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11:00:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
OFFICIAL START OF THE BREASTFEEDINGISNORMAL.ORG CHAT!
WELCOME! MY NAME IS NOEL AND I AM YOUR HOSTESS TODAY!
THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED AND POSTED ON THE SUNDAY
FOLLOWING THIS CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN
POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :) |
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11:00:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of the
Breastfeedingisnormal.org chat on advocacy. I’m your
hostess with the mostess, Noel Pickett, infamously known
as the evil housepoet on livejournal. My co host partner
in crime is the lovely Arianamama, who is sweet and
charming. |
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11:00:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright ladies |
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11:01:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
how is everyone this morning |
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11:01:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
I myself am having a spectacular day as the site is down |
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11:01:12 |
acidflowers |
good good, where is eveyone?? |
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11:01:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
and that is what we were going to show you ! |
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11:01:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
arg! |
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11:01:20 |
acidflowers |
why down? |
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11:01:23 |
LEVISJULES |
good, thanks! |
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11:01:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have a IP problem |
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11:01:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
but it's being fixed as we speak |
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11:01:35 |
conchispa |
that sucks :( |
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11:01:36 |
acidflowers |
double arg |
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11:01:49 |
MOD_ariana |
What a birthday surprise for you Host_Housepoet :( |
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11:02:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know huh. |
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11:02:14 |
MOD_ariana |
Everyone knows, right that today is Housepoet's
birthday, right? |
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11:02:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
well Bean is on the case and fixing it |
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11:02:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
shhh |
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11:02:28 |
conchispa |
happy b-day! |
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11:02:35 |
acidflowers |
happy bday! |
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11:02:43 |
acidflowers |
and arianamama's was just the other day wasn't it? |
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11:02:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
yesterday! |
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11:02:50 |
acidflowers |
happy bday to you too |
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11:03:13 |
MOD_ariana |
awww, thank you acidflowers |
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11:03:18 |
LEVISJULES |
Happy Birthday!!! |
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11:03:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
we're old. |
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11:03:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana and I .:) |
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11:03:40 |
conchispa |
ah shush |
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11:03:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe |
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11:03:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
well ladies. |
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11:04:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
I can show you the site on the other server. This is
going to be moved over to the acutal site in a little
while |
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11:04:29 |
ethanbmommy |
Hi everyone! |
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11:04:38 |
acidflowers |
let's see |
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11:04:50 |
acidflowers |
hi ethanbmommy |
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11:05:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok so here we go ladies |
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11:05:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
here is the site |
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11:05:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://bfin.taurus.internal.org/ |
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11:05:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
again, it's on a different server for now |
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11:05:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
but the whole thing, content and all will be moved to
our domain name today |
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11:05:42 |
mwalton |
that's fantastic! congratulations! |
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11:05:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
click around, check it out |
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11:05:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:05:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you |
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11:06:05 |
conchispa |
looks great. it was working fine a day or two ago |
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11:06:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
what we need from people, is if you see a empty link
that says coming soon |
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11:06:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
we NEED articles written still for those subjects |
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11:06:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes it was, but we're doing some backend stuff that
caused it to go down again |
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11:06:34 |
acidflowers |
WOW, that looks great |
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11:07:14 |
ethanbmommy |
I volunteer to write up something on the Nestle boycott,
if that's needed |
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11:07:18 |
LEVISJULES |
It's looking great |
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11:07:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think we have the boycot covered |
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11:07:39 |
talula_fairie |
great job! |
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11:07:44 |
acidflowers |
where is the articles section? |
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11:07:55 |
talula_fairie |
we should boycott the boppy and liz launge and baby talk
magazine now too |
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11:07:57 |
talula_fairie |
feh |
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11:07:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://bfin.taurus.internal.org/Activism/BoycottNestle |
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11:08:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
good topic TF |
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11:08:14 |
MOD_ariana |
talula_fairie You should write up a little article about
it! |
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11:08:19 |
mwalton |
what happened with boppy? |
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11:08:20 |
