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Signing With Babies Chat #42, with Sarah Bingham of WeeHands
( www.weehands.com )
9/29/05

6 mamas in attendance

15:18:55 WeeHands OFFICIAL START OF THE SIGNING WITH BABY CHAT! WELCOME! MY NAME IS SARA AND I AM YOUR HOSTESS TODAY! THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED AND POSTED ON THE SUNDAY FOLLOWING THIS CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :)
15:21:30 WeeHands hi there!
15:21:33 weecansign hello
15:21:37 WeeHands i missed you by seconds before!
15:21:52 WeeHands what's new in your neck of the woods!
15:22:07 weecansign well, I'm in California right now
15:22:17 WeeHands travelling?
15:22:19 weecansign visiting with family
15:22:26 WeeHands lovely!
15:22:34 weecansign we go back to Las Vegas tomorrow night
15:22:42 weecansign what's up with you?
15:23:14 WeeHands sitting here getting colder by the day - can't believe it's almost October!
15:23:24 WeeHands Getting ready for two baby shows in October
15:23:37 weecansign yes, I'm looking forward to the Fall weather
15:24:08 WeeHands Do you have classes starting this fall?
15:24:26 weecansign many many class sessions in the Fall!
15:24:34 weecansign www.weecansign.com/classes.htm
15:25:41 WeeHands many many!
15:26:13 weecansign :) LOL
15:26:20 WeeHands i love your website - do you do it yourself?
15:26:34 weecansign my ex-husband does my website!
15:26:37 weecansign :P
15:27:06 weecansign he's a good web designer, but a lousy husband LOLOL
15:27:13 WeeHands hmmmmm :)
15:27:40 WeeHands this is a public transcript !!! :?
15:28:15 WeeHands lol
15:28:27 WeeHands You do 4 week classes - right?
15:28:54 weecansign yes, 4 weeks and 4 weeks of Level 2 if people want more.
15:29:25 WeeHands how many families do you get to in a month then?
15:29:49 weecansign each class has between 8 and 12 families
15:30:13 weecansign usually
15:30:28 WeeHands about 40 then - that's awesome! that you are introducing the number to this amazing experience!
15:31:03 weecansign how many are you reaching per month?
15:31:10 weecansign I know you've got classes all over, too
15:32:27 WeeHands i'm teaching just one class this month - just 5 families, but there are about 20-30+ WeeHands going on in the GTA
15:32:37 WeeHands WeeHands classes
15:32:56 WeeHands hmmm, I never thought of it like this - wow!
15:37:02 weecansign I got to meet Vince Kitely a few weeks ago.  He came to Las Vegas for a Kids Expo
15:37:17 weecansign Nancy Cadjan from Sign Babies was here, too
15:39:17 WeeHands that must have been wonderful!
15:39:19 weecansign hello
15:39:51 WeeHands hi there mummoth!
15:39:54 mummoth hi
15:40:12 WeeHands Sara from Toronto here!
15:40:20 weecansign Shannon from Las Vegas here
15:40:24 mummoth Im Teresa From Coquitlam BC
15:40:33 weecansign but I'm in sunny California today
15:41:04 mummoth its pouring here..
15:41:08 weecansign hi Teresa, do you Sign with your baby?
15:41:57 WeeHands got a whole lot of the continent covered!
15:42:12 mummoth no, not really.... its interesting to me though, since she isnt talking as much as her brother did
15:43:02 WeeHands how old are they?
15:43:11 mummoth she can nod her head yes & no, so I ask her alot of qs she can answer that way
15:43:39 mummoth shes 15 months hes 3 1/2 years (he talked alot more than she does when he was ehr age)
15:44:09 weecansign she is at a great age to start introducing Signs.  She'll pick them up pretty quickly at this age
15:44:10 WeeHands hi echo! hi lisa b!
15:44:18 weecansign echo!!!!!
15:44:24 mummoth I was worried she might be too old!
15:44:25 echo Hello!
15:44:42 echo Ladies, thanks for the invite!
15:44:48 WeeHands *applause* for you all!
15:44:54 echo I may only be able to stay a short while.
15:45:10 WeeHands that's okay it's great to have you!
15:45:27 WeeHands mummoth what are your daughter's favourite things?
