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11:09:47 |
Host_housepoet |
OFFICIAL START OF THE BREASTFEEDINGISNORMAL.ORG CHAT!
WELCOME! MY NAME IS HOUSEPOET AND I AM YOUR HOSTESS
TODAY! THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED AND POSTED ON THE
SUNDAY FOLLOWING THIS CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND
WHEN POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :) |
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11:09:48 |
absenteeshe |
Good afternoon. :) |
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11:10:35 |
alphapythia |
small group this afternoon |
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11:10:40 |
alphapythia |
is there a specific topic? |
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11:11:06 |
Host_housepoet |
well we got a late spart today |
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11:11:11 |
Host_housepoet |
Im having baby issues |
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11:11:27 |
Host_housepoet |
start* |
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11:11:35 |
alphapythia |
aw :( is your babay ok? or just having a high needs day? |
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11:13:27 |
Host_housepoet |
no |
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11:13:34 |
Host_housepoet |
he's just nusring all freaking night |
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11:13:37 |
Host_housepoet |
he's 21 months old |
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11:13:45 |
Host_housepoet |
we have a mild case of thrush right now |
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11:14:02 |
Host_housepoet |
so he's just....being needy |
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11:14:15 |
Host_housepoet |
so sorry about the late start and lack of people in here |
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11:14:27 |
Host_housepoet |
this is the problem with advocates, advocacy is not our
full time job! |
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11:14:42 |
alphapythia |
gads thrush sucks, im sorry |
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11:14:44 |
Host_housepoet |
plus we're going up formula exe. that get paid to
advocate for their product right? ;) |
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11:15:39 |
mwalton |
yes, but they are stuck with a vastly inferior
product..so I feel badly for them ;) |
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11:15:52 |
Host_housepoet |
makes their job harder having to LIE all the time |
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11:16:08 |
Host_housepoet |
plus, I go to school full time and do freelance design. |
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11:16:12 |
Host_housepoet |
so I have a full plate :( |
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11:16:18 |
mwalton |
yes...that and the having to extricate their souls in
order to take the job..must make it tough |
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11:16:22 |
Host_housepoet |
HA! |
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11:16:24 |
Host_housepoet |
yes |
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11:16:37 |
xxveigaxx |
Hey everyone |
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11:16:43 |
alphapythia |
i persoanlly think formula should be by rx only and
shouldnt be sold by brand name |
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11:16:57 |
Host_housepoet |
I feel yo on that one |
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11:17:07 |
Host_housepoet |
I saw 'instant formula' at Costco the other day and
almost cired |
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11:17:14 |
Host_housepoet |
I can't imagine what is IN that. |
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11:17:51 |
alphapythia |
(and i use formula- but my dr was actually the one who
suggested that- he said, well, frankly, i think formula
should be only given by a dr. under dire
circumstances... with a rx, so i'm writing you one now,
so you know how reluctantly i encourage it"" |
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11:17:57 |
mwalton |
you know so many people wouldn't dream of buying
products for themselves without knowing everything about
what's in the product but think nothing of just blindly
buying formula to put in their babies' mouths..go figure |
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11:18:35 |
Host_housepoet |
yas and your curcumstances are different |
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11:18:43 |
xxveigaxx |
Just the smell of formula tells me that there's stuff in
there I don't want NEAR me or the boy. |
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11:19:14 |
Host_housepoet |
ew yes. |
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11:19:16 |
Host_housepoet |
it is gross |
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11:19:24 |
alphapythia |
its funny, using the stuff every day, it still smells
like a medicine to me, and thats really how i think of
it- my milk is my babies food and life source, and
formula is a medicine we have to use |
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11:20:12 |
xxveigaxx |
That makes sense |
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11:20:16 |
mwalton |
i hear you, I had to supplement the first 2 weeks
(glucose issues, only way they'd let him out of the
NICU) but when I got the all clear to stop supplementing
