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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #9
 8/10/05

15 mamas in attendance

11:00:58 Host_Housepoet Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of the Breastfeedingisnormal.org chat on advocacy. I’m your hostess with the mostess, Noel Pickett, infamously known as the housepoet on livejournal. My co host partner in crime is the lovely Arianamama, who is sweet and charming. If you have any questions, please double click on her name and that will open a small private window for you to chat with her in.
11:01:14 Host_Housepoet I have no excuse today, school is out for the summer, I am fresh off my 28th birthday celebrations AND my 22 month old fell asleep on the floor last night, and I got to go to bed and sleep alone for a WHOLE HOUR!!!!! WOW, I feel like a new person! ;)
11:01:24 Host_Housepoet Recap of last chat  LAST FORMAL CHAT http://mommychats.com/transcripts/bfactivism04.htm    Quote of the chat: breastfeed or die!
11:01:34 Host_Housepoet Mission Statement.
11:01:40 Host_Housepoet Breastfeedingisnormal.org is committed to making a positive difference in the perception of breastfeeding, to making the practice of breastfeeding normal" again in our society, and to replacing the onslaught of infant formula found in today's media with breastfeeding education and resources.  Through political advocacy, Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes governmental support and protection of breastfeeding mothers and their children.  Through education and support, Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes healthy alternatives to formula use, encourages new mothers to begin and continue breastfeeding, gives mothers the confidence to nurse their children in public, and gives society the understanding that breastfeeding is normal."
11:02:11 Hisrisingstar hey, ariana, I just got your email yesterday, I am still doing the WHO code violations, I should have it done by tomorrow!
11:02:11 Host_Housepoet Let's start off today with some Nurse IN news
11:02:24 Host_Housepoet lately we've been hearing a LOT about nurse out's being world bfing week and all
11:02:30 Host_Housepoet but it looks like we have a cause in Utah
11:02:38 Host_Housepoet Mwalton is going to chat with us about that right now!
11:02:43 Host_Housepoet mwalton - the floor is yours
11:03:04 mwalton Thank you.  There is a local store called the Quilted Bear that recently flagrantly violated UT breastfeeding laws
11:03:24 mwalton they asked a mother (who was even using a blanket even though she's not required to by law) to either nurse in the restroom or leave the store
11:03:30 mwalton She was escorted out by security!
11:03:51 mwalton More information on the incident can be found at:  http://www.sltrib.com/nationworld/ci_2919050
11:04:21 mwalton In response to that, myself, along with my friend Jennifer, who due to an appt couldn't be here today, are organizing a nurse in
11:04:39 mwalton It will be held at the offending Quilted Bear located at the Newgate Mall in Ogden this Friday at 7 PM
11:04:55 mwalton More information can be found at:  http://www.bagheraonline.net/nursein/
11:05:14 Host_Housepoet Good work mwalton!
11:05:30 Host_Housepoet Utah has a law that protect a woman's right to breastfeed her child
11:05:31 Host_Housepoet 17-15-25. Right to Breast Feed.  The County Legislative Bodies may not prohibit a woman's breast feeding in any location where she otherwise may rightfully be, irrespective of whether the breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breastfeeding.
11:06:11 Host_Housepoet There is yet another case of discrimination going on in Colorado as well
11:06:17 Host_Housepoet Ariana is going to tell us about that one
11:06:23 Host_Housepoet Ariana - the floor is yours
11:06:26 Mod_ariana There have been a couple incidents recently in Colorado.
11:06:41 Mod_ariana A mother was actually ticketed on a beach in Fort Collins http://www.colorado.gov/governor/contact.html
11:06:43 tristyn You'd think the Quilted Bear people would have learned...Utah already has had this sort of thing happen.
11:06:59 Mod_ariana The citation was eventually dismissed
11:07:13 Mod_ariana But then a woman was asked to move when sitting in the reception area of the governor's office http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3982781,00.html.
