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Signing With Babies Chat #26, with Sarah Bingham of WeeHands
( www.weehands.com )
3/31/05

16 mamas in attendance

21:08:17 WeeHands WELCOME TO MOMMYCHATS!  I'M SARA FROM WEEHANDS AND I'M YOUR MODERATOR FOR OUR SIGNING WITH BABY CHAT TONIGHT!
21:08:28 ourwiefamily Yeah Sara!
21:08:28 mamaofdkl hello sara
21:09:22 WeeHands welcome, welcome, welcome!
21:09:25 ourwiefamily any specific topic tonight or just open questions about baby sign?
21:09:33 WeeHands how is everyone tonight? :-)
21:09:41 mamaofdkl good you?
21:09:53 ourwiefamily pretty good :)
21:10:04 WeeHands we keep things pretty informal!  just share stories and ask questions!
21:10:29 ourwiefamily I'm so excited this week ... we ordered the signingtimes dvds and cds after the last chat I was at
21:10:40 WeeHands love signing time!!!
21:10:42 ourwiefamily So far, the kids have watched numbers 1 and 2 and love them
21:11:00 WeeHands they only get better!  I think my favourite is #4!
21:11:11 ourwiefamily Even my 11 yo who initially thought he was too old for them is totally into it.  In fact, he is the one pulling it out, showing it to the little kids, then quizzing them on the signs lol
21:12:05 ourwiefamily We used to sign with our oldest two when they were younger because we had a deaf friend ... he no longer lives near us so it fell by the wayside.  I'm amazed not only with how fast some of it is coming back to me, but my older two also!
21:12:35 mamaofdkl that's cool
21:12:36 ourwiefamily They are cobbling together sentences now.  It just feels so good to be doing this again. I honestly didn't even realize how much I missed it.
21:13:05 mamaofdkl I taught myself some when i was younger
21:13:08 ourwiefamily But the best best best part is that my 2yo son actually did a couple of the signs already!  Milk and Signing
21:13:20 mamaofdkl a million years ago lol
21:13:40 ourwiefamily And my 2yo niece did too ... she does more signs than him though.  And mind you, this is after just one week of seeing the dvds
21:13:51 ourwiefamily sorry to be talking so much!
21:13:59 vonnie on way to get hot sauce - but can'twait for our DVDS!!!!
21:14:10 vonnie darn i live in a town where it takes forever for things to arrive to us lol
21:14:25 WeeHands ourwiefamily that's fantastic that you are so excited about it!  it's an incredible thing to share with your whole family!
21:14:30 ourwiefamily mamaofdkl have you started signing with your children yet?
21:14:53 WeeHands vonnie, are you talking DVDs or chinese food (arriving for you!?) :)
21:15:01 mamaofdkl My 1 1/2 yr old is delayed so about 5 weeks ago I started signing
21:15:24 ourwiefamily has he responded to it yet?
21:15:33 mamaofdkl on Easter he signed his first sign milk""
21:15:57 chjahns hi
21:16:01 mamaofdkl and has done it once a day since
21:16:03 ourwiefamily hello!
21:16:07 mamaofdkl hi
21:16:28 chjahns i am a new member.  just starting signing now.
21:16:55 mamaofdkl my 6 yr old came home from school signing the abc's
21:17:07 chjahns i dont think he is always interested in looking at my hands to see the signs i am making.  any thoughts?  he is 7 mos.
21:18:20 WeeHands ha, got kicked out of my own chat!  :/
21:18:36 mamaofdkl oops! lol
21:18:40 WeeHands chjahns congratulations on your baby's first sign!
21:18:53 WeeHands how old is your wee one  chjahns?
21:19:03 chjahns 7 mos
21:19:36 WeeHands wow, that's fantastic!
21:20:06 ourwiefamily how old are children usually when they use their first sign?
21:20:25 WeeHands typically between 9 and 12 months of age
21:20:36 WeeHands my first signed at 9 months, my second at 11 months
21:20:58 chjahns when did you start?
21:20:58 ourwiefamily was it  chjahns or  mamaofdkl whose child used their first sign?  I'm getting confused.  :)
21:21:12 chjahns can you show too many signs at one time?
21:21:21 mamaofdkl it was mine i think
21:21:51 WeeHands I started signing with both of them when they were 6 months old.
21:21:54 ourwiefamily okay ... so  chjahns, your little one has not done his first sign?  Is that right?
21:22:27 chjahns right
21:22:34 ourwiefamily glad to hear that  WeeHands ... my baby is 6m in a couple days.  I was worrying maybe I waited longer than I should have to start.
21:22:36 WeeHands my son signed with his sister though when she was 3 days old (ran to me signing nurse" when she was crying) too cute!"
21:22:42 bebesho are you hiding from someone? me?
21:22:43 ourwiefamily not that it would ever be too late, but ykwim...
