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11:00:24 |
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11:01:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
GOOD MORNING CLASS! |
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11:01:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
I hope everyone is well today |
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11:01:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
thanks for joining us again |
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11:02:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
first off lets start with a recap of the chat two weeks
ago |
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11:02:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can find the ? |
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11:02:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana is going to give us all an update on adopt a mom |
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11:02:58 |
MODAriana |
Ok, for those of you who don't know, Adopt A Mom is a
live journal community |
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11:03:16 |
MODAriana |
a group of mothers who have “been there done that” when
it comes to breastfeeding. These women are volunteering
their time to help out new moms and moms to be on a one
on one basis online through education and support. |
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11:03:38 |
MODAriana |
If you are interested in being a breastfeeding mentor or
know someone who may be drop by this live journal post
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/712.html
(comments are screened so only other members of the
community can see) |
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11:03:51 |
MODAriana |
If you are a pregnant mom who wants a mentor to help you
out with breastfeeding go to this post
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16919.html
(again comments are screened so only the mentors can see
what you write) |
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11:04:17 |
MODAriana |
If you have already had your baby and would like to be
matched with a mentor for breastfeeding help go to this
post
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16823.html
(comments screened so only the mentors can see what you
write) |
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11:04:46 |
MODAriana |
Right now we're just working on getting all the kinks
out and getting more mentors and mentees |
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11:05:23 |
MODAriana |
Oh, but one exciting thing is we now have 75 years of
breastfeeding experience with our mentors!!!! |
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11:05:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:05:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
isn't that wonderful guys! |
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11:05:34 |
galadriel2006 |
hello! |
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11:05:36 |
drgnfly7691 |
that's awesome! |
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11:05:41 |
charis |
wow. |
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11:05:46 |
charis |
good morning ladies |
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11:05:46 |
rainingkisses |
yay! |
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11:05:54 |
givinguponyou |
my adopt a mom helped me get through the really hard
times |
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11:05:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have
your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU!
:)" |
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11:05:55 |
galadriel2006 |
that's alot of breastfeeding experience |
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11:06:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
it really is |
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11:06:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know that some mentors have been having trouble with
their mentees not writting back |
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11:06:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
but that shouldn't stop us from trying to help |
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11:06:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
I to have had some personal difficulties with friends
these past few weeks, but I continue on |
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11:06:53 |
MODAriana |
We're not going to be able to help everyone. |
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11:06:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
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11:07:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
and that's hard to remember at times |
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11:07:09 |
MODAriana |
Some people don't want help, some don't want to keep
trying when it gets hard |
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11:07:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
but Ariana keeps me focused. :) |
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11:07:17 |
MODAriana |
We can't Make" them do it" |
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11:07:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
*whip* |
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11:07:27 |
MODAriana |
But we can educate and support them |
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11:07:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
yup |
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11:07:36 |
MODAriana |
The desire has to come from them |
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11:08:08 |
charis |
it's frustrating however. i've been sort of 'mentoring'
a woman unofficially outside of livejournal and i've
offered her as much help as i can over the internet, but
she's still given up :( |
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11:08:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
and it hurts doesn't it? |
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11:08:25 |
MODAriana |
Oh, I sooo understand that |
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11:08:26 |
charis |
yes. |
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11:08:37 |
MODAriana |
But we can't change others |
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11:08:39 |
charis |
especially when she's so capable. she just doesn't
believe in herself and has no support system. |
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11:08:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
yah me too |
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11:08:55 |
iworshipsatin |
If it makes you feel better ya'll helped me alot and I
am still going strong! |
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11:08:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
yah I've been dealing with RL friends supplementing |
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11:09:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
you know |
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11:09:02 |
MODAriana |
:) |
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11:09:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
you are one of the reasons I carry on |
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11:09:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
honestly |
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11:09:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
ariana pointed that out to me in the midst of me wanting
to scrap this whole idea |
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11:09:22 |
MOD_Angie |
it is hard not to come down on yourself and ask what did
I not say or what I say that made her quit, but 99% of
the time we did nothing to have them quit |
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11:09:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
and you were a shinning lite |
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11:09:36 |
MODAriana |
I think we can't change the world all at once |
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11:09:46 |
MODAriana |
But if every year one of us helps one mom stick it out |
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11:09:50 |
MODAriana |
Then slowly the tide turns |
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11:09:53 |
charis |
well, one baby at a time really helps. |
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11:09:54 |
iworshipsatin |
:) |
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11:09:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
yep |
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11:09:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:09:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
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11:10:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
enough mushy crap |
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11:10:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:10:09 |
MOD_Angie |
lol |
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11:10:11 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
heehee |
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11:10:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
lets move on to some advocacy! |
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11:10:14 |
drgnfly7691 |
lol |
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11:10:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
o |
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11:10:19 |
iworshipsatin |
lol |
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11:10:25 |
MODAriana |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have
your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU!
