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11:00:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
lovely morning for a chat eh? |
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11:00:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
lllllllllllllllllllllalalalalalallala al al al ala
lalalla alltttaaaaa lalalalal |
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11:01:02 |
flutterby77 |
hahaha |
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11:02:09 |
Mod_ariana |
I'm not sure many people are feeling the same way. ;-) |
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11:03:18 |
flutterby77 |
What happened to everyone :( |
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11:03:34 |
Mod_ariana |
Some days just don't bring in the people |
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11:03:48 |
Mod_ariana |
plus Noel can't access the mailing list today because of
background changes to the site |
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11:04:03 |
Mod_ariana |
So lots of people probably forgot |
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11:04:12 |
Mod_ariana |
Just the week that you make it. |
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11:04:14 |
Mod_ariana |
:( |
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11:04:59 |
flutterby77 |
ya :( |
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11:05:03 |
Mod_ariana |
Hi bicrim! |
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11:05:06 |
bicrim |
hi |
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11:05:08 |
flutterby77 |
I kept the twins up for a while so I could be here! |
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11:05:32 |
Mod_ariana |
I think we'll go ahead with some stuff in a little bit |
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11:05:38 |
Mod_ariana |
give people a chance to show up |
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11:05:50 |
bicrim |
nursing to sleep, hard to type |
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11:06:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
her everyone |
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11:06:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
hey, even |
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11:06:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
this is going to be a really casual chat today |
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11:06:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana is busy with home schooling work and I am swamp
with college |
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11:06:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
but that doesn't mean we can't talk about advocacy for
our hour |
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11:07:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
We just found out that breastfeedingisnormal.org is one
of three sites featured in Bust Magazine |
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11:07:08 |
flutterby77 |
Good! |
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11:07:14 |
flutterby77 |
No way! How awesome! |
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11:07:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
I know! |
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11:07:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
I have to go out and pick it up now. |
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11:07:40 |
flutterby77 |
I wonder if we get it here, never heard of it |
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11:07:42 |
Mod_ariana |
I know I want to get a copy too |
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11:08:01 |
flutterby77 |
I was wishing I had nursing notes on the weekend, two
breastfeeders in public I was so excited! lol |
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11:08:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's so cool! |
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11:09:06 |
flutterby77 |
I was out alone too, so I'm sure they thought I was some
perv leering at them |
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11:09:16 |
Mod_ariana |
Haha |
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11:09:30 |
Mod_ariana |
If I see someone looking at me I always think they're a
lactivist too |
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11:09:40 |
Mod_ariana |
or I guess I *hope* they are. ;) |
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11:09:50 |
Mod_ariana |
The thing with being mentioned in Bust Magazine |
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11:09:59 |
Mod_ariana |
is the site really isn't all together yet |
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11:10:12 |
Mod_ariana |
We really need to get some stuff cleaned up and put
together |
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11:10:17 |
Mod_ariana |
and we really need help with that |
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11:10:32 |
flutterby77 |
For sure, I will help where I can |
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11:10:46 |
Mod_ariana |
One thing we need help with |
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11:10:54 |
Mod_ariana |
is that it seems that LLL has changed up their site |
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11:11:07 |
Mod_ariana |
and we have a bunch of links to them in the
Breastfeedign Myths page |
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11:11:12 |
Mod_ariana |
so now they're dead links |
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11:11:17 |
flutterby77 |
Oh no!! |
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11:11:17 |
Mod_ariana |
which I REALLY HATE |
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11:11:22 |
flutterby77 |
Me too! |
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11:11:29 |
Mod_ariana |
It's a BIG pet peeve of mine |
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11:11:29 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
sorry i'm late |
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11:11:35 |
Mod_ariana |
HI sugarcoated_poison_apple ! |
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11:11:39 |
flutterby77 |
Hi! |
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11:11:41 |
Mod_ariana |
We started late so it's not a big thing |
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11:11:46 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
okies |
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11:11:52 |
anngwish42 |
I can probably track down/fix the dead links today. |
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11:12:02 |
Mod_ariana |
anngwish42 you're my hero |
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11:12:05 |
Mod_ariana |
I love you |
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11:12:06 |
flutterby77 |
YAY! |
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11:12:19 |
Mod_ariana |
If you could do that it'd be awesome (I'm showing my
80's roots) |
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11:12:25 |
flutterby77 |
I really need to get flyers, I go out every weekend I
need to start doing it |
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11:12:38 |
anngwish42 |
Also: http://hmbana.com/index.htm - and you're only
showing your 80's roots if you say rad"" |
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11:12:50 |
Mod_ariana |
I was thinking gnarly |
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11:12:53 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
cool beans, man ... heehee |
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11:13:10 |
Mod_ariana |
The thing is I know you all are significantly younger
than I am |
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11:13:14 |
anngwish42 |
But yeah, last week you guys were asking about milk
donation info, and there's the Human Milk Banking
Association of North America's website |
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11:13:21 |
Mod_ariana |
cool |
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11:14:08 |
Mod_ariana |
http://hmbana.com/donations.htm |
