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Signing With Babies Chat #33, with Sarah Bingham of WeeHands
( www.weehands.com )
5/19/05

6 mamas in attendance

20:05:48 WeeHands OFFICIAL START OF THE SIGNING WITH BABY CHAT! WELCOME! MY NAME IS SARA AND I AM YOUR HOSTESS TODAY! THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED AND POSTED ON THE SUNDAY FOLLOWING THIS CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :)
20:06:18 ourwiefamily Hello!
20:06:25 WeeHands hi there!
20:06:47 VJ hey weehands!
20:07:05 VJ sara! and Karla :)
20:07:17 WeeHands Hi VJ!
20:07:25 WeeHands you've got a good memory!
20:07:27 VJ how are you
20:07:32 VJ im Vonnie lol
20:07:40 WeeHands hello vonnie!
20:08:04 WeeHands i'm good - if feel like i just throw my kids in bed on thursdays though :D
20:10:30 tricia_sign_instrr Hi all, tricia here!
20:11:24 WeeHands great to see you!
20:11:43 ourwiefamily okay ... had to get my kids set up w/ something so I could chat
20:12:26 WeeHands a signing time video?
20:12:31 tricia_sign_instrr So I heard third-hand about a single,young moms who is signing with her 3 naturally-conceived triplets!!
20:14:28 WeeHands ? where did you hear this?
20:14:32 ourwiefamily Actually ... it's a sign video I found in my basement (no idea where it came from?!) but it's really meant for parents and it's very dry and boring.  But because it's sign language, there are three kids (6, 4, 2yo) watching as though it is spun gold.
20:14:35 ourwiefamily Easy to entertain
20:15:24 tricia_sign_instrr hmmm ourwie - we'll see how long they last!! jk
20:15:51 tricia_sign_instrr Well, Sara the family I mentioned lives in North Bay (ontario) that's my home town, as you recall.
20:16:02 ourwiefamily I think I'll be getting rid of this video!  :P
20:16:51 tricia_sign_instrr I good friend of mine who lives in NB, and is now a teacher, yet still active in La Leche (yet her oldest is 19 yrs) called me.
20:17:09 tricia_sign_instrr Her 19 yr old is volunteering to help this very busy mom with her triplets
20:17:28 WeeHands someone else with triplets - wow! (btw i don't have triplets, one of our instructors does)
20:17:32 ourwiefamily How old are the triplets, do you know?
20:17:39 WeeHands ourwiefamily what is the video?
20:17:52 ourwiefamily about that long ... my 6yo just said, I don't like this"  LOL"
20:18:07 WeeHands tricia_sign_instrr that's so good to hear about the 19 year old helping out - lovely!
20:18:12 WeeHands :D
20:18:26 ourwiefamily My 4yo already wandered off ... but my 2yo is watching w/ great interest still.
20:18:46 WeeHands too funny!
20:18:48 ourwiefamily It's called ... Special Signs by Grace Works Ministries
20:18:58 ourwiefamily taught by Jennifer Lamp
20:19:05 tricia_sign_instrr about 17 months . . . Michelle (the volunteer daughter) noticed one of triplets purposefully doing a sign (Michelle not knowing any ASL) figured out he was signing eat" (wanted a snack while at the playground)"
20:20:04 ourwiefamily It is very basic, just an adult showing a series of words in ASL ... and now my 6yo is correcting her (she did cat WRONG mom)
20:20:21 tricia_sign_instrr When Michelle got all 3 back home she asked the mom if they knew sign language and she said yes, she's been signing with them.  Apparantly the busy, breastfeeding (exclusively) takes the Signing  Time! videos out from the Ont.EArly Yrs Ctr and lets them wa
20:20:31 tricia_sign_instrr watch them while learning the signs herself!!
20:20:54 ourwiefamily Sigh ... when I dug it out of the box, I was excited thinking it was a kid video because it had a stuffed bunny on the cover.  I was saving it for tonight.  But alas ... I should have read more closely.  LOL  Now the 6yo turned it off in disgust!
20:21:05 tricia_sign_instrr lol
20:21:36 ourwiefamily I'm now being scolded for saying I had something special for them.  Oops!
20:22:42 tricia_sign_instrr Last summer when I was in North Bay I donated Vol 1 to the Early Year Centre. The literacy specialist then went on to develop her own sign language classes for new moms. The literacy specialist has run over 6 classes. She said she learned all the signs fro
20:23:08 tricia_sign_instrr from the Signing Time! videos that she got from me. (She had ended up ordering 8 more videos in total....)
