:22 Host_Colleen I always get frustrated when my son says Mama, Mama, Mama over and over
20:37:35 Webmama_Tina so now she says pookie!!!" and it helps jar me out of my phone conversation to notice her, lol"
20:37:41 Cas ok back
20:37:57 Host_Colleen so when I start to feel frustrated I tell him I will not answer to Mama anymore my new name is fluffy head
20:37:59 Webmama_Tina yeah she really does well with playful parenting...i need to finish that book
20:38:05 Webmama_Tina ROFL
20:38:08 Host_Colleen I say I will not answer no another!""
20:38:09 Webmama_Tina that is hysterical!!!!
20:38:17 Host_Colleen We both laugh and the tension breaks
20:38:18 Webmama_Tina oh i have to remember that!
20:38:29 Webmama_Tina oh that is totally from the playful parenting guy, lol
20:38:32 Host_Colleen oh Playful Parenting ROCKS!
20:38:37 Host_Colleen Larry is AWESOME!!
20:38:43 Webmama_Tina yeah he's been here a couple times
20:38:45 Webmama_Tina great transcripts
20:39:03 Webmama_Tina cas, feel free to post your situation...i'm not going to monopolize colleen anymore :)
20:39:12 Cas lol
20:39:16 Host_Colleen good luck Tina!
20:39:20 Host_Colleen keep me posted
20:39:22 Cas was waiting until you were done
20:39:28 Host_Colleen go ahead Cas
20:40:22 Cas my friend has a 3 year old like i do but today she said he threw a chair at her and has started to run her over
20:40:29 Webmama_Tina if anyone wants to read the playful parenting transcripts: http://mommychats.com/mothering/index.htm
20:40:42 Cas my 3 year old is very well mannered
20:40:43 Webmama_Tina he's on there and also: http://mommychats.com/transcripts/index.htm
20:40:47 Host_Colleen Come join our weekly Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat, led by Host_Housepoet of www.breastfeedingisnormal.com, every Wednesday: 9-10am pacific, 10-11am mountain, 11am-12pm central, 12-1pm eastern. In the Breastfeeding" chat room."
20:40:52 Cas so wasnt' sure what to tell her
20:40:58 Cas and she is looking for ideas
20:41:11 Host_Colleen threw a chair?
20:41:17 Cas yes
20:41:39 Host_Colleen run her over how?
20:42:18 Cas not sure of the whole story but she was saying that he is starting to get violent
20:42:49 Cas he tells her how its going to be
20:42:54 Host_Colleen it is hard for me to help without knowing more info I encourage her to email me Colleen@mybabyandmore.com
20:42:57 Cas what he will and won't do
20:43:13 Cas she doesn't have a computer so hard for her to do that
20:43:19 Host_Colleen this is quite normal - tell mom what he will and wont do
20:43:27 Host_Colleen she could call me ;)
20:43:36 Cas i can pass your number to her
20:43:40 Host_Colleen but the violence is not
20:43:54 Host_Colleen r his parents together?
20:44:02 Cas no
20:44:14 Host_Colleen sure email me off list and I will send you my number
20:44:16 Cas she is with someone else and they are both at a loss
20:44:17 Host_Colleen ok
20:44:28 Cas she hasn't been getting any sleep the last couple of days
20:44:34 Host_Colleen well sometimes this type of separation can cause a lot of anger
20:44:38 Webmama_Tina could he be reacting to the new boyfriend?
20:44:59 Cas don't think so since they have been together for some time
20:45:16 Webmama_Tina oh
20:45:19 Webmama_Tina nevermind, lol
20:45:21 Host_Colleen is there issues between his biological mom and dad?
20:45:56 Cas they don't get along and she has said there are problems in how the family deals with the child
20:46:12 Host_Colleen which family?
20:46:44 Cas the grandparents
20:46:52 Host_Colleen when there are issues in the family like this it is best for the child, the inncocent, to be brought to a counselor.
20:47:12 Host_Colleen At this age in development children are ego centric
20:47:27 Host_Colleen This means that he may be blaming himself for everything that goes on
20:47:29 Cas not sure if she has talked to one yet or not but she was talking about one today
20:47:36 Host_Colleen good
20:47:40 Host_Colleen it is best
20:47:47 Host_Colleen for the little guy
20:47:55 Cas i thought i might have problems with my son after his daddy left
20:48:00 Host_Colleen and everyone else involved
20:48:02 Cas but he has been an angel
20:48:16 Host_Colleen :angel:
20:48:23 Host_Colleen :)
20:48:42 Host_Colleen anyone else have a question?
20:48:57 Cas my ex left over 3 months ago but only had one incident
20:48:57 Host_Colleen Cas - please email me off list
20:49:09 Webmama_Tina maybe you could share where you got your education from, colleen? i'm curious. :)
20:50:22 Webmama_Tina cas, perhaps you dodged a bullet...but it is possible to come up later too...but you probably know that already
20:50:35 Cas i have talked to a counselor
20:50:49 Host_Colleen I am the oldest of 30 grandchildren. My grandmother was a foster parent to over 300 babies in my lifetime. I have my degrees in Earlychildhood Education and Psychology. I was a preschool teacher for several years before I recevived my REAL education
20:50:49 Webmama_Tina ah, good. that's always good i think. :)
