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Signing With Babies Chat #45, with Sarah Bingham of WeeHands
( www.weehands.com )
1/12/06

6 mamas in attendance

16:22:35 WeeHands OFFICIAL START OF THE SIGNING WITH BABY CHAT! WELCOME! MY NAME IS SARA AND I AM YOUR HOSTESS TODAY! THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED AND POSTED ON THE SUNDAY FOLLOWING THIS CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :)
16:22:40 WeeHands hi there!
16:23:13 net Is it okay if I join in too
16:23:33 WeeHands of course it is!
16:23:34 MRSr hi, I have just started teaching my 14mo old daughter and 4 &1/2 yr old son
16:23:48 MRSr is there anything special I should know?
16:23:53 WeeHands wonderful, at those ages they will pick it up quickly
16:23:59 WeeHands wjat
16:24:01 WeeHands sorry
16:24:08 WeeHands what's your comfort level with signing?
16:24:13 MRSr they already are doing great
16:24:31 MRSr I am just learning myself, but have always wanted to learn
16:24:42 net I have a 4 month old and a 5 year old both boys
16:24:54 MRSr we also have a large deaf community in our town
16:25:51 WeeHands i would sign to them at what ever level you are comfortable with and focus on their favourite things and activities
16:26:00 WeeHands hi lisa!!
16:26:17 LisaB hey... am I in the right place?
16:26:19 WeeHands the 5 year old will really get a kick out of signing with your little one
16:26:28 WeeHands signing with babies chat!! :)
16:26:42 WeeHands roll call - where is everyone from!?
16:26:48 WeeHands just east of Toronto here!
16:26:49 MyYogaBaby hi all....just here to learn about signing.  I have a 9 mo old dd
16:26:53 MRSr california
16:26:54 net We like to sing probebly not as much as we should
16:27:08 MyYogaBaby Chicago...soon to be moving to Sacramento CA
16:27:16 net Im from creston B.C canada
16:27:35 MyYogaBaby are you all currently using signing?
16:27:36 LisaB Michigan, north of Detroit
16:27:38 WeeHands another canadian!!!
16:27:39 WeeHands yeah!
16:28:05 WeeHands wow, almost all 4 corners covered!
16:28:15 net thats great eh haha.
16:28:18 WeeHands 9 months is such a great age! well they all are!
16:28:40 MyYogaBaby she's really into copying now, so it would be pretty easy to get her to catch on
16:28:44 MyYogaBaby where do I start?
16:29:08 MRSr I just started and I also signed up for a class that starts at the end of this month it is from signing smart
16:29:19 WeeHands so we have a 4 month old, a 9 month old, a 14 month old, 2 years (Lisa?), 3 year old (my dd), a 4.5 years old, and 2 five year olds!
16:29:21 WeeHands cool!
16:29:33 WeeHands all signing or being signed to!  wonderful!!
16:29:38 MyYogaBaby well...I also have an almost 3 year old and a 5 year old
16:29:46 LisaB Jayden just turned 2 on December 13, 2005
16:29:53 WeeHands wow - you are busy and moving too!
16:30:09 WeeHands it's scary when the # of kids, outnumber the # of adults! :D
16:30:13 MyYogaBaby that's a whole other forum!  STRESS!  ha ha
16:30:26 WeeHands LOL
16:30:34 MyYogaBaby truly...me with a dh who travels to DC for work every other week!  I'm totally outnumbered
16:30:45 WeeHands oh no!
16:30:57 MyYogaBaby good thing they haven't gotten organized enough to really rally against me!
16:30:58 MRSr do you know anything about signing smart? (for wee hands)
16:31:18 WeeHands MyYogaBaby if she is copying that's wonderful - that's one of the first steps
16:31:25 MyYogaBaby yes...what is a good reference to begin?
16:31:44 WeeHands the creators of Signing Smart used to be Presenters with Sign2Me (www.sign2me.com)
16:32:16 WeeHands MyYogaBaby it depends on your comfort level with sign - but try at least to sign 10-12 signs to her a day throughout the day
16:32:24 WeeHands aiming at signing at least 30 times a day
16:32:31 MyYogaBaby can I learn the signs on that site?
