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11:06:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hello and welcome to another exciting edition of the
Breastfeedingisnormal.org chat on advocacy. I’m your
hostess with the mostess, Noel Pickett, infamously known
as the housepoet on livejournal. My co host partner in
crime is the lovely Arianamama, who is sweet and
charming. If you have any questions, please double click
on her name and that will open a small private window
for you to chat with her in. |
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11:06:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
Agenda | Welcome | Recap of last chat | Mission
statement | The View Sucks | FTC | State Flyers | BF
101 Chat | banner exchange | We still need help! |
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11:07:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
Recap of last chat LAST FORMAL CHAT http://mommychats.com/transcripts/bfactivism10.htm |
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11:07:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
Mission Statement |
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11:07:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
Breastfeedingisnormal.org is committed to making a
positive difference in the perception of breastfeeding,
to making the practice of breastfeeding normal" again in
our society, and to replacing the onslaught of infant
formula found in today's media with breastfeeding
education and resources. Through political advocacy,
Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes governmental support
and protection of breastfeeding mothers and their
children. Through education and support,
Breastfeedingisnormal.org promotes healthy alternatives
to formula use, encourages new mothers to begin and
continue breastfeeding, gives mothers the confidence to
nurse their children in public, and gives society the
understanding that breastfeeding is normal." |
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11:07:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
OK! |
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11:08:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hey everyone. :) |
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11:08:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
I hope everyone is having a fine morning. |
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11:08:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
In case you missed it...the View is at it again |
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11:08:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=335251&page=1&pp=20 |
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11:08:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
Apparently on a show this week, they gave a nursing mom
of quads, a years supply of formula! |
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11:08:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
horray! |
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11:08:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
sarcasm |
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11:09:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
thoughts? words? |
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11:09:34 |
Darcy |
I think if I had 4 kids I'd rather have a free laundry
service. |
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11:09:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
there are no plans for a nurse out there again, but it
just really goes to show you the kind of scociety we're
living in doesn't it? |
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11:09:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
I agree |
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11:09:53 |
Chandar |
From my understanding they also gave a mom of a single
baby the same thing. |
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11:09:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
someone rightfully quipped that she could sell the
formula on ebay and buy cloth diapers |
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11:10:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
well now, isn't that just lovely. |
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11:10:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
I unfor...fortunetly....?? don't have a TV so I didn't
get to see the show |
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11:10:41 |
kbayfeld |
Hi, new at chatting, but wanted to try it out-I'm from
Phoenix and part of AZ Lactivists group |
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11:10:51 |
Chandar |
BTW I am Chandra, Chandar from Mothering, and am in AZ
franticaly working with other wonderful women on the
legislative front. |
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11:10:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
Imagine if the View used their celebrity to ask mothers
to come to a milk bank and donate milk. |
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11:10:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
wouldn't that have been great |
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11:11:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
Hello and welcome! |
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11:11:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
Kbay - did you get the email to the list? |
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11:11:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
about the chat today? |
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11:11:38 |
kbayfeld |
yes |
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11:11:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
awesome |
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11:11:50 |
kbayfeld |
Hey, Chandra-it's Karen |
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11:11:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
I wonder why I haven't gotten it yet |
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11:11:58 |
Chandar |
Hi Karen! |
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11:12:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
well chan, I really wanted you to talk about what is
going on in AZ |
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11:12:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
but I want to wait until we have a few more chatters in
here |
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11:12:28 |
Chandar |
Karen can talk a lot about it as well. |
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11:12:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
last week, we picked up around the half way mark |
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11:12:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
well then by all means |
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11:12:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm glad you're both in here |
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11:12:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'll jus continue on with my agenda until I feel there
is enough people |
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11:12:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok, so what's next here |
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11:13:02 |
Chandar |
We have had 2 meetings with different state legislators,
and have received some truly helpful feedback |
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11:13:02 |
kbayfeld |
sounds good |
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11:13:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's amazing. |
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11:13:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
Are you all keeping track of what you are doing...so
that other states, and advocates can copy your work? |
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11:13:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
Like a step by step plan to get laws inacted? |
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11:14:17 |
Mod_ariana |
It would be so awesome to have a guide to getting a
state law for breastfeeding on the
breastfeedingisnormal.org site! |
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11:14:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
step one: have your rights violated | step two: let the
internet know about it | step three: .... |
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11:14:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's what I'm thinking too |
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11:14:28 |
Mod_ariana |
haha |
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11:14:45 |
Mod_ariana |
But then the real work comes in, getting the legislators
on board |
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11:14:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
so very true |
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11:15:10 |
Mod_ariana |
I think it would be great to work with carolyn maloney
or someon from her office on a guide like that |
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11:15:15 |
Mod_ariana |
I bet she'd be willing to be helpful |
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11:15:21 |
