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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #9
8/10/05

15 mamas in attendance

11:00:58 Host_Housepoet Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of the Breastfeedingisnormal.org chat on advocacy. I’m your hostess with the mostess, Noel Pickett, infamously known as the housepoet on livejournal. My co host partner in crime is the lovely Arianamama, who is sweet and charming. If you have any questions, please double click on her name and that will open a small private window for you to chat with her in.
11:01:14 Host_Housepoet I have no excuse today, school is out for the summer, I am fresh off my 28th birthday celebrations AND my 22 month old fell asleep on the floor last night, and I got to go to bed and sleep alone for a WHOLE HOUR!!!!! WOW, I feel like a new person! ;)
11:01:24 Host_Housepoet Recap of last chat  LAST FORMAL CHAT http://mommychats.com/transcripts/bfactivism04.htm    Quote of the chat: breastfeed or die!
11:01:34 Host_Housepoet Mission Statement.
11:01:40 Host_Housepoet Breastfeedingisnormal.org is committed to making a positive difference in the perception of breastfeeding, to making the practice of breastfeeding normal" again in our society, and to replacing the onslaught of infant formula found in today's media with breastfeeding education and resources.  Through political advocacy, Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes governmental support and protection of breastfeeding mothers and their children.  Through education and support, Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes healthy alternatives to formula use, encourages new mothers to begin and continue breastfeeding, gives mothers the confidence to nurse their children in public, and gives society the understanding that breastfeeding is normal."
11:02:11 Hisrisingstar hey, ariana, I just got your email yesterday, I am still doing the WHO code violations, I should have it done by tomorrow!
11:02:11 Host_Housepoet Let's start off today with some Nurse IN news
11:02:24 Host_Housepoet lately we've been hearing a LOT about nurse out's being world bfing week and all
11:02:30 Host_Housepoet but it looks like we have a cause in Utah
11:02:38 Host_Housepoet Mwalton is going to chat with us about that right now!
11:02:43 Host_Housepoet mwalton - the floor is yours
11:03:04 mwalton Thank you.  There is a local store called the Quilted Bear that recently flagrantly violated UT breastfeeding laws
11:03:24 mwalton they asked a mother (who was even using a blanket even though she's not required to by law) to either nurse in the restroom or leave the store
11:03:30 mwalton She was escorted out by security!
11:03:51 mwalton More information on the incident can be found at:  http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_2919050
11:04:21 mwalton In response to that, myself, along with my friend Jennifer, who due to an appt couldn't be here today, are organizing a nurse in
11:04:39 mwalton It will be held at the offending Quilted Bear located at the Newgate Mall in Ogden this Friday at 7 PM
11:04:55 mwalton More information can be found at:  http://www.bagheraonline.net/nursein/
11:05:14 Host_Housepoet Good work mwalton!
11:05:30 Host_Housepoet Utah has a law that protect a woman's right to breastfeed her child
11:05:31 Host_Housepoet 17-15-25. Right to Breast Feed.  The County Legislative Bodies may not prohibit a woman's breast feeding in any location where she otherwise may rightfully be, irrespective of whether the breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breastfeeding.
11:06:11 Host_Housepoet There is yet another case of discrimination going on in Colorado as well
11:06:17 Host_Housepoet Ariana is going to tell us about that one
11:06:23 Host_Housepoet Ariana - the floor is yours
11:06:26 Mod_ariana There have been a couple incidents recently in Colorado.
11:06:41 Mod_ariana A mother was actually ticketed on a beach in Fort Collins http://www.colorado.gov/governor/contact.html
11:06:43 tristyn You'd think the Quilted Bear people would have learned...Utah already has had this sort of thing happen.
11:06:59 Mod_ariana The citation was eventually dismissed
11:07:13 Mod_ariana But then a woman was asked to move when sitting in the reception area of the governor's office http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3982781,00.html.
11:07:28 Mod_ariana where she was BF I should say. ;)
11:07:43 Mod_ariana I think these two incidents together show a really bad pattern
11:07:54 Mod_ariana In both cases isn't government employees
11:08:14 Mod_ariana with the second one in the actual Governor's office
11:08:21 Host_Housepoet To add, Colorado has a great NIP law as well
11:08:26 Host_Housepoet you can read about it here:
11:08:26 Host_Housepoet http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/summary.html#CO
11:08:29 Mod_ariana I think we need a letter writing campaign
11:08:39 Host_Housepoet plainly stated C.R.S.25-6-302. Breastfeeding.    A mother may breastfeed in any place she has a right to be.
11:08:46 Host_Housepoet exactly.
11:08:52 Mod_ariana I think we should write Gov. Bill Owens and ask him to make a statement about breastfeeding
11:09:01 Mod_ariana esp. since we've just had World BF Week
11:09:04 Host_Housepoet tell them as bfing mother's we won't be vacationing there.
11:09:25 Mod_ariana Honestly I think of CO as a BF friendly state becasue they have the good law and they have high rates of BF
11:09:41 Mod_ariana but wtih this kind of harrasment and discouragement it won't stay high for long!