talula_fairie |
I'm so mad about that! |
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11:08:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
That's exactly what we would like to do |
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11:08:29 |
talula_fairie |
ok, I'll write one |
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11:08:30 |
Hisrisingstar |
i will write the article about the WHO code violations |
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11:08:38 |
MOD_ariana |
talula_fairie YAY! |
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11:08:45 |
MOD_ariana |
Hisrisingstar That's wonderful! |
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11:08:46 |
Hisrisingstar |
http://www.badcorp.com/company.cfm?caID=20886000 ,/. |
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11:09:01 |
Hisrisingstar |
.that has a bunch of the WHO violations by nestle |
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11:09:06 |
acidflowers |
doesn’t |
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11:09:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
right |
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11:09:12 |
acidflowers |
why does doesn't look like that? |
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11:09:12 |
talula_fairie |
they are supporting this campeign, I can't rmember what
it's called, but it's all about making moms feel good
aobut bottlefeeding OR breastfeeding |
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11:09:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
but without a govt. offical to enforce the code it
doesn't matter |
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11:09:25 |
talula_fairie |
no coincidence they are launching it during world
breastfeeding week |
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11:09:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
look like what? |
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11:09:31 |
acidflowers |
doesn’t |
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11:09:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
best for mom/best for baby"" |
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11:09:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh I know |
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11:09:40 |
talula_fairie |
yea that |
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11:09:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
again, just a little trouble with the server |
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11:09:47 |
acidflowers |
ok |
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11:09:55 |
mwalton |
sheesh..hadn't heard about that..that stinks..thanks for
letting me know |
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11:10:13 |
Hisrisingstar |
it should be the opposie, whats best for baby is best
for mom my child comes first |
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11:10:21 |
cali4niachef |
any advice for a mom-to-be who is planning to bf? i am
due in about 4wks, or whenever baby sweetie decides to
come. |
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11:10:29 |
talula_fairie |
http://www.livejournal.com/community/boob_nazis/1396396.html |
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11:10:44 |
Hisrisingstar |
throw out all formula they give you |
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11:10:46 |
cali4niachef |
are you all apart of LJ? |
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11:10:46 |
talula_fairie |
http://www.livejournal.com/community/boob_nazis/1397579.html |
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11:10:47 |
ethanbmommy |
Hi cali, I'm due 8/30 myself |
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11:10:48 |
cali4niachef |
i have |
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11:10:48 |
conchispa |
my boppy is sitting in the trunk of the car. i haven't
used it for don't know how long. thank goodness for my
breastfriend |
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11:10:53 |
mwalton |
amen..but i think that's one of the biggest problems if
not the biggest in our society right now is that people
try to schedule babies into their own lives..fit them in
somewhere rather than doing what's best for them... |
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11:10:53 |
talula_fairie |
it's public |
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11:10:54 |
Hisrisingstar |
dont have it in the house as temptation |
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11:11:02 |
cali4niachef |
i give that crap away to those i know who use formula |
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11:11:06 |
talula_fairie |
i was just saying that the other day, mwalton |
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11:11:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok you can refresh it and it's fixed |
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11:11:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think a few of us met through LJ |
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11:11:32 |
MOD_ariana |
cali4niachef
http://www.kellymom.com/bf/start/prepare/bf-preparation.html
-- This is a great article on preparing to BF |
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11:11:34 |
Hisrisingstar |
the boppy is in on this???? |
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11:11:35 |
cali4niachef |
i've seen you housepoet on LJ |
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11:11:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is where we do a lot of promotion for
Breastfeedingisnormal |
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11:11:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think I recognize your name as well |
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11:11:49 |
cali4niachef |
and talula |
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11:11:51 |
cali4niachef |
some where |
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11:11:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
most people in here are from LJ |
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11:12:14 |
katieshy |
cali4niachef- have you joined boobie_bootcamp? That's a
great place for info. |
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11:12:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
adopt a mom is another great community as well |
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11:12:31 |
cali4niachef |
no i have joined the BF community |
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11:12:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can get one to one mother support on breastfeeding |
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11:12:37 |
talula_fairie |
I'm all over the net! |
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11:12:41 |
talula_fairie |
MDC, LJ |
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11:12:42 |
ethanbmommy |
Hi ariana (adopt=a=mom) |
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11:12:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
breastfeeding is a good community as well |
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11:12:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
ariana and I are the mods in there |
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11:13:07 |
MOD_ariana |
Hi |
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11:13:10 |
talula_fairie |
Hisrisingstar yep, the bobby is in on it :( |
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11:13:13 |
cali4niachef |
how is boobie bootcamp different than the bf community? |
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11:13:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
SO YOU GUYS. |
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11:13:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
OH |
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11:13:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
WELL ... |
