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11:01:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hello and welcome everyone |
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11:01:47 |
Mod_Beckie |
Good Morning!! |
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11:02:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
ALRIGHT |
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11:02:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you all for coming |
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11:02:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know its early for us westcoasters |
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11:02:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:02:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
First off this morning I'd like to have a quick recap of
the chat last time |
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11:03:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
it was a great sucess and we came up with some wonderful
ideas |
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11:03:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
since the last chat, we, ariana and myself |
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11:03:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
have started a Live Journal community called adopt a mom |
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11:03:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
(sorry tantrum over here) |
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11:03:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana, can you take the floor an let everyone know a
bit about AAM please |
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11:04:04 |
MOD_Ariana |
Sure |
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11:04:16 |
MOD_Ariana |
Adopt A Mom is a group of mothers who have “been there
done that” when it comes to breastfeeding. These women
are volunteering their time to help out new moms and
moms to be on a one on one basis online through
education and support. |
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11:04:28 |
MOD_Ariana |
There are currently 31 mentors in the community with a
total of 65 (!) years of breastfeeding experience. |
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11:04:43 |
MOD_Ariana |
Right now we have 17 new moms and moms to be in our
program. |
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11:04:57 |
MOD_Ariana |
We’re still working out our kinks and trying to get
things organized behind the scenes so we can open it
wide to even more new moms. |
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11:05:13 |
MOD_Ariana |
We need more mentors, women who are well educated and
passionate about breastfeeding. We need women who can
give good advice and support and who know where to go
for good information. |
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11:05:21 |
Mod_Beckie |
WOW! That sounds great! |
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11:05:40 |
MOD_Ariana |
If you are interested in being a breastfeeding mentor or
know someone who may be drop by this live journal post
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/712.html
(comments are screened so only other members of the
community can see) |
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11:06:00 |
MOD_Ariana |
If you are a pregnant mom who wants a mentor to help you
out with breastfeeding go to this post
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16919.html
(again comments are screened so only the mentors can see
what you write) |
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11:06:12 |
MOD_Ariana |
If you have already had your baby and would like to be
matched with a mentor for breastfeeding help go to this
post
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16823.html
(comments screened so only the mentors can see what you
write) |
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11:06:34 |
MOD_Ariana |
I think a few of you here in the chat are mentors in
this community right now |
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11:06:42 |
flutterby77 |
Yep :) |
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11:06:44 |
Jynxgirl |
I am one |
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11:06:45 |
xxveigaxx |
indeed |
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11:06:47 |
willowsmom |
singing up now |
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11:06:50 |
willowsmom |
signing |
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11:07:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
AWESOME |
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11:07:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
Thank you Ariana |
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11:07:29 |
Mod_Beckie |
me too! I would love to help! |
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11:07:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
so for the mentors that are in AAM already |
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11:07:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
is there anything that we can do to improve our service? |
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11:08:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
any complaints, gripes suggestions? |
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11:08:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
the floor is open |
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11:08:43 |
flutterby77 |
Nothing springs to my mind right now |
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11:08:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
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11:08:55 |
flutterby77 |
Other than promotion, promotion promotion lol |
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11:08:58 |
willowsmom |
Ok...I have a question... |
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11:08:59 |
willowsmom |
lol |
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11:09:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
shoot |
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11:09:09 |
willowsmom |
Is this for online support or IRL support? |
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11:09:12 |
willowsmom |
or both |
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11:09:14 |
Jynxgirl |
I think if we get more moms than mentors, it would be a
good idea to ask the mentors if they can handle more
than one mom. I know that with my current mom, I could
handle more than one. |
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11:09:14 |
MOD_Ariana |
online |
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11:09:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
a little of both |
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11:09:18 |
willowsmom |
K :) |
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11:09:25 |
Mod_Beckie |
I have a question? |
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11:09:30 |
willowsmom |
ty |
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11:09:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
if you feel comfortable talking with your mentoree on
the phone |
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11:09:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
then by all means |
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11:10:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
of course we are not a substitute for RL support either |
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11:10:02 |
MOD_Ariana |
It's mostly online though because we don't have enough
right now to be in every city |
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11:10:16 |
willowsmom |
that makes sense :) |
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11:10:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
our first thing to tell new moms and moms to be is to
get RL support from LLL or friends family |
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11:10:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
shoot becky |
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11:10:32 |
Mod_Beckie |
I don't have Live Journal, Can I post to me own Blog? |
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11:10:46 |
Mod_Beckie |
my own blog, LOL! I do speak english... |
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11:10:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
good question |
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11:10:59 |
MOD_Ariana |
The thing is that the LJ community acts as a hub |