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11:14:12 |
Mod_ariana |
Thsi is a good page there |
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11:14:38 |
Mod_ariana |
We can link to that to give people a start at the idea
of donating |
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11:15:21 |
flutterby77 |
Wow! I wish I could donate. |
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11:15:26 |
anngwish42 |
It has a nice clickable map with the locations of the
milk banks |
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11:16:07 |
Mod_ariana |
I've never been one to produce for a pump |
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11:16:13 |
Mod_ariana |
but I bet if I worked at it more... |
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11:16:17 |
flutterby77 |
Me either. |
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11:16:23 |
flutterby77 |
TRUE |
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11:16:25 |
anngwish42 |
The woman I know at the Christiana Milk Bank says they
just print stuff off that website for general donation
guidelines etc. |
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11:16:30 |
Mod_ariana |
But I think they don't usually like donators with babies
over 1 |
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11:16:35 |
Mod_ariana |
So over 2 is doubtful |
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11:16:46 |
Mod_ariana |
That's good |
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11:16:57 |
anngwish42 |
The actual milk donation guidelines at Christiana's milk
bank are like 2 pages long, you have to fill out a
questionnaire as long as you do for giving blood. |
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11:17:04 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i produce really well for a pump but i'm only making
enough milk right now for amorette ... i tried to
increase my supply to help someone out, but i failed |
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11:17:21 |
Mod_ariana |
awww, that's too bad, sugarcoated_poison_apple. |
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11:17:25 |
Mod_ariana |
But it was sweet of you to try |
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11:17:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
you didn't fail |
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11:17:38 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
you can just call me alison, ou know ... less work. ^_^ |
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11:17:43 |
Mod_ariana |
haha |
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11:17:54 |
Mod_ariana |
What I usually do is just click your name in the chat
screen |
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11:18:00 |
Mod_ariana |
so then it's even less work than Alison |
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11:18:03 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, i think i would have been able to do it if i
wasn't working ... it's hard enough to manage her 4
bottles every day |
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11:18:09 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
aahhhhh |
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11:18:29 |
kristenandmadeleine |
hello |
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11:18:32 |
Mod_ariana |
I'm all about shortcuts |
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11:18:36 |
Mod_ariana |
Hello kristenandmadeleine |
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11:18:46 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I'm new to this chat. |
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11:18:53 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
welcome |
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11:18:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
welcome |
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11:19:01 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
^_^ |
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11:19:13 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and a new mummy! :bf |
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11:19:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
yay! |
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11:19:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
congrats! |
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11:19:26 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yay for new babies |
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11:19:28 |
kristenandmadeleine |
thanks! |
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11:19:31 |
flutterby77 |
Congratulations |
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11:19:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
do you have any questions we could help you out with? |
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11:19:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
we're having a very informal chat today |
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11:19:54 |
kristenandmadeleine |
Madeleine Isabella is 6 weeks on Friday. and we are
exclusively breastfeeding. and doing quite the
wonderful job i might say |
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11:20:16 |
Mod_ariana |
kristenandmadeleine 6 weeks of exclusive BF is a
wonderful job!! |
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11:20:36 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I see this advertised on the BF'ng LJ comminuty I post
on |
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11:20:49 |
Mod_ariana |
what's your LJ name? |
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11:20:52 |
kristenandmadeleine |
Ariana, I must say, we have been very lucky |
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11:20:55 |
kristenandmadeleine |
jellho |
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11:21:08 |
kristenandmadeleine |
breastfeeding has been extremely easy and came very
natural to us |
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11:21:10 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
oh, hey jellho ^_^ i recognize you now |
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11:21:27 |
kristenandmadeleine |
whats your name? |
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11:21:39 |
Mod_ariana |
I'm arianamama |
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11:21:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm housepoet |
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11:21:59 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i'm sugarpoisonappl |
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11:22:20 |
kristenandmadeleine |
hahahaha, i should have noticed the names hahaha but i
reckognize you guys haha |
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11:22:35 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, we're all so cool |
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11:22:37 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i have pregnancy brain still |
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11:22:54 |
Mod_ariana |
More than 2 years later and I still have pregnancy brain |
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11:22:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha, hey I have a two year old and I have pregnancy
brain |
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11:23:00 |
Mod_ariana |
I think it's become permanent |
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11:23:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
well, I think it's turned into lactation brain |
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11:23:08 |
kristenandmadeleine |
hahaha |
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11:23:14 |
kristenandmadeleine |
our brains go out with the milk |
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11:23:26 |
Mod_ariana |
That's why BF babies have higher IQs, hahahaahah |
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11:23:36 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my baby had her ped appointment today. i love them.