21:22:53 WeeHands bebesho ?
21:23:01 bebesho is this a signing chat?
21:23:06 ourwiefamily the chat is scheduled to be in two different rooms
21:23:15 ourwiefamily the web page says one and the reminder message says the other
21:23:18 bebesho I amjust bouncong an lost
21:23:21 ourwiefamily here or baby and toddler
21:24:24 WeeHands i think Tina (the owner of this site) and I had talked about having this chat in the babies/toddlers area at one point, but sometimes we go over and there's a baby wearing chat there at 10 (in the babies/toddlers room)
21:24:41 WeeHands yes, this is the signing with baby chat
21:25:04 WeeHands it's never too early or too late to starting signing with your little one
21:25:11 signingbaby I'm here
21:25:17 ourwiefamily I got froze up there for a second
21:25:18 WeeHands monica!
21:25:24 vonnie ok back
21:25:25 signingbaby This site is not very user friendly or maybe I'm just an idiot!
21:25:34 WeeHands you are not an idiot!!
21:25:37 signingbaby Hi Sara!
21:25:39 WeeHands don't ever say that!
21:25:47 signingbaby :)
21:25:58 signingbaby Not sure how long I can stay, I have to get Corbin in bed.
21:26:31 signingbaby So do you usually have a good turnout?
21:26:32 vonnie on the topic can't wait for the DVDs to arrive
21:26:38 WeeHands chjahns you can show your baby whatever number of signs that you are comfortable with.  i typically suggest about 10-15 signs that are really motivating for your baby
21:26:43 ourwiefamily how many signs should be introduced at a time with little ones ... is it okay to just use all the ones I know?  Afterall ... that is what vonnie does right vonnie?  So if it is what one does with deaf children, then fine w/ hearing children, right?
21:26:44 vonnie but Chinese was already here so saying i wouldn't be on until im done yummy lol
21:27:09 vonnie i sign anything like parents speak to their kids
21:27:10 ourwiefamily okay ... you kind of already answered my question weehands.  :)
21:27:13 vonnie what do you mean exactly
21:27:14 WeeHands usually there's about 5-10 people here - we have a lot of fun!
21:27:22 signingbaby That's awesome
21:27:34 vonnie oh its fine with both hearing and deaf children
21:27:34 WeeHands ourwiefamily kind of? what other questions do you have?
21:27:54 ourwiefamily thanks vonnie ... just thinking out loud about what someone else had asked
21:27:59 chjahns is there any rules to follow when signing?
21:28:11 signingbaby Be consistent
21:28:21 ourwiefamily well, we are working on praising the kids for any little effort, esp my 2yo.
21:28:29 WeeHands make it fun for both you and your baby
21:28:32 chjahns what about the nanny.  should i make sure she does it too?
21:28:40 tricia_sign_instrr chjahns - to answer your question- I don't believe you can sign too many" signs at once to your child. Remember Deaf parents sign continuously to their children just like hearing parents are always "speaking to their babies" from the time they are born."
21:28:55 chjahns good point. thanks!
21:28:59 WeeHands that's one of the top questions i get asked  chjahns, re: child care
21:29:09 ourwiefamily We just started this last week ... so now every time he signs milk, I am currently saying yes, though that won't always be the case, but he isn't signing very often so I want to give the feedback.  Of course, his 4 older brothers and sister all cheering
21:29:13 ourwiefamily is also great feedback.  :)
21:29:13 signingbaby My husband didn't sign with my son and he still knew over 100 signs by the time he began to speak
21:29:41 chjahns signingbaby...wow!  impressive.
21:29:52 chjahns how did you do it?
21:29:52 signingbaby That was in response to the childcare thing ... it helps if the carer does sign but it doesn't mean that they won't succed
21:30:04 WeeHands my husband didn't sign with our son, until the little guy had a small breakdown after signing cookie" to his dad and not getting any!"
21:30:17 chjahns too cute!
21:30:24 ourwiefamily I wish we had started signing w/ my 2yo when he was little because he had some delays and really was frustrated w/ communication in general.
21:30:25 signingbaby Kevin signed/signs to Lauren
21:30:32 signingbaby But didn't with Corbin
21:30:54 WeeHands we've had two child care providers for our kids and they both just couldn't get enough information about signing
21:31:01 ourwiefamily My husband is watching the signing time videos with us and studying up ... when we had our deaf friend, Jeff didn't get to be around him much and never really learned very many signs ... so I'm excited he is joining the journey this time
21:31:20 mamaofdkl that is how Logan is
21:31:21 WeeHands Sign2Me's Quick Reference Guide" is a great thing to keep in the diaper bag for caregivers"
21:31:40 signingbaby That is great when other people are interested. People are more interested now with Lauren now that she cannot speak and needs to communicate with sign, I wish they had been more interested when she was younger
21:31:42 ourwiefamily I went to sign2me's website to see if there were classes near me.  Doesn't look like it
21:31:52 WeeHands where are you  ourwiefamily?