Chandar |
sorry ladies dd is not cooperating very well right now |
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11:15:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
hey it happens |
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11:15:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright, we're going to move on |
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11:15:52 |
Mod_ariana |
Chandar that's the problem with mommy activism, huh? |
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11:16:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana is going to talk about the FTC complaint letters |
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11:16:30 |
Mod_ariana |
I recently received an email from the Breastfeeding Task
Force for Los Angeles
http://www.breastfeedingtaskforla.org/ |
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11:16:41 |
Mod_ariana |
(great organization by the way, here in California!) |
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11:16:53 |
Mod_ariana |
It fits in so perfectly with the goals of
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/ that I thought I’d
pass it along to you. |
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11:17:06 |
Mod_ariana |
Artificial Infant Milk Complaint Letter Writing Campaign |
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11:17:19 |
Mod_ariana |
Only when hundreds of complaints are filed, either on
line, by letter, or by telephone will the FTC take a
look at the issue. If we want to make a difference we
can inundate the FTC with complaints regarding formula
advertising. |
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11:18:04 |
Mod_ariana |
The idea is for us lactivists to make complaints to the
Federal Trade Commission regarding the marketing of
formula |
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11:18:18 |
Mod_ariana |
The Federal Trade Commission complaint form can be found
at
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 |
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11:18:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
NOTE: we will also have all this information on the
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org site later today |
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11:18:52 |
Mod_ariana |
Some of the suggested talking points for complaint on
this are: |
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11:19:21 |
Mod_ariana |
Ads are misleading mothers into purchasing formula
because * They think their baby will be smarter. |
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11:19:23 |
Mod_ariana |
* They think formula is equivalent to breastmilk. *
They think formula has breastmilk in it. |
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11:19:35 |
Mod_ariana |
* There is no warning label on the formula that states
the risks of not breastfeeding. * There is no
warning label on the powdered formula that it is not
sterile, so parents think it is safe. |
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11:20:04 |
Mod_ariana |
I think the un-sterile powdered formula one is very
important |
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11:20:26 |
Chandar |
oh yeah |
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11:20:26 |
Mod_ariana |
the AAP has come out saying it should not be given to at
risk infants unless there is no other alternative |
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11:20:29 |
Mod_ariana |
so that's a huge thing |
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11:20:44 |
Mod_ariana |
So we're working up a page for
http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/ |
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11:20:59 |
Mod_ariana |
so that people can go there and get the link to the form
and ideas on what to say |
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11:21:06 |
Hisrisingstar |
I have a question, as part of thw WHO code, it says they
cant advertise formula, but I see it advertised all the
time, how do they get around it? |
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11:21:14 |
Mod_ariana |
if anyone else has ideas of things that could be
complained about please feel free to speak out now |
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11:21:24 |
Mod_ariana |
or you can always email us at
info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:21:33 |
Hisrisingstar |
and I wrote an article on the WHO code for the site, and
still dont see it up there... was it that horrible? |
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11:21:40 |
Mod_ariana |
No. |
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11:21:47 |
Mod_ariana |
We just haven't had a chance to get it up yet |
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11:21:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
The reason that they advertise is that there isn't
anyone in the govt to enforce the code |
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11:22:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
the code is just a 'suggestion' for the US |
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11:22:01 |
Mod_ariana |
The thing with the WHO Code is that it isn't a LAW |
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11:22:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
sadly |
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11:22:13 |
Mod_ariana |
it's a guideline from the Unirted Nations |
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11:22:18 |
Mod_ariana |
World Health Organization |
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11:23:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
so the only way for people to take notice is for someone
to be elected or appointed to the govt to enforce the
who code |
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11:23:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's why it's called a CODE not a law. |
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11:23:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
and until that happens, we will continue to see formula
advertising |
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11:24:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
so that is one of the goals of BFIN |
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11:24:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
is to eventually get someone appointed to the govt to
enforce the code |
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11:24:22 |
jennebee |
no one in office is going to enforce the code unless
they have something to gain from it :( (Hi Noel!) |
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11:24:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
but we're going up against our own govt on this one |
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11:24:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
hi! :) |
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11:24:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
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11:24:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
and the formula industry has plenty to lose if the govt
enforces the code |
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11:25:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
like $600 million bucks from our own govt every year for
formula purchases for the WIC program |
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11:25:13 |
jennebee |
we need some lactavists with big money! |
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11:25:33 |
serendipitylove |
One of us just needs to win the lottery |
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11:25:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
which sends a clear message to women that our govt
supports formula more than health |
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11:25:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
I KNOW |
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11:25:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
can you imagine? |
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11:25:56 |
serendipitylove |
If I do, I'm totally calling you up Noel. |
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11:25:58 |
Darcy |
There's a follow the dollar signs" problem here - what
we need is a creative presentation of the information
that makes govt look away from the disadvantage that
pro-breastfeeding campaigning puts formula makers at." |
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11:26:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
man I would take out a front page ad in every news paper
in the us |
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11:26:49 |
jennebee |
wouldn't that be AMAZING!!! |
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11:26:51 |
serendipitylove |
I just find it sad that it takes so much money in order
to promote breastfeeding |
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11:26:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
it really wouuld |
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11:27:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
and darcy we agree with that you're saying as well |
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