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11:00:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of the
Breastfeedingisnormal.org chat on advocacy. I’m your
hostess with the mostess, Noel Pickett, infamously known
as the housepoet on livejournal. My co host partner in
crime is the lovely Arianamama, who is sweet and
charming. If you have any questions, please double click
on her name and that will open a small private window
for you to chat with her in. |
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11:01:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
I have no excuse today, school is out for the summer, I
am fresh off my 28th birthday celebrations AND my 22
month old fell asleep on the floor last night, and I got
to go to bed and sleep alone for a WHOLE HOUR!!!!! WOW,
I feel like a new person! ;) |
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11:01:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
Recap of last chat LAST FORMAL CHAT http://mommychats.com/transcripts/bfactivism04.htm
Quote of the chat: breastfeed or die! |
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11:01:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
Mission Statement. |
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11:01:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
Breastfeedingisnormal.org is committed to making a
positive difference in the perception of breastfeeding,
to making the practice of breastfeeding normal" again in
our society, and to replacing the onslaught of infant
formula found in today's media with breastfeeding
education and resources. Through political advocacy,
Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes governmental support
and protection of breastfeeding mothers and their
children. Through education and support,
Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes healthy alternatives
to formula use, encourages new mothers to begin and
continue breastfeeding, gives mothers the confidence to
nurse their children in public, and gives society the
understanding that breastfeeding is normal." |
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11:02:11 |
Hisrisingstar |
hey, ariana, I just got your email yesterday, I am still
doing the WHO code violations, I should have it done by
tomorrow! |
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11:02:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
Let's start off today with some Nurse IN news |
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11:02:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
lately we've been hearing a LOT about nurse out's being
world bfing week and all |
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11:02:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
but it looks like we have a cause in Utah |
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11:02:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
Mwalton is going to chat with us about that right now! |
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11:02:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
mwalton - the floor is yours |
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11:03:04 |
mwalton |
Thank you. There is a local store called the Quilted
Bear that recently flagrantly violated UT breastfeeding
laws |
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11:03:24 |
mwalton |
they asked a mother (who was even using a blanket even
though she's not required to by law) to either nurse in
the restroom or leave the store |
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11:03:30 |
mwalton |
She was escorted out by security! |
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11:03:51 |
mwalton |
More information on the incident can be found at:
http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_2919050 |
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11:04:21 |
mwalton |
In response to that, myself, along with my friend
Jennifer, who due to an appt couldn't be here today, are
organizing a nurse in |
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11:04:39 |
mwalton |
It will be held at the offending Quilted Bear located at
the Newgate Mall in Ogden this Friday at 7 PM |
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11:04:55 |
mwalton |
More information can be found at:
http://www.bagheraonline.net/nursein/ |
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11:05:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
Good work mwalton! |
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11:05:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
Utah has a law that protect a woman's right to
breastfeed her child |
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11:05:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
17-15-25. Right to Breast Feed. The County Legislative
Bodies may not prohibit a woman's breast feeding in any
location where she otherwise may rightfully be,
irrespective of whether the breast is uncovered during
or incidental to the breastfeeding. |
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11:06:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
There is yet another case of discrimination going on in
Colorado as well |
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11:06:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana is going to tell us about that one |
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11:06:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana - the floor is yours |
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11:06:26 |
Mod_ariana |
There have been a couple incidents recently in Colorado. |
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11:06:41 |
Mod_ariana |
A mother was actually ticketed on a beach in Fort
Collins http://www.colorado.gov/governor/contact.html |
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11:06:43 |
tristyn |
You'd think the Quilted Bear people would have
learned...Utah already has had this sort of thing
happen. |
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11:06:59 |
Mod_ariana |
The citation was eventually dismissed |
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11:07:13 |
Mod_ariana |
But then a woman was asked to move when sitting in the
reception area of the governor's office
http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3982781,00.html. |
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11:07:28 |
Mod_ariana |
where she was BF I should say. ;) |
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11:07:43 |
Mod_ariana |
I think these two incidents together show a really bad
pattern |
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11:07:54 |
Mod_ariana |
In both cases isn't government employees |
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11:08:14 |
Mod_ariana |
with the second one in the actual Governor's office |
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11:08:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
To add, Colorado has a great NIP law as well |
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11:08:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can read about it here: |
