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11:03:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
OFFICIAL START OF THE BREASTFEEDING IS NORMAL.ORG CHAT!
WELCOME! MY NAME IS NOEL AND I AM YOUR HOSTESS TODAY!
THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED AND POSTED ON THE SUNDAY
FOLLOWING THIS CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN
POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :) |
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11:03:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
PLEASE DIRECT ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS TO ARIANA |
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11:04:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
DOUBLE CLICK HER NAME ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND THAT
WILL POP OPEN A PRIVATE WINDOW |
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11:04:05 |
MOD_ariana |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Or
you can private message me. THANKYOU! :)" |
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11:04:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
*hey jen glad to see you here!* |
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11:04:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of the
www.Breastfeedingisnormal.org chat on advocacy. I’m
your hostess with the mostess, Noel Pickett, infamously
known as the evil housepoet on livejournal. My co host
partner in crime is the lovely Arianamama, who is sweet
and charming. If you have any questions, please double
click on her name and that will open a small private
window for you to chat with her in. |
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11:04:23 |
ncsujen |
hi |
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11:04:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
Again, my excuse for not being ready yet again is that
I’ve gone back to college and man, drawing101 is
chapping my hide! |
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11:04:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
Topics for today's chat |
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11:04:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
Agenda | Welcome | Recap of last chat | Mission
statement (O) | Site delay | More Myths (O) |
www.Promom.org | We
still need help! |
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11:05:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright let's dive right in shall we |
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11:05:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
Recap of last chat LAST FORMAL CHAT
http://mommychats.com/transcripts/bfactivism04.htm
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11:05:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
You can check out the transcripts of the last chat there |
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11:05:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
it was a great chat with a great turn out again |
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11:06:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
thanks to everyone who joined us |
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11:06:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:06:17 |
cassandrakfreaq |
did i miss out again? |
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11:06:21 |
cassandrakfreaq |
:( |
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11:06:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
no you're in the right place |
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11:06:36 |
cassandrakfreaq |
thank the lord haha |
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11:06:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
up next Ariana is going to give us an Adopt A Mom update |
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11:06:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana - the floor is yours |
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11:07:09 |
MOD_ariana |
Ok, Most of you know Adopt A Mom is a group of
experienced breastfeeders on Live Journal |
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11:07:24 |
MOD_ariana |
We adopt" new moms and mentor them on breastfeeding" |
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11:07:42 |
MOD_ariana |
I think the program is going really well. We've had
some wonderful success stories |
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11:07:57 |
MOD_ariana |
We've had A LOT of interest from new and pregnant moms |
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11:08:04 |
acidflowers |
hi, casual or formal chat today? i forgot |
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11:08:08 |
MOD_ariana |
I really think this is an idea that needs to be in place |
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11:08:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
FORMAL |
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11:08:16 |
MOD_ariana |
But we do need more mentors! |
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11:08:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
that we do! |
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11:08:35 |
MOD_ariana |
If you or someone you know is an experienced and
educated breastfeeder |
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11:08:53 |
MOD_ariana |
have them go to this post on live journal
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/712.html
and enter their info |
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11:09:15 |
MOD_ariana |
If you know someone who is a new mom and needs help have
them go here
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16823.html
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11:09:23 |
cassandrakfreaq |
how experienced... i have BFed for almost 6 months and
have experience with tounge-tie, plugged ducts, thrush
and so on....i'll help if needed |
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11:09:34 |
MOD_ariana |
For pregnant moms who need to learn a lot before the
baby comes
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16919.html
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11:09:57 |
MOD_ariana |
We usually ask that our mentors have 6 months experience
so you'd be welcome to apply |
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11:10:18 |
MOD_ariana |
We like to match up new moms with mentors who have had
similar experience |
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11:10:25 |
cassandrakfreaq |
oh ok great I will do so once I get back from vacation |
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11:10:35 |
Hayley |
same here |
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11:10:37 |
MOD_ariana |
older child younger nursling, or working/pumping or
whatever |
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11:10:55 |
MOD_ariana |
so I really like to have a large selection of mentors to
call upon so PLEASE spread the word |
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11:11:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes please |
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11:11:24 |
buzzy_bee |
I'll wait another two months then |
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11:11:26 |
Hayley |
sure i thought about applying before but wasn't sure how
experienced you had to be |
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11:11:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's vitally important that we get enough mentors and
helping people out |
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11:11:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes we just ask that you've had at least 6 months |
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11:11:51 |