15:46:03 WeeHands as always MUST recommend these websites:  www.sign2me.com
15:46:04 mummoth hmmmm... her brother! she likes dogs (she says Oof! Oof!" for that)"
15:46:08 WeeHands www.signingtime.com
15:46:14 WeeHands and www.signwithsam.com
15:46:14 weecansign introduce Signs for favorite foods, toys, activities, animals
15:46:18 mummoth ummm she likes bathtime
15:46:26 mummoth okay
15:47:06 mummoth I want her to be able to sign to me when she poops... it bugs her when she goes
15:47:08 WeeHands Introduce the signs for 1) brother 2) dog 3) bath definitely and build a list of favourite things, just as Shannon said from there.
15:47:48 WeeHands Add in signs for things that you do every day (often a few times a day!), e.g., diaper change, eat, sleep, etc.
15:47:56 weecansign at 15 months of age, I would ask my son if he wanted CRACKER or BANANA (while Signing those) and he would Sign CHEESE!
15:48:12 echo cute!
15:48:17 echo Did you give him cheese?
15:48:22 weecansign yep!
15:48:30 LisaB howdy
15:49:13 WeeHands my little one at 16 months would sign CHEESE and I'd give her cheddar. she'd drop it and sign CHEESE again and point to me - I had havarti on my sandwich!
15:49:32 WeeHands cheeky little thing!
15:49:33 LisaB My son loves string cheese... and the sign for cheese gets used quite often at our house
15:49:44 WeeHands mmmm, cheese!
15:50:07 mummoth brb
15:50:27 WeeHands my son's sign for CHEESE and COOKIE looked very similar at that age - but I could tell what he wanted by the vowel sounds he would make
15:51:19 WeeHands Oh, on October 26th, Mothering Magazine is hosting a Sign with Baby chat here at 9 pm eastern time.  It hopefully will be VERY business so mark it on your calendars!
15:51:32 WeeHands Tell all the families you know about it too!
15:51:39 LisaB my son approximates the cookie sign but it turns out it, in ASL he is signing meat" but I know that is his sign for cookie + he verbalizes  "Keee" when he does it"
15:52:21 WeeHands what would happen if you gave him meat" when he made this sign...just curious?"
15:53:11 LisaB he has been refusing to eat meat lately...he would take it and throw it to the side of his high chair, say  and sign Noooooooooooo and then sign again and say Keee
15:53:13 WeeHands for my kids cookie" was "totee" for their first 18-24 months or so"
15:53:22 WeeHands LOL
15:53:26 mummoth zzzzzzazazaamajjajajjaaaaaaaaaaaaaaj aj jaajajajajajaajaajajj a a
15:53:35 weecansign what happened?
15:53:39 WeeHands hello little one at the keyboard!
15:53:45 WeeHands i guessing!
15:53:47 LisaB LOL
15:54:07 WeeHands or it's a quick fingerspelling test!!! ;)
15:54:09 echo What time is the chat on Oct 26 Sara?
15:54:33 mummoth kg whoops! she was typing as I got her cover on.. she knows how to push enter now I guess
15:54:34 WeeHands it's 9 pm eastern but I should confirm that it is eastern time
15:54:43 WeeHands smart baby!
15:55:14 LisaB I'll look for a heads up reminder as it gets a bit closer...sounds cool.  do you know if that is EST ?
15:55:40 LisaB sorry, I'm typing behind the topic
15:56:26 WeeHands just checking on the time
15:56:29 weecansign brb
15:56:31 LisaB odd question here but does anyone know the sign for broccoli" my son absolutly lves it"
15:56:57 WeeHands 6PM Pacific, 7 PM Mountain, 8 PM Central, and 9 PM Eastern.
15:57:04 echo thanks Sara.
15:58:02 WeeHands i've seen what I think is an old way to sign it....
15:58:15 WeeHands like tree but your dominant hand is in a B shape
15:58:22 echo There isn't an ASL sign for Brocolli that I know of...
15:58:41 echo There are a few SEE signs for Brocolli.
15:58:49 echo However.
15:59:04 LisaB I think ASL pro had something but it didn't seem right..
16:00:20 echo What was it Lisa?
16:01:28 ourwiefamily phew some peoplel are still here!  I almost completely missed you all!
16:01:34 ourwiefamily (I am an hour late, right?  sigh)
16:01:38 LisaB sorry, ASLPro had a sign for Broccoli... dominant hand coming up from under/inside and popping up like a flower in anflower pot for broccoli
16:02:58 ourwiefamily now broccoli is a sign I wouldn't expect kids at my house to want to use.  LOL  (maybe ... none of that broccoli please mom!)