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11:08:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/summary.html#CO |
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11:08:29 |
Mod_ariana |
I think we need a letter writing campaign |
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11:08:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
plainly stated C.R.S.25-6-302. Breastfeeding. A
mother may breastfeed in any place she has a right to
be. |
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11:08:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly. |
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11:08:52 |
Mod_ariana |
I think we should write Gov. Bill Owens and ask him to
make a statement about breastfeeding |
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11:09:01 |
Mod_ariana |
esp. since we've just had World BF Week |
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11:09:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
tell them as bfing mother's we won't be vacationing
there. |
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11:09:25 |
Mod_ariana |
Honestly I think of CO as a BF friendly state becasue
they have the good law and they have high rates of BF |
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11:09:41 |
Mod_ariana |
but wtih this kind of harrasment and discouragement it
won't stay high for long! |
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11:09:55 |
Mod_ariana |
I need someone who is good at putting together a nicely
worded letter |
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11:10:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
coughtristyncough |
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11:10:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:10:21 |
Mod_ariana |
to Gov. Bill Owens asking him to make a statement about
BF and to make sure his employees are aware of the law |
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11:10:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
show up at the capital with the law in their hands |
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11:10:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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11:10:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
which brings us to our next subject. |
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11:10:55 |
conchispa |
if you tell me what content should go into the letter, i
can try to put it together |
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11:10:59 |
tristyn |
Interestingly, the contact informationfor the governor
states that if you want a reply to email, you ned to
include a Colorado mailing address. I wonder if that is
an indicator to how receptive he'll be to letters from
nonconstituents |
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11:11:09 |
Cynica |
what! |
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11:11:16 |
Cynica |
I have family in Colorado. |
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11:11:19 |
tristyn |
Also, I hate this keyboard. Hold on. |
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11:11:37 |
Cynica |
They would be happy to forward some letters from me, I
am sure. |
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11:12:35 |
Mod_ariana |
I think wiht enough letters even from non CO residents
he'd feel some pressure |
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11:12:36 |
tristyn |
I need to review the two incidents, and I'll certainly
be writing a letter when I've done that. |
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11:12:50 |
tristyn |
I'll be happy to post it to LJ when I've done so |
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11:13:01 |
Mod_ariana |
tristyn
http://www.livejournal.com/community/lactivism/135751.html?mode=reply |
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11:13:14 |
amyfaline |
I wonder if there is a group in CO that could be
contacted that might already have an in" to the
governor's office (hi I'm new here)" |
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11:13:16 |
Mod_ariana |
There's some info |
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11:13:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hi Amy! |
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11:14:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
Welcome! |
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11:14:04 |
amyfaline |
or state representatives might be another good route to
go--especially ones in tourist areas they might be more
receptive to the threat of a boycott |
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11:14:05 |
amyfaline |
hi! |
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11:14:05 |
Mod_ariana |
I'm sure if we come up with one or two sample letters
and contact info and put it up on a page at BFIN |
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11:14:24 |
Mod_ariana |
We can then find some CO BF lists and distribute it to
them |
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11:14:28 |
mwalton |
On the maps for breastfeeding and boobiebootcamp aren't
there any members in there from Colorado? |
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11:14:30 |
galadriel2006 |
hello, all! |
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11:14:34 |
tristyn |
Thanks for the post with the summarization, Ariana |
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11:14:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
hello! |
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11:14:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
there are lots of memebes in CO |
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11:14:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
let me take a look Mwalton |
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11:15:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
<lj user=witchbaby33"> - Denver <lj
user="tanoshii_chan"> - Colorado Springs <lj
user=bennygogo> - Fort Carson" |
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11:15:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
smiley845 - Limon _implied_ - Grand Junction |
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11:15:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
vespaboy - Denver |
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11:15:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
those are all the people |
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11:15:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know there has got to be more though in BN but Julie
hasn't updated the list in a while |
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11:16:03 |
mwalton |
well i'm sure at least one of them would be willing to
let you use their address..adn i bet they'd probably
write letters too! |
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11:16:05 |
Mod_ariana |
I'm sure one of those people is in a local LLL group or
knows some other BF families |
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11:16:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