11:09:55 Mod_ariana I need someone who is good at putting together a nicely worded letter
11:10:09 Host_Housepoet coughtristyncough
11:10:21 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:10:21 Mod_ariana to Gov. Bill Owens asking him to make a statement about BF and to make sure his employees are aware of the law
11:10:38 Host_Housepoet show up at the capital with the law in their hands
11:10:39 Host_Housepoet :)
11:10:50 Host_Housepoet which brings us to our next subject.
11:10:55 conchispa if you tell me what content should go into the letter, i can try to put it together
11:10:59 tristyn Interestingly, the contact informationfor the governor states that if you want a reply to email, you ned to include a Colorado mailing address. I wonder if that is an indicator to how receptive he'll be to letters from nonconstituents
11:11:09 Cynica what!
11:11:16 Cynica I have family in Colorado.
11:11:19 tristyn Also, I hate this keyboard. Hold on.
11:11:37 Cynica They would be happy to forward some letters from me, I am sure.
11:12:35 Mod_ariana I think wiht enough letters even from non CO residents he'd feel some pressure
11:12:36 tristyn I need to review the two incidents, and I'll certainly be writing a letter when I've done that.
11:12:50 tristyn I'll be happy to post it to LJ when I've done so
11:13:01 Mod_ariana tristyn http://www.livejournal.com/community/lactivism/135751.html?mode=reply
11:13:14 amyfaline I wonder if there is a group in CO that could be contacted that might already have an in" to the governor's office (hi I'm new here)"
11:13:16 Mod_ariana There's some info
11:13:59 Host_Housepoet Hi Amy!
11:14:01 Host_Housepoet Welcome!
11:14:04 amyfaline or state representatives might be another good route to go--especially ones in tourist areas they might be more receptive to the threat of a boycott
11:14:05 amyfaline hi!
11:14:05 Mod_ariana I'm sure if we come up with one or two sample letters and contact info and put it up on a page at BFIN
11:14:24 Mod_ariana We can then find some CO BF lists and distribute it to them
11:14:28 mwalton On the maps for breastfeeding and boobiebootcamp aren't there any members in there from Colorado?
11:14:30 galadriel2006 hello, all!
11:14:34 tristyn Thanks for the post with the summarization, Ariana
11:14:37 Host_Housepoet hello!
11:14:46 Host_Housepoet there are lots of memebes in CO
11:14:51 Host_Housepoet let me take a look Mwalton
11:15:16 Host_Housepoet <lj user=witchbaby33"> - Denver  <lj user="tanoshii_chan"> - Colorado Springs  <lj user=bennygogo> - Fort Carson"
11:15:27 Host_Housepoet smiley845 - Limon  _implied_ - Grand Junction
11:15:36 Host_Housepoet vespaboy - Denver
11:15:41 Host_Housepoet those are all the people
11:15:56 Host_Housepoet I know there has got to be more though in BN but Julie hasn't updated the list in a while
11:16:03 mwalton well i'm sure at least one of them would be willing to let you use their address..adn i bet they'd probably write letters too!
11:16:05 Mod_ariana I'm sure one of those people is in a local LLL group or knows some other BF families
11:16:15 Host_Housepoet I opened up a can by asking people to reply to that thread, I got over 80 replies in breastfeeding alone
11:16:47 Host_Housepoet Ariana, in one of those incidents in CO wasn't there something about LLL doing a walk through?
11:16:59 Host_Housepoet oh yes
11:17:00 Host_Housepoet To counter anti-breast-feeding sentiment, the La Leche League will hold a World Breast-feeding Week Walk from 10 a.m. to noon Aug. 27 at City Park in Fort Collins.""
11:17:24 galadriel2006 isn't that a bit on the late side?
11:17:40 conchispa better later than never.
11:17:43 Host_Housepoet Yes, that is what I was thinking
11:17:44 Host_Housepoet BUT
11:17:51 Host_Housepoet August is World Breastfeeding Month I guess
11:17:59 conchispa besides, i'm sure there are many more incidents of breaking the BF law that just don't get the publicity
11:17:59 Host_Housepoet or breastfeeding awareness month
11:18:05 Host_Housepoet so you can do anything during the month
11:18:20 Host_Housepoet the thing that I don't get is that LLL is not an activist group
11:18:23 Host_Housepoet in the least
11:18:40 Mod_ariana I don't think that walk is in response to the negative NIP stuff
11:18:41 galadriel2006 there may be another nurse out in DFW in hooters
11:18:52 Mod_ariana just a pro-bf thing for World BF MOnth
11:19:16 amyfaline are there really any bf activist groups (besides this one:-)?
11:19:18 conchispa even better. promoting BFing is a good reason :)
11:19:31 Host_Housepoet Yes Amy
11:19:34 Host_Housepoet there are quite a few
11:19:41 Host_Housepoet http://nurseout.org
11:19:46 Host_Housepoet http://lactivists.org
11:19:55 Host_Housepoet Ariana do you know what that new one is called?
11:20:01 Host_Housepoet the one you sent me last night?
11:20:18 Host_Housepoet http://www.nurseherenow.com/default.html
11:20:20 Host_Housepoet there we go
11:20:24 Mod_ariana you beat me
11:20:35 Host_Housepoet hehe
11:20:40 Host_Housepoet I have the email you sent me
11:20:52 Host_Housepoet so yes, there are a lot of groups, all spread out across the US