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Chat topic: Taming Temper Tantrums

8/14/06

9 mamas in attendance

20:03:03 Host_Colleen Welcome to this week's Positive Parenting chat! This is a moderated chat. Please make sure you read and fully understand the Moderated Chat Instructions before participating in this chat. Instructions can be found here: http://www.mommychats.com/modrules.htm ...A Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called."
20:03:19 Host_Colleen ;)
20:03:19 minicooper me too... 2.5 years old is getting touch
20:03:24 minicooper oops tough even
20:03:41 Host_Colleen I ready when you are
20:03:53 Webmama_Tina you going with the moderated chat?
20:03:58 Webmama_Tina you can do whatever you like
20:03:59 Webmama_Tina :)
20:04:06 Webmama_Tina i just want to follow your lead on how you want your chat to be
20:04:11 Webmama_Tina :)
20:04:33 Webmama_Tina ?
20:04:35 Webmama_Tina \:)
20:04:37 Webmama_Tina :)
20:05:19 Host_Colleen i guess what is the difference lol
20:05:33 Host_Colleen still new to this myself
20:05:38 Webmama_Tina :)
20:05:47 Webmama_Tina usually if there's not many people, you can just go casual...
20:05:50 Webmama_Tina but its up to you
20:05:54 Webmama_Tina ok so shall i ask my question?
20:05:57 Host_Colleen ok let's go casual
20:06:00 Host_Colleen yes ask away!
20:06:01 Webmama_Tina or give my scenario
20:06:02 Webmama_Tina ok
20:06:08 Webmama_Tina so my daughter is 5.5yrs old...
20:06:17 Webmama_Tina and most of the tantrums i read about in the books are for 1 and 2 yr olds
20:06:19 Webmama_Tina this is way different
20:06:42 Webmama_Tina she will completely lose control a couple times a week...usually not super frequent but they are horrendous
20:06:47 Webmama_Tina she only does this at home thank god
20:07:15 Webmama_Tina but when she loses it she's screaming like a maniac and i have to physically take her to her bed to have her lay down to calm down
20:07:26 Webmama_Tina i'm ready to go ape on her when she does this so that's all i can think of to do at this point
20:07:35 Webmama_Tina i don't want to yell or hit
20:07:42 Host_Colleen what triggers it?
20:07:44 Webmama_Tina although i don't believe in time outs...that's essentially what i do
20:07:53 Webmama_Tina well it could be anything really...but usually frustration
20:07:59 Webmama_Tina she has a baby brother and he annoys her
20:08:08 Webmama_Tina and she's highly irritable
20:08:22 Host_Colleen what happened right before the last one?
20:08:24 Webmama_Tina it usually seems to happen at a time of day when she tends to be out of sorts
20:08:27 Webmama_Tina tired, hungry, etc
20:08:32 Webmama_Tina lemme think...umm...oh yes
20:08:35 Host_Colleen nodding
20:08:36 Webmama_Tina she hit her brother
20:08:49 Webmama_Tina i tell ya i don't know what to do with her when she hits!
20:08:57 Webmama_Tina she never was a hitter til just recently
20:09:04 Webmama_Tina anyway i got angry and she lost control
20:09:14 Host_Colleen very frustrating for you AND her
20:09:15 Webmama_Tina i suspect she was also ashamed of herself
20:09:54 Webmama_Tina she tends to freak out if she's feeling bad about herself and she doesn't want any consoling or holding or anything...but i was angry so i was trying to figure out what to do and she went freako really fast and just lost it
20:10:57 Host_Colleen sometimes hugging her (even though she may resist) is the best thing you can do.
20:11:17 Host_Colleen if she is talking (or screaming) and you can understand her
20:11:25 Host_Colleen you want to repeat what she is saying
20:11:51 Webmama_Tina sorry
20:11:55 Webmama_Tina baby disappeared
20:12:01 Webmama_Tina had to find him...found him with a balloon!
20:12:02 Host_Colleen He took my block!""
20:12:03 Webmama_Tina bad mama, lol