16:32:43 WeeHands if you go to www.weehands.com
16:32:50 net I got the wrong  thing I thought it was singing not signing silly me but I m still interested
16:33:00 WeeHands we have a link to a dictionary towards the bottom of the site
16:33:16 WeeHands signing and singing is a wonderful thing - although hard to type!
16:33:28 MRSr wow, 30 that is helpfull- I was trying one per day and noticing that my daughter would pick it up after being shown twice (in the afternoon
16:33:50 MRSr ...she would already know the sign
16:33:50 WeeHands signing has got to be fun for our little ones - using lots of signs in songs is really helpful
16:33:59 net Is it hard to teach to the kids
16:34:21 WeeHands focus on things and activities that are really important to her (she's a fast learner!)
16:34:30 WeeHands ...and you're a great teacher!
16:34:59 WeeHands it's not hard if you make it lots of fun and focus on signs that are really meaningful to your child.
16:35:08 MRSr I was surprised how easily they pick it up-my son already knows all the signs I taught my daughter plus he knows good morning, sister and brother
16:35:23 WeeHands my son LOVED trains and anything aquatic when he was a baby so those were the signs we focussed on
16:35:37 net What kind of signs would be the most useful or are they all
16:35:53 WeeHands for my daughter it was ALL about food - so that's what we focussed on - her favourite foods
16:36:00 MRSr I wasn't sure if I should try to teach the baby things that are intangible, since she doesnt' know what good morning is or sister, etc
16:36:34 WeeHands you could still show them, with babies it's more using the signs yourself and they pick them up as you go along
16:36:35 MRSr or should I try to sign everything I say?
16:37:00 net I remember my first sons babysitter  show him some signs when he was a year old
16:37:33 WeeHands i never directly taught my son the sign for tea" but I was surprised one day when I pulled out the teapot and he signed the sign - I did it a few times weeks before when I was showing him "tea - hot""
16:37:55 WeeHands my 14 month old daughter also used please" quite a bit - thrilled her grandma!"
16:38:08 MRSr wee hands, do you teach a class?
16:38:21 WeeHands yes, and so does LisaB
16:38:29 WeeHands I'm in Toronto and Lisa is in Michigan
16:38:35 LisaB sorry, I'm here in the Background...
16:38:37 MyYogaBaby I had no idea people used it so conversationally!
16:38:49 MyYogaBaby I thought it was more like more food" or "thirsty" for basic needs!"
16:39:02 net Could you make up your own signs or use what is always used, how early should I start with 4 month old he is just starting to discover he can grab things
16:39:17 WeeHands my kids were playing in the backyard a few weeks ago and I had to sign no! shovel down now!" through the patio doors - they were trying to bury the dog in snow!"
16:39:34 WeeHands 4 months is a great time to start.
16:39:44 LisaB My son loves animals... and has picked up signs for pets - dog, cat, bunny, fish as well as farm and zoo animals...now when he looks at his books he signs identifies the animals himself
16:40:16 net How he doesn't seem to have the greatest control of his hands yet
16:40:28 MRSr I would suggest using the ASL  (American Sign Language) signs so that when they are older it will apply to more people
16:40:43 net Oh okay
16:40:50 WeeHands i started off teaching my son so we would know what he wanted but was most surprised when he just started sharing his day with us - look doggie", "it's windy", etc. not making requests but just kind of commenting on the world!"
16:40:52 LisaB ASL is more universally recognized
16:41:29 MRSr i've also heard that sometimes kids/babies don't sign the sign exactly right at first but it is sort of like talking in that they will get it right eventually
16:41:33 WeeHands net use ASL signs - that way you are teaching an actual language and there are lots of materials that you can find that will help, e.g., www.signingtime.com
16:41:52 MyYogaBaby If you had to pick the first 30 words or things you'd want to sign, what would your top 5 be?
16:42:15 LisaB Milk, Eat, More...top three...
16:42:24 WeeHands net signs are made up of at least 3 parts 1) handshape 2) movement 3) bodyspace.  Most wee ones get the movement and body space correct but have a hard time with the handshape.