11:07:28 Mod_ariana where she was BF I should say. ;)
11:07:43 Mod_ariana I think these two incidents together show a really bad pattern
11:07:54 Mod_ariana In both cases isn't government employees
11:08:14 Mod_ariana with the second one in the actual Governor's office
11:08:21 Host_Housepoet To add, Colorado has a great NIP law as well
11:08:26 Host_Housepoet you can read about it here:
11:08:26 Host_Housepoet http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/summary.html#CO
11:08:29 Mod_ariana I think we need a letter writing campaign
11:08:39 Host_Housepoet plainly stated C.R.S.25-6-302. Breastfeeding.    A mother may breastfeed in any place she has a right to be.
11:08:46 Host_Housepoet exactly.
11:08:52 Mod_ariana I think we should write Gov. Bill Owens and ask him to make a statement about breastfeeding
11:09:01 Mod_ariana esp. since we've just had World BF Week
11:09:04 Host_Housepoet tell them as bfing mother's we won't be vacationing there.
11:09:25 Mod_ariana Honestly I think of CO as a BF friendly state becasue they have the good law and they have high rates of BF
11:09:41 Mod_ariana but wtih this kind of harrasment and discouragement it won't stay high for long!
11:09:55 Mod_ariana I need someone who is good at putting together a nicely worded letter
11:10:09 Host_Housepoet coughtristyncough
11:10:21 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:10:21 Mod_ariana to Gov. Bill Owens asking him to make a statement about BF and to make sure his employees are aware of the law
11:10:38 Host_Housepoet show up at the capital with the law in their hands
11:10:39 Host_Housepoet :)
11:10:50 Host_Housepoet which brings us to our next subject.
11:10:55 conchispa if you tell me what content should go into the letter, i can try to put it together
11:10:59 tristyn Interestingly, the contact informationfor the governor states that if you want a reply to email, you ned to include a Colorado mailing address. I wonder if that is an indicator to how receptive he'll be to letters from nonconstituents
11:11:09 Cynica what!
11:11:16 Cynica I have family in Colorado.
11:11:19 tristyn Also, I hate this keyboard. Hold on.
11:11:37 Cynica They would be happy to forward some letters from me, I am sure.
11:12:35 Mod_ariana I think wiht enough letters even from non CO residents he'd feel some pressure
11:12:36 tristyn I need to review the two incidents, and I'll certainly be writing a letter when I've done that.
11:12:50 tristyn I'll be happy to post it to LJ when I've done so
11:13:01 Mod_ariana tristyn http://www.livejournal.com/community/lactivism/135751.html?mode=reply
11:13:14 amyfaline I wonder if there is a group in CO that could be contacted that might already have an in" to the governor's office (hi I'm new here)"
11:13:16 Mod_ariana There's some info
11:13:59 Host_Housepoet Hi Amy!
11:14:01 Host_Housepoet Welcome!
11:14:04 amyfaline or state representatives might be another good route to go--especially ones in tourist areas they might be more receptive to the threat of a boycott
11:14:05 amyfaline hi!
11:14:05 Mod_ariana I'm sure if we come up with one or two sample letters and contact info and put it up on a page at BFIN
11:14:24 Mod_ariana We can then find some CO BF lists and distribute it to them
11:14:28 mwalton On the maps for breastfeeding and boobiebootcamp aren't there any members in there from Colorado?
11:14:30 galadriel2006 hello, all!
11:14:34 tristyn Thanks for the post with the summarization, Ariana
11:14:37 Host_Housepoet hello!
11:14:46 Host_Housepoet there are lots of memebes in CO
11:14:51 Host_Housepoet let me take a look Mwalton
11:15:16 Host_Housepoet <lj user=witchbaby33"> - Denver  <lj user="tanoshii_chan"> - Colorado Springs  <lj user=bennygogo> - Fort Carson"
11:15:27 Host_Housepoet smiley845 - Limon  _implied_ - Grand Junction
11:15:36 Host_Housepoet vespaboy - Denver
11:15:41 Host_Housepoet those are all the people
11:15:56 Host_Housepoet I know there has got to be more though in BN but Julie hasn't updated the list in a while
11:16:03 mwalton well i'm sure at least one of them would be willing to let you use their address..adn i bet they'd probably write letters too!