20:12:07 Host_Colleen lol
20:12:20 Webmama_Tina ok repeat what she is saying...
20:12:29 Host_Colleen then put names to her feelings
20:12:32 Webmama_Tina right
20:12:36 Host_Colleen You are frustrated!
20:12:42 Host_Colleen You are angry!
20:13:01 Webmama_Tina i tell her...its ok to be angry but its not ok to hit
20:13:07 Webmama_Tina we've talked about hitting pillows, etc...
20:13:23 Host_Colleen Hug her tight even if she resists - not to restrain just to reasuure
20:13:26 Host_Colleen that is great
20:13:30 Webmama_Tina she just freaks out when she gets disciplined on anything and then you just can't do anything til she calms down...
20:13:37 Host_Colleen sounds like you know a lot about positive parenting!
20:13:49 Webmama_Tina she just will not even do a thing that i suggest to try to calm her down
20:13:55 Webmama_Tina its always i caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan't""
20:14:22 Host_Colleen then you You can't! You feel like you can't! You feel helpless and sad!""
20:14:22 Webmama_Tina what exactly do you suggest to do as a consequence for her hitting her baby brother? (he's one0
20:14:31 Webmama_Tina i don't believe in punishment but i feel like i should be doing something
20:14:35 Webmama_Tina ok
20:14:36 Host_Colleen why did she hit?
20:14:38 MandMmom sometimes I have to count to 10 WITH my daughter -- and sometimes a few times in a row.
20:14:44 Webmama_Tina oh he pulled the blanket off her fort
20:14:54 Host_Colleen ok
20:14:55 Webmama_Tina she got enraged and hit him
20:15:01 Webmama_Tina i can totally understand her feelings...and i tell her that
20:15:06 Host_Colleen focus on a solution to her problem
20:15:14 Host_Colleen what is her name?
20:15:14 Webmama_Tina ok
20:15:16 Webmama_Tina maeven
20:15:41 Host_Colleen maeven, I see that you are frustrated b/c the baby pulled the blanket off your fort
20:16:03 Webmama_Tina she's classic as far as her feelings that baby is annoying and in the way and mommy and daddy pay more attention to him than her..
20:16:07 Webmama_Tina ok
20:16:08 Host_Colleen there is a solution to every problem . . . what do you think the solution to this one is
20:16:24 Webmama_Tina ok at that moment she won't be reasoned with cuz she lost control almost immediately
20:16:26 Host_Colleen maybe we could build him his own fort?
20:16:34 Webmama_Tina so should i just do the holding until she calms
20:16:37 Webmama_Tina and then talk?
20:16:44 Host_Colleen ok
20:16:45 Webmama_Tina even though she just hit her brother?
20:17:03 Webmama_Tina and he's screaming and she's screaming...ay yi yi...mommy's losing it, lol
20:17:05 Host_Colleen since controlling the outbreak needs to be done before we can more on
20:17:25 Webmama_Tina yeah as soon as she gets caught doing something wrong she tends to tantrum
20:17:31 Host_Colleen move on  let's talk about relaxation
20:17:34 Webmama_Tina like i said, i think she is ashamed of herself
20:17:38 Webmama_Tina ok
20:17:53 Host_Colleen that is understandable first borns tend to be perfectionists esp girls
20:17:58 Webmama_Tina oh heck ya
20:18:01 Webmama_Tina she's just like me
20:18:06 Host_Colleen ;)
20:18:20 Host_Colleen so you should talk with her about relaxation
20:18:34 Webmama_Tina highly irritable too...i was the same way with my bro...and i tell her that all the time...i tell her that's what baby brothers do...they annoy you...you have to learn to not let it annoy you
20:18:37 Webmama_Tina ok
20:18:39 Host_Colleen before bedtime tell he a story about a little girl who get SO MAD at her baby brother
20:18:50 Webmama_Tina ok that's an idea i've not tried...telling a story
20:19:05 Host_Colleen and this little girl has magic powers
20:19:13 Host_Colleen they are called relaxing breaths