21:31:55 ourwiefamily Are there other big organizations for this that would share area classes?
21:32:27 WeeHands my husband 4 years later now loves to look for ASL dictionaries at garage sales - his new thing to collect!
21:33:08 ourwiefamily lol weehands ... but I can't stand to look at sign language books because I can't understand the signs from them!  I get a headache.  gack.  I have to be *shown*.  Guess I'm a visual learner ... or maybe kinestetic?
21:33:08 vonnie the Joy of SIgniNG THO YUCK!
21:33:21 signingbaby I have a deaf cousin, he is a great resource, but I don't see him too often
21:33:42 mamaofdkl we are waiting to find out if Logan is hearing impaired or what he goes to the audiologist in 3 weeks
21:33:54 signingbaby How old is Logan?
21:34:01 mamaofdkl 19 mo
21:34:13 signingbaby Do you suspect a hearing loss?
21:34:27 mamaofdkl it's hard to know
21:34:28 tricia_sign_instrr Mamaofdkl - Where are you? what state/province? I am an audiologist!
21:34:44 mamaofdkl illinois
21:35:02 WeeHands go tricia go!
21:35:14 tricia_sign_instrr So Logan did not have a hearing screening near birth?
21:35:34 mamaofdkl he doesn't respond when you are calling his name or talking to him
21:35:37 vonnie doesn't matter
21:35:39 signingbaby Corbin (6 years old) had a mild" hearing loss (30 & 35 db, right and left ear) but we fortunately found out it was conductive. He had surgery at the beginning of March (bilateral tubes and adenoidectomy) and his hearing is normal now."
21:35:45 mamaofdkl yes he did
21:35:46 vonnie my son was reported as hearing" until later"
21:35:48 Sandrine how come??
21:35:50 vonnie bec his ear drum works
21:35:53 vonnie mine works too but
21:35:55 Sandrine sorry wrong chat. lol
21:36:03 vonnie nerves don't so - it
21:36:08 vonnie sandrine you ll see my reasons now lol
21:36:27 vonnie iut is not identified at birth until eventually when my boy is old "enuff to response to sounds and he didn't"
21:37:05 ourwiefamily how do people choose name signs" for their children?"
21:37:06 vonnie there are many reasons to deafness but hosp test the ear drum i think and little things that does not answer it always
21:37:26 vonnie my boy had a sign name before a written name actually lol
21:37:36 kiddo good evening all
21:37:47 vonnie for him - its because during ultrasound for halfhour - in mouth out playing his hand was always a y" so we shake the "y""
21:37:49 signingbaby We don't have a name sign for anyone except Uncle Alan which she made up on her own
21:37:50 mamaofdkl hello
21:37:52 vonnie then later at birth got a name
21:38:36 signingbaby Cute story vonnie
21:38:59 vonnie americans changed the ways some using letters and all
21:39:00 WeeHands kiddo hi there!
21:39:01 ourwiefamily my older boys were given sign names by our deaf friend years ago, but they are so similar, it is hard for the little kids to tell them apart ... and my third's sign name was based on him being a baby, which he is not now and he would be offended to keep it
21:39:06 tricia_sign_instrr mamaofdkl - the hearing screening near birth that I am referring to is a neurophysiological test - called oto-acoustic emission tesing - It is an objective test. It does not test the eardrum exclusively. It tests the whole hearing mechanism.
21:39:16 vonnie but originally - its personality, identification, reasons behind a history blah to have a sign name
21:39:34 WeeHands my sign name was given to me by someone at a Deaf centre here in Toronto
21:39:34 vonnie yeah
21:39:53 tricia_sign_instrr me too, by an Interpretor of the Deaf in Toronto!
21:39:57 kiddo i have a sign name that means crazy, given to me by my deaf students
21:39:58 mamaofdkl tricia - they did the test that is mandatory for all newborns in illinois
21:40:00 ourwiefamily My sister has long hair so her's is a K starting by the head and going down in a wavy line.  :)
21:40:32 WeeHands lately my sons been calling me (with sign) mommy crazy" though!"
21:40:33 Sandrine Cool
21:40:39 tricia_sign_instrr sounds good mamaaofdkl - so they tell you your son passed" the hearing screening in both ears?"
21:40:57 vonnie lol weehands
21:40:58 ourwiefamily so vonnie ... could I find out the sign for like princess and use it for a name?
21:41:00 mamaofdkl i'm new to all of this so I don't know what's going to happen
21:41:09 kiddo hello weehands
21:41:14 vonnie i guess
21:41:21 vonnie princess will your girl like it growing up
21:41:21 mamaofdkl we haven't seen the audiologist yet
21:41:53 ourwiefamily we have friends here who just found out three of their children have hearing losses, three of them enough for hearing aides ... the oldest of them was I think about 9yo.  They had no idea bc the girls compensated well.