11:16:05 Mod_ariana I'm sure one of those people is in a local LLL group or knows some other BF families
11:16:15 Host_Housepoet I opened up a can by asking people to reply to that thread, I got over 80 replies in breastfeeding alone
11:16:47 Host_Housepoet Ariana, in one of those incidents in CO wasn't there something about LLL doing a walk through?
11:16:59 Host_Housepoet oh yes
11:17:00 Host_Housepoet To counter anti-breast-feeding sentiment, the La Leche League will hold a World Breast-feeding Week Walk from 10 a.m. to noon Aug. 27 at City Park in Fort Collins.""
11:17:24 galadriel2006 isn't that a bit on the late side?
11:17:40 conchispa better later than never.
11:17:43 Host_Housepoet Yes, that is what I was thinking
11:17:44 Host_Housepoet BUT
11:17:51 Host_Housepoet August is World Breastfeeding Month I guess
11:17:59 conchispa besides, i'm sure there are many more incidents of breaking the BF law that just don't get the publicity
11:17:59 Host_Housepoet or breastfeeding awareness month
11:18:05 Host_Housepoet so you can do anything during the month
11:18:20 Host_Housepoet the thing that I don't get is that LLL is not an activist group
11:18:23 Host_Housepoet in the least
11:18:40 Mod_ariana I don't think that walk is in response to the negative NIP stuff
11:18:41 galadriel2006 there may be another nurse out in DFW in hooters
11:18:52 Mod_ariana just a pro-bf thing for World BF MOnth
11:19:16 amyfaline are there really any bf activist groups (besides this one:-)?
11:19:18 conchispa even better. promoting BFing is a good reason :)
11:19:31 Host_Housepoet Yes Amy
11:19:34 Host_Housepoet there are quite a few
11:19:41 Host_Housepoet http://nurseout.org
11:19:46 Host_Housepoet http://lactivists.org
11:19:55 Host_Housepoet Ariana do you know what that new one is called?
11:20:01 Host_Housepoet the one you sent me last night?
11:20:18 Host_Housepoet http://www.nurseherenow.com/default.html
11:20:20 Host_Housepoet there we go
11:20:24 Mod_ariana you beat me
11:20:35 Host_Housepoet hehe
11:20:40 Host_Housepoet I have the email you sent me
11:20:52 Host_Housepoet so yes, there are a lot of groups, all spread out across the US
11:21:06 Host_Housepoet the thing is, a lot of people don't have full info on things, so that's why we all have to band together
11:21:16 Host_Housepoet so that every single mom knows what's happened in CO or UT.
11:21:30 Host_Housepoet that's the point of this site...a network of mom's in the know at all times
11:21:43 Host_Housepoet we have one other issue that Cynica is going to talk about
11:21:47 Host_Housepoet Cynica - the floor is yours
11:22:24 Cynica I live in Phoenix and there was a short bit on the news last nig about breast milk banks. I thought that this was going to be a great opportunity to get the word out about these -- even maybe give us information about donating or where the closest bank is!
11:23:07 CrystalDOF ohhh there was a thing in the LA times about them too, on in particular- prolacta""
11:23:07 galadriel2006 great idea
11:23:10 Cynica It was, instead, a very short blurb (although I was grateful that they mentioned ANYTHING about milk banks) and it mentioned a mom of a preemie who used milk for her 3-month-premature babe who is doing well.
11:23:12 tristyn Oh, what happened in DFW with Hooters?
11:23:24 galadriel2006 people are thinking about doing a nurse out there
11:23:28 Cynica When the newscasters came back from the spot, the male caster said, Uhh, and what happened to formula?"
11:23:38 galadriel2006 i'll be headed there if they do it
11:23:41 tristyn Laugh. Silly man.
11:23:44 galadriel2006 hehe
11:23:48 Mod_ariana At this time, please keep all side conversations to private message (PM). To PM someone, please double click their name in the user list to the right (in purple). Clicking their name in the main window will only paste their name into the chat.