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11:13:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
bootcamp is a bit more militant |
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11:13:28 |
cali4niachef |
or the boob nazi com? |
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11:13:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
about breastfeeding than the breastfeeding community is |
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11:13:45 |
conchispa |
bootcamp is a little more kick-ass, if you will. great
place if you are tempted to give up because they won't
let you :) |
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11:13:49 |
ethanbmommy |
bootcamp's great for people planning to do extended BF |
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11:13:58 |
cali4niachef |
ok |
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11:13:59 |
talula_fairie |
yea, that's why I joined bootcamp |
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11:14:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's a place for women who are a bit more set in their
feelings and ways about breastfeeding. |
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11:14:05 |
talula_fairie |
I didn't want to give up, EVER |
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11:14:12 |
cali4niachef |
brb |
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11:14:13 |
katieshy |
and bootcamp is a place for new BFing moms who don't
want to quit to get advice. |
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11:14:22 |
Hisrisingstar |
i just got ameda purely yours breastpump, how does
everyone else like them? i dont think it has enough
suction on the highest level |
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11:14:25 |
conchispa |
me neither. tempted, yes, but never wanted to. |
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11:14:34 |
talula_fairie |
Yea, I knew I wouldn't get people sugesting supplements |
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11:14:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
OK |
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11:14:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
HI |
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11:14:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
HELLO THERE. :) |
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11:14:47 |
katieshy |
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII |
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11:14:52 |
Hisrisingstar |
but im a sahm so its not a big deal, i rarely pump |
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11:14:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
So you guys, if you see anything on the site that needs
fixing |
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11:14:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
like spelling |
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11:14:56 |
ethanbmommy |
there are enough people suggestion formula IRL |
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11:14:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
grammar |
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11:14:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
anything like that |
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11:15:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
please please email us |
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11:15:11 |
conchispa |
when the going got tough, the last thing i needed was at
least you tried, good job". i needed to hear "keep it
up no matter what"" |
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11:15:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
its' hard with a site with that much content to catch
everything |
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11:15:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
we're just trying to get it up |
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11:15:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
and make it work |
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11:15:30 |
ethanbmommy |
housepoet it's looking so great |
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11:15:32 |
mwalton |
not that I've noticed so far..my dh is excellent when it
comes to spotting grammatical errors..when he gets
home..if he's finished being an idiot..i'll have him
look at it ;) |
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11:15:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
also please send us links to bfing friendly sites for
banner trade |
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11:15:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
that would be great mwaltoN! |
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11:15:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you! |
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11:16:04 |
MOD_ariana |
If you have a business that is BF friendly, send us the
link. |
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11:16:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes |
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11:16:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
Bean is working on the balck list still as well |
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11:16:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's not up becuase of the server issues we're having |
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11:16:54 |
ethanbmommy |
my husband has been talking to his boss about offering
discounts to all BF/NIP moms in the restaurant this week
in honor of World BF week :) |
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11:17:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
but once it's up you can submit your entires through a
web for |
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11:17:02 |
xxveigaxx |
Where is the site hosted |
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11:17:03 |
mwalton |
are you going to put all the banners back up too? those
were fantastic i thought |
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11:17:14 |
ethanbmommy |
anyone have a recommendation on a FL ped? |
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11:17:25 |
ethanbmommy |
I'm in Tampa but willing to travel |
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11:17:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
currently the site is hosted with Dreamhost |
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11:17:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
all my sites are through there |
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11:17:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT |
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11:17:52 |
ethanbmommy |
housepoet - i loved the banners and wanted to know if I
can get some of those as t-shirts? |
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11:17:55 |
Hisrisingstar |
i have a reccomeddation in palm beach |
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11:17:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
with the content mgr program that bean made |
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11:17:56 |
mwalton |
ethanbmommy: unless you are willing to travel to UT
fraid I can't help! |
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11:18:02 |
Hisrisingstar |
but thats about 4 hours away |
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11:18:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
she needs to configure certain areas, so its on her
server for now |
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11:18:20 |
xxveigaxx |
Did she write the CMS herself? |
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11:18:25 |
ethanbmommy |
lol mwalton - I have in-laws in palm beach and I don't
plan on doing well-baby visits... what's the dr's name? |
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11:18:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes |
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11:18:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
her and her husband |
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11:18:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
she's incredibly smart |
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11:18:34 |
xxveigaxx |
Yeah I'm not a huge dreamhost fan myself. |
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11:18:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
its almost like LJ when you post via the web. |
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11:18:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
you're not? |
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11:18:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
OH NO |
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11:18:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
I love dreamhost |
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11:18:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
LOVE IT. |
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11:19:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
all my friends work there ;) |
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11:19:01 |
ethanbmommy |
i really like domain direct, but I haven't used
dreamhost so I can't compare |
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11:19:04 |
uzra_hashmi@rediff |
hi everybody. Good Morning |
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11:19:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
so I'm a little partial |
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11:19:09 |
ethanbmommy |
morning uzra |
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11:19:09 |
xxveigaxx |
Yeah right now I'm hosted by a friend |
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11:19:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
morning |
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11:19:19 |
acidflowers |
about well-baby visits..can you be forced to go to
those? |
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11:19:22 |
xxveigaxx |
so I'm probably a bit partial too. |
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11:19:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
right, so again, please check out the site |
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11:19:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
and we can make changes and whatnot |
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11:19:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
as for the shirt question |
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11:19:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
YES |
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11:19:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
I will make more designs for the cafe press store |
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11:19:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
that you will be able to buy |
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11:20:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
and remember we don't make any money on the shirts at
the cafe press store |
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11:20:06 |
ethanbmommy |
acidflowers - I don't see how, but I guess it depends on
the dr? I was raised w/NO medical care legally just 20
years ago... |
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11:20:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
I keep the mark up at 1% |
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11:20:13 |
dara |
is this the breastfeeding advocacy chat? |
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11:20:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes |
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11:20:26 |
ethanbmommy |
Awesome - I really wanted that not just for selling cars
or beer anymore" one" |
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11:20:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
so you all get the shirts at cost if you wnat one |
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11:20:28 |
katieshy |
how about the Jesus Was Breastfed" one, HP? I loved
that idea. :D" |
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11:20:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
I love that one |
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11:20:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
I can make one of those as well. |
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11:20:39 |
ethanbmommy |
oh man, that's hysterical |
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11:20:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
though there is this part of me that almost feels bad
about using my Lord Savior to promote breastfeeding. |
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11:20:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
but tha'ts my issue ;) |
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11:21:02 |
acidflowers |
well, i mean, i'm legally required to vax unless i can
get a medical or religious exemption which i'm looking
into now |
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11:21:29 |
ethanbmommy |
I think my Lord Savior *designed* BF, so why not use him
as a big advocate? or maybe what would mary do" lol,
but I wouldn't want to offend any catholics, etc." |
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11:21:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
so if you look around at the site and see something
missing |
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11:21:35 |
katieshy |
well, why not? Wouldn't he promote it? |
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11:21:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
wirte an article |
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11:21:41 |
mwalton |
oh I'd LOVE a Jesus was breastfed shirt..might actually
make a difference here in UT |
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11:22:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wouldn't want to be one of the religous zelots who use
their faith to push their own issues |
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11:22:12 |
ethanbmommy |
acidflowers - email me or contact me on my lj
(tiny_tinkerbell) and I'll get back to you. just tell
me what state you live in. the org i work for is all
about avoiding vax and we have copies of the exemption
forms for most states |
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11:22:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
and yes our Lord did create us perfectly and I can't
understand why a woman would ever not use her breasts
for the right reasons |
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11:22:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
but anyway |
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11:22:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
*steps off faith soap box |
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11:22:58 |
acidflowers |
oh that's awesome, thank you |
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11:23:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
my friend crystal is singing to me right now |
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11:23:13 |
mwalton |
housepoet:ok i scrolled back through and i must be
missing it..but you are going to put the web banners
back up right? |
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11:23:16 |
ethanbmommy |
sure thing acidflowers :D |
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11:23:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
and she's in here |
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11:23:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
CRYSTAL |
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11:23:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
THANK YOU |
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11:23:33 |
katieshy |
yeah, I see where you're coming from. It might help