I cried for joy |
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11:20:26 |
Host_housepoet |
that makes a lot of sense |
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11:20:37 |
xxveigaxx |
You did an excellent job Melissa =) |
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11:20:42 |
Host_housepoet |
tha'ts awesome to hear |
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11:20:42 |
mwalton |
thanks to you! |
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11:20:50 |
Host_housepoet |
awwww mushy |
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11:20:52 |
Host_housepoet |
:) |
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11:21:08 |
MOD_ariana |
:) |
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11:21:29 |
alphapythia |
so i gotta tell you guys, i almost gave up this week, im
so glad to have the support |
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11:21:56 |
mwalton |
it makes all the difference in the world doesn't it? |
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11:22:04 |
MOD_ariana |
alphapythia what's been going wrong? |
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11:22:24 |
alphapythia |
i got run over bny the PPD train about the same time my
daughter decided to start a nursiong strike, my supply
(little as it is) totally craped out, and i tired the
sns and met with total failure |
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11:23:04 |
MOD_ariana |
:( |
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11:23:19 |
mwalton |
yikes! i'm so sorry, good for you for pushing through! |
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11:23:23 |
alphapythia |
it was just so many things in a few days, and i think
being depressed just made it all worse, i started
thinking that the (maybe 10 oz) a day shes getting just
werent enough to make any difference anyway and i was
torturing us both by trying |
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11:23:34 |
serendipitylove |
hellooo |
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11:23:43 |
MOD_ariana |
Hi serendipitylove |
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11:23:49 |
alphapythia |
hiya sere |
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11:24:02 |
serendipitylove |
how is everyone? |
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11:24:05 |
MOD_ariana |
alphapythia the thing is that almost same thing happens
to exclusive BFers |
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11:24:10 |
MOD_ariana |
there are just bad weeks |
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11:24:12 |
Host_housepoet |
my son just drump out all his water on his bowlk of
fruit |
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11:24:20 |
MOD_ariana |
I think it walso happens to exclusive formula feeders |
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11:24:20 |
serendipitylove |
lol |
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11:24:24 |
Host_housepoet |
then dumped the bowl of fruit on the table and the threw
the bowl on the floor |
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11:24:24 |
ncsujen |
haha |
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11:24:32 |
Host_housepoet |
AND GOOD MORNING! |
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11:24:32 |
serendipitylove |
grrreat |
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11:24:33 |
ncsujen |
oh.. no haha |
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11:24:37 |
Host_housepoet |
;) |
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11:24:39 |
serendipitylove |
to you too :) |
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11:24:44 |
Host_housepoet |
hey it comes with the teratory! |
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11:24:47 |
xxveigaxx |
sounds like breakfast over here most days |
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11:24:49 |
alphapythia |
but, i kept going, started pumping three times a day at
work instead of twice, and dealt with the depression
(well, at least acknoledgwed that i have it) and
s\things started getting better |
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11:24:58 |
alphapythia |
i pumped 2 oz this morning, which is amazing for me |
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11:25:03 |
serendipitylove |
Last night was a long night with Ben |
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11:25:12 |
Host_housepoet |
alphapythia have you ever written out your nursing
story? |
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11:25:15 |
mwalton |
yikes..i think i'll enjoy the nonmobile time with my son
then |
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11:25:24 |
serendipitylove |
I think he had a nightmare or something because he woke
up screaming and wanted to nurse all night |
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11:25:39 |
Host_housepoet |
sounds like my son last night |
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11:26:07 |
alphapythia |
no i have house- im sorry, its just been crazy, i will
though, promise |
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11:26:20 |
alphapythia |
oh crap, forgot to eat again- i have a cold and keep
forgetting to eat hehe |
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11:26:37 |
xxveigaxx |
Baby alert brb |
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11:26:38 |
serendipitylove |
I hate having colds nothing tastes good |