she is getting soo big |
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11:23:37 |
flutterby77 |
How true is that! |
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11:23:51 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i've just never really been all there to begin with ...
i don't need a pregnancy/lactation brain to help me |
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11:23:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's fantastic |
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11:24:00 |
kristenandmadeleine |
its true. little one was picking up her head at 2 weeks
and smiling at 3 weeks |
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11:24:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
you like your ped? |
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11:24:03 |
Mod_ariana |
kristenandmadeleine if you have a good ped be sure to
put him/her on the breastfeeding blacklist |
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11:24:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
awwww |
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11:24:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
I was just about to say that |
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11:24:14 |
kristenandmadeleine |
its true. little one was picking up her head at 2 weeks
and smiling at 3 weeks |
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11:24:22 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
awww |
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11:24:25 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i LOVE my new ped |
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11:24:32 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.livejournal.com/community/naturalfamily/232579.html |
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11:24:39 |
Mod_ariana |
That's where you can enter the info for now |
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11:24:39 |
kristenandmadeleine |
today was our first appointment. i had to change. the
one i had before was just atrocious |
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11:24:44 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
my baby and i have the same family practice doctor. she
rocks |
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11:24:46 |
kristenandmadeleine |
will do! |
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11:24:53 |
Mod_ariana |
hopefully very soon it'll all be up on the
www.breastfeedingisnormal.org website |
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11:25:07 |
Mod_ariana |
We have very talented people working behind the scenes
to get that in place |
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11:25:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's a lot of work |
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11:25:31 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my friend referred me to my OB/midwife office and I just
fell in love with them. so i figured her taste in ped's
was just as good and it was |
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11:25:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
but it's coming along |
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11:25:54 |
kristenandmadeleine |
thats awesome. i havent ever been to that web site. i
gotta check it out |
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11:26:20 |
Mod_ariana |
There's still a lot of work to do on the site, so if
anyone wants to help out we're accepting volunteers |
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11:26:31 |
kristenandmadeleine |
normally when i am online i am nursing so i just browse
LJ. so ill check it out now. i can do more than one
web site at a time |
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11:26:42 |
kristenandmadeleine |
im a SATM so I might be able too |
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11:26:48 |
abs559 |
good morning |
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11:26:56 |
kristenandmadeleine |
good morning abs. |
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11:26:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
morning abs559 |
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11:26:58 |
flutterby77 |
Morning! |
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11:27:05 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
hallo and welcome |
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11:27:09 |
Mod_ariana |
hi abs559 |
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11:27:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes I was a WAHM but now Im in college full time too |
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11:27:20 |
kristenandmadeleine |
So, where is everyone located. Im in the Tampa Bay area |
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11:27:21 |
abs559 |
what kind of work needs done? |
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11:27:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
so all my work on the site comes in spurts, nap times
and late night hours |
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11:27:30 |
Mod_ariana |
We need articles written |
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11:27:32 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i'm from central new york |
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11:27:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes |
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11:27:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
lots of them |
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11:27:36 |
abs559 |
Fresno,CA |
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11:27:39 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I would LOVE to write articles |
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11:27:45 |
Mod_ariana |
oh, I'm in los angeles |
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11:27:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
We just found out that we are going to be featured in
Bust Magazine |
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11:27:54 |
Jenivere |
Southern Idaho |
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11:27:56 |
kristenandmadeleine |
awesome!!! |
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11:27:58 |
bicrim |
nj |
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11:28:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh fresno?! |
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11:28:04 |
Jenivere |
that's great! |
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11:28:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
you're on the best coast with the rest of us. |
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11:28:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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11:28:20 |
