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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #10
8/24/05

8 mamas in attendance

11:06:02 mummoth hi mwalton
11:06:15 mwalton hi
11:06:38 mwalton guess there's not an advocacy chat today?
11:06:40 mummoth havee you been to this chat before? does it usually start late?
11:06:49 mwalton yes, and nope usually right on time
11:08:45 mummoth darn! I was really hoping to hear some good positive pro-breastfeeding stuff too!
11:09:58 mwalton well i can tell you about the nurse in we had 2 weeks ago :)
11:10:38 mwalton and you can always check out http://www.breastfeedingisnormal.org
11:11:36 mummoth sure!
11:12:11 mwalton well there was a business here locally that kicked out a nursing mom (with security even!) even though the law protected her
11:12:19 mummoth my sister had a baby girl yesterday! My first neice! My kids' first cousin!
11:12:32 mummoth wow!
11:12:58 mwalton so a group of us organized a nurse in..we realized soon that we weren't going to get the numbers we wanted...so we did a modified nurse in/nurse out kinda
11:13:36 mwalton we wrote a letter to the management about how they had broken the law and we hoped it was just in ignorance and provided them with flyers about the law and reasons to breastfeed as well as a nice sign that said breastfeeding mothers welcome here""
11:13:40 mwalton then we went there
11:13:48 mwalton nursed, and presented the packet to management
11:14:00 mummoth how did it go over?
11:14:32 mwalton really well, they were really nice about it, i left on vacation 2 days later and just got back so i have to go and see if they put up the sign
11:14:48 mwalton also we asked for a response in writing and i need to contact my coorganizer who was their contact point to respond to
11:15:34 mwalton but either way they can no longer claim ignorance of the law :)
11:15:46 mummoth thats true!
11:16:26 mwalton and since the coorganizer and i just met a bunch of great people at an antiwar ralley on monday our next nurse in should it be required won't be so quiet :)
11:16:28 mummoth that sounds like it went great!
11:16:41 mummoth lol
11:17:25 mwalton yep..it did :)
11:18:16 Host_Housepoet Hello all
11:18:19 Host_Housepoet Sorry I'm late
11:18:22 mummoth hi housepoet
11:18:26 Host_Housepoet I just got my computer up and running
11:18:36 Host_Housepoet man we rearranged the office and I screwed up our router
11:18:37 mwalton np :) we were just talking about the utah nursein
11:18:46 mwalton and how it went etc
11:18:51 Host_Housepoet had to wait until 9 am today to get a hold of tech support
11:19:01 mwalton yikes!
11:19:38 Host_Housepoet So what's up with the nurse out?
11:20:41 mwalton actually it was a modified nurse in against a local craft store that had kicked a woman out..went well..store seemed receptive..and we're waiting for a response we asked for after presenting the management with a letter and flyers about the nursing law for
11:20:44 mwalton their employees
11:21:48 mwalton what was cool was even though our numbers were small we had the full range of nursing moms..even some extended nursers with toddlers..so it went well
11:22:10 Host_Housepoet wow
11:22:13 Host_Housepoet that's really awesome
11:22:22 Host_Housepoet will you write up a full story so we can have it on BFIN
11:22:23 mwalton and my kidlet was much more cooperative than usual..sleeping until right before we went in and then being ravenous when it was time to go
11:22:33 Host_Housepoet haha
11:22:57 mwalton guess he's a born protester ;)  (he did well at a different ralley here on monday too)
11:23:35 mummoth lol my dd would be grat at a nurse in--- shes going through a 'yummy noises' phase
11:24:27 mwalton and sure i'll write something up..it may take me a couple days..just got back from my parents place in oregon (left 2 days after the nurse in) and i'm way behind on just about everything
11:25:02 Host_Housepoet that's fine
11:25:05 Host_Housepoet we're all behind schedule here
11:25:12 Host_Housepoet I start school full time on monday again
11:25:23 mwalton good for you!  good luck on the semester
11:25:28 Host_Housepoet so I will actually be more into this again, since I will be on a schedule
11:25:30 Host_Housepoet aww thank you
11:25:32 buzzy_bee Good luck !
11:25:36 Host_Housepoet I want to keep my 4.0 going right now
11:25:40 buzzy_bee And hi all
11:25:49 Host_Housepoet I passed a class with an A this summer that I've tried 6 times to pass and never have
11:25:54 Host_Housepoet so I think Im on the right track"
11:25:56 Host_Housepoet Hello Bee
11:25:56 mummoth hi buzzy!