11:24:10 Cynica And the female caster, even though she was a little more on the pro-milk side still had a well, these crazy chicks and their crunchy beliefs.." tone to her voice (maybe I read a little into that). ;)"
11:24:37 Cynica I have saved the clip onto my webhost.
11:24:58 Host_Housepoet I've downloaded the clip as well, and will be uploading it to bfin with cynica's permission
11:25:11 Host_Housepoet alright!
11:25:14 Host_Housepoet moving right along
11:25:15 Cynica I'd like to know if there's any way for us/a collective group to contact these people with information about WHY breast milk is best and why a preemie wouldn't do well.
11:25:25 Host_Housepoet There is a way for that
11:25:35 Host_Housepoet We just have to have someone coughtristyncough
11:25:46 Host_Housepoet write a nice letter with facts and we send it to them
11:26:04 Mod_ariana Cynica if you write up a letter with contact info and what not we can post it on Breastfeedingisnormal and get everyone to send it in!
11:26:06 Host_Housepoet or anyone else can write the letter as well.
11:26:09 Cynica Oh, and of course you have my permission.  Let me know where it'll be hosted and i'll pimp it. ;)
11:26:11 Host_Housepoet That's a great idea.
11:26:15 Host_Housepoet alright :)
11:26:27 Host_Housepoet we can also send a letter to Promom as well
11:26:28 Cynica ariana - I'll do that today.
11:26:32 Host_Housepoet they have a good thing going
11:26:40 galadriel2006 that works! :)  :)
11:27:03 Host_Housepoet awesome
11:27:05 anika WHASSUP Y'ALL
11:27:06 Host_Housepoet so we'll get on that
11:27:11 Host_Housepoet so that brings us to flyers!
11:27:15 Host_Housepoet State Flyers - http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/Activism/StateLawFlyers
11:27:20 Host_Housepoet They are ready for download and can be printed on any home printer. You can also send the file to your local kinkos through email and have them print copies for you. Tell them that you are a non profit group and that you just need a few, like 25 copies or so, and they can give them to you for free. It doesn’t always happen, but it never hurts to ask!
11:27:23 Host_Housepoet ..
11:27:27 Host_Housepoet Keep these flyers with you at all times, so that if you ever had an issue with someone you can casually hand this to them and continue nursing. We are having Carrie, the national director of the Nurse Out, write up an article about nicely saying ‘eff off’ when someone asks you to move when NIP. ;) She’s a southern girl, with great charm, and she’ll show you how to politely and firmly stand your ground, armed with a flyer such as these. J
11:28:44 Host_Housepoet So there is info on the site about what to do with siad flyers
11:28:58 Host_Housepoet like if you ever saw a mom nursing her baby under a blanket, you could hand her one
11:29:06 Host_Housepoet and thank her for nurisng her baby in public
11:29:10 Cynica wow, arizona has no BFing rights.
11:29:16 Host_Housepoet you would also give her the confidence to NIP
11:29:17 Host_Housepoet I KNOW
11:29:21 Host_Housepoet see that is such a big issue
11:29:26 Host_Housepoet that's why legistaltion has to change
11:29:38 Mod_ariana Cynica if your state has no BF laws then you can let your local politicians know that it's not cool with you
11:29:56 Mod_ariana There's the link right there to find your state senators & representatives
11:30:05 Host_Housepoet yes there is!
11:30:10 Cynica Yep, I'm gonna utilize that.  Great resource.
11:30:43 Host_Housepoet We just want ever state to protect the rights of breastfeeding mothers
11:31:08 Host_Housepoet I have my own business cards made out with the CA law on them
11:31:09 Host_Housepoet http://noelove.com/gallery/albums/bean/DSCF8290.jpg
11:31:44 Host_Housepoet I got a great deal through vistaprint.com, I did pay for the premium cards, but the free ones are just as nice too
11:32:09 Mod_ariana mwalton you were going to get business cards printed too, weren't you?