buzzy_bee |
(though have experience of thrush, plugged ducts,
reynauds, OAL and food intolerances) |
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11:11:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
OK NEXT |
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11:11:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
OUR MISSION STATEMENT |
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11:12:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
Has been beautifully written by Anna Swank |
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11:12:12 |
Xavi |
boo! |
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11:12:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
who is known as xxveigaxx I believe on LJ |
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11:12:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
so here it is in all its glory |
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11:12:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
Breastfeedingisnormal.org is committed to making a
positive difference in the perception of breastfeeding,
to making the practice of breastfeeding normal" again in
our society, and to replacing the onslaught of infant
formula found in today's media with breastfeeding
education and resources. Through political advocacy,
Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes governmental support
and protection of breastfeeding mothers and their
children. Through education and support,
Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes healthy alternatives
to formula use, encourages new mothers to begin and
continue breastfeeding, gives mothers the confidence to
nurse their children in public, and gives society the
understanding that breastfeeding is normal." |
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11:13:08 |
tristyn |
Can I offer a suggestion? |
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11:13:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
of course |
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11:13:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
the floor is open |
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11:13:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
open even. |
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11:14:02 |
MOD_ariana |
tristyn you're our favorite editor!! |
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11:14:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh tristyn.........we're waiting! lol |
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11:14:17 |
tristyn |
replacing the onslaught of formula" - there isn't actual
formula in the media - maybe edit a bit to something
like "replacing the onslaught of pro-formula
advertising"" |
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11:14:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
*whip* |
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11:14:35 |
Hayley |
there is formula in the media |
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11:14:41 |
ncsujen |
free samples? |
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11:14:43 |
MOD_ariana |
Ok, now that's bringing scary pictures to my mind! |
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11:14:46 |
cassandrakfreaq |
oh I will weep the day I am out in public and I see most
mothers unabashedly nursing |
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11:14:49 |
tristyn |
I've never had a can of formula fall out of a magazine
and hit my lap |
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11:14:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
you haven't? |
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11:14:59 |
Hayley |
oh ok |
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11:15:01 |
Hayley |
i see your point, sorry |
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11:15:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
I have have! ;) |
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11:15:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha. |
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11:15:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think that is a great suggestion |
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11:15:14 |
tristyn |
I'm admittedly a semantics whore |
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11:15:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's why we like you |
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11:15:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
any other suggestions? |
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11:15:27 |
tristyn |
Other than that, I think it's great. |
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11:15:41 |
acidflowers |
it definitely is |
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11:15:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
alrighty |
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11:15:47 |
MOD_ariana |
You are the best semantics whore there is |
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11:15:49 |
sunshineblossom |
I like it |
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11:15:51 |
Xavi |
First time I've seen it and I really like it too. Good
job! |
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11:15:53 |
cassandrakfreaq |
I dont know if you take a marketing class and see why
they ddo their ads the way they do youb might change
your mind |
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11:15:56 |
acidflowers |
our boobs are going to change the world! |
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11:16:00 |
cassandrakfreaq |
sorry guys NAK |
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11:16:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
WELL Hello Miss Promom |
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11:16:03 |
tristyn |
I'm a semantics call girl. Top of the ladder. |
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11:16:08 |
Xavi |
I snuck in :) |
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11:16:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe |
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11:16:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
we're going to talk about you in a sec |
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11:16:16 |
MOD_ariana |
hi class! |
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11:16:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
ON NEXT UP LADIES |
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11:16:22 |
acidflowers |
talk about who? |
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11:16:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
Site Delay |
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11:16:26 |
Xavi |
Jazzy is eating some Cheerio's so I figured I'd take the
5 minutes I had |
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11:16:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
AWESOME |
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11:16:33 |
tristyn |
Cass, I think someone taking classes in marketing would
be astoundingly useful |
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11:16:41 |
Xavi |
Talk about me I'd imagine....shall I introduce myself
Noel? |
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11:16:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
Go for i |
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11:16:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
it |
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11:16:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
You have the floor |
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11:16:52 |
Hayley |
i have to go sorry |
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11:16:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