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11:27:01 |
alphapythia |
sere- my dd seems to have night errors for lack of a
better term, is so sad- what does a 5 month old have to
have bad dreams about? :( |
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11:27:11 |
serendipitylove |
thats what I was wondering |
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11:27:27 |
serendipitylove |
maybe that we have our boobs cut off? |
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11:27:55 |
mwalton |
I wonder the same thing when my little 7 week old laughs
or freaks out while sleeping...what experience is he
drawing on? |
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11:28:05 |
serendipitylove |
probably watching us |
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11:28:38 |
alphapythia |
oh mine would love to have my boobs cut off if they
still worked, that way she could be latched and watch
the ceiling fan, which is what she wants worse than
anything in this world |
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11:28:38 |
serendipitylove |
what makes me sad is people that practice CIO...and I
wonder of their babies are left to scream when the wake
up like that |
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11:28:43 |
serendipitylove |
brb |
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11:28:51 |
mwalton |
must be..it's still funny to see him waking up though..i
swear he still seems suprised...a little now where am i
again?" going on" |
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11:28:57 |
ncsujen |
lol ceiling fan |
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11:29:26 |
Host_housepoet |
so is everyone going to go to their own local nurse out
during WBF? |
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11:29:51 |
mwalton |
i don't know of one in my area,but if there is one i'll
go |
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11:30:38 |
MOD_ariana |
mwalton http://www.promom.org/nno/localnurseouts.php |
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11:30:45 |
MOD_ariana |
You can check to see if there's one near you |
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11:30:45 |
mwalton |
great thanks! |
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11:31:45 |
Host_housepoet |
Im planning one here |
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11:31:52 |
mwalton |
darn..none in Utah. |
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11:31:57 |
Host_housepoet |
I just have to finish up my promotion for it |
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11:31:59 |
Host_housepoet |
well then you do it |
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11:32:01 |
Host_housepoet |
it's not hard |
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11:32:08 |
mwalton |
i wouldn't even know where to begin! |
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11:32:09 |
Host_housepoet |
you can set it up and host one in Utah |
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11:32:18 |
Host_housepoet |
check out the links on the site |
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11:32:22 |
mwalton |
will do |
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11:32:25 |
Host_housepoet |
http://promom.com/nno |
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11:32:38 |
Host_housepoet |
there is info on how to do one yourself. |
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11:33:01 |
Host_housepoet |
you can always email me at
noel@breastfeedingisnormal.org to get some tips too |
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11:33:07 |
ncsujen |
none in nc, i'm surprised, wasn't there a big one in
charlotte a few weeks ago? |
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11:33:45 |
alphapythia |
anybody ever had thier pump explode? my pump came apart
when i was pumping at work and milk went everywhere- i
had to try and clean it up without anyone noticing... so
embarrasing |
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11:34:50 |
sunshineblossom |
hello all |
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11:34:55 |
MOD_ariana |
alphapythia :omg: |
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11:35:13 |
Host_housepoet |
oh no! |
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11:35:16 |
Host_housepoet |
that is terrible |
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11:36:43 |
alphapythia |
i have no idea why it suddenly came apart- it was very
weird |
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11:37:00 |
Waterbirthmama |
GOod afternoon ladies |
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11:37:02 |
cassandrakfreaq |
hi ladies |
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11:37:08 |
alphapythia |
of course i was half embarrased and half upset i lost
half an oz of milk- i get obsessive about these things
:) |
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11:37:42 |
Waterbirthmama |
I could use a little assistance...anyone willing ot
help? |
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11:38:00 |
cassandrakfreaq |
whats up? |
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11:38:03 |
Host_housepoet |
hey everyone |
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11:38:05 |
Host_housepoet |
sure |
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11:38:05 |
mwalton |
alphapythia:i would too! i normally only get about 1.5