11:32:40 mwalton I had already bought the stock to make them myself
11:32:45 Cynica wow, nice.. i think that will go a lot farther than a verbal shouting match
11:33:57 Host_Housepoet I agree
11:34:02 Host_Housepoet you just ahnd it off and say these are my rights
11:34:03 mwalton but I definately will for the next batch..much much easier than doing them myself
11:34:39 Host_Housepoet Another issue
11:35:04 Host_Housepoet I am on the National Nurse Out Email list for the organizers
11:35:15 Host_Housepoet http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0809cr-nursing09-ON.html
11:36:00 Host_Housepoet so the gist of it
11:36:07 Host_Housepoet Breast-feeding moms told to cover up or be cited
11:36:16 Host_Housepoet Mothers who breast-feed on Chandler city property must cover up, go to a private spot or leave if someone complains. Refuse and they could face criminal trespassing charges.
11:36:29 Cynica Ah, that's near me, too.
11:36:33 Host_Housepoet The supervisor should respectfully" ask the mother to cover herself or offer her a private place to feed the child. If she refuses, she will be asked to leave the building or grounds. Failure to leave could result in criminal trespassing charges, Eynatten said."
11:37:00 Host_Housepoet We'll have the full article being sent out in our next newsletter
11:37:14 Host_Housepoet But it looks like AZ is def. a place that needs some action
11:37:20 mwalton Definately
11:37:26 Host_Housepoet Cyinca have you ever seen http://breastorbust.com ?
11:37:29 Cynica I got some boobs and a baby that loves 'em, so let me know.
11:37:35 Cynica Nope.
11:37:38 Host_Housepoet The woman who runs it is in AZ
11:37:48 Host_Housepoet she organized the nurse out there this past week
11:37:52 Cynica Loading it up now..
11:37:53 Host_Housepoet He name is Chandra
11:37:57 Host_Housepoet check out the site
11:37:58 Cynica is that michelle? oh, okay.
11:38:02 Host_Housepoet it's all lactivist shirts and things
11:38:07 Host_Housepoet that might be her partner
11:38:18 Host_Housepoet so ladies there is a LOT going on right now
11:38:21 Host_Housepoet well still it seems
11:38:29 Host_Housepoet someone is always trying to violate our rights./
11:38:51 Host_Housepoet we have to act quickly and swiftly and let people know we won't stand for this kind of treatment
11:38:53 galadriel2006 grrr
11:38:57 galadriel2006 yeah
11:38:59 Host_Housepoet it's discrimination at its finest
11:39:08 galadriel2006 that is absolutely ridiculous
11:39:23 Host_Housepoet some states have NIP laws that call it segregation to ask a BFIng mother to move
11:39:35 galadriel2006 way to assimilate a completely male perspective as the only valid viewpoint
11:39:39 tristyn I can't believe that's a NEW piece of legislation.
11:39:43 Host_Housepoet some states let you SUE the offending party for damages
11:40:01 tristyn I don't think it's a male perspective. THere are a lot of proBF men. IMO, the worst offenders are middle-aged women.
11:40:11 CrystalDOF werd
11:40:23 galadriel2006 the perspective that breasts are only sexual is fairly male
11:40:26 galadriel2006 that's what i meant
11:40:34 mwalton yep in the UT incident the complaining parties were other women!
11:40:56 Host_Housepoet most likely feeling guilty for not bfing their own children, or having body issues themselves
11:41:01 Host_Housepoet and that's what the main problem here is
11:41:08 galadriel2006 i don't know any woman who really looks at her breasts and says oooh!  sex!" so much as "is my left breast bigger than my right?""
11:41:11 Host_Housepoet is that other people are trying to dictate what is right for our babies
11:41:16 tristyn I've heard more women saying that breasts are playthings only than men
11:41:22 Host_Housepoet it's THEIR issue that they don't feel comfortable and they push that on bfing mothers
11:41:26 Host_Housepoet it's not fair.
11:41:43 galadriel2006 wow
11:41:46 galadriel2006 that's really sad
11:41:48 iworshipsatin hi
11:42:37 Mod_ariana Ok, we still have some more to get through so let's go on to the next issue
11:42:57 Mod_ariana Breastfeedingisnormal.org has a sister organization
11:42:59 Mod_ariana Adopt A Mom
11:43:08 Mod_ariana Many of you are involved in that already
11:43:13 galadriel2006 cool!