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11:11:02 |
MOD_Ariana |
for the mentors |
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11:11:11 |
Mod_Beckie |
Okay, well, I guess I can join |
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11:11:12 |
MOD_Ariana |
Where the mods/administrators |
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11:11:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
right, and basically all the articles that are written
are eventually going on the breastfeedingisnormal.org
site |
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11:11:38 |
MOD_Ariana |
Eventually I think we'd love to move it off LJ and onto
it's own site |
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11:11:44 |
MOD_Ariana |
but that's a little ways down the road |
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11:11:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
(ariana, message me on aim please) |
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11:11:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
well that is our main goal |
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11:12:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
the bfingisnormal site was the catalyst for AAM |
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11:12:02 |
Jynxgirl |
Speaking of which, I am going to work on the diabetes
one today. It's on my computer in Newmarket, and all I
have here is my laptop. |
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11:12:15 |
Mod_Beckie |
okay, no worries, I can join, just don't expect much of
an exciting blog from me, ;) |
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11:12:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's fine |
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11:12:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
just post your nursing story in there |
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11:12:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
heck you could even do an RSS feed from your other blog
;) |
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11:13:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
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11:13:24 |
Mod_Beckie |
cool |
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11:13:37 |
Jynxgirl |
brb... nak |
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11:13:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
so with the AAm thing, even if you're not a mentor,
we're always looking for articles for the site |
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11:13:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
for the community |
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11:13:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
so if you're interested in that |
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11:14:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
A can you put up the AAM email please |
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11:14:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can email AAM directly or
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org as well |
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11:14:22 |
MOD_Ariana |
adopt.a.mom.admin@gmail.com |
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11:14:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
great |
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11:14:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
next up is the bfingisnormal flyers |
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11:15:00 |
mnfiddledragon |
thank you, housepoet, for mentioning this on LJ :) |
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11:15:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:15:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
sure |
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11:15:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
v |
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11:15:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
bascially what we discussed in the last chat was funny
and informative flyers for download |
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11:15:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
where a mother can download, print and post anywhere she
pleases |
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11:16:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
mostly in restrooms, dressing rooms and the like where
mother's are often asked to move when breastfeeding |
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11:16:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
We are working on a series of flyers, ranging from nice
and sweet to not so nice |
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11:16:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
so depending on your personal take on formula |
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11:16:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:16:45 |
willowsmom |
lol |
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11:16:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can be as nasty as you want to be |
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11:16:54 |
flutterby77 |
:D |
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11:16:57 |
willowsmom |
That's right up my alley :) |
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11:17:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
We're looking into some posting of flyers laws in each
state |
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11:17:08 |
flutterby77 |
I want to put a whole wall of flyers over the formula
section |
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11:17:10 |
Jynxgirl |
lol... I'm in |
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11:17:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
so if anyone is familiar with that, or would like to
reseach that |
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11:17:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
then let us now |
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11:17:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
RIGHT |
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11:17:25 |
flutterby77 |
I can find out for Canada |
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11:17:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's what we are ttalking about |
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11:17:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
we're thinking of a fake sergon general's warning to go
near formula |
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11:17:56 |
flutterby77 |
lol |
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11:17:58 |
willowsmom |
Ooo I like it! |
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11:18:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
and of course keeping an eye out on your local circulars
to see if businesses are advertising formula |
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11:18:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
which of course is against the WHO code |
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11:18:40 |
Mod_Beckie |
hmmm, I am sure I just saw that in the Target ad last
sunday... |
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11:18:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
We also need some volenteers to write pitch proposals
for the site |
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11:18:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
as in |
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11:19:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
teaching mom's to represent BFIN.org to local copy shops
and as for copy donations |
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11:19:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
so if anyone has expertise in that area, email us at
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:19:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
it would be a page on what to say to solicit donations |
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11:20:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
just copy donations, not money |
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11:20:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
so beck you saw a target ad for formula? |
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11:20:27 |
willowsmom |
I have another question about Live Journal when you get
the chance |
