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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #3
6/1/05

22 mamas in attendance

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11:01:26 Host_Housepoet GOOD MORNING CLASS!
11:01:43 Host_Housepoet I hope everyone is well today
11:01:47 Host_Housepoet thanks for joining us again
11:02:02 Host_Housepoet first off lets start with a recap of the chat two weeks ago
11:02:14 Host_Housepoet you can find the ?
11:02:35 Host_Housepoet Ariana is going to give us all an update on adopt a mom
11:02:58 MODAriana Ok, for those of you who don't know, Adopt A Mom is a live journal community
11:03:16 MODAriana a group of mothers who have “been there done that” when it comes to breastfeeding.  These women are volunteering their time to help out new moms and moms to be on a one on one basis online through education and support.
11:03:38 MODAriana If you are interested in being a breastfeeding mentor or know someone who may be drop by this live journal post http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/712.html  (comments are screened so only other members of the community can see)
11:03:51 MODAriana If you are a pregnant mom who wants a mentor to help you out with breastfeeding go to this post http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16919.html  (again comments are screened so only the mentors can see what you write)
11:04:17 MODAriana If you have already had your baby and would like to be matched with a mentor for breastfeeding help go to this post http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16823.html  (comments screened so only the mentors can see what you write)
11:04:46 MODAriana Right now we're just working on getting all the kinks out and getting more mentors and mentees
11:05:23 MODAriana Oh, but one exciting thing is we now have 75 years of breastfeeding experience with our mentors!!!!
11:05:28 Host_Housepoet :)
11:05:32 Host_Housepoet isn't that wonderful guys!
11:05:34 galadriel2006 hello!
11:05:36 drgnfly7691 that's awesome!
11:05:41 charis wow.
11:05:46 charis good morning ladies
11:05:46 rainingkisses yay!
11:05:54 givinguponyou my adopt a mom helped me get through the really hard times
11:05:54 Host_Housepoet Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
11:05:55 galadriel2006 that's alot of breastfeeding experience
11:06:00 Host_Housepoet it really is
11:06:14 Host_Housepoet I know that some mentors have been having trouble with their mentees not writting back
11:06:35 Host_Housepoet but that shouldn't stop us from trying to help
11:06:53 Host_Housepoet I to have had some personal difficulties with friends these past few weeks, but I continue on
11:06:53 MODAriana We're not going to be able to help everyone.
11:06:57 Host_Housepoet exactly
11:07:02 Host_Housepoet and that's hard to remember at times
11:07:09 MODAriana Some people don't want help, some don't want to keep trying when it gets hard
11:07:12 Host_Housepoet but Ariana keeps me focused. :)
11:07:17 MODAriana We can't Make" them do it"
11:07:19 Host_Housepoet *whip*
11:07:27 MODAriana But we can educate and support them
11:07:31 Host_Housepoet yup
11:07:36 MODAriana The desire has to come from them
11:08:08 charis it's frustrating however.  i've been sort of 'mentoring' a woman unofficially outside of livejournal and i've offered her as much help as i can over the internet, but she's still given up :(
11:08:20 Host_Housepoet and it hurts doesn't it?
11:08:25 MODAriana Oh, I sooo understand that
11:08:26 charis yes.
11:08:37 MODAriana But we can't change others
11:08:39 charis especially when she's so capable.  she just doesn't believe in herself and has no support system.
11:08:39 Host_Housepoet yah me too
11:08:55 iworshipsatin If it makes you feel better ya'll helped me alot and I am still going strong!
11:08:56 Host_Housepoet yah I've been dealing with RL friends supplementing
11:09:01 Host_Housepoet you know
11:09:02 MODAriana :)
11:09:05 Host_Housepoet you are one of the reasons I carry on
11:09:07 Host_Housepoet honestly
11:09:20 Host_Housepoet ariana pointed that out to me in the midst of me wanting to scrap this whole idea
11:09:22 MOD_Angie it is hard not to come down on yourself and ask what did I not say or what I say that made her quit, but 99% of the time we did nothing to have them quit
11:09:26 Host_Housepoet and you were a shinning lite
11:09:36 MODAriana I think we can't change the world all at once
11:09:46 MODAriana But if every year one of us helps one mom stick it out
11:09:50 MODAriana Then slowly the tide turns
11:09:53 charis well, one baby at a time really helps.