we'll just skip right to you since you have a sec |
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11:17:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
transcripts will be up on sunday! |
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11:17:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
bye hayley |
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11:17:23 |
Xavi |
My name is Carrie (also known as Xavi7734 on LJ), I'm
the current Webmaster and 2005 National Nurse Out
Director for ProMoM.Org and starting in September I will
be the Executive Director as well. |
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11:17:26 |
Xavi |
So that's me, talk away :D |
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11:17:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha |
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11:17:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright |
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11:17:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
well for those of you who don't know Promom is another
advocacy site |
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11:17:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
and every year they do a National Nurse Out |
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11:17:54 |
jucifer |
I love PROMOM |
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11:17:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.promom.org/nno |
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11:18:00 |
Xavi |
Promotion of Mohter's Milk |
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11:18:01 |
tristyn |
Oh, great, I really love the 3min advocacy on promom! |
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11:18:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
all the info you need can be found at that link |
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11:18:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
sorry boob juice promotion ;) |
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11:18:20 |
Xavi |
lol |
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11:18:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
Already planned nurse outs can be found here
http://www.promom.org/nno/localnurseouts.htm |
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11:18:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
Info on how to organize your own local Nurse out
http://www.promom.org/nno/organizeLNO.htm |
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11:18:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
so please check out those links |
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11:18:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
Pormom is a GREAT organization |
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11:18:54 |
Xavi |
My personal goal for the NNO this year, is to have a
Nurse Out organized in every state (at a bare minimum) |
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11:18:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
I can only hope that ours is as well established and
respected as promom someday |
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11:19:06 |
Xavi |
Each year we also have Nurse Out's in other countries
and it's fantastic. |
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11:19:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
doesn't matter how big or how small, as long as you are
out nursing your baby |
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11:19:13 |
Xavi |
Awwww, that's sweet. |
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11:19:36 |
cassandrakfreaq |
are you allowed to bring this up at your local LLL
meetings? |
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11:19:44 |
Xavi |
Well.....that's tricky |
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11:19:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
so please check ou the site and see how you can help
organize a nurse out in your area |
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11:19:52 |
Xavi |
If you are a LLL Leader, technically you are not |
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11:20:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
what if you're just a memeber? |
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11:20:03 |
Xavi |
But that doesn't mean that you can't have your core
Mom's bring it up |
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11:20:05 |
Astabeth |
Are there any plans to have a national nurse out? Like,
same time all over the US? |
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11:20:09 |
cassandrakfreaq |
im not i just attend and i am a member |
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11:20:11 |
tristyn |
LLLI leaders are supposed to stick to the official
cirriculum, yes? |
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11:20:13 |
Xavi |
And it can be brought up after the formal part of the
meeting |
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11:20:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
like bring in a flyer and say 'hey is anyone going? lets
meet up!' |
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11:20:14 |
Xavi |
Yes |
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11:20:20 |
Xavi |
Yup exactly Noel |
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11:20:26 |
tristyn |
And could I have spelled that more poorly... |
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11:20:31 |
Xavi |
Astabeth - there is usually a Nurse Out like you are
speaking of in Berkeley each year |
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11:20:33 |
cassandrakfreaq |
thats what i was gonna do |
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11:20:37 |
Xavi |
I haven't heard anything about it this year though |
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11:20:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
great! Cass! |
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11:20:54 |
Xavi |
Awesome Cass! |
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11:20:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think that there are flyers ON promom that you could
print out yourself |
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11:21:00 |
Xavi |
Yup there sure are |
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11:21:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
right Carrie? |
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11:21:06 |
Xavi |
Right |
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11:21:13 |
acidflowers |
do you have to pay to be a member of LLL? i think i
remember checking into my local chapter and it said you
have to pay |
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11:21:15 |
Astabeth |
I would like to see groups planning one all over the US
on the same day- that would get lots of media attention,
I think |
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11:21:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
see this is another way to promote breastfeeding as well |
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11:21:26 |
Astabeth |
I would be willing to help organize... |
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11:21:27 |
Xavi |
You do have to pay to be a member, but you don't have to
be a member to attend |
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11:21:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
promom has flyers to download yourself and print up and
heck, you could take them to your DR office, the laundry
mat |
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11:21:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
any place where kids babies and moms are |
