| 21:12:50 |
echo |
Where is everyone tongith? |
| 21:13:09 |
echo |
Maybe the holidays and fireplaces
are keeping everyone away? |
| 21:13:10 |
WeeHands |
It's definately a quiet night! |
| 21:13:34 |
WeeHands |
Last week was VERY quiet - the
three weeks or so before were busy. |
| 21:13:49 |
WeeHands |
One chat I couldn't type fast
enough to keep up - it was great! |
| 21:13:54 |
echo |
Do you answer questions or have a
topic? |
| 21:14:18 |
WeeHands |
No topic, just answer questions
as we go depending on who's here. |
| 21:14:28 |
geokelkate |
I have question |
| 21:14:29 |
echo |
hello to the newcomer! |
| 21:14:40 |
WeeHands |
hello and welcome! ask away! |
| 21:14:47 |
geokelkate |
my first daughter picked up on
signs very early and used them often... |
| 21:15:11 |
geokelkate |
my second daughter is 12 months
and doesn't use signs much...I don't know why |
| 21:15:24 |
geokelkate |
we are trying to get her to use
all done"" |
| 21:15:28 |
geokelkate |
she just isn't interested |
| 21:15:49 |
geokelkate |
how can I get her interested |
| 21:15:49 |
WeeHands |
what does interest her? |
| 21:15:56 |
geokelkate |
her sister |
| 21:16:01 |
geokelkate |
she likes baby dolls |
| 21:16:08 |
geokelkate |
books |
| 21:16:47 |
geokelkate |
of course, I should note that she
really isn't using verbal language too much either...she says
dada" and that is about it" |
| 21:17:12 |
WeeHands |
Is her dada" for daddy?" |
| 21:17:14 |
geokelkate |
yes |
| 21:17:27 |
geokelkate |
she uses it for him |
| 21:17:49 |
geokelkate |
she has said nana" for mama once
or twice" |
| 21:18:17 |
WeeHands |
first of all let me say that all
babies/children are incredible different. . . |
| 21:18:40 |
WeeHands |
i know this is logical, but it
just amazes me how different my two wee ones are! |
| 21:19:11 |
WeeHands |
i would focus on signs for things
she's really interested in sister", "baby", "doll", "books",
"daddy", "mommy". . ." |
| 21:19:26 |
pattir |
hi |
| 21:19:34 |
WeeHands |
hi there and welcome! |
| 21:19:43 |
geokelkate |
that is a great idea |
| 21:19:55 |
geokelkate |
don't know why I was stuck on all
done"" |
| 21:20:14 |
WeeHands |
. . . but then add other signs
that you will use alot during the day, e.g., change", "all
gone", . . ." |
| 21:20:44 |
WeeHands |
that's okay we all get stuck" at
times in this thing called parenting!" |
| 21:21:16 |
geokelkate |
she seems to know what all done"
means...she likes it when I tell her she is "all done" with
eating since she knows she can then get done and run around" |
| 21:21:26 |
WeeHands |
Focus on about 10-15 signs that
are either really motivating or occur lots during the day and
sign them consistently and repeatedly |
| 21:21:52 |
geokelkate |
you have given me a good website
for signs before, but can you give me the address again? |
| 21:22:03 |
WeeHands |
what would happen if you didn't
sign it and when you saw she was finished you just waiting and
look expectantly at her? |
| 21:22:13 |
geokelkate |
that is a good question |
| 21:22:17 |
geokelkate |
she would probably cry |
| 21:22:26 |
geokelkate |
and whine |
| 21:22:32 |
geokelkate |
jbut I could try it |
| 21:23:01 |
geokelkate |
she reduces to tears very quickly
when things don't go her way |
| 21:23:13 |
WeeHands |
. . .maybe. . .wait expectantly
and just before you see her start to whine/cry sign all done" as
if a question and really exaggerate it" |
| 21:23:25 |
geokelkate |
alright, will try |
| 21:23:28 |
WeeHands |
oh, that's so sad! |
| 21:23:46 |
WeeHands |
signing with your baby should
never frustrate your baby, but should be very, very fun! |
| 21:23:51 |
pattir |
geo, it sounds like frustration |
| 21:24:00 |
geokelkate |
no she doesn't cry over the signs |