21:42:07 ourwiefamily I meant ... two for hearing aides
21:42:36 ourwiefamily vonnie ... I don't know if she'd like princess growing up.  That's where I'm stuck.  Seems like so many names are easy to outgrow?
21:42:51 vonnie yeah and the princess" is kinda common"
21:42:55 vonnie whats her tendency or
21:42:59 vonnie what is a memory" of her"
21:43:03 tricia_sign_instrr mamaof.. At 19 mos of age can be a tricky age to do audiologic testing. Not that it cannot be done. When I tested kids that age they often were unco-operatative.
21:43:04 vonnie identification
21:43:15 vonnie wish you have video phone so it can help me figure it out
21:43:18 mamaofdkl tricia he only passed the newborn one in the hosp
21:43:34 ourwiefamily well, it's my baby and she has two nicknames ... one is amazon princess because she was 11 pounds 4 ounces at birth ... the other nickname is Mia.  Her name is Maria.
21:43:40 signingbaby Lauren had a hearing test and she didn't have to be cooperative at all - they just stuck probe things in her ears and pronounced her of normal hearing.
21:43:42 mamaofdkl tricia what does this involve?
21:44:02 signingbaby She was 26 months at the time btw
21:44:14 mamaofdkl i was told something about a sound booth?
21:44:34 vonnie signing baby - that test my son and myself pass
21:44:35 tricia_sign_instrr mamaof..passed" is good. That means his hearing is within the normal range. A fail means that there is a possibility of a mild, moderate or severe loss which means in-depth audiologic tesing is required"
21:44:43 vonnie mia - what does that mean
21:44:56 WeeHands 11 pounds at birth!
21:45:05 mamaofdkl but the test he passed was 19 mo ago
21:45:07 ourwiefamily we had our son tested for hearing loss when he was preschool at the local college which had a great audiology dept ... it was in a soundbooth.  They were good at working w/ him, but they did kids a lot.
21:45:21 ourwiefamily Vonnie ... Mia is short for Maria, kind of like baby talk
21:45:35 mamaofdkl can it change that drastically?
21:45:45 signingminionmaker hi!
21:45:46 vonnie ok
21:46:17 vonnie can what change drasticalLY MAMA?
21:46:18 ourwiefamily WeeHands YEP ... homebirth too, but that would be a different chat.  :)
21:46:31 mamaofdkl his hearing
21:46:55 tricia_sign_instrr It's not likely to change drastically - UNLESS- it is a temporary (or conductive) hearing loss ie: ususally due to fluid in the middle ears.
21:47:09 MadChatter this is Robyn from alexandleah
21:47:27 tricia_sign_instrr Hi  Robyn!
21:47:29 kiddo tricia, what is your background, audiologist?
21:47:30 signingbaby That's what happened to Corbin, his inner ear was full of fluid
21:47:34 MadChatter so, what room are we in?  i'm a little confused by this website...
21:47:39 MadChatter hi tricia
21:47:41 ourwiefamily hello Robyn ... I'm a new member there but no time to read the list right now.  :(
21:47:48 signingbaby MadChatter - I had issues getting here too
21:47:52 ourwiefamily Robyn ... two different rooms were listed
21:47:57 tricia_sign_instrr yes, I am an audiologist  :)
21:48:04 WeeHands hi terrie!
21:48:10 kiddo thought so, im a dhh teacher
21:48:16 WeeHands ourwiefamily two home births for me!
21:48:18 signingminionmaker oh, hey Sara, just reading and trying to figure out what we're talking about
21:48:23 vonnie hey robyn vonnie here :-)
21:48:28 WeeHands welcome robyn!
21:48:29 tricia_sign_instrr kiddo - where are you a dhh teacher?
21:48:33 kiddo minn
21:48:34 MadChatter vonnie--i noticed :)
21:48:47 WeeHands we are in the meeting place" for the signing with baby chat"
21:49:02 MadChatter ok, good
21:49:14 mamalynn404 kiddo--where in MN?
21:49:16 tricia_sign_instrr kiddo - do you use a lot of ASL in your work? Is ASL embraced in your school system?
21:49:21 MadChatter is this sara?
21:49:38 kiddo how about you, where do you practice, im in southern minn, itinerant
21:49:40 WeeHands this is Sara!
21:49:51 signingbaby I'm going to go, nice chatting with you
21:50:05 MadChatter so, who is everyone else?
21:50:21 vonnie you dont need to know me lol
21:50:27 signingminionmaker I'm Terrie, also on the alexandleah:  mother to hearing triplets
21:50:35 MadChatter yeah, i'm running away from vonnie :)
21:50:41 WeeHands have a great evening monica!