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11:21:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
and tack one up |
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11:21:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
you're getting the word out! |
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11:21:50 |
Xavi |
We also have pre-written press releases that you can
send out to your local media |
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11:21:59 |
tristyn |
The formula aisle of the grocery store... |
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11:22:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
all the information is on the promom site! |
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11:22:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha T! |
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11:22:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.promom.org/nno |
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11:22:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.promom.org/nno |
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11:22:18 |
cassandrakfreaq |
you can attend for free otherwise its 36 dollars to be
a member but they are not pushy at all in fact they dont
even bring it up |
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11:22:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.promom.org/nno |
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11:22:19 |
Xavi |
You rock Noel, thanks for the plug |
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11:22:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
of course |
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11:22:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
thanks for having a great site! |
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11:22:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
OH AND ONE MORE THING LADIES |
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11:22:37 |
Xavi |
And if anyone needs to talk to me about it directly
webmaster@promom.org |
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11:22:43 |
acidflowers |
ooh, that's really good to know |
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11:22:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
THE 101 REASONS TO BREASTFEED YOUR BABY HAS BEEN UPDATED
WITH MORE INFOR |
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11:22:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
INFO |
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11:22:49 |
acidflowers |
i really want to attend some meetings in my area |
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11:22:50 |
Xavi |
NEW info! |
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11:22:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
more new better |
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11:22:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:23:00 |
MOD_ariana |
I saw that! |
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11:23:05 |
Xavi |
http://www.promom.org/101 |
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11:23:08 |
MOD_ariana |
It's new and improved |
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11:23:12 |
Xavi |
We've also got a PDF file that you can download on your
own :) |
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11:23:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
promom rocks |
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11:23:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok, enough mushy mushy on the promom, lets move on |
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11:23:32 |
jucifer |
My husband and I give to the poorest LLL in the city of
Boston, I think everyone should give to a local LLL -
even if it's 5 bucks a month. |
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11:23:33 |
Xavi |
In my best Elvis voice -- thank you, thank you very much |
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11:23:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
hahaha |
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11:23:37 |
cassandrakfreaq |
i would definitely if i were you...i was afraid to go at
first and i am so glad i finally did' |
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11:23:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
OK |
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11:23:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
SOME OF YOU ARE PROBABLY WONDERING WHERE THIS SITE IS |
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11:24:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE'VE HAD A SLIGHT DELAY IN THE MAKING OF THE SITE |
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11:24:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT FOR GREAT REASON |
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11:24:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
We got a very generous offer from a very talented site
builder to make the site so much more than it would have
been, with a great searchable structure and easy
updating, but these things take time. Once the site is
up it’ll be even better than previously anticipated. |
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11:24:25 |
Xavi |
WOW! |
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11:24:28 |
Xavi |
Great news! |
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11:24:30 |
acidflowers |
awesome |
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11:24:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
IT'S BUILT ALMOST LIKE LJ |
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11:24:33 |
ncsujen |
yay! |
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11:24:40 |
conchispa |
yay! |
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11:24:42 |
cassandrakfreaq |
cool |
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11:24:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
BASICALLY WE HAVE A MGR SECTION THAT WE PLUG INTO AND
CAN ADD AND DELETE INFO |
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11:24:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
THE SITE IS STRONG |
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11:25:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
MADE OF STEEL AND CONCRETE |
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11:25:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
IT'S AWESOME |
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11:25:11 |
cassandrakfreaq |
and liquid gold ;) |
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11:25:13 |
acidflowers |
i can't wait to see it |
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11:25:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
SO WE ARE JUST WORKING OUT SOME KINKS AND IT WILL BE
GOOD TO GO |
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11:25:59 |
Xavi |
That's really some fantastic news! It was great to
begin with but this will be awesome! |
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11:26:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
HERE IS A LITTLE PEAK AT IT |
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11:26:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://bfin.home.internal.org |
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11:26:22 |
cassandrakfreaq |
oh wow |
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11:26:28 |
cassandrakfreaq |
that looks fabulous |
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11:26:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
IT MAY LOAD A BIT SLOW SINCE SHE'S WORKING ON IT RIGHT
NOW |
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11:26:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
IT'S AMAZING |
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11:26:48 |