:)" |
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11:10:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
We really need a call to arms here |
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11:10:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
We need someone with legal background to interprate (sp)
sorry, the WHO code |
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11:11:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
and see if Target violate the law when advertising
formula for sale |
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11:11:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
just last night Ariana saw an ad in her Vons circular |
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11:11:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
:banghead |
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11:11:33 |
Jynxgirl |
There was one in my local IGA flyer as well |
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11:11:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes, and we need someone to figure out if that is a
violation |
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11:11:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
then we must act up |
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11:11:50 |
givinguponyou |
i have a legal background and am willing to do that |
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11:11:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
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11:11:59 |
drgnfly7691 |
I can help, too. |
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11:11:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
shoot me an email please! |
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11:12:02 |
Jynxgirl |
I have legal background for Canada, os I can do it here
too |
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11:12:04 |
givinguponyou |
i will |
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11:12:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:12:27 |
givinguponyou |
you got it |
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11:12:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
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11:12:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
so if this is a violation |
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11:13:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
we are going to be able to let moms know to boycot
target |
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11:13:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know I love target too, but if they are in violation
then we need to do something about it |
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11:13:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think that |
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11:13:46 |
whitetigress00 |
I'm jumping in on the middle of the conversations here,
but it's only violating the WHO code to advertise in
developing countries. |
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11:13:57 |
drgnfly7691 |
that's what I thought, too. |
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11:14:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
the WHO code specificlly says developing countries? |
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11:14:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
then why did the US sign the WHO code in 1994? |
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11:15:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
WHO/UNICEF International Code of Marketing of Breast
milk Substitutes The International Code of Marketing of
Breast milk Substitutes is a voluntary co |
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11:15:07 |
whitetigress00 |
Because boob nazis are scary. It was a good PR move. |
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11:15:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
1. No advertising of breast milk substitutes to mothers |
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11:15:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
hahaa |
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11:15:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
2. No free samples of breast milk substitutes to mothers |
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11:15:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
3. No promotion of products through health facilities |
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11:15:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
4. No company sales representatives to advise mothers |
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11:15:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
5. No gifts or personal samples to health care workers |
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11:15:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
6. No words or pictures idealizing artificial feeding,
including pictures of infants on the labels of the
products |
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11:15:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
7. Information to health workers should be scientific
and factual |
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11:15:43 |
whitetigress00 |
There are exceptions to those. |
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11:15:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
8. All information on artificial feeding, including the
labels, should explain the benefits of breastfeeding and
the costs and hazards associated with artificial feeding |
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11:15:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
9. Unsuitable products, such as sweetened condensed
milk, should not be promoted for babies |
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11:15:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
10. All products should be of a high quality and take
into account the climatic and storage conditions of the
country where they are used |
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11:16:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok there we go |
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11:16:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
so then what can we do to change this? |
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11:16:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
isn't it unfair to our country to be hit with all this
crappy marketing? |
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11:16:52 |
Jynxgirl |
*raises hand* |
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11:16:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
go for it |
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11:17:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
?? |
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11:17:41 |
Jynxgirl |
We could each get in contact with our local member of
parliament (or congress.. not sure how it works in the
US.) Tell them our concerns, be prepared with facts, the
code, the best information possible. |
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11:17:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly, |
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11:18:00 |
Jynxgirl |
Ask them to step up and do something about it. |
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11:18:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
we are trying to build this site so it makes it easy for
we women to do this |
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11:18:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
all the info gathered in one place for easy access |
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11:18:17 |
Jynxgirl |
There has to be at least ONE who is willing to take it
to higher authorities. |
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11:18:24 |