abs559 |
:) |
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11:28:20 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I have a friend that was a breastfeeding champ. let me
tell her about you needing articles. she was fantastic
and such a help to me |
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11:28:21 |
Mod_ariana |
Here's some of the articles we really want |
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11:28:30 |
Mod_ariana |
Powdered formula risks - coming soon Alternatives to
formula - coming soon |
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11:28:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm in Santa Barbara, I used to live about 2 blocks from
Ariana in LA, but sadly we didn't know one another then |
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11:28:36 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I'm origonally from vegas |
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11:28:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
we love when people submit articles |
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11:28:56 |
Mod_ariana |
WHO code violations - coming soon Formula advertising
images - coming soon Formula marketing to doctors -
coming soon Hospital Gift Bags - coming soon
Baby/Parenting Magazines and formula advertising -
coming soon |
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11:28:58 |
abs559 |
I was raised in Ventura so I know SB well |
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11:29:12 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i miss the west coast and the mountains. i HATE florida |
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11:30:37 |
abs559 |
not sure I could leave it |
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11:30:40 |
anngwish42 |
Damn, I should really write about hospital gift bags -
after all the drama acidbathgirl started with me over
them a few monhs back... |
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11:31:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh yes, you would write a great article about that now
wouldn't you. ;) |
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11:31:12 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my hospital, god bless them i love them and they are
VERY pro breast feeding, gave me a bag ful of formula
samples |
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11:31:30 |
kristenandmadeleine |
but my ped today gave me a book on breastfeeding |
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11:31:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
I love the whole comparison to, a weight loss paticent
being sent home with a big mac |
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11:31:37 |
kristenandmadeleine |
the aap book on breastfeeding |
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11:32:12 |
Mod_ariana |
If you have any idea on an article you want to write,
just go for it. |
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11:32:24 |
Mod_ariana |
Anything related to breastfeeding we could probably use
somewhere on the site |
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11:32:38 |
abs559 |
all my children are past breast feeding but I still
remember:) |
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11:32:48 |
Mod_ariana |
Just email it to info@breastfeedingisnormal.org |
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11:33:54 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i know this is silly, but the other day i was nursing
the baby and almost had a panic attack thinking about
when i would eventually wean her. |
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11:34:11 |
Jenivere |
I don't think that is all that silly |
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11:34:22 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i had such a hard time gettting over not being pregnant
that the thought of her weaning makes me ill ha! |
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11:34:23 |
abs559 |
I had one that was a tongue thruster could not get her
to breastfeed had to bottle feed :( very emotional for
me but it was best for her to bottle feed |
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11:34:26 |
Jenivere |
I can't imagine not having a nursing babe |
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11:34:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
I've had that panic attack before too |
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11:34:55 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my delivery was soo tramatic that breastfeeding was the
only natural thing i could do for her |
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11:35:06 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i never got to bond at birth |
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11:35:21 |
abs559 |
how old is you baby Kristine? |
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11:35:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes, it's a tough situation |
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11:35:33 |
kristenandmadeleine |
so for the first week she was home she was either in my
arms nursing or in my arms sleeping |
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11:35:37 |
kristenandmadeleine |
6 weeks on friday |
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11:36:08 |
abs559 |
and you are worried about weaning already? |
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11:36:10 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i had placental abruption and had to have a very needed
emergency c section and i was natural at that point so
we didnt have time for a spinal so i had to be put under |
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11:36:34 |
kristenandmadeleine |
abs- well when the time comes. i plan on doing it for
at least a year |
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11:36:52 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i was sitting there nursing my baby to sleep the other
night, and i found myself thinking, i have absolutely no
idea how people manage to get babies to sleep if they're
not breastfeeding ... i mean obviously people do it, but
i can't fathom doing it myself |
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11:37:11 |
abs559 |
I breat fes my 2 oldest till they were 18 mo and the
youngest 6mo |
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11:37:22 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and i had hemmoraged so badly i needed 2 units of blood
and couldnt see her or hold her until 15 hours later |
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11:37:23 |
Mod_ariana |
sugarcoated_poison_apple I know what you mean |
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11:37:32 |