| 21:24:24 |
geokelkate |
she cries easily whenever she
hears no" or her sister takes her toys" |
| 21:24:53 |
WeeHands |
oh, the hardship of being the
younger sibling! i knew i was the oldest! |
| 21:25:23 |
pattir |
geo, how old is she? |
| 21:25:28 |
geokelkate |
her name is avery lo and I call
her Avery-my life is not fair-Lo" |
| 21:25:49 |
geokelkate |
it is tough being a baby |
| 21:26:06 |
WeeHands |
it is, but you are doing a great
job! |
| 21:26:41 |
geokelkate |
right now i need to go make sugar
cookies for tomorrow's playgroup so the three year olds can
decorate them |
| 21:26:50 |
geokelkate |
thanks for your suggestions! |
| 21:27:04 |
WeeHands |
websites for looking up signs:
http://www.born2sign.com/default.asp |
| 21:27:17 |
pattir |
hands, I have some questions |
| 21:27:19 |
WeeHands |
and http://commtechlab.msu.edu/sites/aslweb/browser.htm |
| 21:27:25 |
WeeHands |
go ahead patti |
| 21:27:45 |
pattir |
I'm adopting from China |
| 21:27:50 |
WeeHands |
Oh, by the way, it's Sara from
WeeHands! www.weehands.com |
| 21:27:56 |
WeeHands |
congratulations patti! |
| 21:28:30 |
pattir |
Hi sara! |
| 21:29:23 |
WeeHands |
are you travelling to China
yourself? |
| 21:29:25 |
pattir |
my baby will probably be around 1
year old. |
| 21:29:31 |
pattir |
My husband and I are going
together. |
| 21:29:35 |
pattir |
Probably in May or June. |
| 21:30:05 |
pattir |
I thought it would make sense to
learn a little sign in addition to some Mandarin (not that our
child will have heard much mandarin, necessarily |
| 21:30:40 |
pattir |
So let's say I'm teaching the
word for milk |
| 21:30:53 |
WeeHands |
i think providing a visual
language will be very helpful in the adjustment |
| 21:30:54 |
pattir |
do I do it before I give the
bottle? |
| 21:31:20 |
pattir |
Sara, I thought so. I've an
academic background in linguistics, and I know that the visual
cues are very important. |
| 21:31:53 |
WeeHands |
I would suggest trying to do the
sign for milk" while you're fixing the bottle, bringing it to
her, while she's drinking it and when she's done (before, during
and after)." |
| 21:32:15 |
pattir |
So keep doing it periodically
while we are in the activity of bottle |
| 21:32:23 |
WeeHands |
hey, a B.A. in linguistics here! |
| 21:32:26 |
pattir |
so there is an association |
| 21:32:34 |
pattir |
Yeah? where? |
| 21:32:45 |
pattir |
I have a BA from PSU and an MA
from Penn |
| 21:32:46 |
WeeHands |
yes, so she's seeing it often.
repetition and consistency are the key |
| 21:32:54 |
WeeHands |
University of Ottawa! |
| 21:32:57 |
pattir |
Cool! |
| 21:33:23 |
WeeHands |
try to take the before, during
and after approach with any sign you use |
| 21:33:24 |
pattir |
Are you suprised that a snobby
statesider knows about U of Ottawa? ;-) |
| 21:33:31 |
pattir |
ok |
| 21:33:41 |
pattir |
(I know Ottawa's a good school.) |
| 21:34:00 |
WeeHands |
oh, you even call it U of Ottawa
- I would have fallen off my chair if you typed U of O! |
| 21:34:29 |
pattir |
We saw a lot of publications in
grad school from there. |
| 21:34:30 |
WeeHands |
I actually wanted to do a
master's in Linguistics -still do - ASL / language development -
very cool! |
| 21:34:38 |
pattir |
I think ASL is VERY cool |
| 21:34:43 |
pattir |
I didn't really get it until
recently. |
| 21:34:51 |
pattir |
I wish I had known more about it
before. |
| 21:34:52 |
WeeHands |
some amazing prof's in Ottawa! |
| 21:34:56 |
pattir |
YES! |
| 21:35:07 |
WeeHands |
how did you find out about
signing with your baby? |
| 21:35:20 |
pattir |
Through one of my adoption lists |
| 21:35:26 |
WeeHands |
i think it helps that ottawa is a
bilingual city |
| 21:35:27 |
echo |
Sorry folks. I have got to jet.