charis |
? |
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11:18:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
does anyone know if any of the other sites, like promom
or LLL have this type of info redily avaliable? |
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11:18:44 |
Jynxgirl |
kellymom |
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11:18:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
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11:18:55 |
givinguponyou |
we need to get bfing info out to women just as they get
enfamil mail and coupons |
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11:19:04 |
charis |
that's what i was going to say |
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11:19:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
right! |
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11:19:05 |
Jynxgirl |
how though? |
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11:19:15 |
givinguponyou |
well my dad is a united heaslth care exec |
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11:19:16 |
charis |
it's not enough to just knock down the marketing of
formula, it has to be replaced |
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11:19:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder how the formula companies get people's mailing
addresses |
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11:19:20 |
charis |
otherwise it would be a vacuum |
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11:19:23 |
Jynxgirl |
we don't get mailing lists from doctors like formula
companies do |
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11:19:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
I agree |
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11:19:26 |
givinguponyou |
he is trying to implement a program where they send out
bfing info |
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11:19:39 |
givinguponyou |
said he would make sure a link to
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/
is in the info |
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11:19:42 |
charis |
public service ads, etc would be good routes. |
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11:19:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh that's right I remember reading about that |
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11:19:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
perfect |
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11:19:58 |
givinguponyou |
and they are going to be offering like deals for breast
pumps or things like that |
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11:20:00 |
charis |
better promotion in hospitals. |
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11:20:00 |
Jynxgirl |
k. I have to run, but I promise I'll read the
transcript!! |
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11:20:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright, well lets inlist your dad in this effort as
well |
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11:20:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
bye bye |
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11:20:11 |
givinguponyou |
and he ordered a shirt that he is wearing on caual
friday |
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11:20:19 |
charis |
yah, do a 'breastfeeding success bag' for real
breastfeeders! |
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11:20:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's great |
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11:20:28 |
givinguponyou |
and my step mom is doing the same |
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11:20:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
ecactly, that is more important than a formula bad |
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11:20:33 |
charis |
coupons, lanolin samples, breast pads... |
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11:20:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
bag |
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11:20:38 |
givinguponyou |
ive already got my shirt and my baby has her onesie |
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11:20:43 |
givinguponyou |
we were them whenever we go out |
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11:20:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok ok all wonderful ideas, lets continue |
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11:20:57 |
givinguponyou |
and i talk to anyone that so much as glances at me |
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11:21:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
in our last chat |
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11:21:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
we spoke about breastfeeding myths |
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11:21:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
and formula myths |
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11:21:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'll admit that I dropped the ball and didn't send these
out to the email list |
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11:21:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
because between the last chat and this one I got engaged
and I'm in wedding mode :) |
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11:21:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
but you can join the email list at
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:22:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
and what will happen is this list of myths will be sent
out to you all |
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11:22:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
and it's your homework to find links and documentation
to dispute the myths |
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11:22:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
all of that is going on the site in a type of Q&A
section |
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11:22:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
for easy access |
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11:22:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
to the users |
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11:22:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok next |
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11:22:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
content for the site |
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11:22:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
first on the list is § |
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11:23:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
we really need everyone's help on this one |
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11:23:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
when ever you read something on line or see something in
your paper about formula send it to us |
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11:23:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:23:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
any info is good infor for us, it's content for the stie |
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11:23:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
site* |
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11:24:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
also |
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11:24:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
§ |
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11:24:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
how you can get involved in your area to promote
breastfeeding |
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11:24:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