oz when i pump (although i got 2.5 yesterday and about
jumped for joy)..so losing .5 oz is horrible |
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11:38:09 |
Host_housepoet |
we're all here to help out |
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11:38:28 |
Host_housepoet |
we're having a casual chat today since the host, myself,
is working on no sleep |
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11:38:36 |
Host_housepoet |
and a handful of a toddler right now |
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11:39:00 |
cassandrakfreaq |
thats cool! |
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11:39:12 |
Waterbirthmama |
I've just started back to the gym at 10 weeks pp. We
had introduced EBM at 8 weeks since I was also due to
start teaching prenatal classes again. NOw that I am
actually out of he house she is refusing the bottle. We
have triedcup feding but she is refus |
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11:39:47 |
Waterbirthmama |
And I'm functioning on no sleep aswell |
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11:39:58 |
cassandrakfreaq |
my son will only take medicine dropper feeding and even
then it has to be far back in the mouth...have you tried
that |
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11:40:15 |
sunshineblossom |
how long does it take for babes to get the hang of the
cup usually? |
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11:40:16 |
Waterbirthmama |
NO, I haven't. Maybe we'll give that atry. |
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11:40:45 |
Waterbirthmama |
My son was cup fed from about 8 weeks when I was at the
gym |
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11:41:00 |
sunshineblossom |
we dont do bottles here but i am looking at having to
have a biopsy done and we arent having any kind of luck
with the cup or anything else for that matter :( |
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11:41:28 |
Waterbirthmama |
I LOVE bfing. If I coud take her ot the gym with me I
would but they don't take babies that young. |
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11:42:02 |
MOD_ariana |
Waterbirthmama You can experiment with different bottle
nipples |
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11:42:05 |
cassandrakfreaq |
i hear ya I have been wanting to go work out so bad but
I cant take him with so I have jsut been doing tapes at
home |
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11:42:25 |
Waterbirthmama |
Any suggestions on differnt bottles? We have Avent |
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11:42:28 |
MOD_ariana |
Have the caregiver hold her like when BF or totally
different than with BF |
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11:43:21 |
Waterbirthmama |
My DH does that. Lol, he showers with her and she has
even latched on him to his dismay! |
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11:43:22 |
MOD_ariana |
I used munchkin nipples in playtex bottles |
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11:43:40 |
Waterbirthmama |
Muchkin, are they the softsilicone? |
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11:43:45 |
MOD_ariana |
yeah |
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11:43:49 |
cassandrakfreaq |
my son has latched on to hubby before to it was
hilarious |
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11:43:51 |
MOD_ariana |
This was 5 years ago though |
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11:43:59 |
MOD_ariana |
so, I'm not sure if they've changed or what |
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11:44:06 |
MOD_ariana |
but it was what my LC recommended |
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11:44:08 |
Waterbirthmama |
I have 4 kids, youngest is almost 11 weeks |
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11:44:33 |
Waterbirthmama |
I just got oe of the munchkins from a friend last night.
I'll try that today |
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11:45:07 |
Waterbirthmama |
HOw old ar eeeryone children? |
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11:45:15 |
Waterbirthmama |
I need sleep! Lok at my typos! |
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11:45:18 |
Waterbirthmama |
LOOK |
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11:46:00 |
cassandrakfreaq |
I have a 6 month old.....well he will be 6 months in 5
days lol....and don't wprry about the typos im NAK right
now so im sure I have a ton also |
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11:46:03 |
Host_housepoet |
my son is 21 months |
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11:46:03 |
ncsujen |
9 months on the 15th here |
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11:46:04 |
MOD_ariana |
I have a 5 year old and a 2 year old |
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11:46:09 |
alphapythia |
i use avent nipples, work well for us |
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11:46:38 |
alphapythia |
when we didnt reaklize how bad my supply problems were
yet my dd latched onot my dh's NOSE once-and wouldnt let
go |
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11:46:42 |
alphapythia |
we have a picture |
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11:46:58 |
cassandrakfreaq |
my god daughter is 21 months...born october 19th what is
your litle guys b-day |
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11:47:10 |
ncsujen |
