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Signing With Babies Chat #30, with Sarah Bingham of WeeHands
( www.weehands.com )
4/28/05

5 mamas in attendance

20:05:20 WeeHands HI THERE WELCOME TO THE SIGNING WITH BABY CHAT!  I'M YOUR HOST SARA FROM WEEHANDS!
20:05:26 WeeHands Hi Vonnie!
20:05:32 Vonnie hey sara!
20:05:44 Vonnie seems quiet tonight
20:05:51 onthebrink hi
20:06:07 WeeHands it does seem quiet.  i'm going to email the yahoo! groups i'm on
20:06:16 Vonnie np
20:06:22 Vonnie alexandleah that one?
20:09:14 WeeHands yes, that's one of them!
20:09:31 Vonnie lol
20:09:37 Vonnie i go there often and just got your email
20:09:42 Vonnie you go during wed chats?
20:09:43 WeeHands hee hee!
20:10:36 WeeHands sometimes if my kiddies let me. my dh has a guitar class wed nites so i don't often have time to get to the computer then
20:10:42 WeeHands hi tricia!
20:10:49 tricia_sign_instrr Hi Vonnie & Sara,
20:10:58 WeeHands how are things in calgary tricia?
20:11:32 tricia_sign_instrr Weel, snow the last two days my ds's soccer game cancelled tonight. A balmy +2 Celcius!
20:11:56 WeeHands oh man!
20:11:58 Vonnie sorry!
20:12:03 Vonnie im sooo tired to think
20:12:13 WeeHands why what's up vonnie?
20:12:15 Vonnie ah that explains weehands
20:12:24 tricia_sign_instrr what time is it in your time zone, vonnie?
20:12:29 Vonnie im just feeling so tired with no energy and my time management is at it worse lol
20:13:03 Vonnie arizona so NOW it is pacific tho i have no ocean lol
20:13:17 Vonnie wintertime its mst and summertime pst
20:13:27 WeeHands what time is it there now?  is arizona in the same time zone as calgary
20:13:43 Vonnie 6 13
20:13:49 WeeHands i'd love to be in arizona now!
20:14:04 Vonnie c'mon over!
20:14:42 tricia_sign_instrr vonnie is one hour earlier than Calgary!
20:14:57 tricia_sign_instrr Okay, are you guys too tired to help me with some ASL signs?
20:15:16 WeeHands no not at all!
20:15:35 WeeHands what signs are you looking for? although I think vonnie will be of more help!
20:16:12 tricia_sign_instrr HOw do you tell your students to sign truck" (I assume you don't tell them to sign "car" for "truck")  We have lots of truck drivers in Cow Town!! :)"
20:17:39 Vonnie lol tricia
20:17:45 WeeHands i'm surprise the ASL browswer doesn't have it!
20:17:48 Vonnie i can help
20:17:51 WeeHands i just looked it doesn't
20:17:55 Vonnie lol weehands
20:18:00 WeeHands hi there yatah!
20:18:06 yatah hi
20:18:11 WeeHands how would you sign it vonnie?  i have seen it two ways
20:18:36 Vonnie lol
20:18:42 Vonnie me too -
20:18:49 Vonnie truck as in T instead of car
20:18:52 Vonnie another one is
20:19:03 Vonnie spelling then signing a BIG" car"
20:19:46 tricia_sign_instrr go over this again
20:20:06 tricia_sign_instrr sign car sign but with both fists holding a t" letter?"
20:20:19 Vonnie that is one
20:20:48 tricia_sign_instrr Ok and second is fingerspelling T R U C K and sign car" sign ????"
20:20:53 WeeHands i've seen T" shapes both hands, at chest level, left hand in front of right a bit, and right hand (little finger side) hits left hand's thumb side"
20:21:22 WeeHands e.g., the tractor connecting to the trailer of a big rig (i have a little boy so i know all the correct terminology!)
20:21:36 WeeHands hi there minasmom!
20:21:54 minasmom hello everyone!
20:22:18 minasmom I thought I'd drop in and introduce myself
20:22:21 tricia_sign_instrr yes, Sara that's how I've seen in truck" at Calgary School for Deaf & HOH (over I was told that wasn't really an ASL sign)"
20:22:36 minasmom I've JUST started signing with my dd [she's 12 months, almost 13 months]
20:23:23 WeeHands i've also seen it like the sign for car but with hands in t" shapes"
20:23:35 Vonnie well i learned that in my deaf school tho many younger ( i beli9eve) are changing it so there are no letters but many of us still do
20:23:45 WeeHands i should have my canadian ASL dictionary at my side on thursday evenings!