from the flyers that are going to be avaliable for
download off the stie |
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11:24:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
site* |
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11:25:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
to the email list of activist, who are contacted when
something evil is taking place |
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11:25:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
ala, that Wyoming congress woman who said that if the
WHO was putting women back 100 years by adopting a new
stance on breastfeeding |
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11:25:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
once the site is up, when there is a call to advocate
everyone will be notified in a timely manor |
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11:26:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
o |
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11:26:09 |
charis |
and that whole fiasco wtih barbara walters |
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11:26:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh gawd that too |
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11:26:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
see things like that |
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11:26:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
are all things that are going on the site |
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11:26:38 |
iworshipsatin |
what happened? |
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11:26:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
we'll get to that at the end of the chat |
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11:26:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
§ |
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11:26:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
§ |
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11:26:52 |
iworshipsatin |
ok |
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11:27:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
so if anyone has a background in lobbying congress
people |
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11:27:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
please send us an email
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:27:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
§ |
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11:27:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
any grammar nazis are VERY welcome to help you |
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11:27:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
out* |
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11:28:09 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i'm a grammar nazi! |
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11:28:11 |
charis |
*raises hand* |
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11:28:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
as you can see I am not an Enligsh major |
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11:28:22 |
eviltoot |
i'm a grammar nazi! |
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11:28:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
we'd love to have you |
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11:28:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
§ |
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11:28:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
this means , § |
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11:29:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
and other small tasks like getting the congress persons
email from Texas |
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11:29:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright, so those are all the points. |
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11:29:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
lets open up the floor |
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11:30:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
any ideas to share? |
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11:30:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
Let's brainstorm |
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11:30:20 |
charis |
well, i think the best way is to try to reach pregnant
women |
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11:30:25 |
charis |
in a non-putting off fashion |
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11:30:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
agreed |
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11:30:37 |
charis |
stalking the formula aisle won't work, they'll just
think we're all nuts. |
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11:30:46 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
*lol* |
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11:30:51 |
MODAriana |
We thought of flyers near OB offices |
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11:31:01 |
charis |
why not *in* ob offices? |
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11:31:11 |
charis |
host breastfeeding reality classes through ob offices. |
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11:31:16 |
MODAriana |
Sure! |
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11:31:29 |
charis |
not just listing the benefits of breastfeeding, but
really preparing these moms for doing it |
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11:31:41 |
charis |
crisis pregnancy centers would be a good outreach too |
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11:31:45 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
how much work is involved in becoming a lactation
consultant? i'd really love to do that |
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11:31:49 |
MODAriana |
Breastfeeding is Normal is primariy an advocacy site |
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11:31:50 |
charis |
alot. |
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11:31:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder about the legality of posting flyers near OB
offices |
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11:31:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's a lot of work |
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11:32:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
but doable |
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11:32:01 |
MODAriana |
but there needs to be a support component to it too |
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11:32:06 |
charis |
i agree |
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11:32:11 |
MODAriana |
Like Adopt A Mom |
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11:32:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
we need someone to look up the legality of posting
flyers and such in each state |
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11:32:32 |
MODAriana |
Why would it be illegal? |
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11:32:33 |
givinguponyou |
i can do that |
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11:32:38 |
charis |
well, like i said, making ourselves available to crisis
pregnancy centers... |
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11:32:49 |
charis |
my high school had a special program for teen
moms/pregnant teens |
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11:32:56 |
MODAriana |
YES |
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11:32:59 |
charis |
those types of places would be good outreach
opportunities too. |
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11:33:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
absolutely |
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11:33:10 |
MODAriana |
I'd love to be able to talk to health classes and esp.