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11:20:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
go for it |
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11:20:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
the floor is open |
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11:21:01 |
willowsmom |
Ok...my blog is...ermm...opinionated and may be
offensive.. lol should I change that at all? |
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11:21:14 |
Mod_Beckie |
yes, I did |
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11:21:15 |
MOD_Ariana |
I think a lot of the women who are mentors have blogs
like that |
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11:21:18 |
Mod_Beckie |
I have to find it again |
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11:21:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
hah |
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11:21:31 |
Jynxgirl |
I can talk to the local breastfeeding toddler group moms
to see if they're on board if you'd like |
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11:21:33 |
willowsmom |
:) |
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11:21:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
have you been called a boob nazi? |
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11:21:43 |
willowsmom |
I was a member of Boob_nazi. lol |
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11:21:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
well then that's alright |
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11:22:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
my journal has been the cause of many an e-fight |
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11:22:17 |
flutterby77 |
I am a boob Nazi :p |
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11:22:18 |
willowsmom |
but my blog is opinionated about politics and religion
mostly. lol |
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11:22:19 |
Jynxgirl |
lol... housepoet, I think that's an understatement. :) |
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11:22:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
heh |
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11:22:23 |
willowsmom |
lol |
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11:22:24 |
MOD_Ariana |
As long as you aren't saying things against
breastfeeding! |
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11:22:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
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11:22:31 |
flutterby77 |
Exactly |
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11:22:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
jinx |
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11:22:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:22:37 |
willowsmom |
Ohh no way. :) It's saved my hide TONS of times |
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11:22:40 |
MOD_Ariana |
Now THAT's offensive |
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11:22:40 |
willowsmom |
and will again tomorrow |
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11:22:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
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11:22:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
any other questions? |
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11:23:05 |
Mod_Beckie |
Here's the page, see if you can pull it up |
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11:23:07 |
Mod_Beckie |
http://weeklyad.target.com/target/circular_browse_page_view.asp?storeid=2395146&rapid=137819&pagenumber=28&
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11:23:15 |
Jynxgirl |
did we ever find out about printing things cheaply or
free of charge for those of us without printers? |
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11:24:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes becky that is a violation |
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11:24:13 |
MOD_Ariana |
That's the pitch we're talking about working on |
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11:24:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes jynx, scroll up a bit |
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11:24:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
we just talked about that |
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11:24:38 |
willowsmom |
who would we go to in the company to let them know? |
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11:24:40 |
MOD_Ariana |
I never thought about that being a violation of the who
code |
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11:24:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
we need a pitch writer so we can make a page that moms
or dad's can familiarize themselves with |
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11:24:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
so they can walk into their local copy shop and solicit
the copies for free |
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11:25:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
yep completely |
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11:25:12 |
flutterby77 |
Wait, it's not ok for them to advertise the sale of
formula? |
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11:25:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
who is the maker if enfamil? |
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11:25:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
no it's against the WHO code |
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11:25:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
no advertising of formula |
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11:25:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
it doesn't matter that it's on sale |
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11:25:39 |
mnfiddledragon |
willowsmom: you could probably write to either the
marketing dept, or some such at Corp headquarters |
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11:25:42 |
willowsmom |
Mead Johnson |
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11:25:51 |
willowsmom |
Cool, Thanks Dragon :) |
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11:25:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
we should get promom involved int his as well |
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11:26:05 |
willowsmom |
Mead Johnson makes Enfamil, I meant |
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11:26:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you willow |
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11:26:09 |
Jynxgirl |
LMAO |
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11:26:12 |
mnfiddledragon |
is there a link to the WHO code? |
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11:26:13 |
willowsmom |
certainly :) |
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11:26:22 |
Jynxgirl |
I just tried to look at that link and it crashed my
browsers! |
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11:26:28 |
MOD_Ariana |
Is it against the code for *Target* to advertise it |
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11:26:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.who.int/nut/#inf |
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11:26:38 |
MOD_Ariana |
or only for the formula manufaturers |
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11:27:04 |
mnfiddledragon |
that would help in writing to companies...it would also
help in educating ourselves and making sure we have our
facts straight - so that we can write more effective
letters |
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11:27:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's what I'm looking for |
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11:27:21 |
Jynxgirl |
I believe the code states that it's against the code for
anyone to advertise it |
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11:27:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
1. No advertising of breast milk substitutes to mothers
2. No free samples of breast milk substitutes to
mothers 3. No promotion of products through health
facilities 4. No company sales representatives to
advise mothers 5. No gifts or personal samples to
health care workers 6. No words or pictures idealizing
artificial feeding, including pictures of infants on
the labels of the products 7. Information to health
workers should be scientific and factual 8. All
information on artificial feeding, including the labels,
should explain the benefits of breastfeeding and the
costs and hazards associated with artificial feeding 9.