11:43:27 Mod_ariana Experienced breastfeeders mentor women online one on one in breastfeeding
11:43:53 Mod_ariana Right now what Adopt A Mom needs from you lactivists
11:44:15 Mod_ariana 1. Mentors -- if you have 6 months or more BF experience and want to help women sign up to be a mentor
11:44:26 galadriel2006 where do i do this?
11:44:29 Mod_ariana http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/712.html
11:44:46 anika I'm a little shy of six months but I would love to help out
11:44:55 Mod_ariana If you are very new to breastfeeding and feel you could really benefit from a mentor then go to this thread.
11:45:05 Mod_ariana http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16823.html
11:45:22 Mod_ariana If you're still pregnant than go to this thread http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/16919.html
11:45:42 Mod_ariana If you don't fit any of those categories yet you can still help out
11:45:55 Mod_ariana We're trying to get together as much info as we can to help our little sisters""
11:46:13 Mod_ariana If you come across a great page online with BF info please pass it on
11:46:20 Mod_ariana to adopt.a.mom.admin@gmail.com
11:46:28 galadriel2006 sure
11:46:48 Mod_ariana If you have expertise in a certain area and want to write up an article pulling together info from different online and written sources
11:46:51 anika why aren't the links clickable?
11:47:11 Mod_ariana Then GO FO IT! you can email it to the same address adopt.a.mom.admin@gmail.com
11:47:18 mwalton you might have a popup blocker installed otherwise they'll pop up in a new window
11:47:30 Mod_ariana A lot of these articles we're also putting up on the breastfeedingisnormal.org site.
11:47:34 anika aye...thats right
11:48:05 Host_Housepoet Banner Exchange – We are looking for a few good banners!
11:48:15 Host_Housepoet Do you have a favourite WAHM store that you frequent? Know a bfing friendly company? Well, let us know! We’re looking for banner exchange for the bfin site. Companies that we exchange with must not have any formula funding or bfing advice that goes against the AAP or WHO. Send your favourite website to info@breastfeedingisnormal.org
11:48:51 Host_Housepoet Ok, the site is STILL under construction
11:48:58 Host_Housepoet we've been having some server issues
11:49:23 Host_Housepoet moving it from one to another, but we are going to get that resolved soon and the message board will be back up as well
11:49:36 Host_Housepoet BUT WE STILL NEED YOUR HELP!
11:50:05 Host_Housepoet If you go to the site htt[://breastfeedingisnormal.org and see an article link that says coming soon, YOU can be the one to write that article!
11:50:22 Host_Housepoet We really want to have the site UP as a whole, before we make the annoucement that it is open and ready to go
11:50:42 Host_Housepoet we are still working on the dr black list database, and that is a huge project to undertake
11:50:55 Host_Housepoet But we have Bean (tahoebean) and her husband working on it day and night
11:51:05 Host_Housepoet ok, the floor is now open
11:51:15 Host_Housepoet Angwish, you had something you wanted to show us?
11:51:17 Host_Housepoet Crystal you too?
11:51:48 CrystalDOF ohhhkay
11:51:54 CrystalDOF interesting article
11:51:56 CrystalDOF http://www.latimes.com/business/printedition/la-fi-milk9aug09,1,4034833.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-business&ctrack=1&cset=true
11:52:22 Host_Housepoet ah you must register
11:52:31 CrystalDOF hold on
11:52:56 Host_Housepoet crystal, would you mind copying and pasting this article in full and sending it to info@breastfeedingisnormal.org please
11:52:57 anngwish42 Something to show, perhaps; something to suggest, definitely.
11:53:24 anngwish42 I was thinking we should do up posters for the workplace, with the state breastfeeding laws, just like the printouts only bigger.
11:53:28 CrystalDOF http://www.livejournal.com/users/evrydayjnglbtch/49612.html
11:53:43 Host_Housepoet I think that is a great Idea anngwish!