20:24:31 WeeHands my son uses that way as part of the monster truck" sign! :D"
20:24:38 minasmom Oh!  Is there an online resource to the Canadain ASL?  I never even thought about that!
20:24:38 WeeHands hi monica!
20:24:42 signingbaby Hey hey hey
20:25:00 WeeHands no there isn't an online resource for Canadian ASL - great idea though!
20:25:10 WeeHands http://commtechlab.msu.edu/sites/aslweb/browser.htm
20:25:14 WeeHands is what I use alot
20:25:24 WeeHands where are you from minasmom?
20:25:32 tricia_sign_instrr so vonnie, you are saying truck used to be fingerspelled  and added a big car" sign, but the younger deaf are starting to drop the fingerspelling part? am I understanding you correctly??"
20:25:39 minasmom thanks, I'm in Toronto
20:25:48 Vonnie that first part is NOW
20:25:55 Vonnie the fists with T" is what i grew up with"
20:26:09 Vonnie other way around
20:26:31 tricia_sign_instrr Okay you are confusing me ( on purpose  ?? ) :)
20:26:33 signingbaby Lauren just signs blue" then "car" ... her sign for Dad's truck lol"
20:26:34 WeeHands the younger deaf are now fingerspelling it?
20:26:43 WeeHands too cute  signingbaby !
20:26:48 WeeHands how old is she?
20:26:52 signingbaby 29 months
20:27:04 WeeHands my sabrina is 30 months!
20:27:20 signingbaby Since I taught her colors it's really made a huge difference, if she doesn't know what something is she will sign the color and then point
20:27:33 signingbaby She will often refer to someone by the color of their shirt or outfit
20:27:43 WeeHands i only know that because the babycenter still has us on their system and I get an email every month regarding her age!
20:27:48 minasmom I have a question, i just started with dd and I'm currently only signing 'eat'.  How often should I introduce new words?  Should I wait until she signs 'eat' back to me or just keep adding new ones?
20:28:04 WeeHands how old is dd?  minasmom
20:28:14 minasmom almost 13 months
20:28:24 WeeHands also just curious are you in a WeeHands class in TO?
20:28:29 minasmom no i'm not
20:28:37 signingbaby I would introduce a few more signs to her minasmom
20:28:46 WeeHands minasmom what are her favourite things? e.g., top 6 things?
20:29:18 minasmom books, blocks, park, cats, dogs, nursing of course [she calls it nana though]
20:29:20 WeeHands the number of signs you show her is really up to you and what you're comfort level is?
20:29:21 tricia_sign_instrr I my opinion - the more signs you use in the correct context - the faster she'll catch on! Think of how we speak to our kids!
20:29:39 WeeHands we all talk very fast and use lots of words.
20:29:48 minasmom that makes sense.  I was just afraid of overloading her with too much
20:30:10 WeeHands right tricia - so sign whatever number of words you are comfortable with.  for parents that are new to this I usually recommend about 15 signs
20:30:18 tricia_sign_instrr depends on how many signs you know minasmom? Are you learning ASL signs from a book?
20:30:29 minasmom not a book, websites only
20:30:38 signingbaby I only used one sign with Corbin and didn't introduct any new ones until he signed it back - but that was in 2000 and I didn't know anyone else who signed so I wasn't sure it would work. LOL.
20:30:53 minasmom i only know eat so far ... i'm so new at this!  lol
20:30:56 WeeHands a combination of favourite things that you've listed and other signs that happen frequently throughout the day, e.g., change, bath, up, no touch, etc.
20:31:36 WeeHands minasmom can you email me at info@weehands.com and I'll send you a sheet of the signs for the favourite things you
20:31:40 WeeHands ve listed?
20:31:55 minasmom ok, i'll make a list and look them up.  Right now she just kind of stares at me ... does it take a long time for the child to understand the connection between word and sign?
20:32:02 minasmom thank you !  I will email you
20:32:16 signingbaby It varies from child to child
20:32:48 signingbaby But with the two I've signed with, I have noticed that once they realize that signing will allow them to communicate with you, they tend to pick it up faster
20:33:13 WeeHands most babies sign back between 9 and 12 months.  once they get past using about 8-10 signs, they may start learning VERY quickly!
20:33:15 minasmom i'm sure she will like that.  it will make her life easier!
20:33:26 tricia_sign_instrr Well, at 13 months if a parent has a reportoire of 15-20 signs and uses them for 10-20 minutes a day - there is agood chance she'll catch on pretty fast- maybe ina few weeks!
20:33:51 minasmom that's great!  I really like signing with her
20:33:56 signingbaby I would agree with Tricia ... the older they are the more likely they are to learn