Unsuitable products, such as sweetened condensed milk,
should not be promoted for babies 10. All products
should be of a high quality and take into account the
climatic and storage conditions of the country where
they are used |
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11:28:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
WHO/UNICEF: The WHO/UNICEF International Code of
Marketing of Breast milk Substitutes. Geneva,
Switzerland; May 1981 |
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11:28:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
the point is that the US signed the WHO code in 1994 |
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11:28:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
so point 1. there should apply |
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11:28:48 |
MOD_Ariana |
Cool. I just wanted to be 100% sure |
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11:29:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
number 8 is a good one too |
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11:29:00 |
mnfiddledragon |
*nod* me too :) |
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11:29:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
basically it's like having the SG warning on there but
they don't comply |
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11:29:23 |
mnfiddledragon |
though - the US signed it in 1994 - is there any chance
that Sr. Bush Jr. revoked it? |
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11:29:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
no |
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11:29:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
it is still intact |
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11:29:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
tho he wants to appoint |
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11:29:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
looking for the link |
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11:30:28 |
flutterby77 |
Does that include Canada? |
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11:30:29 |
willowsmom |
Ok...devil's advocate here...How would these rules be
enforced with the current administration? |
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11:30:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh they should of course |
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11:30:49 |
Jynxgirl |
Canada signed the same year as the States |
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11:30:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
but then again the US govt buys 600 million dollars
worth of formula a year for the WIC program |
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11:31:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
here we go |
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11:31:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2005/04/26/sections/news/focus_government/article_495280.php
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11:31:34 |
Jynxgirl |
I'm sure Canada buys around the same. Women get sent
home from hospitals with cases of it if they ask for it. |
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11:31:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
that article talks about how Bush is trying to appoint |
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11:31:57 |
willowsmom |
that makes me ill... |
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11:31:59 |
flutterby77 |
Yes and we get free cases from Nestle in th email |
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11:32:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
John Bolton |
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11:32:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is also a violation of the WHO code |
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11:32:11 |
willowsmom |
as UN ambassador. |
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11:32:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
correct |
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11:32:19 |
flutterby77 |
WOW. I had no idea |
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11:32:22 |
willowsmom |
Yep...I mention that in my LJ. lol |
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11:32:24 |
Jynxgirl |
When I went to bring Alena home, the nurses at the NICU
tried to make me bring home a case of formula in premade
bottles. They knew I was nursing. |
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11:32:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
He wanted me to convince those delegates to weaken the
U.N. code restricting marketing and promotion of infant
formula in developing countries."" |
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11:32:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
weaken the code |
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11:32:58 |
willowsmom |
yeah...he's a pinhead. |
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11:33:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
so you see these are the types of people that we are up
againts |
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11:33:10 |
mnfiddledragon |
I'll have to read it later :/ |
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11:33:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
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11:33:28 |
mnfiddledragon |
speaking of - I need to head out. Thank you again |
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11:33:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
so on to the next topic |
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11:33:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
we could go on and on about this |
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11:33:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:33:45 |
willowsmom |
How will we be able to get these rules enforced? Did I
miss the answer...nak lol |
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11:33:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
the next subject |
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11:33:52 |
willowsmom |
k :) |
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11:34:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
we'll answer more questions at the end |
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11:34:08 |
willowsmom |
k |
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11:34:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
I just want to get through all the topics |
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11:34:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
Content for the site |
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11:34:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
v |
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11:34:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
What we would like to do is open up the floor for you
all to comment on the reasons that you've heard not to
breastfeed |
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11:35:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
as well as |
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11:35:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
v |
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11:35:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
what we are going to do is v |
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11:35:32 |
willowsmom |
no milk because your vegetarian and don't drink dairy |