20:23:17 ourwiefamily Well, it just makes us all the more grateful for ST, right?  I can't imagine a day w/o ST ... sometimes I would like a day w/o ST  LOL
20:23:47 tricia_sign_instrr not surprised to hear that ourwie - I hear that from other families!!
20:24:54 tricia_sign_instrr I have an 11-month old who has attended 8 classes with me and mom just bought the first set. She doesn't but on #3 because her son gets very upset and starts crying... mainly when the Silly Pizza Song comes on... Ever heard of that with a child???
20:25:34 VJ sorry my boy's being a true brat
20:26:02 tricia_sign_instrr hi vj. Where are you on the continent??
20:26:05 WeeHands No I haven't heard of a little one crying at the Pizza Song, just new parents in my classes when they try to sign it at Rachel's speed!
20:26:27 tricia_sign_instrr lol
20:27:21 tricia_sign_instrr Sara, your first instructor who came on board with you - did she end up taking formal ASL classes?
20:28:12 ourwiefamily There!  I listed the video on freecycle.  Hopefully it will be gone from my house soon!  LOL
20:28:42 VJ USA or at least I hope
20:28:46 VJ but
20:28:48 VJ AZ for now
20:28:54 tricia_sign_instrr lol
20:29:36 tricia_sign_instrr are you vonnie? . . . I'm confused *)
20:29:43 VJ yes im Vonnie
20:30:10 ourwiefamily phew ... now they finally settled on 101 Dalmations.  Now they can sit in there and sign dog, dog, dog  hehehe
20:30:22 tricia_sign_instrr Great! We missed you last week.
20:30:28 VJ mine is being difficult with rules and food
20:30:33 WeeHands Yes, the first one did and so are 3 others.  Now the people who are applying all know more ASL than me (maybe?) - one instructor is Deaf, the other had 2 years of an interpreting program, counsellors from the Bob Rumball Centre for the Deaf, etc.
20:30:56 VJ but that librarian is teaching based on ST only?
20:31:00 WeeHands ew, Cruella DeVille is scary!
20:31:11 tricia_sign_instrr Nothing wrong with that Sara - all the more credibility to your business!!
20:31:18 ourwiefamily hey scared.  Another sign they can use during teh movie, right?
20:31:36 WeeHands :yikes:
20:31:38 WeeHands scary!
20:31:43 ourwiefamily So how much ASL would you require from your instructors?
20:32:19 tricia_sign_instrr Yes, vonnie, I was quite surprised to hear she has done that!! The library is fluent in French as well, and I find as a rule if someone has another language they can pick up ASL pretty easily.
20:32:28 WeeHands At least what we have here as level 101 - it depends on what else they bring to the table
20:32:43 tricia_sign_instrr that should say librarian (not library) above..
20:32:48 ourwiefamily My sister and I had a very in depth talk about sign language the otehr day.  She was just captivated by the ST dvds.  It's been a long time since she used it.
20:32:57 WeeHands typos are aloud.
20:33:06 WeeHands :)
20:33:09 tricia_sign_instrr *)
20:33:12 ourwiefamily She has forgotten some, but remembers a lot still ... she didn't learn ASL last time though ... mostly SEE sign
20:33:45 tricia_sign_instrr vonnie, your expertise is requested....
20:33:53 VJ yes but sara that bothers me
20:33:57 ourwiefamily She contacted an interpreting place here in town to see if they need anyone to interpret (she used to do that for our deaf friend who was her boyfriend).  She hoped to see if they had ASL training t hrough th em
20:34:03 VJ she does it for money does she sara?
20:34:22 signingminionmaker Hello!!!
20:34:35 ourwiefamily I was telling her I thought she should look into maybe doing some sort of baby sign classes.  I mean, getting certified and dusting off this talent and converting over to ASL.
20:34:36 WeeHands i'm not sure what you mean vonnie?
20:34:37 tricia_sign_instrr hi terrie! am I right? *)
20:34:50 signingminionmaker yup
20:34:59 VJ ha tricia
20:35:05 VJ what is it?
20:35:14 VJ she TEACHES
20:35:25 VJ by volunteering or being paid bec it just bothers me so much
20:35:33 VJ someone would just watch DVDs then money out of it rather than
20:35:39 VJ finding a deaf person to teach the language or
20:35:42 WeeHands re the woman who didn't learn ASL but SEE?