Mod_ariana |
It's like why would you take that tool out of your bag? |
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11:37:40 |
Mod_ariana |
Nursing to sleep is the easiest thing |
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11:37:45 |
Mod_ariana |
and good for mom and baby |
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11:37:48 |
kristenandmadeleine |
baby and you both go to sleep! |
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11:37:52 |
abs559 |
yes especially for mommy |
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11:38:01 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i just roll over and shove the boobie in and off to la
la land |
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11:38:08 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i love snuggling my baby at night |
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11:38:10 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
heehee |
|
11:38:11 |
Mod_ariana |
Sometimes I plan to get up after baby falls asleep |
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11:38:18 |
Jenivere |
i can't imagine parenting small children without
breastfeeding |
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11:38:20 |
Mod_ariana |
but then I'm just so tired and relaxed I say forget it"" |
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11:38:32 |
Jenivere |
me to! |
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11:38:38 |
Jenivere |
it always makes me tired |
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11:38:46 |
kristenandmadeleine |
it doesnt with me |
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11:38:46 |
Mod_ariana |
those feel good hormones |
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11:38:56 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
if she'll go down, i put her in the crib a little while
before i go to bed ... then i just get her if she wakes
up and bring her to bed |
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11:38:57 |
Mod_ariana |
kristenandmadeleine give it time |
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11:39:03 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i felt it at first. but now i dont feel the milk high
anymore or my let down anymore |
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11:39:14 |
abs559 |
I use to make it a point with my 3rd to bottle feed in
my arms as if I were breastfeeding |
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11:39:24 |
kristenandmadeleine |
abs thats goo |
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11:39:26 |
kristenandmadeleine |
good |
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11:39:31 |
Jenivere |
my bil put my 20 month to sleep on his shoulder the
other day and then laid her down. She stayed asleep |
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11:39:39 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
awww |
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11:39:47 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my babe sleeps anywhere and with anyone |
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11:40:02 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
amorette will fall asleep on her daddy but she almost
always wakes up when he tries to lay her down |
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11:40:02 |
Jenivere |
it made me a little sad but it was cool too |
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11:40:07 |
abs559 |
what a good baby |
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11:40:18 |
kristenandmadeleine |
she's been sick though lately, she caught a wee bit of a
cold. so my normally good sleeping baby became a zombie |
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11:40:57 |
kristenandmadeleine |
these past two days she finally settle back into the
little schedule she has for herself |
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11:41:07 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
amorette has been resisting sleep like crazy during the
day ... she's 6 months old now, and maybe will nap a
total of about 2 hours during the day, if were lucky.
she also stays up until past 10 or 11 most nights. |
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11:41:23 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my babe was doing that too sugar. |
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11:41:35 |
kristenandmadeleine |
which is completely unlike her |
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11:41:36 |
abs559 |
sugar what time does she wake up? |
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11:41:43 |
Jenivere |
em (20 months) is teething and just got over a cold.
naps have been sporadic at best |
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11:41:54 |
kristenandmadeleine |
have you guys heard of rescue remedy? |
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11:41:58 |
Jenivere |
yep |
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11:42:05 |
kristenandmadeleine |
have you tried that? |
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11:42:14 |
Jenivere |
no |
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11:42:16 |
Jenivere |
I forgot I had it |
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11:42:20 |
abs559 |
new term for me |
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11:42:22 |
kristenandmadeleine |
maybe that would help |
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11:42:33 |
Jenivere |
bach's flower remedies |
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11:42:33 |
kristenandmadeleine |
rescue remedy is a bach flower essence |
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11:42:36 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
usually between 7 and 7:30, she'll wake up on her own. i
have to get up between 7:30 and 8 to be at work by 9 |
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11:42:45 |
kristenandmadeleine |
its GREAT for calming people down |
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11:42:49 |
alphapythia |
Hey guys- sorry ive missed so many chats recently, work
and baby both have been super demanding recently |
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11:42:51 |
kristenandmadeleine |
babies, adults, dogs |
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11:42:53 |
abs559 |
ahhhhh |
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11:42:57 |
Jenivere |
I never thought to use it during teething |
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11:42:59 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I took it throughout my pregnancy |
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11:43:06 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and right before i went in for labor |
