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20:26:11 |
mod_littleants |
WELCOME to babywearing!!! |
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20:28:07 |
Nancy |
hello |
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20:29:53 |
mod_littleants |
Hi Nancy welcome. |
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20:30:13 |
Nancy |
thanks...it's my first time here so not
really sure how this works |
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20:30:20 |
mod_littleants |
Do you have any specific questions, or
just come to chat? |
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20:30:43 |
mod_littleants |
well, how it works depends on how many
people come. We just moved the day so
the attendance has still been a little
slow. |
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20:31:11 |
Nancy |
ok...I came to check out if there would
be new ideas for babywearing :) |
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20:31:44 |
mod_littleants |
what do you currently use? and how old
are your kids? |
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20:32:45 |
Nancy |
I only carry my youngest, she's 8.5
months old...I use a frontal carrier
(snuggly), I have a solarveil ring sling
and a denim ring sling...the solarveil
slips so I don't use it much...only when
it's really hot |
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20:33:44 |
mod_littleants |
Have you tried wraps or any asian baby
carriers such as a podaegi or mei tai |
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20:34:30 |
Nancy |
no...I was actually wondering if I
should use a tube but I'm afraid it
would be hard to nurse in |
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20:35:39 |
mod_littleants |
Have you tried tying knots in the solar
veil? |
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20:35:59 |
Nancy |
oohhh...didn't think of that...good
idea! |
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20:36:35 |
Nancy |
I was using the snuggly most of the time
for walks but it's getting uncomfortable
as she's growing bigger...I would rather
hip carry than front...:) |
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20:37:04 |
mod_littleants |
I have always made my own slings and
they start slipping at about 18 lbs. I
hear people with maya not complain of
that, but I am not sure. |
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20:37:40 |
Nancy |
what about nursing in a maya? |
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20:37:45 |
mod_littleants |
I usually use a didymos (wrap) on either
my back or my front for our walks and
can go about 3 hours comfortably with my
25 lbs son. |
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20:38:00 |
mod_littleants |
a maya would nurse easily you just drop
the rings and nurse. |
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20:38:38 |
mod_littleants |
I don't think it is as comfortable for
long walks though b/c it gets tiring on
your shoulder. For long walks, i think
you want both shoulders and your waist
all involved. |
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20:39:23 |
Nancy |
ok...like my snuggly |
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20:39:53 |
mod_littleants |
Well not exactly. |
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20:40:02 |
mod_littleants |
Do you have the snuggli with the
shoulders and waist? |
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20:40:07 |
Nancy |
yes |
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20:40:29 |
mod_littleants |
i have the same one and I don't use it
b/c i don't find it distributes the
weight well. |
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20:41:03 |
mod_littleants |
Since it is something you are putting
your baby in and then putting on your
body, it tends to pull on certain areas
instead of distributing the weight all
over. |
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20:41:30 |
Nancy |
that's why I'm looking for something
else...up to now it wasn't a problem as
my dd is small but she's getting heavier
now I get back pains |
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20:41:59 |
mod_littleants |
if you put the baby directly up to you,
your body takes the weight in a more
ergonomically correct way. |
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20:42:11 |
mod_littleants |
A simple carrier is the Ergo. |
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20:42:29 |
mod_littleants |
I find that all the snaps and buckles
aren't really necessary and don't give
me the versitality that I want. |
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20:42:40 |
mod_littleants |
so i like mei tai and wraps a lot more. |
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20:43:02 |
mod_littleants |
a wrap is simple (once you learn it) and
you can do front, back, hip carries with
it. |
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20:43:28 |
Nancy |
that's what I did with my ring sling |
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20:44:52 |
mod_littleants |
the back and front too? |
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20:45:10 |
Nancy |
front and hip...but as I said it kept
slipping :) |
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20:45:17 |
mod_littleants |
depending on the length of the ring
sling, you could probably do some back
carries with it. |
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20:45:31 |
mod_littleants |
Did you do one shoulder or two on the
front? |
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20:45:48 |
Nancy |
my denim was good and didn't slip but
it's padded and small I'll have to
change it... |
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20:45:51 |
Nancy |
I did one shoulder |
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20:47:25 |
mod_littleants |
you might also want to check out
www.mamatoto.org or www.littleants.com
to look at some other carry options. |
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20:47:49 |
mod_littleants |
I find that one of the things that helps
the most is to change how you wear the
baby. this way the same body parts
aren't always being over taxed. |
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20:50:10 |
Nancy |
usually I'll use the snuggli while my
toddler is playing outside so I can
watch her and will pace in the street
while she rides her bike but as I said
earlier...I'm starting to get back pains
because I tend to lean backwards to
re-distribute the weight |
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20:50:16 |
Nancy |
so I don't fall face first...LOL |
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20:51:34 |
mod_littleants |
I think the wrap helps elevate that b/c
the baby is being strapped directly to
you and doesn't pull away from the your
body (until they get older and try to
squirm out of it :) ) |
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20:52:43 |
Nancy |
I also use a carrier for shopping so
I'll have to look at a new thing and
soon... :) I will check out your
websites...do you sell on those? |
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20:52:49 |
Nancy |
online I mean? |
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20:54:15 |
mod_littleants |
I sell at Little Ants. The mamatoto
site is a nonprofit babywearing site
that is a wealth of information on the
hows and whys of babywearing. |
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20:54:39 |
Nancy |
and do you ship to Canada? |
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20:55:12 |
mod_littleants |
yes i do. |
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20:55:22 |
mod_littleants |
i ship anywhere but nigeria :) |
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20:55:27 |
Nancy |
great... LOL |
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20:55:51 |
Nancy |
I'll have a look at both sites then and
try to find a better type of carrier |
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20:55:52 |
mod_littleants |
btw how did you hear about the chat? |
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20:56:36 |
Nancy |
oh...I'm on a forum for breastfeeding
and someone mentioned a chat with Dr.