Xavi |
nice!!! |
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11:26:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
REALLY THE BACKEND STUFF IS LIKE BEYOND ME |
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11:27:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
IT'S SO SOLID. |
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11:27:05 |
ncsujen |
looks great |
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11:27:08 |
acidflowers |
gorgeous! |
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11:27:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
TAHOEBEAN AND HAROLDP ARE THE ONES TO THANK |
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11:27:20 |
Xavi |
I was just about to ask that |
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11:27:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET A POOL TOGETHER AND BUY THEIR
DAUGHTER SOME ROBEEZ OR SOMETIHNG. ;) |
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11:27:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
HAHA, PRESENTS FOR THE BABY BUT NOT MOM AND DAD ;) |
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11:27:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
OK, |
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11:27:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
NEXT UP |
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11:27:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
More Myths |
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11:28:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
We still need myths to be sent to us at
infor@breastfeedingisnormal.org . Or you can visit
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/board and
drop your myths there. I KNOW you all have heard some
winners, being members of livejournal, where the 1% of
women who can’t breastfeed all have live journals. |
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11:28:07 |
acidflowers |
wow, i'm really impressed |
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11:28:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
THAT WOULD BE
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:28:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR |
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11:28:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
We have: Women who are Vegetarians or Vegans won’t be
able to breastfeed Unsafe to breastfeed while
pregnant Large or Small breasts Flat or inverted
nipples Breast surgery Mom needs medications
Mom has PPD Milk wasn’t fatty enough/didn’t have
enough calories Baby won’t gain enough weight on
breast milk Mom plans on returning to
work/school Baby is premature Mother has
diabetes Can’t make enough for twins It will
cause your breasts to sag I had sore/bleeding
nipples I can’t breastfeed in public Mom doesn’t
want to adjust her diet Mom smokes Mom wants to
drink alcohol occasionally Moms who nurse are
sexually abusing their babies It will spoil the baby |
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11:29:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
These are the myths that were collected several chats
ago, our great list members have found links and info to
debunk them. YAY But now we want MORE myths. |
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11:29:12 |
Xavi |
Hey Noel - would it be possible to send you a list of
what you are still missing? I know that I've sent in a
ton but don't want to be replicating work others are
doing. |
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11:29:14 |
buzzy_bee |
if you exercise your milk will dry up (from a health
prof) |
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11:29:18 |
cassandrakfreaq |
you know i need to get on that I had a bunch of info and
my comp crashed,..... i was so pissed i never got back
to starting all over again] |
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11:29:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
WELL WE'RE LOOKING FOR MORE MYTHS |
|
11:29:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
THESE LISTED HERE ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE AND THAT ARE
COMPLETED. |
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11:29:38 |
Xavi |
Nevermind, I need to learn how to read..haha |
|
11:29:39 |
MOD_ariana |
Those myths that Housepoet posted have info already |
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11:29:43 |
conchispa |
myth: mothers who've had breast reduction can't
breastfeed |
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11:30:03 |
MOD_ariana |
What we need now are MORE Myths that aren't on that list |
|
11:30:04 |
ncsujen |
I heard the other day that if you breastfeed you'll
NEVER lose the baby weight. (bs!) |
|
11:30:05 |
buzzy_bee |
ok gotta go pick up DH from work, its 5:30 here |
|
11:30:07 |
jucifer |
Even mothers who have no milk, can still NURSE |
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11:30:09 |
buzzy_bee |
sorry folks |
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11:30:14 |
jucifer |
w/ an SNS |
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11:30:21 |
acidflowers |
omg jen, what moron said that |
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11:30:23 |
conchispa |
jucifier: exactly! |
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11:30:30 |
ncsujen |
MY PEDIATRICIAN'S NURSE |
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11:30:35 |
buzzy_bee |
omg! |
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11:30:37 |
acidflowers |
holy crap |
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11:30:39 |
candiedsanity |
Don't forget that breastfeeding mothers don't make
enough vitamin K so we have to supplement with Enfamil
vitamin drops. |
|
11:30:41 |
ncsujen |
when I called to pay them the $300 they were harassing
me for. lol |
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11:30:46 |
cassandrakfreaq |
what can you give a personal testimony cuz my son is 5
and a half month and i have lost almost 80 lb.s.... |
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11:30:54 |
buzzy_bee |
bye all |
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11:30:59 |
MOD_ariana |
bye buzzy |
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11:31:09 |
acidflowers |
80 pounds? wow |
|
11:31:11 |
jucifer |
I didn't lose any weight due to the medication I am on. |
|
11:31:17 |
MOD_ariana |
We prefer to have links to info rather than just"
personal experiences" |
|
11:31:21 |
jucifer |
But, that is not because of nursing - it's b/c of the
meds |
|
11:31:21 |
MOD_ariana |
but everything helps |
|
11:31:25 |
ncsujen |
The only time I wasn't losing weight while nursing was
when I was on the bc pill. |
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11:31:53 |
Xavi |
myth: hormonal birth control will not reduce your
supply |
|
11:31:54 |
Hisrisingstar |
hey everyone! It took me forever to figure out how to
register! |
|
11:31:54 |
MOD_ariana |
BC pills is another myth |
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11:31:57 |
cassandrakfreaq |
I havent used any birthcontrol and I take a belly
dancing class and another dance class but i eat likew
cow |
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11:32:08 |
tristyn |
Ariana - in which sense? |
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11:32:19 |
MOD_ariana |
Well in two senses |
|
11:32:30 |
MOD_ariana |
the one Xavi mentioned that it does NOT hurt supply |
|
11:32:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
ANOTHER MYTH THAT HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME LATELY |
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11:32:39 |
MOD_ariana |
and that you CAN'T be on BC while nursing |
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11:32:42 |
tristyn |
Ah, OK. |
|