15-Oct |
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11:47:28 |
sunshineblossom |
i have a three year old and an almost 7 month old |
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11:47:51 |
Waterbirthmama |
My eldest is Oct 10 |
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11:48:06 |
Waterbirthmama |
Did anyone's birt cause issues with bfing? |
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11:48:15 |
sunshineblossom |
we had Peytons six month check up yesterday |
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11:48:19 |
sunshineblossom |
i love her pedi |
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11:48:32 |
Host_housepoet |
24-Sep |
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11:48:34 |
sunshineblossom |
she told me that i didnt have to solids if i didnt want
to |
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11:48:48 |
Waterbirthmama |
Birth, not birt |
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11:48:57 |
alphapythia |
water- yes- i had a c-section and lost a LOTof blood
that cause me to dehydrate and my milk not to cone in
for 10 days |
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11:49:07 |
Waterbirthmama |
I had CS with my 3rd and BFing was so hard |
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11:49:31 |
Waterbirthmama |
ALpha, are things going well now? |
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11:49:43 |
Host_housepoet |
so he's actually 1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days old |
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11:49:51 |
Waterbirthmama |
It took me 8 weeks to get a good flow with 3rd baby. |
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11:50:05 |
cassandrakfreaq |
those of you with more than one children....how close
are yours in age.....I jsut got my period back and we
were gonna start trying for our next one when morgan
turns 9 months but I am afraid of losing milk supply |
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11:50:13 |
alphapythia |
water- er well no not really, but i also have thyroid
and pituitary issues messing everything up |
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11:50:29 |
alphapythia |
one day at a time though eh? im still here after all :) |
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11:50:32 |
Waterbirthmama |
Oh no! |
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11:50:42 |
cassandrakfreaq |
whoops i mean more than one child |
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11:50:49 |
Waterbirthmama |
My kids are 12,9, 3 and 10 weeks |
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11:51:25 |
Waterbirthmama |
I had a HBAC though and it was so much easier. I wish ai
had know about waterbirth with the first 2 |
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11:51:31 |
ncsujen |
nursing a 9-month-old while pregnant and it sucks
completely. |
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11:51:43 |
Waterbirthmama |
It can be a challenge |
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11:52:04 |
Waterbirthmama |
I want more babies but DH says no |
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11:52:26 |
cassandrakfreaq |
but is it becuase of soreness or lack of supply......I
had thrush for 6 weeks without even knowing at so i can
dela with pain |
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11:52:35 |
alphapythia |
water- i had a planned homebirth that didnt work out |
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11:52:35 |
mwalton |
heh my DH is already talking about a second one and our
first is only 7 weeks (granted it took several years of
INF treatments and finally just an act of God to get
this one..but still!) |
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11:52:44 |
alphapythia |
but im still all for it for other people :) |
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11:52:53 |
ncsujen |
the soreness is not that bad, they are more sensitive
than usual but only really *hurts* every couple of
weeks, for a few days |
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11:53:10 |
ncsujen |
but lack of supply is killing me. I thought it didn't
kick in for a few months but around 4 weeks I basically
dried up completely. |
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11:53:23 |
cassandrakfreaq |
how far along are you now? |
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11:53:24 |
ncsujen |
Had a hard couple of weeks. now I take every milk
booster I can get my hands on and pump all the time |
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11:53:30 |
ncsujen |
about 9 weeks. |
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11:53:59 |
cassandrakfreaq |
so you have no milk at all? |
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11:54:10 |
ncsujen |
I have enough to nurse him, since he is also having some
solids |
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11:54:36 |
ncsujen |
but for a few weeks he did nothing but scream and nurse
all the time. it was hard to even keep him latched
because nothing was coming out. just screaming |
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11:54:38 |
ncsujen |
no sleep. |
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11:54:46 |
mwalton |
ooh there's a good argument to back dh down..especially
since i had to struggle so hard to get the supply i have |
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11:55:28 |