Newman tomorrow so I came to check out
the sites and signed up for the
newsletter |
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20:57:04 |
Nancy |
I got a message saying there was a chat
about babywearing this evening |
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20:58:04 |
mod_littleants |
cool. i am so excited about tomorrows
Jack Newman chat. I am hearing him
later this month at a conference. |
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20:59:04 |
Nancy |
he did one in Ottawa in may but I missed
it...can't wait to read his chat
tomorrow...he's a great doctor and
helped me alot when my baby was born |
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20:59:58 |
mod_littleants |
i am glad to hear that breastfeeding is
going well now thanks to him. Now you
just need great ways to carry your baby
and you will be all set :) |
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21:00:46 |
Nancy |
yes...I love babywearing...I'm just
sorry it never worked with my first...I
guess I was not as informed as I am and
was using the wrong tools |
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21:01:48 |
mod_littleants |
I did they same with my first. I wore
him in our snuggli, but I did it more
for him then for my ease or comfort. he
was even a skinny little guy. |
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21:02:59 |
Nancy |
my first never cared for the snuggli...I
had another one, a snuggli ring sling
type of thing and she would scream her
head off every time I tried to put her
in either...my second was carried from
the day she was born... LOL |
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21:04:35 |
mod_littleants |
i don't think the snuggle ring sling
looks comfy b/c they can't see
anything. maybe my kids are just nosey. |
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21:06:05 |
Nancy |
that's what I think too...I discovered
the ring sling at a BF support group and
that's when I got the denim one it was
great when she was smaller but it's a
small sling and I don't think she'll fit
in anymore now that she's grown |
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21:07:16 |
mod_littleants |
she might fit for a hip carry since that
uses about the same amount of fabric as
her whole body used to. |
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21:08:10 |
Nancy |
I'll have to try it...didn't use it all
summer cause it was soooo hot :) |
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21:09:18 |
mod_littleants |
yeah i hear you on that. I told my
husband we should have the next baby in
the winter so it is easier to babywear.
even with the indio didymos (which is
extremely breathable) you get hot at 90
degrees. |
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21:11:04 |
Nancy |
both my girls were born in the
winter...I love it...we'll plan the next
one for winter too |
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21:11:51 |
mod_littleants |
i have done feb and may and both were
great. |
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21:12:40 |
Nancy |
I liked establishing a good BF
relationship in the winter when it's not
too hot |
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21:13:28 |
mod_littleants |
that is true that is nice. it gets
really cold here though so i am always a
little concerned. |
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21:14:27 |
Nancy |
here too but still we cover them well
and don't go out when it's too cold
unless we drive somewhere then we heat
the car before we leave |
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21:16:01 |
mod_littleants |
my house is old and it is just cold all
the time. |
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21:16:13 |
Nancy |
aaahh I get it |
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21:16:53 |
Nancy |
I was hot all the time when nursing my
babies... so much so my nipples would
invert... LOL |
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21:17:06 |
Nancy |
that's why I prefer winter babies |
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21:17:36 |
mod_littleants |
wow you must really get hot esp being so
far north. we are thinking of moving to
WI, and I get cold just thinking about
it. |
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21:18:02 |
Nancy |
LOL |
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21:18:15 |
Nancy |
yeah...I'm a hot blooded woman...LOL |
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21:21:02 |
COZyMOM |
hello |
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21:21:17 |
mod_littleants |
hi |
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21:21:29 |
Nancy |
hello |
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21:21:49 |
mod_littleants |
sorry i was nursing and changing a wet
diaper |
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21:21:53 |
COZyMOM |
finally a chat where there's people! |
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21:22:38 |
Nancy |
it's ok...would a mei tai be good for
long walks? I was checking your website
just now |
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21:22:45 |
mod_littleants |
I am glad to know my chat isn't the only
small one. I don't really do web boards
so advertising is a problem. |
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21:23:49 |
mod_littleants |
i think it is more comfortable then a
snuggli is. they are really easy to use
and quite comfy. they are great at home
b/c they go on and off so easily. |
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21:24:30 |
Nancy |
it looks comfy |
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21:24:39 |
Nancy |
doesn't slip? like the ring sling? |
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21:25:15 |
walkerclan5 |
Hello. |
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21:25:35 |
walkerclan5 |
I jsut went to the littleants website!