16:03:14 WeeHands hi there  ourwiefamily !
16:03:32 ourwiefamily hello!  I finally get the day right but of course miss the time.  argh.  :)
16:03:52 echo That is what I have seen also Lisa, but it is not considered a true ASL sign. It is Signed Excact English. However, since no ASL sign exists for it, I have seen even Deaf people I socialize with adopt that sign for Brocolli.
16:04:22 WeeHands my son was the pickiest eater as a baby - had to do a floor show to get him to eat and now he can't get enough broccoli, cauliflower or spinach! I'm truly amazed when he eats!
16:04:40 ourwiefamily My all consuming question of the day ... Maria turns 1 on Sunday.  She loves watching other people sign, but she seems to think it is primarily a spectator sport.  I try to encourage her to use her signs, but it is pretty rare.
16:04:52 ourwiefamily For a while, she would sign milk" while nursing but that's pretty much ended now."
16:04:52 weecansign I've got to go now, it was nice chatting with you
16:04:52 echo that is fantastic.
16:04:56 ourwiefamily Is that common?
16:05:22 ourwiefamily should I expect someday she will *use* the signs herself or will she always just grin at us when *we* sign to her?
16:05:33 WeeHands have a great week shannon and a wonderful vacation
16:05:36 WeeHands thanks for coming!
16:05:40 echo bye Shannon!!!
16:05:43 weecansign thanks! bye everyone!
16:05:53 ourwiefamily bye!  HOpefully next time I catch you all on the right time.
16:06:00 ourwiefamily anyone else have any input for me?
16:06:08 WeeHands does she attempt to imiate any of your movements  ourwiefamily ?
16:06:36 ourwiefamily not really
16:06:50 ourwiefamily most of the time, not at all
16:07:14 ourwiefamily she also doesn't really mimic sounds we make.  Just not a mimicker.
16:09:17 WeeHands keep signing with her - the signs for her favourite things as well as activities that happen frequently through the day
16:09:18 ourwiefamily to get her to sign, we have helped her hands form the signs.  We have also jumped on it any time we have seen her sign and given positive reinforcement.  She loves that.  But it doesn't seem to increase her use of it.
16:09:26 WeeHands try to sign before, during and after activities
16:09:46 WeeHands so before you give her a cookie sign COOKIE
16:09:54 WeeHands while she's eating the cookie sign COOKIE
16:10:08 echo How long have you been signing to her ourwiefamily?
16:10:12 WeeHands when she's done eating hte cookie, sign COOKIE FINISHED
16:10:12 ourwiefamily We do that with a lot of things.
16:10:32 ourwiefamily well ... must be about 6m?
16:10:52 LisaB we sign, cookie, more cookie, cookie finished. mostly he likes more cookie please!!
16:11:02 ourwiefamily The other kids all use the signs frequently through the day.  They sign to her when we ask a question.  Dh even signs to her the few signs he knows (mostly eat" lol)"
16:11:02 WeeHands :)
16:11:03 echo o.k. and what else is she involved in doing at the moment?
16:11:07 echo haha. cute.
16:11:30 echo what are her biggest challenges as a one year old?
16:12:06 echo could she be focusing a lot of her energy in trying to reach a different milestone? (crawling, teething, etc)
16:12:15 ourwiefamily hmmm ... good question.  She is still learning to walk.  She currently has an ear infection so I've signed sick" to her."
16:12:45 ourwiefamily yes, that is true ... she is still putting a lot of energy into some of those things, I think
16:12:56 ourwiefamily her mobility esp
16:13:20 echo It's important to consider where she is at right now... where she is putting her energy into... keep signing to her, perhaps once she overcomes her biggest challenge, she will have more energy to produce signs!
16:13:52 ourwiefamily thanks echo ... I will have to keep that in mind.  Sometimes I feel kind of discouraged.  I really wanted to do signing with my baby this time since I'd missed it w/ the others
16:14:13 mummoth how do you sign 'hurt'?
16:14:14 ourwiefamily and now all my other kids like to sign but she doesn't ... I guess I'm just afraid we will lose our momentum and enthusiasm before she really gets started
16:14:54 ourwiefamily I think it should help that we are giving her the baby signing times dvd set for her birthday ... new episodes might bring back some of the fun for all of us and maybe soon she will start signing!