ncsujen |
well I don't think everyone has the same degree of
difficulty |
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11:55:30 |
alphapythia |
i must admit- i intored solids a little early myslef in
the hopes of getting rid of/cutting down on the formula |
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11:55:38 |
ncsujen |
but if we had been trying and i knew how hard it was i
would have waited longer. |
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11:55:38 |
serendipitylove |
ive been doing so much for supply my poor boobies are
huge |
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11:55:51 |
cassandrakfreaq |
see i was gonna wait and introduce solids at 9 months
but since we wanna get pregnant I was thinking more
along the lines of 7 months so he would get used to
them...he can sit up without help and his tounge thrust
is pretty much gone....he doesn't have pin |
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11:56:13 |
ncsujen |
I take the more milk plus tincture, nursing mom's tea,
brewers' yeast, oatmeal, tons of water. no prescripts. |
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11:56:47 |
serendipitylove |
I'm preggo so I dont do a lot of things most can do but
more milk 2, water water water, pumping pumping pumping |
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11:57:06 |
mwalton |
i just got off the Reglan (and so far the supply is
holding!) plus oatmeal, mmt (when I can choke it down),
and a nursing supplement that has goat's rue, fennugeek,
and blessed thistle in it |
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11:57:11 |
ncsujen |
biggest worry really is that I'm pumping for the supply
benefits, I dont actually get much (maybe .25 oz) so I'm
not sure what I will do when go back to school in Aug |
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11:57:12 |
alphapythia |
does anyone know why oatmeal is supposed to increase
supply? |
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11:57:20 |
alphapythia |
i havent been able to find any research on it? |
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11:57:38 |
ncsujen |
dunno but it definitely worked before i got pregnant.
now I don't see as much of a difference |
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11:57:42 |
serendipitylove |
I actually do pretty well with pumping thank god |
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11:57:57 |
serendipitylove |
so I can store milk in case times get rough |
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11:57:58 |
cassandrakfreaq |
oatmeal never really worked for me...y.east worked way
better |
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11:58:01 |
alphapythia |
ncs- yeah but youll pump more when you are pumping away
from baby |
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11:58:10 |
mwalton |
pumping is getting better now..i got 2.5 oz yesterday
and was ecstatic |
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11:58:38 |
serendipitylove |
how long do you pump to get that? |
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11:58:46 |
ncsujen |
hope so! just worried about getting some to leave him
before I leave that first day. lol |
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11:59:04 |
ncsujen |
about 30 mins each side |
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11:59:10 |
ncsujen |
2-3x day |
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11:59:20 |
serendipitylove |
wow. |
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11:59:33 |
serendipitylove |
what kind of pump do yo uhave? |
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12:00:02 |
ncsujen |
I have an Isis.. I was looking at getting an electric
pump but we're having some money issues recently |
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12:00:08 |
ncsujen |
maybe still swing it. we'll see |
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12:00:25 |
mwalton |
serendipity: i pumped for 30 min with a medela PIS |
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12:00:33 |
serendipitylove |
I have a PIS |
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12:00:35 |
ncsujen |
and part of the reason i get so little is also because
he's eating alll day long. |
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12:01:05 |
serendipitylove |
I've gotten my supply up so hight that I could feed a
small country |
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12:01:23 |
serendipitylove |
b/c I'm so scared of not having any milk in the middle
of my pregnancy |
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12:01:49 |
ncsujen |
it's good you're taking precautions, I would have if I
had known it was going to happen |
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12:01:52 |
serendipitylove |
butI get about 20oz, but I don't work or go to school so
I have a lot of time |
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12:02:07 |
Host_housepoet |
ok laFEEL FREE TO STAY HERE AND KEEP TALKING LADIES |
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12:02:11 |
Host_housepoet |
BUT I HAVE TO OFFICALLY END THE CHAT |
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12:02:12 |
mwalton |
welp..little guy calls..nice talking to you all take
care! and i'll check out the information on organizing a
nurse in |
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12:02:34 |
Host_housepoet |
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