20:35:47 VJ at least someone who has gone into depth to learn it
20:36:03 tricia_sign_instrr Terrie whew... you missed my story about another family with triplets who sign.... in ONtario (North Bay)
20:36:52 tricia_sign_instrr I think vonnie means the librarian who taught ASL classes to babies and parents only from ASL signs from Signing Time!. Am I  getting this right vonnie?
20:37:00 signingminionmaker Hey, hook me up!!  i've met another family on the ST chat who had triplets the same day as me and lived in California.  I've lost contact though and wish i could find them again.
20:37:15 signingminionmaker I'd love to chat with them
20:37:26 VJ yes tricia
20:37:37 VJ it just bothers and kinda offends me
20:37:46 VJ nice terrie!!!
20:37:54 VJ fun to meet others who have triplets eh?
20:38:11 WeeHands i can't believe the other 3s for born on the same day as yours!
20:38:15 WeeHands kewl!
20:38:18 signingminionmaker It's awesome, I actually have met quite a few on ebay of all places that I keep in contact with.
20:38:47 tricia_sign_instrr oh, yeah, the mother is 24 (young) & get this juicy stuff - she was happily married, planning ona child, got pregnant - found out she was going to have quadruplets (naturally conceived) & her husband scrammed!!!!! :(
20:39:13 WeeHands :<
20:39:22 signingminionmaker Oh my gosh!!!
20:39:48 signingminionmaker I've been chatting with a single mom who just had triplets online as well.  Has a two year old daughter and three 8 month olds
20:39:57 VJ oh man
20:39:57 WeeHands ah!
20:40:02 VJ but sara? that librarian?
20:40:05 tricia_sign_instrr vonnie - I agree with you. I wanted to tell that librarian that it wasn't really right! I really  wonder how correctly she taught the signs or even if she did some reading on the language of ASL before teaching!!
20:40:12 VJ yeck
20:40:15 VJ hard i bet
20:40:25 VJ is there a way i could contact her
20:40:34 VJ where is that area
20:40:34 tricia_sign_instrr vonnie- sara doesn't know the librarian - I do.
20:40:41 VJ oh tricia lol
20:40:47 VJ i got it messed up ok how do i contact her
20:40:53 VJ i seriously want to have a talk with her
20:41:02 VJ its like if ST actually has spanish speaking with signing
20:41:08 VJ and i go and teach spanish based on that
20:41:09 WeeHands sorry...i'm just trying to reread the posts regarding the librarian!
20:41:16 VJ lol sorry
20:41:45 WeeHands or like me teaching italian classes with my italian! my hubby would laugh so hard!
20:42:35 WeeHands okay this is the literacy specialist in North Bay = librarian (correct?)
20:42:50 tricia_sign_instrr Well, vonnie I will be meeting with the librarian in July - maybe you can suggest what I say to her!!
20:43:16 VJ tell her that a Deaf mother of a deaf son would love very much to chat with her and if shes up to it
20:43:24 WeeHands are there ASL classes in North Bay - I know you can't take one in Sudbury
20:43:27 tricia_sign_instrr yes, Sara (technically she's a literacy specialist) - but librarian will do for this chat!
20:43:28 VJ lol sara
20:43:41 WeeHands no teachers for classes in Sudbury
20:44:12 WeeHands i'm a little slow tonight!
20:44:19 tricia_sign_instrr I know she wouldn't chat" - I can never get her on the phone, but I could email her and ask if she would be responsive to an email from you."
20:44:27 VJ yea
20:45:07 VJ so what did you need my expertise as you called it with?
20:45:08 VJ lol
20:45:19 tricia_sign_instrr I don't believe there are formal ASL classes in N.Bay size is only 60,000 altho there is a college and small university. French lang.instruction is big there
20:45:26 tricia_sign_instrr oh yeah, vonnie
20:45:58 VJ but i know PLENTY of deaf people in ONtario who would be more than happy to teach
20:46:17 tricia_sign_instrr I found a reference for the word spicy" as in spicy food, because you wouldn't want to sign "hot". But can you give me your ASL version for signing "spicy"?"
20:46:48 WeeHands It looks like the Canadian Hearing Society in North Bay may have classes
20:46:58 tricia_sign_instrr really vonnie? MOst must be in Toronto. The Deaf communities are mostly in very big cities...
20:47:28 VJ yea but they probably went there for deaf schools t
20:47:32 tricia_sign_instrr oh, thanks Sara I should contact them... & if so hook an instructor with the librarian at Ont Early Yrs Ctr...