21:50:41 kiddo I serve many school dist. but I have a couple deaf ones using asl
21:50:45 tricia_sign_instrr I'm in Calgary - worked a number of years ago with Deaf & hoh in Calgary - ASL was sort of still on the fence with many educators
21:50:51 MadChatter terrie, how old are the triplets?
21:50:56 signingminionmaker 20 months
21:51:00 kiddo i love it and have used it for many years
21:51:10 WeeHands Tricia's website is www.signingstore.ca
21:51:21 melissasenter hi all
21:51:31 WeeHands also known as www.signingtime.ca
21:51:33 signingminionmaker Robyn how old are you little one/s?
21:51:39 vonnie Calgary has a funny sign tho
21:51:46 vonnie wonder how it came around do you know tricia
21:51:49 MadChatter 2 boys--soon to be 3 years and soon to be 6 months
21:51:50 WeeHands melissasenter welcome!
21:51:57 MadChatter hi melissa
21:51:59 melissasenter hi
21:52:03 signingminionmaker Wow, I'd love a boy.  I have three identical girls
21:52:10 MadChatter i'd love girls :)  hehe...
21:52:12 MadChatter i wanted all girls
21:52:19 mamaofdkl goodnight all got to find my kids it's awfully quiet lol
21:52:23 MadChatter natural triplets or with help? :)
21:52:26 tricia_sign_instrr I always get the sign for Calgary" mixed up with the old ASL sign for coffee!"
21:52:28 MadChatter bye mama
21:52:33 signingminionmaker natural, we weren't even trying
21:52:39 ourwiefamily Tricia ... we just bought the whole set of signing time dvds and LOVE them (well, we've only had them one week and only watched 1 & 2 so far)
21:52:41 MadChatter old asl sign for coffee?  what's the old sign?
21:52:45 vonnie whgats new sign for coffee
21:52:48 MadChatter wow--that's awesome!
21:52:48 kiddo so what is the sign?  i have never seen it, don't know much canadian
21:52:51 vonnie i know theres only one for coffee
21:52:56 mamaofdkl bye mad
21:52:58 vonnie uess america has different sign for calgary
21:53:02 signingminionmaker thanks, I think s too!
21:53:03 vonnie two guns like a cowboy
21:53:19 signingminionmaker Vonnie is that for the Stampede?
21:53:23 tricia_sign_instrr ourwiefamily - did you get the DVD's from my site or US signingtime.com?
21:53:28 vonnie stampede whats that lol
21:53:32 vonnie i must be getting old
21:53:36 melissasenter where can i find used dvd with the sign language info
21:53:39 ourwiefamily The US site since I'm US
21:53:54 MadChatter ourwie--ur nick is familiar--who is this?
21:54:09 ourwiefamily Karla mum to six kids ... ring a bell at all?
21:54:13 vonnie US rules!
21:54:13 signingminionmaker I used to live in Edmonton and there was this Stampede every year where everyone dressed in old clothes and there was gold mining and stuff...
21:54:19 vonnie canadian have too many jokes against us
21:54:19 MadChatter yep
21:54:38 ourwiefamily I introduced myself on the alex and leah site but then not posting because no time to read it right now!
21:54:42 vonnie OK? ask tricia
21:54:47 vonnie im not canadian lol
21:54:49 kiddo I went to school in north dak and picked up the canadian aye
21:54:58 signingminionmaker funny
21:54:59 MadChatter karla--i know the feeling--i've been reading and moving on, but not responding much
21:55:04 tricia_sign_instrr vonnie: Funny I've been familiarized with that particular sign for Calgary ie: two cowboy guns. that's funny. I'll have to tell my Deaf friends. It must be an American thing :)
21:55:20 vonnie yeah i always thought it was a real sign
21:55:21 MadChatter so, tricia--what about the coffee sign?
21:55:23 vonnie whats the actual sign?
21:55:27 kiddo ill ask my interps what they use here
21:55:32 tricia_sign_instrr I meant: I've NOT been familiarized with....""
21:55:33 vonnie do you know what canadians sign for us when they are in US?
21:56:41 vonnie ok sorry - no intentiont o stop the chatting here :-D
21:56:53 MadChatter went to mall today for pictures of my boys--took forever.  so my sitter takes the boys to the play area while i wait to view/select.  i'd go and check occasionally and we'd sign to each other.  she laughed & said the people around her were going to think
21:56:57 ourwiefamily hey kiddo ... do you pronounce north dakota as nor duh ko tuh? lol
21:56:59 MadChatter i was deaf since she had spoken to ian there...
21:57:24 kiddo yea, that
21:57:35 vonnie lol
21:58:04 MadChatter i love that she signs.  it is SO helping me to get back my skills
21:58:12 tricia_sign_instrr MadChatter: The old sign for coffee, probably slang is the C" hand shaking out and near the head, as if asking for more coffee at a restaurant and such."