11:32:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
IS THE FLICKING A BABY WHEN THEY BITE YOU |
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11:32:51 |
jucifer |
housepoet - flicking??? |
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11:32:54 |
acidflowers |
oh lord |
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11:32:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
OH GIRL |
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11:32:57 |
acidflowers |
haha |
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11:32:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
YOU DONT EVEN KNOW |
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11:32:59 |
Xavi |
Grrr totally inappropriate! |
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11:33:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
BNS, LADIES |
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11:33:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
BNS |
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11:33:03 |
ncsujen |
I've even heard that it will mess with the effectiveness
of your bc pill to nurse because part of the medication
goes away in your milk. |
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11:33:06 |
ncsujen |
You can thank LJ for that gem. |
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11:33:09 |
jucifer |
I saw - bite them back"" |
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11:33:13 |
jucifer |
OMG |
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11:33:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND FLICK THEM BACK |
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11:33:15 |
Xavi |
Babies who are actively nursing CANNOT physically bite. |
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11:33:18 |
cassandrakfreaq |
yeah my doctor tried to tell me i coundlt take them and
I was like yes youy can and i todl him which ones....he
must hate me |
|
11:33:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
SO I'D LIKE CARRIE TO ANSWER THIS ONE |
|
11:33:22 |
meldess |
Another myth: Papa can't bond with baby if s/he is
breastfed |
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11:33:24 |
acidflowers |
i agree with xavi |
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11:33:26 |
jucifer |
xavi - correct! |
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11:33:29 |
Xavi |
OKAY HERE'S MY STANDARD LLL ANSWER |
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11:33:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
SPEAKING FROM THE LLL POINT OF VIEW |
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11:33:39 |
acidflowers |
good one meldess! |
|
11:33:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
shoot |
|
11:33:50 |
conchispa |
is the myth can't breastfeed if go back to work up
there? |
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11:33:59 |
MOD_ariana |
conchispa yeah that one is there |
|
11:34:04 |
Xavi |
Like I said above, a baby who is actively nursing,
physically cannot bite. So the first step is to WATCH
your child and pay attention. If you are paying close
enough attention you can unlatch in time before he/she
starts to bite |
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11:34:15 |
jucifer |
yup! |
|
11:34:18 |
MOD_ariana |
Exactly |
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11:34:19 |
tristyn |
The problem, it seems to me, is that doctors don't
realize there are two aspects of safety, when it comes
to BC and BF - yes, it's safe as in, the hormones
excreted in milk aren't dangerous to the nursling. |
|
11:34:19 |
Xavi |
It is NOT appropriate to flick, pinch, bite or otherwise
hurt your child because they hurt you |
|
11:34:38 |
tristyn |
But it's unsafe due to the impact on lactation |
|
11:34:42 |
Xavi |
It is, however appropriate to put your child down
explain calmly that the nursing session is over and go
about your day. |
|
11:34:46 |
cassandrakfreaq |
hiw can someone be ok with flicking an effing 4 month
old thats what i'd like to know jesus!! |
|
11:34:47 |
acidflowers |
my daughter has just gotten 5 teeth in the past two
weeks and ever since, i've started to watch, and make
sure she's eating so i can avoid biting altogether |
|
11:35:01 |
tristyn |
Well, the poster in that case clarified that she was
just tapping the child's cheek because the child has an
aversion to face touching while eating |
|
11:35:12 |
Xavi |
Teething is a HUGE harbringer of biting behavior |
|
11:35:32 |
ncsujen |
still.. why teach that you respond to violence/hurting
with doing something the other person doesn't like/is
hurt by? |
|
11:35:35 |
jucifer |
hasn't anyone heard of hylands???? :):) |
|
11:35:35 |
ncsujen |
bad example to set. |
|
11:35:42 |
acidflowers |
hylands? |
|
11:35:48 |
ncsujen |
teething pills (homeopathic) |
|
11:35:49 |
jucifer |
teething tablets |
|
11:35:53 |
conchispa |
i told my baby she is not allowed to have teeth :) |
|
11:35:56 |
jucifer |
www.hylands.com |
|
11:35:59 |
acidflowers |
lol conchispa |
|
11:36:01 |
tristyn |
Is a tap inherently painful or violent? |
|
11:36:03 |
jucifer |
lol @ con |
|
11:36:04 |
cassandrakfreaq |
morgan got his first tooth three days ago....no biting
yet lol |
|
11:36:18 |
acidflowers |
honestly, i think that whole flicking thing is way out
of hand |
|
11:36:22 |
jucifer |
My daughter has 12 teeth - she's 14 months!!! 4 molars! |
|
11:36:24 |
Xavi |
Terrible example to set and in all honesty will likely
do one of two things. 1. Lead to early weaning
(because the baby becomes too frightened to nurse) or
2. Actually INCREASE the behavior because the baby
see's Mom's exaggerated reaction and finds it |
|
11:36:27 |
vickibee |
Hello there! Baby is napping in his carseat before lunch
by surprise so thought I'd join in. |
|
11:36:27 |
Xavi |
funny so they will do it again |
|
11:36:32 |
meldess |
why not bite the baby back??? JUST KIDDING. didn't
someone say tjat? nak |
|
11:36:33 |
tristyn |
I do agree that paying attention to latch is a much
better idea. But I think people got a bit carried away
there. |
|
11:36:38 |
acidflowers |
i don't believe she's injuring her child, i believe it's
probably a tap, an annoyance, i agree that there is no
need to flick |
|
11:37:02 |
vickibee |
My little uy is getting his 2 year molars, he's having a
tough time of it. |
|
11:37:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
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11:37:19 |
jucifer |
brb |
|
11:37:21 |
Hisrisingstar |
Someone tried to give my 6 month old an oreo yesterday! |
|
11:37:41 |
cassandrakfreaq |
whar!!!!!!! |
|
11:37:42 |
tristyn |
Funny that the 2-yr molars were actually the easiest
teeth for my son! I thought they'd be awful. |
|
11:37:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
HAS EVERYON SIGNED UP AT THE BOARD? |
|
11:37:48 |
acidflowers |
what did youdo? |
|
11:37:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND VOTED FOR THE NIGHT TIME CHAT? |
|
11:37:53 |
Hisrisingstar |
I smakced her hand away |
|
11:37:56 |
acidflowers |
hahaha |
|
11:37:56 |
cassandrakfreaq |
yeah i would have freaked |
|
11:37:56 |
Hisrisingstar |
smacked |
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11:37:57 |
Xavi |
Good for you! |
|
11:38:03 |
Hisrisingstar |
I probably shouldnt have smacked her hand |
|
11:38:06 |
Hisrisingstar |
but I was furious |
|
11:38:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
OK LADIES NEXT TOPIC |
|
11:38:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR AGAIN AT THE END |
|
11:38:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
|
11:38:21 |
cassandrakfreaq |
yes you should have |
|
11:38:21 |
vickibee |
Smacked the person, not the baby, right? :) |
|
11:38:28 |
acidflowers |
*sshhh* |
|
11:38:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have
your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU!