My cat is missing! Yikes. |
| 21:35:35 |
echo |
Have a good night and I hope to
join you in future chats Sara! |
| 21:35:35 |
WeeHands |
take care echo - good luck! |
| 21:35:40 |
pattir |
Good luck finding kitty -- food
works wonders! |
| 21:35:58 |
echo |
good idea! Goodnight. |
| 21:35:59 |
echo |
sk |
| 21:36:12 |
WeeHands |
my son just closed my office door
- he's 4 - I'll be write back! |
| 21:36:20 |
pattir |
k |
| 21:37:00 |
WeeHands |
all is well - he's getting quite
tricky at times though :) |
| 21:38:59 |
pattir |
heheh |
| 21:39:00 |
WeeHands |
patti, i've had a number of
adopted babies and their families in our classes - some amazing
parents! |
| 21:39:14 |
pattir |
I can't wait until our baby
arrives. |
| 21:39:27 |
WeeHands |
it's like your pregnant! |
| 21:39:31 |
pattir |
kind of! |
| 21:39:41 |
WeeHands |
it's so exciting! |
| 21:39:48 |
pattir |
I said that I am going to have a
much longer labor after being on that plane! |
| 21:40:00 |
WeeHands |
will you keep a diary on your
trip? |
| 21:40:03 |
pattir |
I'm terrified of flying, but I
feel like it's something I need to do as part of the process. |
| 21:40:04 |
pattir |
Yes. |
| 21:40:22 |
pattir |
I want to start a little yahoo
group to document the trip for our friends too. |
| 21:40:58 |
WeeHands |
how that makes me go all
teary-eyed - you're terrified but you're doing it to go get your
baby. . .throwing you a big hug! |
| 21:41:07 |
WeeHands |
that's a great idea! |
| 21:43:08 |
WeeHands |
hi ellie! |
| 21:43:13 |
ellie |
hi sara |
| 21:43:17 |
pattir |
Hi ellie |
| 21:43:28 |
ellie |
hi pattir how is everyone tonight |
| 21:43:31 |
pattir |
Sara, I'm so excited to teach my
child asl. |
| 21:43:32 |
ellie |
sorry so late |
| 21:43:33 |
pattir |
I'm good. |
| 21:44:00 |
pattir |
I'm actually considering adopting
a special needs kid with some sort of hearing issue next time. |
| 21:44:21 |
WeeHands |
that's okay ellie there's still
18 minutes to CSI! |
| 21:44:29 |
ellie |
and to ER |
| 21:44:37 |
WeeHands |
ha ha! |
| 21:44:50 |
WeeHands |
wow, patti |
| 21:45:13 |
pattir |
Sara, I had some idea that ASL
would be hard to learn, but it's actually pretty easy -- NO
CONJUGATION OF VERBS! |
| 21:45:21 |
pattir |
I hate those stinkin' verbs |
| 21:46:20 |
pattir |
We want to adopt a special needs
kid next time, for sure. |
| 21:46:33 |
pattir |
But before we talked about cleft
palate or something. |
| 21:46:46 |
pattir |
But those kids have a better
chance of finding a home. |
| 21:47:04 |
WeeHands |
incredible |
| 21:47:10 |
pattir |
Ellie, I'm adopting from
China....just so you have a frame of reference. |
| 21:47:19 |
ellie |
wow that's amazing |
| 21:47:21 |
pattir |
Why incredible? All kids need
love. |
| 21:47:29 |
ellie |
i just saw something about that
on oprah today |
| 21:47:30 |
pattir |
And I want a child. |
| 21:47:36 |
pattir |
Yes, Ellie... |
| 21:47:37 |
pattir |
I heard |
| 21:47:44 |
pattir |
it was the talk of the chinese
adoption list. |
| 21:48:07 |
ellie |
there are a couple of families at
my children's daycare with adopted children from china |
| 21:48:08 |
pattir |
Only today I heard that they are
shutting down chinese adoption in 2008 |
| 21:48:17 |
pattir |
due to the olympics. |
| 21:48:21 |
WeeHands |
why? |
| 21:48:21 |
ellie |
ohhh |
| 21:48:27 |
ellie |
security |
| 21:48:33 |
pattir |
saving face."" |
| 21:48:34 |
ellie |
infectious disease control |
| 21:48:45 |
pattir |
The government is embarassed. |
| 21:48:52 |
ellie |
ohh that makes sense |
| 21:49:14 |
WeeHands |
makes me angry |
| 21:49:18 |
ellie |
are you planning to sign with
your future child |
| 21:49:25 |
pattir |
ellie, yes. |
| 21:49:28 |
pattir |
definitely. |
| 21:49:36 |
ellie |
that is great |
| 21:49:38 |
pattir |
I want our child to learn
Mandarin too. |
| 21:49:51 |
ellie |
do you know mandarin |
| 21:50:00 |
pattir |
Actually, I told my husband if
our child spoke Mandarin, English, and Spanish, they could have
any job they wanted. |
| 21:50:04 |
pattir |
I know a little |
| 21:50:09 |
pattir |
I'm trying to learn. |
| 21:50:18 |
ellie |
that is pretty cool |
| 21:50:40 |
WeeHands |
i had a student once who know
some chinese sign language |
| 21:50:48 |
ellie |
there you go |
| 21:51:47 |
ellie |
may be you can find out about
that pattir |
| 21:51:50 |
pattir |
really? Chinese sign
language...that's cool |
| 21:52:04 |
WeeHands |
sorry guys babies are calling -
same time and place next week though! |
| 21:52:12 |
pattir |
definitely, sara! |
| 21:52:12 |
ellie |
bye for now |
| 21:52:17 |
pattir |
everyone go enjoy er/csi |
| 21:52:19 |
pattir |
bye |
| 21:52:23 |
ellie |
seeya |
| 21:52:26 |
ellie |
goodnight |