11:53:47 Host_Housepoet thank you crystal
11:53:49 anngwish42 Like the OSHA and minimum wage posters that go in the break rooms, you know?
11:54:07 tristyn Except possibly more likely to be read
11:54:31 Host_Housepoet heh
11:54:32 Host_Housepoet so true!
11:54:40 anngwish42 People get bored on lunch. I know I used to.
11:54:47 anngwish42 Then they read posters.
11:54:59 Host_Housepoet I wonder how we could get all employers to put them up in the break room
11:55:04 Host_Housepoet is that possible?
11:55:12 Mod_ariana Like especially for retail or resturant locations, right?
11:55:18 Host_Housepoet yes, that's a great idea.
11:55:33 amyfaline maybe through local chambers of commerce???
11:55:47 Host_Housepoet perhaps, Amy would you like to look into that for us?
11:55:52 Host_Housepoet and report back at the next chat?
11:55:57 Mod_ariana Or even going to a place and asking the manager if he'd be willing to put it up
11:56:07 mwalton what was that la time link again?
11:56:09 anngwish42 I'm thinking of it being a state-level campaign; when we're taking it up with governors (like the letters to the governor of CO), mention posters with the laws on them as an option. I mean, it's sure as hell cheaper and easier than dragging people through
11:56:12 Host_Housepoet and reporting back if they say yes or no ;)
11:56:14 amyfaline yes, I will put that on my to do list
11:56:15 anngwish42 training classes or something
11:56:27 Host_Housepoet perfect!
11:56:30 tristyn In attaining compliance, the question is, what would be the benefit for businesses to putting up posters?
11:56:36 Host_Housepoet great ideas Anngwish!
11:56:48 Hisrisingstar i know a GREAT breastfeeding doctor
11:56:48 Host_Housepoet well they won't end up on our naughty companies list. ;)
11:56:50 Host_Housepoet AHAHAHAHAH
11:56:59 Hisrisingstar but hes military, and only people in the military can see him
11:57:06 Mod_ariana tristyn well for companies that deal with the public they can teach their employees to follow the law!!
11:57:07 Hisrisingstar should I still add him to the list?
11:57:16 anngwish42 Not getting bad publicity and lawsuits, that's their benefit. If the employees don't harass breastfeeding mothers, they don't end up on the news as the place where a mom wasn't allowed to feed her baby!
11:57:16 Mod_ariana Hisrisingstar YES
11:57:21 Host_Housepoet yes, we are going to have a pro bf and anti bf dr list
11:57:23 Host_Housepoet once it's UP
11:57:24 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:57:24 tristyn There are a lot of long-term benefits, so I would guess it's about sending some educational material to the business
11:57:29 Hisrisingstar ok, do you have the link I would add him to?
11:57:48 mwalton Ooh where can we add great doctors..my ped is the best pro bf doctor ever!
11:57:49 Hisrisingstar he even told me to breastfeed as long as possible because the average weaning age is between 4-7!!!!!
11:57:51 tristyn Okay, so these would be posters educating employees on handling complaints about nursing mothers, etc. I see.
11:58:02 Host_Housepoet YES
11:58:20 Host_Housepoet didn't someone recently post in BN about a store in the UK having some kick ass policy?
11:58:28 mwalton yes boots
11:58:42 mwalton er that's the store's name
11:58:45 Host_Housepoet yes
11:58:49 Mod_ariana http://www.livejournal.com/community/boob_nazis/1410852.html That's the post about boots
11:59:02 Host_Housepoet you're quick
11:59:19 Host_Housepoet ok guys, I have to officially end the chat now
11:59:30 tristyn So we'd be looking at a poster RE state law, accompanied by a letter explaining to management why this is important (e.g., look at this lawsuit, this debacle, etc.)
12:00:07 Host_Housepoet YES tristyn
12:00:17 Host_Housepoet like, here, learn how to protect YOUR company from this
12:00:22 mwalton what a great idea!
12:00:26 Host_Housepoet and gain the respect and customers
12:00:33 Host_Housepoet of breastfeeding mothers
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