to pregnant teens |
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11:33:13 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i'm sure that some bf-friendly doctors would probably ok
fliers in their offices if asked |
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11:33:17 |
charis |
if we really focus on the younger crowd, that's going to
make a difference in the long run |
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11:33:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
'breastfeeding is like a nice pair of Prada shoes' |
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11:33:23 |
givinguponyou |
i agree |
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11:33:27 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, i agree with charis |
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11:33:28 |
givinguponyou |
haha |
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11:34:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
make breatfeeding seem fashionable |
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11:34:14 |
charis |
yah |
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11:34:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think that is one way to reach a younger crowd |
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11:34:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
make it the in thing to do you know |
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11:34:20 |
MODAriana |
I hope some of you have already emailed
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org to volunteer! |
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11:34:23 |
charis |
they gotta know it's not teh easiest thing in the world. |
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11:34:30 |
charis |
but much easier in the long run. |
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11:34:31 |
MODAriana |
There's also personal advocacy. |
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11:34:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
right |
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11:34:35 |
MODAriana |
Nurse your baby |
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11:34:36 |
MODAriana |
NIP |
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11:34:36 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
your slinged baby is the perfect accesory to any outfit! |
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11:34:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha that's great |
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11:34:45 |
MODAriana |
Teach your children the best way to feed a baby |
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11:34:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
and with slings being more than just that ugly rainbow
color |
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11:35:03 |
charis |
hehe |
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11:35:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
they are totally in style ;) |
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11:35:13 |
MODAriana |
I have a light denim sling matches most outfits great! |
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11:35:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
perhaps point out celeb moms who nurse |
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11:35:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
sling use |
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11:35:35 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i made 2 slings for myself and i'm going to make a
couple for a pregnant friend |
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11:35:43 |
charis |
is julia roberts nursing? |
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11:35:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
yep |
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11:35:52 |
charis |
i never did the sling thing. |
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11:35:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
well that's what I read |
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11:35:57 |
charis |
i have a snugli. |
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11:36:00 |
MODAriana |
Debra Messing is still nursing at almost 1 year |
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11:36:03 |
charis |
my son is too wiggly for a sling. |
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11:36:58 |
drgnfly7691 |
I NIP *everywhere*, and Gracie is 18 months old now. I
really think that NIP is one of the best advocacy things
anyone can do. |
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11:37:07 |
drgnfly7691 |
Breastfeeding won't be normal until we *make* it normal. |
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11:37:12 |
MODAriana |
drgnfly7691 I totally agree |
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11:37:35 |
MODAriana |
And NIP with confidence |
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11:37:35 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, the more they see it the less weird" it will seem" |
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11:37:49 |
MODAriana |
If you look nervous then it seems like you're doing
something wrong |
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11:37:54 |
charis |
thing is, most of us nip so discreetly it isn't noticed |
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11:37:54 |
drgnfly7691 |
Right... no blankets, no hiding in corners. If someone
sees your boob, so what? |
|
11:38:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
I just thought of something |
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11:38:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
you know those little cards that they write babies names
on |
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11:38:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
to put in the bassanets in the hos? |
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11:38:27 |
charis |
yah |
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11:38:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
like baby boy Trujillo |
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11:38:33 |
charis |
the ones with the formula names on them? |
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11:38:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
the weight things like that |
|
11:38:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
right |
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11:38:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder if we could launch a campaign |
|
11:38:53 |
charis |
to get them removed? |
|
11:38:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
to have breastfeeding info on the back instead |
|
11:39:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
See I have mine right here with my sons info |
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11:39:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
and on the back it's all about infamil |
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11:39:14 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
*rolls eyes* brought to you by similac, baby amorette NO
FORMULA PLEASE, WE'RE BREASTFEEDING |
|
11:39:17 |
givinguponyou |
my wic office passes out ones that say 'im a bf baby! no
bottles or pacis for me please!' |
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11:39:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
why dont' all WIC offices do that? |
|
11:39:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder |
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11:39:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
could you get some info on that please |
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11:39:42 |
drgnfly7691 |
I actually have a design in the works for Mama's Milk
Tees that says something similar (I'm breastfed, etc.) |
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11:39:44 |
charis |
we need to get into wic too |
|
11:39:50 |
MODAriana |
kelly mom has something for that too |
|
11:39:53 |
MODAriana |
let me find it |
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11:39:54 |
givinguponyou |
im not sure my wic in this area is HUGE on pressing
bfing but ill email you about that later |
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11:39:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
my WIC office has a boob nazi |
|
11:40:00 |
givinguponyou |
i work for wic |
|
11:40:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
but they still dont do enough to promote bfing |
|
11:40:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
I guess they don't want to 'offend' anyone |
|
11:40:33 |
charis |
for all my tax money that goes into formula each year...