21:58:16 WeeHands this is too funny, we've got Calgary, Toronto, Guelph and North Dakota represented - where is everyone else from?
21:58:23 MadChatter texas
21:58:26 tricia_sign_instrr the coffee sign is different now for the last decade or so.
21:58:26 vonnie MadChatter from Alice in the Wonderland?
21:58:34 kiddo talking about pics at the mall, I took my boys and my 2 year old loved it he kept signing more to the lady, we got a pic of it and did not even notice until we got home, what a ham
21:58:41 MadChatter ah, i've never known that older sign
21:58:44 melissasenter does anyone know where i can find signing dvd's in Indiana???
21:58:53 vonnie im in Arizona
21:58:55 MadChatter no, that would be the madhatter.  i'm the madchatter because i love to chat :)
21:58:57 vonnie and too many questions
21:59:01 vonnie OH ISNT IT HOT?!"
21:59:07 vonnie DRY with cactus
21:59:13 vonnie nope where im has winter with mountains lol
21:59:15 signingminionmaker vonnie, where in Arizona.  My sister lives in Chandler
21:59:21 MadChatter melissa--any particular dvds ur looking for?
21:59:41 tricia_sign_instrr Geez, we had snow that stayed on the ground in Calgary yesterday.  Does that cool ya down in Texas? he hee
21:59:43 vonnie kiddo you should send that to
21:59:48 ourwiefamily my next question ... when we make our way through the signing time videos (which I bought to get the little ones going and spark everyone again) what does anyone recommend for a more advanced dvd learning program?  I am so NOT a book person for  ASL
21:59:49 vonnie sign2me i think - they are having a conest
21:59:51 vonnie contest
21:59:55 vonnie i live in flagstaff
21:59:57 MadChatter i lived in chandler in 1994 (i think)
22:00:19 tricia_sign_instrr ourweifamily - do you have Vol 4, 5 & 6 of Signing Time?
22:00:23 vonnie you think? lol
22:00:24 kiddo i sent it to monica, she has it on her sight, the baby was signing eat at the same time, his passion
22:00:29 MadChatter tricia--don't want cooling down--can take my 3 year old out to play and wear him out each day!
22:00:31 vonnie you must have been to so many places
22:00:39 signingminionmaker My brother in laws sister lives in flagstaff. small world
22:00:43 MadChatter i think it was 1994...
22:00:45 ourwiefamily yep.  We bought all 6 right away because my daughter was NUTS over the demos on the website.  :)
22:00:50 MadChatter i KNOW it was chandler :)
22:00:53 melissasenter beginning upwards i have a little girl who is 2 almost and have been working with a few sign i remember from the classes i took and the video i watched
22:01:04 signingminionmaker Robyn are you sure?
22:01:08 vonnie ha
22:01:19 MadChatter yes
22:01:21 vonnie I dont know about an older" dvds"
22:01:25 melissasenter are the sign2me good
22:01:29 signingminionmaker absolutely sure?
22:01:33 vonnie maybe ST can work on that? i dont know their future plans
22:01:38 vonnie i never tried it
22:01:44 MadChatter melissa, we love the signing times dvds (many of us here) if you haven't seen them
22:01:53 vonnie butr i know they are having a Candid contest
22:02:03 tricia_sign_instrr Mmm. - there are older videos out there - check what your local library has. I've taken almost all of them out to see what they are like.
22:02:05 MadChatter i just cant remember what year i was there 'cuz it was not the best year of my life
22:02:06 melissasenter never have heard of them
22:02:06 ourwiefamily where do you go for teh contest, vonnie?
22:02:10 vonnie I haven't yET! just the demos but ours on the WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
22:02:16 WeeHands sign2me has a great instructional video/DVD for parents and caregivers.
22:02:24 vonnie ourwie they posted it in the alexandleah yahoo group
22:02:36 MadChatter melissa--just got them 3 weeks ago myself.  found them online and then found many of these great ladies :)
22:02:37 vonnie yeah?
22:02:38 ourwiefamily well, guess it would help if I *read* my mail there, eh?  LOL
22:02:42 signingminionmaker Yes, they do.  ( Sorry Robyn don't want to bring back bad memories)
22:02:49 vonnie lol
22:02:54 kiddo i didn;t know there was an alex and leah yahoo site
22:02:58 MadChatter my nearly 3 year old has picked up about 50 signs in those 3 weeks and BEGS to watch them daily
22:03:05 melissasenter what is the website?
22:03:20 vonnie website for?
22:03:25 ourwiefamily we are talking about an e-group
22:03:27 MadChatter nah, not bad, just not memorable enough :)  first marriage...
22:03:34 melissasenter sign times?