*smiles*..very cool |
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21:26:53 |
mod_littleants |
it doesn't slip b/c you are knotting
it. actually the people that the ring
sling was modeled after also just knot
the fabric. |
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21:26:58 |
mod_littleants |
thanks walkerclan5 |
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21:27:50 |
walkerclan5 |
You have some really awesome stuff
there. I really like all the different
kinds of wraps. I have only every used
the sling type wrap...but am thinking of
going for the back carrier type fabric
one with this baby. |
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21:28:46 |
mod_littleants |
i just learned back carries with this my
second and i have to say that life has
been nice. like you can cook without
risking burning anyone. still not sure
what cooking is, but that is what I
hear. :) |
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21:29:12 |
Nancy |
I find the snuggli leaves deep red marks
on dd's legs...would the mei tai do
something similar? |
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21:29:16 |
Nancy |
LOL |
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21:30:49 |
mod_littleants |
no. it holds them frog legged and on
their bottoms instead of daggling by
their crotch. you can go to didymos.de
for more info on why babies should be
frog legged. |
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21:31:07 |
walkerclan5 |
awesome |
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21:31:27 |
Nancy |
and if wearing in front can they be
placed face forward of do they have to
face you? |
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21:32:11 |
walkerclan5 |
can a back carrier be used for a
newborn? I tink I might feel nervous
about that a little bit . and how easy
is it to get it on and off by yourself? |
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21:32:23 |
mod_littleants |
you can cross their legs over and face
out. the wraps are easier to do outward
facing then the mei tai, but it works
with either. |
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21:32:46 |
walkerclan5 |
love the look of the mei tai..hmm |
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21:33:09 |
mod_littleants |
i would say if you plan to back carry
with a newborn and haven't before,
practice without baby first with a doll.
it can be done and is done in many
cultures throughout the world. |
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21:33:38 |
mod_littleants |
you can also do a mei tai on the back
with a newborn. you just tie the straps
higher to provide head support. |
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21:33:49 |
walkerclan5 |
but I suppose I could always wear in the
front like you said above....they just
look so dran comfy *smiles* |
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21:34:48 |
mod_littleants |
it is important to be comfy or you
aren't going to want to wear as much as
your baby wants/needs |
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21:34:50 |
walkerclan5 |
awesome! I think I need to be getting
one of those. my 3 yo still goes in the
sling jsut about everyday for sling
time. now that bean inside is getting
rounder *smiles* that sling time is
getting a wee bit harder. |
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21:35:08 |
walkerclan5 |
My 5 yo also had sling time till she was
like 3-4 |
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21:35:48 |
mod_littleants |
i have a friend preg with twins that
wore her daughter on her back 8mo
pregnant. she said it helped keep her
from toppling forward. she just tied
under her belly. |
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21:36:03 |
walkerclan5 |
I dont know what I would ahve done , had
I not had my trusty old sling thats for
sure.. |
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21:36:21 |
walkerclan5 |
The sling I have presently though across
across the front. with a ring on the
soulder. |
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21:36:29 |
mod_littleants |
i know. i still love my sling for short
trips, but i really like to involve my
whole torso for longer trips. |
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21:36:51 |
walkerclan5 |
I do put it on my back but it stilll
cuts across....maybe I could get the mei
one and be able to carry dd in it as
well as new babe |
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21:38:16 |
Nancy |
I think the mei tai would be the answer
for me |
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21:38:26 |
walkerclan5 |
Its amazing to me too that people have
been carrying their children FOEVER and
people still look at me strange when I
am slinging my kids rather then pusing
them....a crime really. I guess it takes
all kinds. |
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21:38:37 |
walkerclan5 |
ya me too Nancy....how old are your
child/ren? |
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21:38:58 |
Nancy |
almost 3 y/o and 8.5 months |
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21:39:18 |
walkerclan5 |
are you using a sling now? or jsut
looking to get into one? |
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21:39:37 |
Nancy |
I have a snuggli frontal carrier and a
ring sling |
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21:39:49 |
walkerclan5 |
how are you finding the ring sling? |
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21:39:53 |
Nancy |
I'm looking to replace the frontal