some churces see that their conservative" outlook is
misplaced..." |
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11:23:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh speaking of churches |
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11:23:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
I was looking at bfing laws yesterday |
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11:24:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
bc we have an area on the site where you can download
the law and print it to tape up places and hand out |
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11:24:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
but anyway |
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11:24:13 |
CrystalDOF |
your welcome... bwahaha i rock |
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11:24:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
in Illiniois? I think |
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11:24:38 |
ethanbmommy |
O |
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11:24:55 |
Hisrisingstar |
on the site. some letters are showing up as characters
(like wingdings) im not sure why though |
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11:25:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes we're working on that |
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11:25:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
but anyway |
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11:25:21 |
ethanbmommy |
I'm real lucky - my church doesn't have a lot for
mommies yet, b/c everyone *was* older, but now we have
12 new moms who were preg this summer (and I'm the only
one who hasn't given birth yet!) so they gave us the
sound booth for BF |
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11:25:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
a woman's right to bf in public is protected by law in
this state |
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11:25:31 |
conchispa |
on a much smaller level, i was thinking of writing a
letter to the president of my company thanking my bosses
because they have been awesomely supportive of BF and
pumping as I returned to work |
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11:25:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
but if she wanted to nurse on church property she has no
rights |
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11:25:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
you should |
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11:25:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
also send us the name of your boss and company as well |
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11:26:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
we would add them to the site under bfing friendly work
places |
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11:26:07 |
mwalton |
what a strange exception...and they should definately
close that loophole |
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11:26:10 |
ethanbmommy |
that'd be awesome conchispa. Maybe we could also turn
it into a form-letter for other BF/working pumpers could
fill in to print out and give to their bosses? |
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11:26:12 |
conchispa |
will do that |
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11:26:34 |
conchispa |
hmm, good idea. i'll see what i can come up with. |
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11:26:38 |
katieshy |
really? Why's the church not public?"" |
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11:26:42 |
ethanbmommy |
mwalton - I think I can see the logic of it, even if I
don't agree - once the govt. is allowed inside church,
things get mucky |
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11:26:46 |
mwalton |
i'm lucky, hubby is the bishop of our ward (equivalent I
guess of a pastor) and so people don't usually give me
grief..dirty looks? sure..but not grief |
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11:26:48 |
katieshy |
and BFing in a soundbooth? |
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11:26:52 |
flutterby77 |
you would think a church would be the most open place to
nurse |
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11:26:59 |
katieshy |
better than the bothroom I guess... |
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11:27:01 |
conchispa |
in my letter i was also going to include a bit about
them just being super about my transition back to work
and allowing me to tend to my mommy needs. |
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11:27:17 |
ethanbmommy |
it's got a double-sided glass window so we can look out
and hear the proceedings, but no one can see us |
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11:27:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have that at mu church as well. |
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11:27:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
haven't used it since A is a big boy and hangs out in
the nursery with the other kiddos |
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11:27:44 |
katieshy |
that's what I have a problem with. The hiding away
thing. It's just humiliating. |
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11:27:48 |
ethanbmommy |
Alomst anything is better than the bathroom |
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11:28:25 |
ethanbmommy |
oh, I just was thinking that it was really nice for
women who have to combat shyness. personally, i plan on
feeding my son whenever/wherever he is hungry, but i'm
not too shy |
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11:28:25 |
katieshy |
do the moms who bottle feed have to go in there too? |
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11:28:31 |
mwalton |
we have a really nice mother's lounge..i use it to
change Connor and if he's just screaming his little
lungs out |
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11:28:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
good opint Katie |
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11:28:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
point even |
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11:28:58 |
ethanbmommy |
good point |
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11:29:09 |
acidflowers |
alright, i can't stay, i have to do a couple things
before the baby wakes up and i still need to find a
sitter |
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11:29:14 |
katieshy |
lol. brb, hungry toddler. |
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11:29:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
they probably would have to go in there tho, as it is a
matter of 'food' being eaten in the sactuary. |
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11:29:25 |
ethanbmommy |
bye acidflowers, comment in my journal and i'll send you
vax exemption info |
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11:29:26 |
acidflowers |
the site looks great noel, and happy birthday noel and
ariana |
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11:29:34 |
acidflowers |
i did already :) |
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11:29:40 |
acidflowers |
i left you my email address |
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11:29:55 |
ethanbmommy |
yeah, i think the only eating" allowed in the sanctuary
is the sacrament (communion)" |
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11:29:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
ah here is the law |
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11:29:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
ILLINOIS |
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11:30:04 |
acidflowers |
have a great day ladies |
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11:30:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
Section 10. Breastfeeding Location. A mother may
breastfeed her baby in any location, public or private,
where the mother is otherwise authorized to be,