22:03:37 signingminionmaker Been there done that...\
22:03:38 vonnie kick that guy down
22:03:38 ourwiefamily it's through yahoo ... I found out about it when I placed my order at signingtime.com
22:03:39 vonnie forget him lol
22:03:46 MadChatter www.yahoogroups.com/group/alexandleah
22:03:48 kiddo simular to the signing baby group?
22:04:00 MadChatter or www.signingtime.com for the dvds
22:04:07 kiddo ill have to check it out, my boys love the videos
22:04:13 MadChatter although i purchased mine new off ebay from a great lady (i can find her username if you want)
22:04:32 MadChatter she made a mistake when she shipped them, so when she shipped the other half, included a free set of the flash cards!
22:04:55 MadChatter vonnie--mostly forgotten, although we actually still keep in touch by email.  he's got a 3 year old boy too
22:05:17 tricia_sign_instrr The National Sharing Reading Program through  Gaudallet Uniiv ( colege for teh Deaf) have put out a series of videos that sign popular kids stories. Each are about 5-6 minutes long. You can learn a lot of ASL from those videos. Need to watch 4-5 times ...
22:05:41 MadChatter tricia--where can we get those?
22:05:41 kiddo those are good, i have a couple of them
22:05:58 kiddo tricia, are they still for sale, it has been a while
22:05:58 melissasenter madchatter what is her name
22:06:33 tricia_sign_instrr Mad Chatter -I have viewed them thru my local Deaf & hoh services library. They are fairly new.  I would do a search on Google...
22:06:33 vonnie who got a 3 years old boy?
22:07:22 kiddo thanks, i never thought of those for home use, i love this site
22:07:42 MadChatter melissa--let me look
22:07:47 MadChatter vonnie--my ex
22:08:03 vonnie oh
22:08:09 vonnie i have no idea what mine is up to lol
22:08:22 tricia_sign_instrr madchatter - if you have access/or telephone a fair-sized Deaf Cultural center or similar they should have some or tell you where you can order them from.
22:08:39 vonnie she said she bought hers off ebay
22:08:41 MadChatter yeah, i'm a little odd that way
22:09:35 vonnie do any of you have video phone
22:09:49 kiddo nope, this is as high tech as I get
22:09:53 ourwiefamily no vonnie :(
22:09:55 vonnie i am just curious because i wonder if deaf kids even if little - do they get free video phone too? *(high speed or dsl a must tho)
22:09:58 signingminionmaker Tricia, what age group would you say those videos are for?
22:10:01 kiddo in minn they do
22:10:02 melissasenter lol kiddo me too
22:10:10 tricia_sign_instrr I have a video cam (that's not the same as video phone....?
22:10:13 vonnie there might be one in your local too - will see how you can find out
22:10:15 ourwiefamily how much does a video phone cost?
22:10:21 vonnie webcam you mean
22:10:21 MadChatter her ebay id is bearhollow777
22:10:26 vonnie idea yeah but same no
22:10:29 vonnie mine is thru tv
22:10:37 vonnie i got mine free sinc eim deaf
22:10:45 vonnie thats why i wonder if kids get that too they should
22:10:52 tricia_sign_instrr signingmin.. -  well, the age group for whom they are appropriate would depend on how much sign the child knows..
22:11:03 kiddo the deaf school here is run by a deaf guy, he uses the video phone for all of his meetings,
22:11:12 signingminionmaker Well my girls are 20 months and know about 150 signs.
22:11:57 ourwiefamily wow  signingminionmaker  ... my 2yo only knows 2 signs, but then we've only been working on it one week.  :)
22:11:58 kiddo ot, took my little on to his 18 month appt today and the dr asked if he knew 8 words, isn;t that a little low ?
22:12:18 vonnie cool kiddo - wheres here""
22:12:19 tricia_sign_instrr If you can choose really really simple stories or one(s) your child already knows than if your child has the 75 signs from the Signing time videos than they may benefit. Kids can pick up so much- they are not constrained by the grammar structure of English
22:12:23 melissasenter thanks madchatter i will check that out ans see what they have later
22:12:25 ourwiefamily kiddo ... not really
22:12:27 MadChatter 8 words seems low to me, but my nephew (2 1/2) probably doesn't say 8 words now
22:12:48 kiddo the deaf school is in fairbault, near minneapolis minn
22:12:50 MadChatter tricia...not sure what to search for on google...did gallaudet kids stories and got lots of hits, but none that quickly seem right
22:12:50 signingminionmaker Are they purely in ASL or is there a voiceover?
22:12:51 ourwiefamily I have two children who barely spoke before they turned 2 ... now you know why I think baby signign ROCKS
22:13:17 vonnie lol
22:13:42 ourwiefamily both cases they started talking after the next baby was born.  Wanted to stand out maybe?