16:42:43 net thanks wrote that down
16:42:44 WeeHands once you recognize that you can kind of see what your little one is trying to do
16:43:13 WeeHands eat, milk, more, mommy, daddy, finished
16:43:18 WeeHands that's 6!
16:43:34 net So as he gets older and has more control over his hands he will learn it better
16:43:42 WeeHands then look at things that are really motivating to your little one: ball, pasta, dog, etc. (all kids are different)
16:43:59 ourwiefamily hello ... catching the last few min of the chat.  :)
16:44:12 MRSr welcome
16:44:16 WeeHands as well as things/activiites that happen all the time during the day, e.g., change, eat, bath, sleep, no touch, etc.
16:44:21 WeeHands hi there  ourwiefamily !!!
16:44:25 WeeHands missed you!
16:44:53 MRSr is no touch 2 words ?
16:44:54 ourwiefamily yeah ... wish I'd been on the ball today and gotten here on time!  Oops.  :)
16:45:03 WeeHands MRSr yes, kids don't sign or speak perfectly clearly at first but there are rules as to why each approximation is created
16:45:26 WeeHands net yes as he gets older the handshapes will work themselves out
16:45:54 WeeHands just like 'nana' or 'bana' will someday become banana""
16:46:07 MyYogaBaby we'll start with eat, thirsty, sleepy, mommy, daddy, change...what else would be most easily added to our day?
16:46:14 WeeHands yeah, no touch" can be 2 words!"
16:46:58 MRSr thanks, I was just wondering because no is the index middle finger touching the thumb and what would touch be?
16:47:04 MyYogaBaby how would I look that up in the ASL dictionary?
16:47:15 net Great thanks but littles it up now hate to go but have too.  Catch you all next time
16:47:34 WeeHands how about ...water, ball, book, more, finished...  MyYogaBaby
16:47:58 MyYogaBaby good...more, finished....how do I do no touch"?"
16:48:12 WeeHands yes, no opens up and closes using those fingers and the thumb
16:48:22 MRSr sorry, I guess we could look it up
16:48:43 WeeHands touch = index finger of right or dominant hand touching" the back of the left / non-dominant hand"
16:48:48 ourwiefamily My 3yo was telling daddy the other day that you make diaper" by putting your "no"s on the hip bones, lol."
16:49:04 WeeHands that's right!
16:49:09 ourwiefamily I thought that was a cute way to describe diaper and never thought about the connection to no"!"
16:49:19 LisaB I love that description
16:49:28 WeeHands MyYogaBaby in an ASL dictionary you could look up the word for no" and then the word for "touch""
16:49:46 WeeHands i always signed no touch no" - so that "no" was the last thing they see!"
16:50:23 WeeHands but that is the way you sign diaper!
16:50:26 ourwiefamily I'm really enjoying the list (is it yours Sarah?) for signing to find out all the signs I don't know.  :)  Yogurt was a good one to know.
16:50:37 MyYogaBaby hey!  I'm looking in a dictionary...how come the MOM" sign reminds me of something that would be closer to "crazy" or "nutty"?  ha ha!!"
16:50:47 MRSr what list
16:50:57 WeeHands the yahoo! group  ourwiefamily ?
16:51:06 ourwiefamily yep ... signwithyourbaby
16:51:25 ourwiefamily I heard about it here last week so that's how I found it.
16:51:40 WeeHands i missed this chat last week :(
16:51:42 ourwiefamily or whatever week ... lol don't have good sense of time anymore
16:51:59 ourwiefamily it was just me and one of the other members of the yahoo list and I typed her eyes off.
16:52:01 WeeHands http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Signwithyourbaby/
16:52:06 WeeHands it's a wonderful resource!
16:52:13 MRSr thanks!
16:52:14 MyYogaBaby gotta run..baby is awake (there's another good word to learn)!
16:52:21 MyYogaBaby thanks for turning me on to this!
16:52:26 WeeHands take care  MyYogaBaby!
16:52:41 ourwiefamily Maria (15mo) is doing something very cute now.