they'd better:P |
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11:40:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
you work FOR WIC? |
|
11:40:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
600 MILLION DOLLARS worth! |
|
11:40:52 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
when my first daughter was 5 momths i told wic that she
didn't seem like she was satisfied with the milk i
pumped while i was at work and the lady asked me if i
wanted formula for her |
|
11:41:03 |
givinguponyou |
yeah im a cons. now and they are training me to be a lac
con and then getting me trained for home visits |
|
11:41:18 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i was like, fork no, no fake crap for my baby |
|
11:41:21 |
charis |
oh. that answers my question |
|
11:41:35 |
givinguponyou |
right now i teach classes , take calls to offer support,
meet with moms that need help in the office etc |
|
11:41:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
WIC should never offer formula to babies |
|
11:41:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
ever. |
|
11:41:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
they should be teaching women to properly breastfeed |
|
11:41:52 |
charis |
certainly not 'do you want formula?' |
|
11:41:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's awesome |
|
11:41:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
|
11:42:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's tax payers money right out the window |
|
11:42:08 |
charis |
i agree |
|
11:42:15 |
givinguponyou |
my office has cut back the formula budget and is putting
more and more into bfing |
|
11:42:23 |
charis |
not to mentioin we all eat the bill when that ff baby
gets the runs |
|
11:42:25 |
drgnfly7691 |
that's great! |
|
11:42:25 |
givinguponyou |
pumps, classes, home visits etc |
|
11:42:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's cheaper in the long run |
|
11:42:32 |
charis |
and has to spend so much time in the hospital |
|
11:42:45 |
givinguponyou |
ive already got permission to wear the bfing is normal
shirt and give out flyers |
|
11:42:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
so I've bene wondering about making
www.breastfeedingisnormal.org a non profit org |
|
11:42:49 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
it was more like do you want formula? beause if you want
formula you'll lose the food you get because you're
bf'ing"" |
|
11:42:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
has anyone ever created a non profit before? |
|
11:42:59 |
givinguponyou |
i can help you with that |
|
11:43:00 |
givinguponyou |
yes |
|
11:43:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
any ideas on how to start that |
|
11:43:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
|
11:43:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
email! |
|
11:43:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
|
11:43:12 |
givinguponyou |
we should hook up later after the chat so we dont waste
time in here! |
|
11:43:17 |
givinguponyou |
i already did! |
|
11:43:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
|
11:43:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
nice |
|
11:43:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
|
11:43:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
any other ideas ladies? |
|
11:43:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
questions? |
|
11:43:37 |
MODAriana |
http://www.kellymom.com/bookstore/handouts/hospital_card.pdf
|
|
11:43:48 |
MODAriana |
That's kellymom's card for the hospital |
|
11:43:49 |
charis |
what about reaching out to groups like m.o.p.s. |
|
11:43:53 |
MODAriana |
Instead of the formula one |
|
11:43:54 |
charis |
mom's groups and such |
|
11:44:03 |
givinguponyou |
if you want to start making more profit from the shirts
than from caepress i can help there, too |
|
11:44:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's a great card |
|
11:44:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
the cafe press stuff isn't even marked up to make a
profit |
|
11:44:36 |
givinguponyou |
plus we could design a card and i could get billions
pressed for cheap |
|
11:44:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's like 2% I think |
|
11:44:42 |
givinguponyou |
are you serious? |
|
11:44:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's what Im talking about |
|
11:44:54 |
givinguponyou |
i run a record label i get huge discounts on shirts |
|
11:44:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
getting flyers and cards donated |
|
11:44:55 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
you could make banners for the cafepress store and the
website to put on lj info pages and personal websites,
to generate more interest |
|
11:45:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder how many of those cards are used at a hospital