20:47:37 VJ however lived away you know and i met them thru college
20:47:52 VJ my ex in belleville - they asked his SISTER to teach
20:47:56 VJ and she didn't know crats
20:48:01 VJ and all that
20:48:23 VJ where is willow tho
20:48:28 signingminionmaker Okay, I'm trying to follow, this librarian where is she?
20:48:40 VJ north bay ontario
20:48:43 VJ right?
20:48:51 WeeHands North Bay - I keep typing North Baby though!
20:49:06 VJ lol
20:49:08 WeeHands Canadore College doesn't offer it
20:49:42 signingminionmaker And she's teaching only using the signs from ST?
20:50:49 ourwiefamily sign question ... how do you sign birth"?"
20:51:48 VJ two palms
20:51:56 VJ one holding on top of other
20:52:02 VJ then the bottom - stick out like a head
20:52:05 VJ signing downward
20:52:38 WeeHands Nipissing University has Deaf Education courses in their teachers' program
20:53:35 VJ where is Nipissing sorry but that word um... lol
20:54:16 WeeHands North Baby (i give up!) - it's the university there
20:55:01 WeeHands I wonder if the two school boards would have any classes in their evening programs?
20:55:22 tricia_sign_instrr Good searching Sara
20:55:24 VJ lol
20:55:36 tricia_sign_instrr vj Nipissing is a native word - very common in Canada!!!
20:55:42 VJ i dunno but that librarian is really getting to me
20:55:42 ourwiefamily My sister was out shopping the other day w/ her little kids.  She had her hands full as she left the door.  Two gals were coming in and offered to hold the door for her ... speaking in ASL!
20:55:47 VJ yea
20:55:54 VJ like cockburn
20:55:54 ourwiefamily Turns out they were both deaf.  My sister surprised them by responding in sign.
20:55:57 VJ lol lol lol
20:56:41 ourwiefamily They were so excited.  So was my sis.  They got to talk for a few minutes but then my sister's kids went crazy and she had to leave.  She is now kicking herself because she didn't get their names.  :(  They live over somewhere kind of near her though so
20:56:46 WeeHands I had an early years centre in Trenton call me - they are hoping to start a support group for parents whose children are Deaf or HoH. I'm going to tell them to contact the school for the Deaf in Belleville
20:56:50 ourwiefamily maybe they will run into each otehr again?
20:57:13 WeeHands what a nice story  ourwiefamily
20:57:27 ourwiefamily I know my kids would think anyone deaf was like a celebrity at this point!  It would be awesome to have some deaf friends again.
20:57:44 VJ yea
20:57:52 VJ where is oh not Willow sorry! Winslow
20:58:02 WeeHands ourwiefamily i agree!
20:58:07 ourwiefamily I really very strongly want my children to be conversant in ASL before they leave home.  And Spanish too (my bil is from Mexico).
20:58:27 VJ yea im working on learning spanish
20:58:38 VJ tho i need someone who i can actually practice with than just read and learn
20:58:43 ourwiefamily spanish to read or spanish sign?
20:58:55 VJ reason i said cockburn - hope you americans dont think im nutsy
20:59:03 VJ but that was my ex's last name so it never became mine
20:59:11 VJ no way i will go by vonnie hart cockburn
20:59:19 ourwiefamily lol
21:00:00 tricia_sign_instrr did vonnie answer my request for spicy"?"
21:00:07 VJ i didn't see it sorry
21:00:20 VJ well i used to sign it like
21:00:32 VJ bad breath" but its confusing however i saw someone signing it the opposite"
21:00:48 VJ which made sense but i dont know if people would understand so if you take that then you got to tell them spicy
21:00:55 VJ spanish to read
21:00:57 tricia_sign_instrr oh, I don't know sign for
21:01:08 tricia_sign_instrr bad breath - sorry I'll run and look it up.....
21:01:10 VJ do you know spanish karla
21:01:12 VJ lol
21:01:14 VJ you know
21:01:18 VJ wiggling your fingers
21:01:26 VJ coming out our mouth
21:01:37 VJ well using lips that is
21:02:06 ourwiefamily a little spanish vonnie ... my sister is about as fluent as an American can get, though.
21:02:25 VJ fun she signs spanish and do english cool
21:02:30 VJ think she would practice with me?
21:02:40 ourwiefamily I understand a lot better than I speak.  (both sign and spanish!)
21:02:58 tricia_sign_instrr where's terrie?
21:02:59 ourwiefamily she might vonnie ... I could ask her
21:03:09 signingminionmaker stillhere
21:03:34 tricia_sign_instrr terrie - did you send me an email a month or so ago. would I have your email address?