11:09:54 iworshipsatin :)
11:09:57 Host_Housepoet yep
11:09:58 Host_Housepoet :)
11:09:59 Host_Housepoet alright
11:10:03 Host_Housepoet enough mushy crap
11:10:04 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:10:09 MOD_Angie lol
11:10:11 sugarcoated_poison_apple heehee
11:10:12 Host_Housepoet lets move on to some advocacy!
11:10:14 drgnfly7691 lol
11:10:19 Host_Housepoet o
11:10:19 iworshipsatin lol
11:10:25 MODAriana Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU! :)"
11:10:32 Host_Housepoet We really need a call to arms here
11:10:47 Host_Housepoet We need someone with legal background to interprate (sp) sorry, the WHO code
11:11:01 Host_Housepoet and see if Target violate the law when advertising formula for sale
11:11:15 Host_Housepoet just last night Ariana saw an ad in her Vons circular
11:11:25 Host_Housepoet :banghead
11:11:33 Jynxgirl There was one in my local IGA flyer as well
11:11:46 Host_Housepoet yes, and we need someone to figure out if that is a violation
11:11:49 Host_Housepoet then we must act up
11:11:50 givinguponyou i have a legal background and am willing to do that
11:11:55 Host_Housepoet alright
11:11:59 drgnfly7691 I can help, too.
11:11:59 Host_Housepoet shoot me an email please!
11:12:02 Jynxgirl I have legal background for Canada, os I can do it here too
11:12:04 givinguponyou i will
11:12:08 Host_Housepoet info@breastfeedingisnormal.org
11:12:27 givinguponyou you got it
11:12:41 Host_Housepoet alright
11:12:53 Host_Housepoet so if this is a violation
11:13:05 Host_Housepoet we are going to be able to let moms know to boycot target
11:13:22 Host_Housepoet I know I love target too, but if they are in violation then we need to do something about it
11:13:23 Host_Housepoet I think that
11:13:46 whitetigress00 I'm jumping in on the middle of the conversations here, but it's only violating the WHO code to advertise in developing countries.
11:13:57 drgnfly7691 that's what I thought, too.
11:14:15 Host_Housepoet the WHO code specificlly says developing countries?
11:14:22 Host_Housepoet then why did the US sign the WHO code in 1994?
11:15:05 Host_Housepoet WHO/UNICEF International Code of Marketing of Breast milk Substitutes  The International Code of Marketing of Breast milk Substitutes is a voluntary co
11:15:07 whitetigress00 Because boob nazis are scary. It was a good PR move.
11:15:12 Host_Housepoet 1. No advertising of breast milk substitutes to mothers
11:15:13 Host_Housepoet hahaa
11:15:17 Host_Housepoet 2. No free samples of breast milk substitutes to mothers
11:15:23 Host_Housepoet 3. No promotion of products through health facilities
11:15:27 Host_Housepoet 4. No company sales representatives to advise mothers
11:15:32 Host_Housepoet 5. No gifts or personal samples to health care workers
11:15:36 Host_Housepoet 6. No words or pictures idealizing artificial feeding, including pictures of infants on the labels of the products
11:15:42 Host_Housepoet 7. Information to health workers should be scientific and factual
11:15:43 whitetigress00 There are exceptions to those.
11:15:48 Host_Housepoet 8. All information on artificial feeding, including the labels, should explain the benefits of breastfeeding and the costs and hazards associated with artificial feeding
11:15:54 Host_Housepoet 9. Unsuitable products, such as sweetened condensed milk, should not be promoted for babies
11:15:58 Host_Housepoet 10. All products should be of a high quality and take into account the climatic and storage conditions of the country where they are used
11:16:02 Host_Housepoet ok there we go