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11:35:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
perfect |
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11:35:47 |
Mod_Beckie |
Sorry, girls, I have to boogie, I have to moderate the
mothering chat in 20 minutes, and my daughter needs me |
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11:36:00 |
willowsmom |
Old Milk LEFTOVER in the breasts from previous
pregnancies. |
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11:36:06 |
willowsmom |
that one slays me |
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11:36:11 |
flutterby77 |
LMAO I've never heard that |
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11:36:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
then in the news letter we will write down that question |
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11:36:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
and someone will email us with documentation on why that
is false |
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11:36:42 |
willowsmom |
can't breastfeed because currently pregnant. |
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11:36:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
anything else |
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11:36:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
good |
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11:36:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
come on now everyone |
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11:36:50 |
flutterby77 |
Boobs too big |
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11:36:51 |
flutterby77 |
too small |
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11:36:53 |
willowsmom |
Inverted nipples |
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11:36:54 |
xxveigaxx |
some women just can't breastfeed"" |
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11:36:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know you've all heard great ones |
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11:36:56 |
Jynxgirl |
medication |
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11:36:59 |
Jynxgirl |
mom couldn't breastfeed |
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11:36:59 |
MOD_Ariana |
PPD |
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11:37:00 |
flutterby77 |
Milk wasn't fatty enough |
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11:37:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
keep it coming |
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11:37:01 |
givinguponyou |
'formula is just as good' |
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11:37:04 |
xxveigaxx |
Milk never comes in |
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11:37:05 |
willowsmom |
Had breast augmentation |
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11:37:06 |
flutterby77 |
Having twins! |
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11:37:07 |
givinguponyou |
'hurt too much' |
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11:37:08 |
flutterby77 |
loL |
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11:37:10 |
Jynxgirl |
Going back to school/work etc |
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11:37:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
breastfed babies don't gain as much weight |
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11:37:13 |
givinguponyou |
'had no support' |
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11:37:14 |
Jynxgirl |
baby is a preemie |
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11:37:15 |
Jynxgirl |
diabetes |
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11:37:16 |
flutterby77 |
lol |
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11:37:16 |
MOD_Ariana |
Don't want droopy breasts |
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11:37:17 |
willowsmom |
Breastfeeding is gross |
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11:37:18 |
flutterby77 |
lOok at us go |
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11:37:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
because a chucky baby is a healthy baby |
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11:37:21 |
Jynxgirl |
lol |
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11:37:23 |
xxveigaxx |
bloody nipples |
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11:37:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:37:28 |
willowsmom |
that soudns like a drink |
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11:37:33 |
MOD_Ariana |
Preemie |
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11:37:34 |
flutterby77 |
SOmeone said it's perverted |
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11:37:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
hah gross |
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11:37:39 |
flutterby77 |
EW |
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11:37:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
I can't nurse in public |
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11:37:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
daddy needs to bond with the baby |
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11:37:55 |
willowsmom |
You'll never be able to leave the house |
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11:37:56 |
Jynxgirl |
The one that gets me riled up the most: I don't want to
feel like a pedophile |
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11:37:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
I want to have a drink |
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11:37:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
ala |
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11:38:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
Denise Richards |
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11:38:06 |
willowsmom |
ugh Jynx..I can't stand that one |
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11:38:17 |
Jynxgirl |
Me either for very specific reasons |
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11:38:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
I have never heard the pedofile one |
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11:38:22 |
flutterby77 |
Exactly Jynx I hate that one |
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11:38:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's sad |
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11:38:24 |
willowsmom |
Yes it is |
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11:38:33 |
flutterby77 |
My ex used it alot, said past 2-3 months was sick |
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11:38:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
awesome ladies |
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11:38:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's horrible |
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11:38:45 |
Jynxgirl |
I have. Someone said it to me the other day. They
actually called me a pedophile. I nearly burst into
tears after getting really angry. |
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11:38:53 |
willowsmom |
can't breastfeed because I don't want to spoil my baby |
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11:38:59 |
willowsmom |
That's TERRIBLE! |
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11:39:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
good one |
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11:39:02 |
Jynxgirl |
I was the victim of a pedophile, so there's NO way I
tolerate that one. |