irrespective of whether the nipple of the mother's
breast is uncovered during or incidental to the
breastfeeding; however, a mother considering whether to
breastfeed her baby in a place of worship shall comport
her behavior with the norms appropriatein that place of
worship."" |
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11:30:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you! |
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11:30:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
this link is great to actually sit down and read every
law |
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11:30:42 |
mwalton |
you too good luck finding a sitter! |
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11:30:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
which I did yesterday |
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11:30:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/summary.html |
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11:30:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
take a look |
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11:30:51 |
talula_fairie |
that;s interesting |
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11:30:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
geographically |
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11:30:57 |
talula_fairie |
so you can't bf in church if they dohn't allow it there |
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11:31:02 |
talula_fairie |
haha at my church I bf jane |
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11:31:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's interesting what laws are where |
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11:31:09 |
talula_fairie |
but they are liberal unitarians :O |
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11:31:11 |
uzra_hashmi@rediff |
obviously too much interference by the state |
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11:31:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
some states, you can sue someone for violating your
rights |
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11:31:29 |
conchispa |
is ca one of those states? |
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11:31:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
but it's not a civil rights issue, it's a segregation
issue |
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11:31:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
I WISH |
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11:31:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
but no |
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11:31:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
what we hope to accomplish with this site |
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11:31:54 |
conchispa |
on well :( |
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11:32:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
is to raise awareness about laws to protect us and our
children |
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11:32:09 |
ethanbmommy |
(small cheer for FL laws) |
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11:32:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
we want to get a law in EVERY state |
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11:32:19 |
mwalton |
wow..as weird as people are here about BF at least the
law is decent..they even consider bf in custody
arrangements |
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11:32:22 |
conchispa |
although i haven't had any bad NIP experiences yet |
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11:32:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
to protect a mothers right to BF in public |
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11:32:38 |
katieshy |
that's a great goal. |
|
11:32:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes some states do that as well. |
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11:32:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
in every state |
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11:32:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
and some sort of legislation across the country |
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11:33:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
so that it blankets every state |
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11:33:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
the only way that this will happen is if we act |
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11:33:09 |
katieshy |
my sister's going through a divorce right now, and her
lawyer told her |
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11:33:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
and act together and strong. |
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11:33:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have to vote in the right people |
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11:33:31 |
katieshy |
the courts will tell her to wean b/c she doesn't want dh
to take her ds overnight. |
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11:33:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's why on the site we have an area where you can
enter your 9 dig zip code and find out the govt. reps
for your area |
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11:33:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can look at their voting stats |
|
11:33:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
how they vote, when they vote, what they are voting for |
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11:34:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
and then let your voice be heard with your vote |
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11:34:03 |
katieshy |
oh, I need to look at that! |
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11:34:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
sending |
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11:34:07 |
uzra_hashmi@rediff |
too much interference with personal life. Isn't it? |
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11:34:08 |
mwalton |
housepoet: great resource! i'm always amazed at how
many people don't know who represents them |
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11:34:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
letters to your congress person to demand change in the
law |
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11:34:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
to create laws |
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11:34:28 |
katieshy |
is that the vote-smart link? |
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11:34:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's a outside site, we jst have a link to it |
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11:34:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
YES THAT'S IT |
|
11:34:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
brb angry toddler |
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11:34:39 |
katieshy |
cool |
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11:34:41 |
ethanbmommy |
The courts won't factor BF into custody arrangements?
That's terrible |
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11:34:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana? |
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11:34:46 |
MOD_ariana |
ok |
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11:34:55 |
katieshy |
that's what the lawyer said |
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11:35:01 |
katieshy |
I guess it's b/c he's over 6 mos. |
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11:35:20 |
katieshy |
he's 17 mos. But has NEVER been away from mama
overnight and doesn't eat solids well at all. |
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11:35:24 |
MOD_ariana |
katieshy let the dad have one night with a kiddo who