20:50:51 Cas when my son said he didn't want to talk to daddy cause he left
20:50:56 Host_Colleen My two children
20:51:05 Host_Colleen Wes is 3 and Claire is almost 18 months
20:51:24 Webmama_Tina wow, very dedicated grandmother!
20:51:27 Host_Colleen that is true Tina
20:51:40 Cas children will give you an education alright
20:51:44 Webmama_Tina heck ya
20:51:47 Host_Colleen it may come up laer so just keep that in the back of your mind.
20:51:53 Cas i do
20:52:19 Cas i tried to use toys to role play and get more info but he refuses to talk about it more
20:52:25 Cas so i dropped it for now
20:52:32 Host_Colleen Next Positive Parenting Chat will be on the 28th
20:52:41 Host_Colleen Topic is Transition Tricks
20:52:54 Host_Colleen In other words getting those kids to leave the party
20:52:59 Host_Colleen lol!
20:53:07 Webmama_Tina i thought i knew alot because i got my bachelor's in child development...  *wrong*
20:53:21 Cas lol
20:53:26 Host_Colleen it is always harder with your own
20:53:32 Host_Colleen You are an AWESOME Mama!
20:53:51 Host_Colleen I think sometme knowing too much becomes a thorn in our sife
20:53:58 Host_Colleen sometimes
20:54:02 Host_Colleen side
20:54:07 Host_Colleen ugh! long day
20:54:23 Webmama_Tina yeah i knew that i didn't know it ALL, but i thought i knew more than i actually did...LOL...did that make sense?
20:54:33 Webmama_Tina then i became a mom and each year i'm learning more and more i don't know...
20:54:35 Webmama_Tina but i'm learning!
20:54:41 Host_Colleen Anyone else have a quick ? before we wrap up?
20:54:48 Cas as long as you keep learning that is what matters
20:54:52 Webmama_Tina yup
20:54:56 Host_Colleen yes, Tina bu it is important for Moms to be gentle with themselves
20:55:07 Webmama_Tina yes it is, you're right...you always remind me of that, lol
20:55:29 Host_Colleen we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be the best" when in reality we already are doing a darn good job!"
20:55:41 Webmama_Tina i do give myself more breaks these days because i know its just not possible to do it all and to do it all perfectly. :)  gawd knows i have tried!
20:55:58 Cas in my opinion no one can take care of my child better than i can
20:56:00 Webmama_Tina i have a friend who makes me feel very judged...that is hard
20:56:07 Webmama_Tina absolutely, cas!
20:56:21 Webmama_Tina someone else has to have a question for colleen!
20:56:22 Cas so many try to tell me what is best
20:56:26 Webmama_Tina y'all are being very quiet!
20:56:30 Webmama_Tina chelsea?
20:56:35 mommynature Okay, I just came in and realized I've come at the end.  Ooops!  I'll make a note on my computer with the time for your next chat.
20:57:00 Host_Colleen Don't forget to check out my children's book about breastfeeding, Near Mama's Heart. www.NearMamasHeart.com
20:57:18 Webmama_Tina oh very cool!
20:57:22 Webmama_Tina there's not many of those
20:57:28 Webmama_Tina and one of the ones i have i don't like...ugly drawings
20:57:37 Cas lol
20:57:44 Host_Colleen mommynature do you have a ?
20:57:49 mommynature So true!  I even shared it at our last LLL meeting!
20:58:00 Host_Colleen I can stay for a little while longer
20:58:10 Host_Colleen thank mommy!
20:58:38 Webmama_Tina colleen, is it a board book or a paper one?
20:58:48 Host_Colleen paper for now
20:58:51 mommynature Well, not really.  Just trying to get through each day really with my two.
20:58:57 Host_Colleen and in a few months it will be in Spanich too!
20:59:07 Host_Colleen Spanish that is
20:59:10 Webmama_Tina i hear ya mommynature
20:59:12 Webmama_Tina me too
20:59:18 Cas you have had a long day
20:59:22 mommynature I want a copy of the Spanish version as well!  We are trying to learn it here.
20:59:41 Host_Colleen cool!
20:59:56 Host_Colleen it is still in the translation stage
21:00:14 Webmama_Tina well dh wants me to help with dinner now...gotta git...but thanks again colleen! i've told him about the story idea...he does bedtime routine and i think he'll use that tonite...how very waldorf/enki of you!
21:00:15 Webmama_Tina :)
21:00:16 Host_Colleen Maryland WIC ordered 2200 in Eng and 800 in Spanish the other day
21:00:37 mommynature AWESOME!  Congrats!
21:00:39 Host_Colleen great Tina! take care!
21:00:40 Webmama_Tina wowee!
21:00:46 Host_Colleen my dh is cooking too
21:00:52 Host_Colleen Although it is 10 pm here
21:00:54 MandMmom That's great!
21:01:00 Webmama_Tina ok take care!
21:01:08 Host_Colleen he just got in from work as usuaal
21:02:04 Host_Colleen Well if there are not anymore pressing issues
21:02:07 Host_Colleen I will get going
21:02:13 Host_Colleen 'Thank you to everyone who came!
21:02:17 Cas thank you for your time
21:02:31 mommynature Thanks!  I look forward to the next one!
21:02:32 Host_Colleen Please email me off list if you need anything! Colleen@mybabyandmore.com
21:02:40 MandMmom Thanks!
21:02:45 Host_Colleen See you on the 28th
21:02:53 Host_Colleen goon night

 

 

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