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11:39:03 |
flutterby77 |
OMG Jynx that is awful |
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11:39:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is terrible |
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11:39:06 |
Jynxgirl |
It was. |
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11:39:10 |
Jynxgirl |
So that's a big one for me. |
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11:39:11 |
flutterby77 |
:( |
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11:39:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok, if you think of any more |
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11:39:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
please email us |
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11:39:19 |
willowsmom |
k |
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11:39:22 |
Jynxgirl |
Another one is: Formula is easier |
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11:39:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
infor@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:39:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
good one |
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11:39:32 |
flutterby77 |
HA HA HA jynx they have no idea |
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11:39:36 |
willowsmom |
lol |
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11:39:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
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11:40:00 |
Jynxgirl |
No kidding. I was watching a woman at the mall up here
mixing a bottle... I was done nursing before her kid was
even starting to eat! |
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11:40:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
in the next chat, we will have the questions and
hopefully lots of answers to these common myths |
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11:40:13 |
Jynxgirl |
Cool |
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11:40:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
next up |
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11:40:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
real advocacy |
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11:40:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
along with us posting flyers and whatnot about the
www.breastfeedingisnormal.org site, |
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11:41:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
what sort of content needs to be on the site? |
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11:41:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's not a help center |
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11:41:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's about dispelling the myths about breastfeeding |
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11:41:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
and outing the formula industry for it's bad practices |
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11:41:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
because we all know that our govt is not doing enough |
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11:41:33 |
Jynxgirl |
Information about local laws would be helpful so that
people can't use the It's not allowed" excuse." |
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11:41:35 |
willowsmom |
you can say that again |
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11:41:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
I will be putting up links to the |
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11:41:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
letters that the formula companies |
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11:41:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
wrote to Tommy Thompson |
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11:42:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
who is the head of the Health and Human Serivces dept |
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11:42:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
about the wording in the breastfeeding ads that are out
right now |
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11:42:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
It will appaul our |
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11:42:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
I agree, and getting your local paper involved or news
is a good thing |
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11:43:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
basically what we are dealing with |
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11:43:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
with formula companies |
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11:43:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
are things like this |
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11:43:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.nestle.com/Our_Responsibility/Infant_Formula/Charter/The+Charter.htm
|
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11:44:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
on the nestle site itself |
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11:44:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
Breastfeeding is best for babies. Chemist Henri Nestlé
stated this in his Treatise on Nutrition soon after
founding our company in 1867, and it is still true
today. "" |
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11:44:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
We are committed to ensuring that the best interests of
mothers and babies are served by our employees around
the world. The Nestlé Infant Formula in developing
countries:"" |
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11:44:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
so it's ok for them not to market formula to DEVELOPING
countries |
|
11:44:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
but here in the US its' ok? |
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11:45:07 |
willowsmom |
Ok...one of the main things behind the formula companies
is money. How do we fund our cause? Clearly we live in a
society (at least here in the US) where...He with the
most money, wins."" |
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11:45:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
of course |
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11:45:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
and that is where we step in...we get no money for
promoting breastfeeding |
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11:45:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
and that is something that we have to stress. |
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11:45:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
*note to self* |
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11:45:45 |
willowsmom |
I totally agree |
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11:45:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is another topic line that I have heard as well |
|
11:45:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
formula isn't in it for the money |
|
11:45:51 |
Jynxgirl |
Is there someway we could apply for a not for profit
grant? |
|
11:45:55 |
willowsmom |
bs |
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11:45:56 |
willowsmom |
lol |
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11:46:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