:)" |
|
11:38:36 |
Hisrisingstar |
haha I smacked the womans hand who was trying to feed my
baby an oreo! |
|
11:38:49 |
vickibee |
? |
|
11:38:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED IS LOCAL CAPTINS FOR THE
POLICTICAL SIDE OF THINGS |
|
11:39:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
who is interested in the law and is a legal watcher. |
|
11:39:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE NEED WOMEN TO BE THE LEADERS FOR THEIR AREAS, STATES,
WHAT HAVE YOU |
|
11:39:21 |
Hisrisingstar |
im a political science major |
|
11:39:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
YOU CAN SIGN UP ON THE SITE, AND PUT UP A POST |
|
11:39:35 |
cassandrakfreaq |
I would loveto learn ...wisconsin needs help desperately |
|
11:39:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
THAT YOU WANT TO BE THE LEADER FOR YOUR STATE |
|
11:39:51 |
cassandrakfreaq |
yes |
|
11:39:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT YOU'LL BE THE GO TO PERSON FOR
YOUR STATE |
|
11:40:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND THEN YOU WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF GATHERING INFO OR
ASKING OTHERS TO, ABOUT POLITICAL HAPPENINGS IN YOUR
STATE |
|
11:40:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
IT'S WORK, BUT REALLY WORTH IT ONCE WE GET THINGS UP AND
RUNNING |
|
11:40:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
YOUR FINDINGS WOULD GO ON THE SITE IN THE POLITICAL
SECTION |
|
11:41:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND WE WOULD TRY AND ENCOURAGE WOMEN ON YOUR STATE TO
VOTE FOR POLITICIANS WHO ARE PRO-BF |
|
11:41:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND WE WOULD GET BILLS PASSED THAT ARE PRO-BF |
|
11:41:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE KINKS ON HOW TO MAKE THIS
HAPPEN EASILY |
|
11:41:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT WE'LL GET THERE |
|
11:41:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO HELP |
|
11:41:36 |
alphapythia |
well that took forevere to join- hey guys |
|
11:41:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND VOLENTEER |
|
11:41:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE STILL NEED GRAMMAR NAZIS |
|
11:41:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
TO EDIT ARTICLES |
|
11:41:57 |
vickibee |
I'd love to help edit stuff. |
|
11:42:01 |
jucifer |
angwish - grammar nazis |
|
11:42:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
SUGARPOISIONAPPLE DID A GREAT JOB ON WRITING UP BLURBS
FOR THE SITE |
|
11:42:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
OH HECK YAH |
|
11:42:12 |
MOD_ariana |
Friendly Reminder: Please do not post unless it is your
turn to ask a question. If you have a question, please
post a single ?" and you'll be added to the queue. Have
your question ready when your name is called. THANKYOU!
:)" |
|
11:42:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND YOU JUICE, WE NEED LIKE ALL YOUR LINKS |
|
11:42:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
|
11:42:28 |
jucifer |
k |
|
11:42:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
ACUTALLY THAT WAS SOMETHING i WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT |
|
11:42:37 |
acidflowers |
i'm a great grammar nazi |
|
11:42:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
SO STICK AROUND I WANT TO PICK YOUR BRAIN |
|
11:42:45 |
jucifer |
k |
|
11:42:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE ALSO NEED |
|
11:42:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
PEOPLE TO MAKE NIP TUTORIALS |
|
11:42:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
WITH IMAGES |
|
11:43:03 |
acidflowers |
? |
|
11:43:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
I KNOW WE ASKED ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST CHAT |
|
11:43:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT AGAIN ANYONE WITH A DIGITAL CAMERA |
|
11:43:09 |
Xavi |
What a GREAT idea!!! |
|
11:43:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW MOMS HOW TO NIP CORRECTLY |
|
11:43:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
EVEN IF YOU JUST TAKE THE IMAGES I CAN MAKE THE TUTORIAL |
|
11:43:28 |
Xavi |
That is freaking brilliant! |
|
11:43:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
WE WANT BABIES OF ALL AGES |
|
11:43:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
AND SIZES |
|
11:43:33 |
jucifer |
Not wantonly? ;) |
|
11:43:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'M GOING TO MAKE ONE WITH MY 21 MONTH OLD ;) |
|
11:43:51 |
conchispa |
? |
|
11:43:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT IF ANYONE HAS A SMALLER BABY, WE WANT YOU TO DO SO
AS WELL |
|
11:44:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
WHAT I WILL DO, I PROMISE, IS MAKE ONE, AND THEN YOU
JUST COPY THE POSES THAT I'VE DONE |
|
11:44:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
YOU CAN SEND THE IMAGES MY WAY |
|
11:44:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
noel@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
|
11:44:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
If you have any questions, please double click on her
name and that will open a small private window for you
to chat with her in. |
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11:44:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
ariana that is |
|
11:44:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
LASTLY I THINK |
|
11:44:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
Media Relations – someone to keep a rolodex of media
contacts in each state. |
|
11:45:17 |
Xavi |
I can send you what I have for Georgia since I just got
done sending about 100+ Press Releases out for the NNO |
|