carrier |
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21:39:55 |
mod_littleants |
i actually had someone ask me if my
babies head was going to pop off once
when he was in a wrap. |
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21:40:04 |
Nancy |
LOL |
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21:40:06 |
walkerclan5 |
I love mine, but with all the other
great ones, I think I may be converted. |
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21:40:16 |
walkerclan5 |
ROFL@mod |
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21:40:30 |
Nancy |
I like the sling but it slips and not
comfy for long walks or shopping |
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21:41:15 |
walkerclan5 |
thats so funny...I was slinging my
youngest DD when she was about 5 months
old in a mall...and I wanted to get
closer to look at something so a moved
her to the back a bit..this woman in
line behind me was like ..OMG shes going
to fall out...thats so |
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21:41:21 |
walkerclan5 |
dangerous..omg...lol |
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21:41:54 |
mod_littleants |
people just don't always think very
thoroughly. |
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21:42:04 |
mod_littleants |
I haven't dropped a baby yet... |
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21:42:06 |
walkerclan5 |
Nancy....ya..I find the same thing...Its
not as handy for doing anything to
lengthy. I like the ability to be able
to put babe right on tthe back |
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21:42:09 |
mod_littleants |
at least not out of a carrier. |
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21:42:09 |
Nancy |
at my BF support group alot of women
babywear so the people around are used
to seeing it...lol |
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21:43:15 |
mod_littleants |
it is funny b/c in denmark we got a lot
of people interested saything who great
our sling was and we come back here and
babies heads are popping off. i do get
many positive comments though. |
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21:43:24 |
walkerclan5 |
ya me either....I LOVE doing dishes
carrying baby...lol..I know that might
sound strange....but all of my children
have helped" with dishes from about 5
months of age..lol....they play in the
water and giggle and play with the
containers...love that" |
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21:44:07 |
walkerclan5 |
lol....heads popping off..thats so
bizarre.....well you could run up to a
stroller and panic to the mother and say
..omh he is going to run over
something...lol |
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21:44:10 |
mod_littleants |
when my son was 2 months sometimes that
would be all that would make him happy
was to do dishes. the soap the water, it
is a major stress reliever |
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21:44:32 |
walkerclan5 |
totally, little...totally....and the
sound of filling the sink...love that. |
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21:44:48 |
Nancy |
my dd is always fussy when I'm making
dinner so I could put her on my back and
still be able to cook |
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21:45:00 |
mod_littleants |
i just don't understand babies that are
happy in infant carriers" all day. my
kids wouldn't even sit in it long enough
to drive to the grocery store." |
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21:45:43 |
walkerclan5 |
I saw this woman on one of the craft
things I am on, she amde her own sling
.....but she made the sling right into a
shirt...it was incrediable..she has gone
on now to start her own business..but
what a fab idea....for those cold
days...babys right inside |
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21:45:57 |
walkerclan5 |
your sweatshirt..sort of like a kangroo
pouch but on the back. |
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21:46:13 |
mod_littleants |
interesting... |
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21:46:32 |
walkerclan5 |
lol@ little....ya mine either...my
grandmother tried to tell me that all my
children havd ADHD becuase they wont sit
mindlessly in a playpen |
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21:46:35 |
mod_littleants |
i have made my own slings but nothing
that fancy. i usually just do front
carries and wrap us both in a coat. |
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21:46:44 |
walkerclan5 |
*) |
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21:47:56 |
walkerclan5 |
thats what I havone done too...but this
is sort of like a shirt with a hood, but
rather then a hood is a pouch...lol...with
baby sticking out..lol....it looked like
a really neat concept. |
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21:48:36 |
Nancy |
ladies I have to run...thanks for all
the information Katie |
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21:48:54 |
walkerclan5 |
Thank you so much for the info on the
back carriers...alas I need to sleep... |
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21:49:29 |
mod_littleants |
me too come back next week for more
chatting. :) good night. |
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21:49:35 |
Nancy |
:) |
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21:49:37 |
walkerclan5 |
Have a good one all! I thinkI will! |
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21:49:40 |
walkerclan5 |
later all! |