16:15:12 echo I can understand your frusteration. Every child is different as well, so you just have to give them their space to go at their own pace.
16:15:33 ourwiefamily echo ... I know that deep down but goodness, I need to hear that from someone else!  Thank you!
16:15:35 echo Signing Time is soo many kids favorite DVD! I am sure she will LOVE it!
16:15:53 ourwiefamily I know she will ... we have the original 6 dvds and she adores them
16:16:04 ourwiefamily I actually think her comprehension level for signs is pretty good
16:16:23 ourwiefamily it's just that she thinks anyone signing is like a tv program to sit back and watch or something lol
16:18:05 WeeHands some little ones are big observers for a while as well
16:18:16 WeeHands she's the youngest of 6, right?
16:18:32 LisaB we have all 6 DVD;s of signing time and just recently got the Baby signing time...my 21 month old son  can't get enough of them
16:18:33 ourwiefamily yes
16:18:53 echo aahhh. Consider if you are allowing her to request" what she needs. Sometimes, we over anticipate what a child needs and we give it to them before they have a chance to express it themselves. (this is mother's instinct playing in)"
16:18:56 ourwiefamily (I mean ... yes, she is the youngest of 6)
16:19:11 echo just something else to consider.
16:19:12 WeeHands mummoth if you go to the website www.weehands.com you can click on an ASL dictionary at the bottom of the page
16:19:23 ourwiefamily I don't think we do that for her ... I try not to because we had a child w/ delayed speech once that was partly attributable to that
16:19:36 echo hhmm.
16:20:08 ourwiefamily but it's like ... she wants to nurse and she knows the sign for milk" ... but instead of signing "milk"when she wants to nurse, she will "tell" me by smashing her face down into my belly."
16:20:46 WeeHands ourwiefamily let me find you some information about communication temptations" - techniques frequently used by speech pathologists"
16:23:01 ourwiefamily I ask her if she wants milk" and use the sign and she just more urgently smashes into me sigh"
16:23:20 ourwiefamily when she is latched on, she *used to* then sign milk, but now she doesn't do that very often at all.  shrug
16:24:09 WeeHands i taught my son to sign fruit at 14 months using some of these temptations - i have a small can of fruit cocktail that he loved.
16:24:20 WeeHands i'd give him a small piece and sign fruit.
16:24:36 WeeHands he would indicate that he wanted more by leaning toward me and opening his mouth
16:24:47 WeeHands i continued to do this for about 10 bites
16:25:07 WeeHands after 10 bits (small ones) i would pause and hold the spoon up and sign fruit and wait....
16:25:21 WeeHands he would lean forward and let me know that he wanted more....
16:25:47 WeeHands I'd continue to do this for 5 more bites - showing the fruit, showing the sign...and waiting for a wee bit
16:25:59 WeeHands after a while i increased the pause
16:26:21 WeeHands we continued on with this with the pause getting along but NEVER frustrating him
16:26:34 WeeHands by the end of the can he was signing FRUIT back to me!
16:26:58 ourwiefamily I'm sure in a couple months I will look back and just roll my eyes at myself.  But man alive, I feel like I'm already to play this game" and my baby won't come out to play (lol)"
16:27:14 ourwiefamily I love the idea weehands
16:27:40 WeeHands you're doing fine!
16:28:00 echo Yes, it does sound like you are doing a great job ourwiefamily!
16:29:19 WeeHands Here are some more communicative temptations:
16:29:20 WeeHands Communicative Temptations  ð Activate a wind-up toy, let it deactivate, and hand it to the child.  ð Blow up a balloon and slowly deflate it; then hand the deflated balloon to the child and wait.  ð Open a jar of bubbles, blow bubbles, and then close the jar tightly and give the closed jar to the child.  ð Place a desired food item or toy in a jar that the child cannot open while the child is watching; then put the jar in front  of the child and wait.  ð Put interesting toys in a bag, and shake the bag to attract the child’s attention. Place the bag in front of the child and  encourage the child to take one of the toys out of the bag.
16:29:24 LisaB if you child is anything like my son...it took him a while to sign back but when he did... wow...watch out
16:29:53 WeeHands i hope you can read it!
16:30:14 WeeHands i must head out and pick up my babies, but please feel free to keep chatting!
16:30:23 LisaB it sounds like your child takes it all in so she probably really knows/understands much more than she is expressing...
16:30:42 WeeHands I'm going to end the chat officially so that Tina knows when to set the end of the transcript
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