I opened up a can by asking people to reply to that
thread, I got over 80 replies in breastfeeding alone |
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11:16:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana, in one of those incidents in CO wasn't there
something about LLL doing a walk through? |
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11:16:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh yes |
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11:17:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
To counter anti-breast-feeding sentiment, the La Leche
League will hold a World Breast-feeding Week Walk from
10 a.m. to noon Aug. 27 at City Park in Fort Collins."" |
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11:17:24 |
galadriel2006 |
isn't that a bit on the late side? |
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11:17:40 |
conchispa |
better later than never. |
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11:17:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
Yes, that is what I was thinking |
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11:17:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT |
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11:17:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
August is World Breastfeeding Month I guess |
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11:17:59 |
conchispa |
besides, i'm sure there are many more incidents of
breaking the BF law that just don't get the publicity |
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11:17:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
or breastfeeding awareness month |
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11:18:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
so you can do anything during the month |
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11:18:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
the thing that I don't get is that LLL is not an
activist group |
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11:18:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
in the least |
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11:18:40 |
Mod_ariana |
I don't think that walk is in response to the negative
NIP stuff |
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11:18:41 |
galadriel2006 |
there may be another nurse out in DFW in hooters |
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11:18:52 |
Mod_ariana |
just a pro-bf thing for World BF MOnth |
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11:19:16 |
amyfaline |
are there really any bf activist groups (besides this
one:-)? |
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11:19:18 |
conchispa |
even better. promoting BFing is a good reason :) |
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11:19:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
Yes Amy |
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11:19:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
there are quite a few |
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11:19:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://nurseout.org |
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11:19:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://lactivists.org |
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11:19:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana do you know what that new one is called? |
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11:20:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
the one you sent me last night? |
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11:20:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.nurseherenow.com/default.html |
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11:20:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
there we go |
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11:20:24 |
Mod_ariana |
you beat me |
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11:20:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe |
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11:20:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
I have the email you sent me |
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11:20:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
so yes, there are a lot of groups, all spread out across
the US |
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11:21:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
the thing is, a lot of people don't have full info on
things, so that's why we all have to band together |
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11:21:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
so that every single mom knows what's happened in CO or
UT. |
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11:21:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's the point of this site...a network of mom's in
the know at all times |
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11:21:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have one other issue that Cynica is going to talk
about |
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11:21:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
Cynica - the floor is yours |
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11:22:24 |
Cynica |
I live in Phoenix and there was a short bit on the news
last nig about breast milk banks. I thought that this
was going to be a great opportunity to get the word out
about these -- even maybe give us information about
donating or where the closest bank is! |
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11:23:07 |
CrystalDOF |
ohhh there was a thing in the LA times about them too,
on in particular- prolacta"" |
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11:23:07 |
galadriel2006 |
great idea |
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11:23:10 |
Cynica |
It was, instead, a very short blurb (although I was
grateful that they mentioned ANYTHING about milk banks)
and it mentioned a mom of a preemie who used milk for
her 3-month-premature babe who is doing well. |
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11:23:12 |
tristyn |
Oh, what happened in DFW with Hooters? |
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11:23:24 |
galadriel2006 |
people are thinking about doing a nurse out there |
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11:23:28 |
Cynica |
When the newscasters came back from the spot, the male
caster said, Uhh, and what happened to formula?" |
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11:23:38 |
galadriel2006 |
i'll be headed there if they do it |
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11:23:41 |
tristyn |
Laugh. Silly man. |
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11:23:44 |
galadriel2006 |
hehe |
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11:23:48 |
Mod_ariana |
At this time, please keep all side conversations to
private message (PM). To PM someone, please double click
their name in the user list to the right (in purple).