16:53:07 WeeHands if you join that group - whenever you don't know a sign you can just send a message and someone (or more) will respond!
16:53:08 ourwiefamily One day she started signing stuff and I was trying to figure out what she was telling me ... finally realized she was just running through her sign vocabulary list.
16:53:37 ourwiefamily I was so lost!  I was like more, food, bird, dog, hat? What are you saying here exactly?""
16:53:51 ourwiefamily but then I realized she was initiating a game w/ me.
16:54:01 ourwiefamily She's picking up new signs so fast now.  It's just awesome.
16:54:09 MRSr thanks weehands I will go there, very cute wei fam
16:54:37 WeeHands that's hilarious  ourwiefamily !
16:54:57 WeeHands how old is she  ourwiefamily ?
16:55:08 MRSr does this chat go till 2?
16:55:11 ourwiefamily she *loves* to sign bird and it cracks me up becasue the only place she has seen the sign is on the signing time dvds .. we don't have books w/ birds or see real birds or anything.
16:55:18 ourwiefamily she is 15 months old now
16:55:20 MRSr or sorry for one hour?
16:55:35 LisaB My son loves to play the yes" "no" game... he says NO I say/signs Yes...over and over...sounds like a bugs bunny routine"
16:55:38 ourwiefamily Oh and her sign for bird is a little backwards ... so she just points at her nose over and over, tapping it.
16:55:51 ourwiefamily The chat is officially coming to an end, it was just scheduled for an hour
16:56:00 ourwiefamily but we can keep chatting until everyone wants to leave
16:56:10 ourwiefamily Lisa ... very cute.  lol
16:56:25 MRSr thanks, I got a lot of information but I really need to make lunch for me and my son--take care
16:56:31 MRSr bye
16:56:35 LisaB it is fun, especially when I reverse things...it stops him for just a moment. LOL
16:56:51 ourwiefamily Maria has also started doing the signs on other people.  We did that when we were teaching her ... so now she does it back.  She signs bird on her then signs it on me.  he he he  Or tries to cram the imaginary food in *my* mouth (ick!)
16:57:10 WeeHands the chat will need to conclude in 4 minutes :(
16:57:11 ourwiefamily I figured out a way to deal with the weaning too ... mentioned my problem w/ that  on the list.
16:57:22 ourwiefamily I should write in what I ended up doing.
16:57:44 WeeHands it's great when you can see that they are joking in sign!
16:57:47 ourwiefamily She signs want" very similar to "milk" (and uses "milk" to mean "nurse"), so I just play dumb and ask her what she wants."
16:58:24 ourwiefamily and I ask if she wants food ... or does she want water and usually one of those will satisfy her needs.
16:58:51 WeeHands you could also ask her if she just wants hugs or cuddles :)
16:58:55 ourwiefamily We are only nursing once every couple days or so now.  :(  I will miss this chapter of our lives.  I wish I wasn't needing to wean her but the weaning is actually oging pretty well.
16:59:20 ourwiefamily She gets the hugs and cuddles now.  LOL  She used to never really take time for that with me ... wiggle out of my arms and all.  Now she comes and pat pats me and rubs my back and all that.
16:59:46 ourwiefamily Oh ... she uses Please and Sorry signs now and I'm pretty sure she used Owie!  I was so surprised.  I don't think she knows what sorry means still though.
16:59:52 WeeHands kids are great!!
16:59:53 ourwiefamily But please she uses to get what she wants.  ;)
17:00:07 WeeHands and they are very very smart!
17:00:13 WeeHands smarter than us!
17:00:15 ourwiefamily how can I say no to that one?  She is so adorable when she signs please all over her belly and chest , little cutie
17:00:50 ourwiefamily Lisa ... how old is your son?
17:00:53 WeeHands going to have to run now but y'all can stay chatting if you want!
17:01:00 WeeHands be sure to check in next week as well!
17:01:06 ourwiefamily will try to be here on time!!!
17:01:12 LisaB as of December 13, 2005
17:01:12 WeeHands it's been awesome!
17:01:43 ourwiefamily did I miss the age Lisa?  I see a date!
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