every year |
|
11:45:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes that's a great idea |
|
11:45:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
I need to make a banner for mommychats too! |
|
11:45:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes 2% |
|
11:45:55 |
givinguponyou |
man i thought you were making more than that when i made
my whole family order them haha |
|
11:45:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's bc I wanted the shirts to be out there |
|
11:46:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
I just want them out there, I'm not interested in the
profit |
|
11:46:14 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
do you have a link to the store? |
|
11:46:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://cafepress.com/bf_is_normal |
|
11:46:32 |
givinguponyou |
yeah i know it helps! |
|
11:46:32 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
thanx |
|
11:46:51 |
MODAriana |
But all the word of mouth doesn't help until we get the
site up! |
|
11:46:57 |
MODAriana |
That's why volunteers are needed |
|
11:47:01 |
givinguponyou |
i can help with that too if need be |
|
11:47:07 |
MODAriana |
To roll up their sleeves |
|
11:47:14 |
givinguponyou |
okay i sent an email so just email me back with
everything you need |
|
11:47:33 |
charis |
i don't have a whole lot of time, but i'll help out |
|
11:47:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
|
11:47:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
I do need someone to do a bit of coding for me |
|
11:48:13 |
givinguponyou |
i shuold be able to do a lot of it |
|
11:48:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
you know css? |
|
11:48:29 |
MODAriana |
givinguponyou you are a woman of many talents! |
|
11:48:34 |
givinguponyou |
yeah. i have a cold and mastitis right now so i cant
start for like 4 days |
|
11:48:40 |
givinguponyou |
but after that i am all yours |
|
11:48:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh no |
|
11:48:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's terrible |
|
11:48:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
hope you mend soon |
|
11:48:55 |
givinguponyou |
i'm okay! we're nursing through it! |
|
11:49:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's the best thing to do |
|
11:49:08 |
givinguponyou |
last time i pumped through it and it was WAY worse |
|
11:49:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
so that acutally brings up a good point |
|
11:49:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
that congress woman from Wyoming |
|
11:49:20 |
charis |
givinguponyou: get some wheatgrass |
|
11:49:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
stated that women with mastitis |
|
11:49:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
can't nurse |
|
11:49:33 |
givinguponyou |
sooo wrong |
|
11:49:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
and are excluded from nursing |
|
11:49:38 |
givinguponyou |
she is sooo wrong |
|
11:49:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
|
11:49:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
this woman is a chemist |
|
11:49:41 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
can i suggest maybe some more variety in designs for the
stuff at the store? i could try designing something, or
maybe talk to my sister who draws really well ... a
wider variety might get people more interested. |
|
11:49:43 |
charis |
wheatgrass juice is an *awesome* immune booster. i've
kicked two colds in three days with it |
|
11:49:48 |
givinguponyou |
the relief is unbelievable compared to pumping |
|
11:49:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
and is married to a doctor |
|
11:49:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
and also stated that women who get thrush can't nurse
either |
|
11:50:03 |
charis |
i'm an artist too.. i can do logo designs, t-shirt
designs |
|
11:50:04 |
givinguponyou |
ill get some thanks!! |
|
11:50:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
she sent this letter stating these things out to
everyone in congress |
|
11:50:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
asking them to vote no on the WHO's new bfing policy |
|
11:50:16 |
givinguponyou |
ah ive had thrush for 2 months |
|
11:50:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
most of the people in congress are MEN |
|
11:50:26 |
givinguponyou |
i barely notice it now and im nursing |
|
11:50:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
who most likely aren't up to date in bfing |
|
11:50:38 |
givinguponyou |
i have 2 family members in congress |
|
11:50:41 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, i've been meaning to write that congresswoman a
letter about how she needs to get off the crack and read
some real information about breastfeeding |
|