Clicking their name in the main window will only paste
their name into the chat. |
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11:24:10 |
Cynica |
And the female caster, even though she was a little more
on the pro-milk side still had a well, these crazy
chicks and their crunchy beliefs.." tone to her voice
(maybe I read a little into that). ;)" |
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11:24:37 |
Cynica |
I have saved the clip onto my webhost. |
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11:24:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
I've downloaded the clip as well, and will be uploading
it to bfin with cynica's permission |
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11:25:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright! |
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11:25:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
moving right along |
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11:25:15 |
Cynica |
I'd like to know if there's any way for us/a collective
group to contact these people with information about WHY
breast milk is best and why a preemie wouldn't do well. |
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11:25:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
There is a way for that |
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11:25:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
We just have to have someone coughtristyncough |
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11:25:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
write a nice letter with facts and we send it to them |
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11:26:04 |
Mod_ariana |
Cynica if you write up a letter with contact info and
what not we can post it on Breastfeedingisnormal and get
everyone to send it in! |
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11:26:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
or anyone else can write the letter as well. |
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11:26:09 |
Cynica |
Oh, and of course you have my permission. Let me know
where it'll be hosted and i'll pimp it. ;) |
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11:26:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
That's a great idea. |
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11:26:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright :) |
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11:26:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
we can also send a letter to Promom as well |
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11:26:28 |
Cynica |
ariana - I'll do that today. |
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11:26:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
they have a good thing going |
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11:26:40 |
galadriel2006 |
that works! :) :) |
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11:27:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
awesome |
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11:27:05 |
anika |
WHASSUP Y'ALL |
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11:27:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
so we'll get on that |
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11:27:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
so that brings us to flyers! |
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11:27:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
State Flyers -
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/Activism/StateLawFlyers |
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11:27:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
They are ready for download and can be printed on any
home printer. You can also send the file to your local
kinkos through email and have them print copies for you.
Tell them that you are a non profit group and that you
just need a few, like 25 copies or so, and they can give
them to you for free. It doesn’t always happen, but it
never hurts to ask! |
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11:27:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
.. |
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11:27:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
Keep these flyers with you at all times, so that if you
ever had an issue with someone you can casually hand
this to them and continue nursing. We are having Carrie,
the national director of the Nurse Out, write up an
article about nicely saying ‘eff off’ when someone asks
you to move when NIP. ;) She’s a southern girl, with
great charm, and she’ll show you how to politely and
firmly stand your ground, armed with a flyer such as
these. J |
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11:28:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
So there is info on the site about what to do with siad
flyers |
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11:28:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
like if you ever saw a mom nursing her baby under a
blanket, you could hand her one |
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11:29:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
and thank her for nurisng her baby in public |
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11:29:10 |
Cynica |
wow, arizona has no BFing rights. |
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11:29:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
you would also give her the confidence to NIP |
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11:29:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
I KNOW |
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11:29:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
see that is such a big issue |
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11:29:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's why legistaltion has to change |
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11:29:38 |
Mod_ariana |
Cynica if your state has no BF laws then you can let
your local politicians know that it's not cool with you |
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11:29:56 |
Mod_ariana |
There's the link right there to find your state senators
& representatives |
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11:30:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes there is! |
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11:30:10 |
Cynica |
Yep, I'm gonna utilize that. Great resource. |
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11:30:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
We just want ever state to protect the rights of
breastfeeding mothers |
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11:31:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
I have my own business cards made out with the CA law on
them |
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11:31:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://noelove.com/gallery/albums/bean/DSCF8290.jpg |
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11:31:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
I got a great deal through vistaprint.com, I did pay for
the premium cards, but the free ones are just as nice
too |
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11:32:09 |
Mod_ariana |
mwalton you were going to get business cards printed
too, weren't you? |
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11:32:40 |
mwalton |
I had already bought the stock to make them myself |
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11:32:45 |
Cynica |
wow, nice.. i think that will go a lot farther than a