22:13:53 kiddo my oldest was a signing fool, the younger one, has a few key words he signs
22:14:12 MadChatter well, googled the national shared reading and got a much better link.  maybe i'll find it on there later :)
22:14:20 WeeHands doesn't anyone know of a website with the signs for happy birthday" on it?"
22:14:41 tricia_sign_instrr signingmin Yes they are pure ASL - no voice over (doesn't matter if volume is on or off on your TV) Stories are fun. Most readers" sign slow enough and repeat a lot. .like typical ASL users"
22:14:55 ourwiefamily we need that ... our deaf friend wasn't terribly sure so no clue if we got the signs right for happy birthday
22:15:00 signingminionmaker That sounds really cool.  I'd love to check them out.
22:15:24 kiddo there are about a dozen signs for 'happy birthday'
22:15:32 WeeHands just playing with this site as well: http://www.aslpah.ca/
22:15:51 tricia_sign_instrr madchatter - oh good, most of you ladies are good searchers' I'm not 100% sure of the name, but the words are there. Perhaps even start at Gaulladet College main page & search from there.
22:15:56 WeeHands kiddo I know, i'd love to see" them all somewhere!? :)"
22:16:06 WeeHands also, love to know the history behind each one!
22:16:16 kiddo you are ambitious
22:16:26 MadChatter well this is all about setting up a shared reading program, but doesn't seem to have the videos on it :(
22:16:32 WeeHands kiddo just in thinking, not actually in doing!
22:16:39 ourwiefamily anyone here heading over to the babywearing chat?  I have a great babywearing story to share today.  :)
22:16:52 kiddo im thinking they were produced by the kansas school for the deaf, the videos
22:16:53 ourwiefamily but I hate leaving here too because I'm so incredibly excited to be signing again.  :P
22:17:25 MadChatter really kiddo?  that's where my first deaf friend went to school :)
22:17:39 kiddo ill look for mine and return next week with the answer (hopefully)
22:17:44 signingminionmaker My Halla told my hubby today that she wanted to go outside with Z(could have been Zoe or pizza?) to play with a gorilla and then take a bath.
22:17:50 tricia_sign_instrr Well, I can't share any baby-wearing stories - I have a 13 year old who wants to shop every day and a 10 year-old boy who wears the same thing everyday. -Hey both they both know how to sign (lol)
22:17:55 kiddo small world
22:17:56 WeeHands ourwiefamily we're here every week!
22:18:00 MadChatter kiddo, would you note my email address in case i dont make it back on?  rmorrow@morrowclan.com
22:18:17 kiddo ill copy it down,
22:18:28 WeeHands ha! tricia!
22:18:28 ourwiefamily well ... I'll pop over there and see you all next week, hopefully.  Thank You!!!  I've enjoyed chatting
22:18:31 vonnie are you all in the babywearing too?
22:18:36 WeeHands yes!
22:18:36 MadChatter i was grateful for babywearing this morning.  my little bit got up TOO early
22:18:55 vonnie lol wasn't sure if i was doubled in same room
22:18:56 MadChatter thanks kiddo :)  my hubby travels 4 days a week and i never know if i'll get free time or not
22:19:01 MadChatter bye karla
22:19:06 WeeHands have a great week!
22:19:11 signingminionmaker bye!!
22:19:12 tricia_sign_instrr I should look too...I'll take down your email. Mine: Tricia Davis, Calgary is: signingstore@shaw.ca
22:19:31 ourwiefamily sigh now it won't let me leave LOL  Not sure why it won't let me use the drop down menu?  Maybe I'll have to log out ...
22:19:33 vonnie why are we giving emails?
22:20:15 tricia_sign_instrr we want to find out where to get Shared REading videos sponsored by Gaulladet College (next step in ASL videos)
22:20:24 vonnie let me know
22:20:25 vonnie lol
22:20:34 ourwiefamily I want to find out too!!!
22:20:36 melissasenter well all it is time for me to go do laundry and then cross stitch now that little one is in bed thanks for info and i may see you next week
22:20:47 tricia_sign_instrr bye,  great chat :D
22:20:52 ourwiefamily my email is ourwiefamily@catholicweb.com ... can you add me onto the list?
22:21:01 MadChatter cool tricia--i've got it down
22:21:16 vonnie VonnieTOys@yahoo.com here!
22:21:19 tricia_sign_instrr thanks Robyn (did I get your ame right?
22:21:26 vonnie and me? lol
22:21:27 MadChatter bye melissa
22:21:30 melissasenter got to get ready for trip soon so not sure when i will get back in here may be a fewday
22:21:39 melissasenter week
22:21:41 MadChatter yep that's me
22:21:52 WeeHands OKAY I WILL OFFICIALLY END THE SIGNING WITH BABY CHAT!  THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND BE SURE TO CHECK OUT ALL OUR SIGNING LINKS AT WWW.WEEHANDS.COM!  OH AND SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!

 

 

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