11:50:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
I see you idea about the more designs |
|
11:50:50 |
givinguponyou |
both men but they support bfing |
|
11:50:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
and frankly I don't want to do something like that |
|
11:50:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
for now |
|
11:51:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
we want to have one logo |
|
11:51:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
one image |
|
11:51:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
and make that a standard |
|
11:51:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's the point of this site |
|
11:51:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's hip and fresh and not hand drawn like a lot of
other sites |
|
11:51:31 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
ok, i gotcha about the logo there ... sounds good. i can
come up with some ideas and hold onto them if you ever
want |
|
11:51:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
our logo is not hand drawn |
|
11:51:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
please do! |
|
11:51:44 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
^_^ |
|
11:51:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
we just want this logo to be common place right now |
|
11:51:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
like mcdonalds |
|
11:51:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
the freaking golden arches |
|
11:52:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
|
11:52:03 |
charis |
if you need graphics or cartoons or whatnot, i can do
those |
|
11:52:03 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
only waaaaaaay healthier |
|
11:52:12 |
MODAriana |
The blue boob! |
|
11:52:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
hahaha |
|
11:52:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
|
11:52:22 |
charis |
to boost the site/illustrate/whatnot |
|
11:52:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
has everyone see the breastfeed your baby cartoon? |
|
11:52:31 |
charis |
no... |
|
11:52:33 |
drgnfly7691 |
no |
|
11:53:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
an the link is down :( |
|
11:53:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
sorry |
|
11:53:24 |
iworshipsatin |
g2g bye ladies |
|
11:53:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
it was a great little flash cartoon |
|
11:53:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
about nursing your baby, it was a rap |
|
11:53:47 |
drgnfly7691 |
what's the link? maybe it will be up later. |
|
11:53:55 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
bye, satin |
|
11:54:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.slecorp.com/breastfeeding_rap/bfyb-final.htm
|
|
11:54:14 |
habibek1ndheart |
bye satin |
|
11:54:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright ladies we only have about 6 minutes left |
|
11:54:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
any other suggestions? ideas? |
|
11:54:32 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
wow, time flies |
|
11:54:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
rants raves? |
|
11:54:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know it really does |
|
11:54:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
especially with all these great ideas! |
|
11:54:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
this has been a kick ass chat |
|
11:54:50 |
drgnfly7691 |
we were talking about posting signs near OB offices... |
|
11:54:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh |
|
11:54:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh |
|
11:54:51 |
habibek1ndheart |
I wasn't here long so I can't help. I don't know what
was said in the 40 mins I wasn't here ;) |
|
11:54:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh |
|
11:54:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
lastly! |
|
11:55:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
right we need to get info on laws about that |
|
11:55:10 |
givinguponyou |
i think the insurance company is a good route to get
pregnant mommas |
|
11:55:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
if we can post without getting in trouble |
|
11:55:15 |
givinguponyou |
they know as soon as they are pregnant |
|
11:55:20 |
givinguponyou |
and they hate formula |
|
11:55:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
and if you ask the OB if you can post IN the office too |
|
11:55:22 |
drgnfly7691 |
why not just make an appt to go in and talk to the OB?
See if we can get them on board? |
|
11:55:24 |
givinguponyou |
they know how much it is costing them! |
|
11:55:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
YES |
|
11:55:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
and |
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11:55:28 |