11:26:03 mwalton well 6th times the charm i guess ;)
11:26:19 buzzy_bee I was supposed to be writing a paper this afternoon
11:26:24 buzzy_bee L's first afternoon at nursery
11:26:36 buzzy_bee But I was beside myself he wasn't any good and jumpy so didn't get any work done
11:26:54 mwalton whereas he was probably really calm right?
11:27:06 buzzy_bee Well, apparently he was grumpy but not crying
11:27:18 buzzy_bee Had he cried they'd have phoned
11:27:21 buzzy_bee And he refused his EBM
11:27:33 buzzy_bee But was not dive bombing my chest when I picked him up so was clearly not that hungry
11:28:25 buzzy_bee Then of course he actually had a little EBM from *me* when we got home
11:28:31 buzzy_bee So who knows what was up there
11:30:17 Janice hello all is this the breastfeedingisnormal wednesday chat?
11:30:42 Mod_ariana yes
11:30:54 Janice pretty queit today?
11:31:03 Host_Housepoet We're a tad behind schedule today since one of our hosts had computer issues last night
11:31:08 Host_Housepoet she just got them fixed this morning
11:31:12 Host_Housepoet that would be me :)
11:31:36 Janice oh, it figures.  Just when I'm finally able to take part!
11:31:58 Host_Housepoet heh. Yes I rearranged our office and screwed up the router
11:32:02 Host_Housepoet I just got it fixed this morning
11:32:22 Host_Housepoet Well one topic is the site
11:32:24 Janice don't scare me - my email was screwed up for 2 weeks, I thought I had a virus
11:32:49 Host_Housepoet still in production, as you all know, we don't want to announce that it is up prematurely
11:32:49 Janice I just glanced at the site.
11:32:53 Host_Housepoet oh no
11:32:58 Host_Housepoet that is scary
11:33:08 Host_Housepoet we still have a little ways to go
11:33:16 Janice scary yes i must be more regular on my backups
11:33:38 Host_Housepoet but one fun thing that is happening is that we are in talks with a nursing bra mfgr in Brazil who makes custom nursing bras and tanks
11:33:55 Host_Housepoet she is really interested in making a BFIN colored bra to show suuport for the site
11:33:56 Janice I just wanted to say that I'm back from all my holidays, and trying to figure out what I can/will do in the next year.
11:33:59 Host_Housepoet we're talking about tanks as well too
11:34:10 Host_Housepoet oh that's wonderful Janice
11:34:15 Host_Housepoet hope you had a great holiday
11:34:49 mwalton sounds great (re:clothing) good way to make a little money and to get the word out
11:35:05 Host_Housepoet exactly
11:35:07 Janice I have to present to a Federal Gov't Commission on Labour Standards in Sept, then I can focus on other things.
11:35:15 Host_Housepoet she is going to put our flyers in all her orders
11:35:24 Host_Housepoet I just have to actually create the flyers
11:35:25 mwalton fantastic!
11:35:42 Host_Housepoet the great thing about this site is that they sell regular bras, in your 'normal' sizes
11:35:44 Mod_ariana Well you're great at making flyers so that should work well.  :)
11:35:50 Janice We will be asking to new Labour Standards to support bfing for working moms (this is Canada, though - sorry you Americans!)
11:35:52 Host_Housepoet but they also will work with anyone to make a custom size bra
11:35:58 Host_Housepoet and it's BEAUTIFUL work too
11:36:09 mwalton janice:not fair you guys always get better laws than us first ;)
11:36:16 Host_Housepoet oh that's great
11:36:22 buzzy_bee Janice have you looked at the UK provisions by way of contrast?
11:36:32 Janice Yes, we can lead the way and show you guys what can be done!
11:37:05 buzzy_bee BF is covered by Health & Safety at Work legislation here
11:37:12 buzzy_bee From the point of view of preventing mastitis
11:37:15 Host_Housepoet Yes, one of our goals is to have laws in every state in the US within the next ten years
11:37:27 Janice I have a chart that shows provisions in various countries around the world, including UK, US, & Europe.  But I need to look at more specifics
11:37:52 buzzy_bee Employers must provide a secure clean room with seating and a fridge for pumping
11:38:02 buzzy_bee (i.e. not a toilet)