doesn't have his nursies see how he does! |
|
11:35:39 |
katieshy |
his mom will take care of the baby. |
|
11:35:41 |
MOD_ariana |
We're still trying to get political captains in place |
|
11:35:42 |
ethanbmommy |
I spent a night in jail once when I was 18 (long story)
but I remember another woman being taken out to go see
her baby, because she was BFing and FL *really* protects
that |
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11:36:06 |
MOD_ariana |
We need people who want to head up researching the
politics in their state |
|
11:36:08 |
ethanbmommy |
so, even incarcerated women have a right to BF here |
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11:36:14 |
MOD_ariana |
ethanbmommy That's so cool |
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11:36:34 |
ethanbmommy |
ariana - yeah, a whole new reason to love this place
(and usually I hate FL laws, lol) |
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11:36:37 |
lifeisstatic |
That makes me want to move to Fl, Az has crappy laws |
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11:36:41 |
MOD_ariana |
If you think you'd want to head up politics in your
state email info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:36:56 |
MOD_ariana |
It's not just about getting the laws in place, |
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11:37:16 |
MOD_ariana |
it's researching the votes where possible and finding
out who voted no on laws already in place. |
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11:37:33 |
MOD_ariana |
Well why would a BF woman vote for a politician who
voted *against* a NIP law! |
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11:38:01 |
MOD_ariana |
So if you're at all interested in helping out in your
state contact us at that email |
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11:38:45 |
katieshy |
what category would the NIP laws be under? |
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11:38:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
ethanbmommy - New york has a law to protect inmates with
babies as well
http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/summary.html#NY |
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11:39:05 |
ethanbmommy |
Yeah, I know NY has a lot of good BF protection laws as
well |
|
11:39:09 |
katieshy |
family and children issues? |
|
11:39:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
like the Senator in Wyoming |
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11:39:40 |
mwalton |
well i might just have to ..because i don't know of
anyone else that's actually in my state |
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11:39:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
Barbara Cubin |
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11:39:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://bfin.taurus.internal.org/Activism/WyomingLetter |
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11:40:05 |
conchispa |
well, i gotta run to work, good chatting with you, see
ya later |
|
11:40:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
she sent a letter to the members of congress calling for
a lift on the WHO code |
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11:40:18 |
alphapythia |
(hi everyone, sorry im late) |
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11:40:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
hi alphy |
|
11:40:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
any more work on the breastfeeding baby shower? |
|
11:40:38 |
Hisrisingstar |
im trying to find out how each person in my state voted
on breastfeeding laws and I cant seem to find it |
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11:40:45 |
MOD_ariana |
Sorry I lost my connections for a minute there |
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11:40:55 |
MOD_ariana |
Hisrisingstar what state are you in? |
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11:40:55 |
mwalton |
on a national level shouldn't you be able to search
thomas? |
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11:40:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
did you go here? |
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11:40:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.vote-smart.org/ |
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11:41:18 |
cali4niachef |
ok back |
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11:41:20 |
MOD_ariana |
I have a few websites that can help |
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11:41:28 |
cali4niachef |
how do i find out about breastfeeding laws in my state? |
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11:41:35 |
Hisrisingstar |
yep, i went there,a nd I can see their voting record |
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11:41:40 |
Hisrisingstar |
but cant find anything about breastfeeding |
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11:41:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.vote-smart.org/ |
|
11:41:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
go there |
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11:41:45 |
katieshy |
me either hisrisingstar |
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11:41:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
enter your 9 digit zip |
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11:41:53 |
Hisrisingstar |
i did |
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11:41:55 |
cali4niachef |
vote-smart.org? |
|
11:41:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
and you can see all your reps |
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11:41:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes |
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11:42:00 |
MOD_ariana |
vote smart doesn't have much on voting records |
|
11:42:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
then go to their sites |
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11:42:05 |
alphapythia |
well i posted some stuff on the boards about it, but
havent seen many replies |
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11:42:10 |
Hisrisingstar |
and I see my reps voting records on abortion and
military and war and stuff |
|
11:42:15 |
Hisrisingstar |
but nothing about breastfeeding |
|
11:42:15 |
katieshy |
same here |
|
11:42:22 |
alphapythia |
my latest thoughts are on suing dr's who needlessly
sabotauge bfing with bad advice |
|
11:42:26 |
cali4niachef |
what website do i go to to find out about bf laws? |
|
11:42:28 |
katieshy |
marriage amendment.. |
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11:42:28 |
MOD_ariana |
Yeah, if anyone is interested I can give you some other
sites to help you out |
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11:42:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/summary.html |
|
11:42:41 |
cali4niachef |
thanks |
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11:43:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wondered about suing hospitals who give babies formula
without consent |
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11:43:06 |
mwalton |
my biggest saboteurs were the nurses in the NICU |
|
11:43:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana and I did some research but didn't find much on
it |
|
11:43:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
right. |
|
11:43:21 |
katieshy |
woah, Az doesn't have BFIng laws? |
|
11:43:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
something else what we need to do |
|
11:43:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
is positive work |
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11:43:44 |
cali4niachef |
DELAWARE In 1997, Delaware enacted a law that clarifies
a mother’s right to breastfeed in any location of public
accommodation that she is permitted to be. |
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11:43:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
encouraging our local hospitals to become baby friendly |
|
11:43:55 |
alphapythia |