becoming a non profit org is something that we are
looking into |
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11:46:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
but that is a little ways down the road |
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11:46:27 |
Jynxgirl |
Cause that might help with the money aspect, as well, a
donation box" so to speak might be a good idea." |
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11:46:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
we need to conitue to do our work and show that we NEED
the grant in the future |
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11:46:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
well on the site there is a direct donation button for
the cost of the site itself |
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11:46:51 |
xxveigaxx |
I have to go - The boy's having a meltdown. |
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11:46:53 |
Jynxgirl |
Cool |
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11:46:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
it goes directly to the hosting company for hosting
costs |
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11:47:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok next |
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11:48:02 |
MOD_Ariana |
Ok, Some of the branches of advocacy we're thinking of
tapping on the site |
|
11:48:14 |
MOD_Ariana |
Consumer Advocacy -- Let your money talk |
|
11:48:27 |
MOD_Ariana |
Political/Legal Advocacy -- Get the laws on our side and
get the politicians who will get those laws passed
elected |
|
11:48:46 |
MOD_Ariana |
and get the current laws and codes enforced |
|
11:48:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
12 minutes left |
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11:49:06 |
MOD_Ariana |
Personal Advocacy -- Nurse your baby, let others see and
know Guerilla Advocacy -- Get the word out |
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11:50:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
the Guerilla Advocacy is my specilty |
|
11:50:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:50:06 |
Jynxgirl |
Me too! |
|
11:50:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
being a club promoter in los angeles for many years |
|
11:50:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know the power of a correctly placed flyer |
|
11:50:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
|
11:50:26 |
Jynxgirl |
well, really, it's Alena's specialty.... she demands it
everywehre. |
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11:50:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha |
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11:50:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
cute |
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11:51:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
so keep the abopve in mind |
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11:51:34 |
givinguponyou |
i could actually go to all the wic locations in my area
and spread the word |
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11:51:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
for the next chat |
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11:51:40 |
givinguponyou |
they would let me talk about it in the class |
|
11:51:40 |
willowsmom |
:) |
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11:51:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
lets open this up to topics for the next chat |
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11:51:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
ideas ladies |
|
11:52:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
we will have the page up to solicit donations for copies |
|
11:52:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
and the flyers links up as well |
|
11:52:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
links for downloading the PDF's to get printed |
|
11:52:48 |
willowsmom |
ways to get WHO rules enforced...I'll work on that this
week |
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11:53:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
well if our govt isn't going to do it, we need to right? |
|
11:53:09 |
willowsmom |
absolutely. |
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11:53:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok any topics for the next chat |
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11:53:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have 7 miuntes left here |
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11:53:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
any final thoughts, suggestions, questions? |
|
11:53:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
feel free |
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11:53:58 |
willowsmom |
:) |
|
11:54:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh and a launch date as well |
|
11:54:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
the sooner the better I'd say |
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11:54:34 |
MOD_Ariana |
I think we can work on a lot of the thoughts we came up
with here |
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11:54:34 |
willowsmom |
what is the website for breastfeeding is normal? |
|
11:54:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
but we need to get this content in |
|
11:54:39 |
MOD_Ariana |
like the formula ads |
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11:54:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:54:52 |
willowsmom |
sweet, thanks! :) |
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11:54:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can sign up for the mailing list on there as well |
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11:55:09 |
willowsmom |
will do :) |
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11:55:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
the transcripts will be up Sunday I believe |
|
11:55:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
which is very nice |
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11:55:24 |
flutterby77 |
awesome |
|
11:55:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright ladies well I think that's it |
|
11:55:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you for joining us today |
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11:55:33 |
willowsmom |
Thanks :) |
|
11:55:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
dont forget the next chat will be June 2 |
|
11:55:38 |
Jynxgirl |
Thanks for having this! |
|
11:55:45 |
willowsmom |
Happy Breastfeeding. :) |
|
11:55:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
spread the word! |
|
11:55:48 |
MOD_Ariana |
:D |
|
11:55:50 |
Jynxgirl |
It let me find someone in my town to talk to! |
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11:55:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
breastfeeding is normal |
|
11:56:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
stick around for the mothering.com chat |
|
11:56:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
with Dr. Larry Cohen! |
|
11:56:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
i think it's in the mothering.com room |
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11:56:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
MOthering_mag room |
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11:56:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
thakn you all once again |