verbal shouting match |
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11:33:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
I agree |
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11:34:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
you just ahnd it off and say these are my rights |
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11:34:03 |
mwalton |
but I definately will for the next batch..much much
easier than doing them myself |
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11:34:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
Another issue |
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11:35:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
I am on the National Nurse Out Email list for the
organizers |
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11:35:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0809cr-nursing09-ON.html |
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11:36:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
so the gist of it |
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11:36:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
Breast-feeding moms told to cover up or be cited |
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11:36:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
Mothers who breast-feed on Chandler city property must
cover up, go to a private spot or leave if someone
complains. Refuse and they could face criminal
trespassing charges. |
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11:36:29 |
Cynica |
Ah, that's near me, too. |
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11:36:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
The supervisor should respectfully" ask the mother to
cover herself or offer her a private place to feed the
child. If she refuses, she will be asked to leave the
building or grounds. Failure to leave could result in
criminal trespassing charges, Eynatten said." |
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11:37:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
We'll have the full article being sent out in our next
newsletter |
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11:37:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
But it looks like AZ is def. a place that needs some
action |
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11:37:20 |
mwalton |
Definately |
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11:37:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
Cyinca have you ever seen http://breastorbust.com ? |
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11:37:29 |
Cynica |
I got some boobs and a baby that loves 'em, so let me
know. |
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11:37:35 |
Cynica |
Nope. |
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11:37:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
The woman who runs it is in AZ |
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11:37:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
she organized the nurse out there this past week |
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11:37:52 |
Cynica |
Loading it up now.. |
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11:37:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
He name is Chandra |
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11:37:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
check out the site |
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11:37:58 |
Cynica |
is that michelle? oh, okay. |
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11:38:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's all lactivist shirts and things |
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11:38:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
that might be her partner |
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11:38:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
so ladies there is a LOT going on right now |
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11:38:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
well still it seems |
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11:38:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
someone is always trying to violate our rights./ |
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11:38:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have to act quickly and swiftly and let people know
we won't stand for this kind of treatment |
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11:38:53 |
galadriel2006 |
grrr |
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11:38:57 |
galadriel2006 |
yeah |
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11:38:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's discrimination at its finest |
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11:39:08 |
galadriel2006 |
that is absolutely ridiculous |
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11:39:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
some states have NIP laws that call it segregation to
ask a BFIng mother to move |
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11:39:35 |
galadriel2006 |
way to assimilate a completely male perspective as the
only valid viewpoint |
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11:39:39 |
tristyn |
I can't believe that's a NEW piece of legislation. |
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11:39:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
some states let you SUE the offending party for damages |
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11:40:01 |
tristyn |
I don't think it's a male perspective. THere are a lot
of proBF men. IMO, the worst offenders are middle-aged
women. |
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11:40:11 |
CrystalDOF |
werd |
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11:40:23 |
galadriel2006 |
the perspective that breasts are only sexual is fairly
male |
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11:40:26 |
galadriel2006 |
that's what i meant |
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11:40:34 |
mwalton |
yep in the UT incident the complaining parties were
other women! |
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11:40:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
most likely feeling guilty for not bfing their own
children, or having body issues themselves |
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11:41:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
and that's what the main problem here is |
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11:41:08 |
galadriel2006 |
i don't know any woman who really looks at her breasts
and says oooh! sex!" so much as "is my left breast
bigger than my right?"" |
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11:41:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
is that other people are trying to dictate what is right
for our babies |
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11:41:16 |
tristyn |
I've heard more women saying that breasts are playthings
only than men |
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11:41:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's THEIR issue that they don't feel comfortable and
they push that on bfing mothers |
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11:41:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's not fair. |
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11:41:43 |
galadriel2006 |
wow |
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11:41:46 |
galadriel2006 |
that's really sad |