sadly i somethimes think suing is going to be the only
real way to get results |
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11:43:57 |
cali4niachef |
so there aren't any restrictions? |
|
11:44:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
no you can breastfeed when ever and where ever you want |
|
11:44:11 |
MOD_ariana |
katieshy are you on LJ? |
|
11:44:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
as long as you have a right to be there |
|
11:44:15 |
mwalton |
beyond if you are trespassing somewhere? apparently not
:) |
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11:44:18 |
cali4niachef |
awesome |
|
11:44:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:44:27 |
cali4niachef |
i have a question |
|
11:44:28 |
alphapythia |
after all, money talks, and we dont have the money to
compete with formula co ads, but if drs and hos were
afraid of *loosing* mmoney, it wouldwork just as well |
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11:44:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
we are going to have the law avaliable for download off
the site in a PDF format |
|
11:44:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
so you can take your state |
|
11:44:38 |
ethanbmommy |
what about hospitals who give formula after being
specifically asked not to? i agree - suing should be
available |
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11:44:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
print out a few copies |
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11:44:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
and hand them out to people |
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11:44:44 |
katieshy |
yes, ariana, I am |
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11:44:50 |
cali4niachef |
i am going to get a native baby carrier sling, have any
of you used it while bf? was it easy to use bf in? |
|
11:44:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
nuring moms if you see them |
|
11:44:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
tack them up in restrooms |
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11:44:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
thihngs like that |
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11:45:11 |
anayasmom |
I used it. Its pretty easy |
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11:45:11 |
mwalton |
excellent! i'd be happy to do that |
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11:45:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
anayasmom! |
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11:45:22 |
ethanbmommy |
ALPHAPYTHIA - and then we could use that money to battle
the formula cos? |
|
11:45:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
so nice to see you in here |
|
11:45:24 |
anayasmom |
hi |
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11:45:33 |
anayasmom |
thanks |
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11:46:02 |
alphapythia |
i want a new bfing is normal banner that says, so let me
get this right, you want me to feed my baby in a
bathroom, because your mind is so dirty you've forgotten
whatbreats are *for?*" |
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11:46:16 |
mwalton |
heh love it |
|
11:46:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe |
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11:46:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's a greatone |
|
11:46:34 |
MOD_ariana |
There's 2 billion banners that need to be made! |
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11:46:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
email that to me |
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11:46:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
I love making banners |
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11:46:48 |
alphapythia |
ethanmom- well i would certainly donate myu results if i
sued someone, after of courase i paid for milk bank milk
for my kid, and that would obviously be the basis of a
cost lawsuit |
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11:46:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's a great way to get the word out there |
|
11:46:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
|
11:47:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh that reminds me |
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11:47:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
Milk drives |
|
11:47:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
I keep wondering if that is even a possibility |
|
11:47:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
Juice brought up that subject |
|
11:48:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
has anyone donated before? |
|
11:48:10 |
ethanbmommy |
I know the milk banks only like to accept donations of
100 oz. or more b/c of cool shipping costs... |
|
11:48:11 |
Hisrisingstar |
i want to but I cant find a milk bank in my area! |
|
11:48:16 |
MOD_ariana |
I think most milk banks have a 100oz. minimum from each
woman |
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11:48:18 |
mwalton |
welp connor is done nursing..got to go take care all |
|
11:48:23 |
ethanbmommy |
Hisrisingstar - there are only 4 nationwide |
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11:48:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.hmbana.org/ |
|
11:48:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
no thats not true |
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11:48:36 |
Hisrisingstar |
wow, i would love to donate, but I have NO WHERE NEAR
100 ozs |
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11:49:01 |
alphapythia |
100oz- gads... i cant even imagine- course, i have
serious supply issues, so im not really a donation
candidate |
|
11:49:04 |
MOD_ariana |
I think there are more milk banks about to pop up |
|
11:49:06 |
ethanbmommy |
yeah, so I'm wondering if there's a way multiple BF moms
in an area could get together their supplies and maybe
then donate? I'm really hoping to do that after ethan
is born |
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11:49:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
there are 12 |
|
11:49:15 |
ethanbmommy |
ariana - that'd be so awesome |
|
11:49:20 |
ethanbmommy |
housepoet - thanks for correcting |
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11:49:25 |
alphapythia |
then again i know some moms who were pumping 9 oz at a
time the first few weeks, thats when we need to pounce
them :) |
|
11:49:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
check out that link |
|
11:49:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
well that's the thing. I wonder if we can get people
together to make 100 ounces |
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11:49:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
if they would accept something like that |
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11:49:49 |
cali4niachef |
ladies thanks for your help. hope to talk to ya again
soon. |
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11:49:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
or if you could go to the milk bank and pump for them |
|
11:49:56 |
cali4niachef |
ttyl |
|
11:49:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
bye bye! |
|
11:50:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
there are two in texas! |
|
11:50:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
there needs to be one in LA |
|
11:50:21 |
cali4niachef |
bye |
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11:50:26 |
ethanbmommy |
that'd be cool if you could just go there... I know
they are strict on not taking milk from moms on meds |
|
11:50:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder who hospitals keep banked milk? |
|
11:50:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
right |
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11:50:42 |
megwen |
Holy crap, there is a milk bank in my city and I didn't
even know. |
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11:50:52 |