11:45:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
THAT WOULD BE GREAT |
|
11:45:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
SEE GUYS, PROMOM ROCKS |
|
11:45:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
OH AND ONE MORE THING |
|
11:45:40 |
Xavi |
lol |
|
11:45:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
EYEZWIDEOPEN WHO VOLENTEERED TO HELP OUT WITH THE
NON-PROFIT INFO |
|
11:46:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
IS IN THE MIDDLE OF BUYING HER FIRST HOUSE |
|
11:46:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
SO IT LOOKS LIKE SHE MIGHT BE A BIT BUSY ;) |
|
11:46:21 |
Xavi |
Okay I've got to run and make some more cucumbers for
Jazzy. Noel call me later if you want or if you need
anything. |
|
11:46:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS MADE A NON PROFIT BEFORE
THAT CAN HELP US ESTABLISH OURSELVES AND BECOME A NON
PROFIT ? |
|
11:46:30 |
Xavi |
Let me know what you need with the NP stuff and I'll put
it together for you |
|
11:46:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
WILL DO |
|
11:46:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'LL CALL YO ON MY BREAK FROM CLASS ;) |
|
11:46:39 |
Xavi |
At least get youa list of what you need |
|
11:46:41 |
Xavi |
k |
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11:46:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
THANKS FOR COMING |
|
11:46:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
ALRIGHT LADIES |
|
11:46:48 |
Xavi |
you bet! Bye everyone! |
|
11:46:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR ANYTHING? |
|
11:46:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
QUESTIONS? |
|
11:46:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
THOUGHTS? |
|
11:46:59 |
alphapythia |
ive made a church before, its similar to a 501c3 |
|
11:47:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
JOKES? |
|
11:47:11 |
jucifer |
a church? |
|
11:47:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
A CHURCH? |
|
11:47:30 |
acidflowers |
i don't think i'd be very good at the political stuff,
but i definitely want to help |
|
11:47:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
well we can use you to edit articles. |
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11:47:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
once they are up on the web |
|
11:47:48 |
Hisrisingstar |
I had a thought, how do I get my husband to be more
understanding of breastfeeding? |
|
11:47:54 |
MOD_ariana |
acidflowers there isn't a whole lot to the politics
stuff right now |
|
11:47:55 |
jucifer |
my husband is great at political stuff |
|
11:47:57 |
alphapythia |
yeah, we got our coven recongnized as a legal church so
that we could grant clergy status for weddings/hos
visits etc |
|
11:47:57 |
MOD_ariana |
it's mostly research |
|
11:48:01 |
jucifer |
and he is a great writer |
|
11:48:03 |
acidflowers |
i can also write articles, i finally got around to
writing my first one the other day |
|
11:48:10 |
Hisrisingstar |
hes always telling me to cover up, or I shouldnt judge
people for formula feeding, and he said I was too
fanatical and obsessed" with breastfeedingh" |
|
11:48:10 |
jucifer |
COOL! |
|
11:48:19 |
jucifer |
that is - cool to the coven"" |
|
11:48:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
my says that too at times |
|
11:48:38 |
ncsujen |
mine too |
|
11:48:43 |
Hisrisingstar |
it makes me furious! |
|
11:48:48 |
acidflowers |
ugh, men |
|
11:48:49 |
jucifer |
he has started a BF paper" already and need to work on
it" |
|
11:48:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
I just chalk it up to his own misunderstanding of
breastfeeding |
|
11:49:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
men just won't get it bc they are not mothers |
|
11:49:12 |
meldess |
Mine, too. He told me that I have no other interests
and I said, so?"" |
|
11:49:14 |
jucifer |
He is a brilliant writer - and I'm not saying that b/c
he's my hubby |
|
11:49:20 |
ncsujen |
especially if they haven't been exposed to it prior to
having their first baby |
|
11:49:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
I would love to see that juice! |
|
11:49:29 |
jucifer |
I'll send you the beginings of it |
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11:49:30 |
MOD_ariana |
jucifer I don't believe you'd marry anyone less than
brilliant!! |
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11:49:34 |
conchispa |
i can also write articles. i'id also like to get somehow
involved with educating healthcare professionals about
BFing |
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11:49:36 |
jucifer |
it needs spellcheck! |
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11:49:38 |
alphapythia |
hisrising- well, i tend to agree with the not ju7dging
people for formula feeding, as an unwilling (medically
nessery combo feeder myself, im always paranoid whcen im
bottle feeding in public that peiople think im doing it
willingly) but the covering up, h |
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11:49:40 |
Hisrisingstar |
lol |
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11:49:52 |
MOD_ariana |
Hisrisingstar I think education is key key key |
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11:49:56 |
Hisrisingstar |
yea, thats understandable. |
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11:50:07 |
jucifer |
baby is up! |
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11:50:07 |
MOD_ariana |
My dh would never read anything him self so I had to
spoon feed him info |
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11:50:09 |
Hisrisingstar |
i TRY to educate him |
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11:50:10 |
jucifer |
got to |