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11:41:48 |
iworshipsatin |
hi |
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11:42:37 |
Mod_ariana |
Ok, we still have some more to get through so let's go
on to the next issue |
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11:42:57 |
Mod_ariana |
Breastfeedingisnormal.org has a sister organization |
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11:42:59 |
Mod_ariana |
Adopt A Mom |
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11:43:08 |
Mod_ariana |
Many of you are involved in that already |
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11:43:13 |
galadriel2006 |
cool! |
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11:43:27 |
Mod_ariana |
Experienced breastfeeders mentor women online one on one
in breastfeeding |
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11:43:53 |
Mod_ariana |
Right now what Adopt A Mom needs from you lactivists |
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11:44:15 |
Mod_ariana |
1. Mentors -- if you have 6 months or more BF experience
and want to help women sign up to be a mentor |
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11:44:26 |
galadriel2006 |
where do i do this? |
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11:44:29 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/712.html |
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11:44:46 |
anika |
I'm a little shy of six months but I would love to help
out |
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11:44:55 |
Mod_ariana |
If you are very new to breastfeeding and feel you could
really benefit from a mentor then go to this thread. |
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11:45:05 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16823.html |
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11:45:22 |
Mod_ariana |
If you're still pregnant than go to this thread
http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16919.html |
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11:45:42 |
Mod_ariana |
If you don't fit any of those categories yet you can
still help out |
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11:45:55 |
Mod_ariana |
We're trying to get together as much info as we can to
help our little sisters"" |
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11:46:13 |
Mod_ariana |
If you come across a great page online with BF info
please pass it on |
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11:46:20 |
Mod_ariana |
to adopt.a.mom.admin@gmail.com |
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11:46:28 |
galadriel2006 |
sure |
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11:46:48 |
Mod_ariana |
If you have expertise in a certain area and want to
write up an article pulling together info from different
online and written sources |
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11:46:51 |
anika |
why aren't the links clickable? |
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11:47:11 |
Mod_ariana |
Then GO FO IT! you can email it to the same address
adopt.a.mom.admin@gmail.com |
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11:47:18 |
mwalton |
you might have a popup blocker installed otherwise
they'll pop up in a new window |
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11:47:30 |
Mod_ariana |
A lot of these articles we're also putting up on the
breastfeedingisnormal.org site. |
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11:47:34 |
anika |
aye...thats right |
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11:48:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
Banner Exchange – We are looking for a few good banners! |
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11:48:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
Do you have a favourite WAHM store that you frequent?
Know a bfing friendly company? Well, let us know! We’re
looking for banner exchange for the bfin site. Companies
that we exchange with must not have any formula funding
or bfing advice that goes against the AAP or WHO. Send
your favourite website to info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:48:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ok, the site is STILL under construction |
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11:48:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
we've been having some server issues |
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11:49:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
moving it from one to another, but we are going to get
that resolved soon and the message board will be back up
as well |
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11:49:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
BUT WE STILL NEED YOUR HELP! |
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11:50:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
If you go to the site htt[://breastfeedingisnormal.org
and see an article link that says coming soon, YOU can
be the one to write that article! |
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11:50:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
We really want to have the site UP as a whole, before we
make the annoucement that it is open and ready to go |
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11:50:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
we are still working on the dr black list database, and
that is a huge project to undertake |
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11:50:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
But we have Bean (tahoebean) and her husband working on
it day and night |
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11:51:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok, the floor is now open |
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11:51:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
Angwish, you had something you wanted to show us? |
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11:51:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
Crystal you too? |
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11:51:48 |
CrystalDOF |
ohhhkay |
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11:51:54 |
CrystalDOF |
interesting article |
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11:51:56 |
CrystalDOF |
http://www.latimes.com/business/printedition/la-fi-milk9aug09,1,4034833.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-business&ctrack=1&cset=true |
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11:52:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
ah you must register |
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11:52:31 |
CrystalDOF |
hold on |
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11:52:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
crystal, would you mind copying and pasting this article
in full and sending it to info@breastfeedingisnormal.org
please |
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11:52:57 |
anngwish42 |
Something to show, perhaps; something to suggest,
definitely. |
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11:53:24 |
anngwish42 |
I was thinking we should do up posters for the
workplace, with the state breastfeeding laws, just like
the printouts only bigger. |
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11:53:28 |
CrystalDOF |
http://www.livejournal.com/users/evrydayjnglbtch/49612.html |
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11:53:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
I think that is a great Idea anngwish! |
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11:53:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