21:03:35 signingminionmaker sorry trying to do two things at once as always.
21:04:00 signingminionmaker i'm sure that I did.  justsignhere_hotmail.com
21:04:00 ourwiefamily i have this ASL dictionary I'm wondering about ... it's kind of weird because I got it used and the previous owner crossed out a bunch of words.
21:04:14 signingminionmaker oops, justsignhere_guelph@hotmail.com
21:04:20 tricia_sign_instrr I certainly could contact the mom with triplets to see if she would like to correspond.Being a single MOM I'm sure appreciate the companionship, not say the support!
21:04:22 ourwiefamily I was wondering if the signs were wrong in it?
21:04:30 ourwiefamily How would I find out if it is a good dictionary or not?
21:05:13 ourwiefamily I don't want to learn signs incorrectly, yk?
21:05:39 signingminionmaker that would be awesome!!
21:06:15 tricia_sign_instrr I'll work on getting her to contact you (it may take a few weeks - be patient)
21:07:13 VJ single mom?!
21:07:17 VJ tricia ur a single mom?
21:07:29 VJ ok thanks karla
21:07:53 signingminionmaker no prob, I understand
21:07:58 tricia_sign_instrr OH, yeah, to finish about the triplets mom...She was originallly pregnant with 4. She lost one of her fetuses during the pregnancy - told fleeing husband that there would be only 3 babies instead of 4. He showed up for the birth and a few days & now is..
21:08:10 tricia_sign_instrr gone for good! Her triplets are about 17 monhts old Terry.
21:08:29 tricia_sign_instrr No vonnie, I am married with two kids.
21:08:34 VJ oh oh oh i remember now sorry
21:08:38 VJ the mother yea
21:08:43 WeeHands what a story
21:08:46 ourwiefamily wow ... I can't understand leaving a spouse because of triplets (or even quadruplets)
21:09:01 tricia_sign_instrr no worries.  I am an audiologist, who actually took the time to learn ASL - not many of my colleagues bother.
21:09:03 VJ where is she again?
21:09:09 VJ yea
21:09:17 VJ Jelani's audiologist knew signing
21:09:29 tricia_sign_instrr Who the mom with triplets?
21:09:32 VJ yea
21:09:33 signingminionmaker Parents of multiples actually have the highest divorce rates.
21:09:38 VJ invite her in this chat?
21:09:48 signingminionmaker It's like 75-85% divorce.
21:09:56 tricia_sign_instrr really !!!! :(
21:10:07 WeeHands that's awful
21:10:21 tricia_sign_instrr MOn with triplets lives in that notorious town, North Bay (about 200 miles North or Toronto)
21:10:28 ourwiefamily wow ... everyone I know w/ multiples is still married.  I know several w/ twins ... but then they are usually like child number 7 and 8 or something in big familes, so maybe that's why?
21:10:52 VJ ah
21:10:58 tricia_sign_instrr oh, yeah, good idea vonnie to invite her to chat. -wonder if she could find the time...
21:11:20 VJ single mom here thats why i asked
21:11:24 ourwiefamily There is the single mom chat on Sun nights ... wonder if she'd like that chat too (and this one too)
21:11:40 tricia_sign_instrr sometimes it seems families who CHOOSE to have large families are the happiest.. I notice that here in Calgary..
21:11:41 VJ i hardly see anyone there so i give up
21:12:39 tricia_sign_instrr vonnie - when I trained in Michigan (in Audiology) audiologists learning ASL seemed much more acceptable than audiologists in Canada.
21:12:50 VJ hey jenn!
21:13:01 VJ i dont know
21:13:06 ourwiefamily that's too bad, vonnie ... I was really bored one Sunday night and thought about popping in and saying hi but I figured they would all think I was very strange.  :)  But hey ... my sis used to be a single mom and i remember what a challenge that was
21:13:10 tricia_sign_instrr Parts of Canada, namely Montreal (where there is a famous oral" school) have frowned on signing."
21:13:31 ourwiefamily so I could have at least said I cared.
21:13:32 VJ wow
21:13:37 VJ lol
21:13:43 bumwrap hi
21:13:50 VJ do you think it helps tricia to sign
21:13:57 VJ bec you are only" testing their hearings?"
21:14:07 ourwiefamily I don't understand frowning on signing.  That's really too bad.
21:14:31 tricia_sign_instrr I thought that was wrong about 6 months after studying about their program. When I used to see teachers putting cardbd shield in front of Deaf kids to make them listen" I thought that was very,  very wrong. And I was just a student then."
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