thank you crystal |
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11:53:49 |
anngwish42 |
Like the OSHA and minimum wage posters that go in the
break rooms, you know? |
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11:54:07 |
tristyn |
Except possibly more likely to be read |
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11:54:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
heh |
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11:54:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
so true! |
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11:54:40 |
anngwish42 |
People get bored on lunch. I know I used to. |
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11:54:47 |
anngwish42 |
Then they read posters. |
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11:54:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder how we could get all employers to put them up
in the break room |
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11:55:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
is that possible? |
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11:55:12 |
Mod_ariana |
Like especially for retail or resturant locations,
right? |
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11:55:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes, that's a great idea. |
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11:55:33 |
amyfaline |
maybe through local chambers of commerce??? |
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11:55:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
perhaps, Amy would you like to look into that for us? |
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11:55:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
and report back at the next chat? |
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11:55:57 |
Mod_ariana |
Or even going to a place and asking the manager if he'd
be willing to put it up |
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11:56:07 |
mwalton |
what was that la time link again? |
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11:56:09 |
anngwish42 |
I'm thinking of it being a state-level campaign; when
we're taking it up with governors (like the letters to
the governor of CO), mention posters with the laws on
them as an option. I mean, it's sure as hell cheaper and
easier than dragging people through |
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11:56:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
and reporting back if they say yes or no ;) |
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11:56:14 |
amyfaline |
yes, I will put that on my to do list |
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11:56:15 |
anngwish42 |
training classes or something |
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11:56:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
perfect! |
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11:56:30 |
tristyn |
In attaining compliance, the question is, what would be
the benefit for businesses to putting up posters? |
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11:56:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
great ideas Anngwish! |
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11:56:48 |
Hisrisingstar |
i know a GREAT breastfeeding doctor |
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11:56:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
well they won't end up on our naughty companies list. ;) |
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11:56:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
AHAHAHAHAH |
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11:56:59 |
Hisrisingstar |
but hes military, and only people in the military can
see him |
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11:57:06 |
Mod_ariana |
tristyn well for companies that deal with the public
they can teach their employees to follow the law!! |
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11:57:07 |
Hisrisingstar |
should I still add him to the list? |
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11:57:16 |
anngwish42 |
Not getting bad publicity and lawsuits, that's their
benefit. If the employees don't harass breastfeeding
mothers, they don't end up on the news as the place
where a mom wasn't allowed to feed her baby! |
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11:57:16 |
Mod_ariana |
Hisrisingstar YES |
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11:57:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes, we are going to have a pro bf and anti bf dr list |
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11:57:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
once it's UP |
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11:57:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:57:24 |
tristyn |
There are a lot of long-term benefits, so I would guess
it's about sending some educational material to the
business |
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11:57:29 |
Hisrisingstar |
ok, do you have the link I would add him to? |
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11:57:48 |
mwalton |
Ooh where can we add great doctors..my ped is the best
pro bf doctor ever! |
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11:57:49 |
Hisrisingstar |
he even told me to breastfeed as long as possible
because the average weaning age is between 4-7!!!!! |
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11:57:51 |
tristyn |
Okay, so these would be posters educating employees on
handling complaints about nursing mothers, etc. I see. |
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11:58:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
YES |
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11:58:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
didn't someone recently post in BN about a store in the
UK having some kick ass policy? |
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11:58:28 |
mwalton |
yes boots |
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11:58:42 |
mwalton |
er that's the store's name |
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11:58:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes |
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11:58:49 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.livejournal.com/community/boob_nazis/1410852.html
That's the post about boots |
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11:59:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
you're quick |
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11:59:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok guys, I have to officially end the chat now |
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11:59:30 |
tristyn |
So we'd be looking at a poster RE state law, accompanied
by a letter explaining to management why this is
important (e.g., look at this lawsuit, this debacle,
etc.) |
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12:00:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
YES tristyn |
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12:00:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
like, here, learn how to protect YOUR company from this |
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12:00:22 |
mwalton |
what a great idea! |
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12:00:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
and gain the respect and customers |
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12:00:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
of breastfeeding mothers |
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