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11:43:08 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i've never heard of it |
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11:43:13 |
Jenivere |
I prtty much miss all chats |
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11:43:17 |
Jenivere |
always forget till they are over |
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11:43:21 |
kristenandmadeleine |
it got me through the scariest time of my life
delivering her |
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11:43:42 |
abs559 |
wow I bet |
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11:43:45 |
kristenandmadeleine |
you just put like 4 drops under your tongue and it just
calms you down without making you feel anything |
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11:43:59 |
kristenandmadeleine |
its great for labor and delivery |
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11:44:23 |
Jenivere |
I was very luckt to have two undramatic births, one at
home |
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11:44:29 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and great for fussy babies. i need to pick up some. i
didnt even think about it until today when i was at the
ped's office. i asked her about it. even though i knew
it was alright. i still wanted to ask |
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11:44:53 |
kristenandmadeleine |
Jenivere, I figure there is always next time for a
better going birth |
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11:45:01 |
abs559 |
I wonder how that would work with women with hormone
imbalances |
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11:45:11 |
kristenandmadeleine |
I got very depressed after my c section. |
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11:45:23 |
kristenandmadeleine |
it took me 3 weeks to get over crying everytime i would
nurse |
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11:45:32 |
Jenivere |
That is true |
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11:45:39 |
Jenivere |
my first was not real wonderful |
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11:45:42 |
Jenivere |
just not traumatic |
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11:45:45 |
kristenandmadeleine |
yeah |
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11:45:51 |
Jenivere |
I made sure things were different the second time |
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11:45:52 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and its sad too |
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11:45:55 |
kristenandmadeleine |
thats great |
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11:46:09 |
kristenandmadeleine |
see, i had fantastic midwife and doc who delivered me |
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11:46:29 |
alphapythia |
really? i had a planned homebirth and eneded up with a
c- but it didnt bother me at all-- i have a theory about
that though... did you feel like your c-section was
nessesary and that you were in controll of making the
call, or did you feel like you werent |
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11:46:50 |
kristenandmadeleine |
soo supportive of natural deliveries. but thank god
they were there. because it truely was an emergency and
what medical intervention should be used for |
|
11:47:00 |
alphapythia |
allowed to and/or were pushed by drs |
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11:47:02 |
alphapythia |
? |
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11:47:03 |
Jenivere |
I think if I new it was really needed then I could
handle something like that |
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11:47:18 |
kristenandmadeleine |
it was truely needed. my placenta tore away and i
hemmoraged |
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11:47:30 |
Jenivere |
that's scary |
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11:47:32 |
alphapythia |
well there goes my theroy then :) ah well thanks |
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11:47:34 |
kristenandmadeleine |
as i was walking to the birthing suite i knew something
was wrong |
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11:47:37 |
abs559 |
then it was the best thing for you and baby |
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11:48:02 |
kristenandmadeleine |
so i asked for an epi(which i didnt want or need at the
time) because i knew the midwife would break my water
right then and there. if not, we werent going to break
it unless labor stalled |
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11:48:04 |
alphapythia |
my theory was women have more problems dealing with c's
ift they are unsure it was nessesary |
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11:48:06 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i thought my first was pretty ok, though not as i
planned ... then i came to my senses and realized how
much unnecessary intervention there was, and i got
pissed off about it. they scared me into an epidural by
threatening a c-section because i was tired. |
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11:48:10 |
jbarbie23 |
were you being induced or augmented? |
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11:48:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
they did the same to me |
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11:48:38 |
kristenandmadeleine |
ohh yeah. and i understood the need for the c section.
it was more about being knocked out and not seeing her
for 15 hours |
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11:48:51 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i felt wsoo unattached from her. |
|
11:49:03 |
Jenivere |
I would be really pissed if that happend to me |
|
11:49:14 |
alphapythia |
(my baby's herat rate totally lost stabilazation when i
was only at 3 cen after 12 hours :/ it was terrifing- im
glad you and baby are ok, i know how you feel) |
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11:49:15 |
Mod_ariana |
I felt unattached after my c-section too and I had a
more or less planned c-section |
|
11:49:29 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i didnt bond with her. and they had given me 2 units of
blood(which was why i couldnt see her. I was too sick
to be wheeled into the NICU to see her and she couldnt
get off her monirtors) |
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11:49:31 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
amorette was all natural tho, and i felt so much better
during the whole thing, because i knew so much more and
i could make informed decisions instead of just nodding
and smiling |
|
11:50:05 |
Jenivere |
with jacob they took him for a 1/2 hour and htey litterl
pulled the placenta out immedietly after birth |
|
11:50:10 |
alphapythia |
hrm yeah- helps that i wasnt knocked out i guess- they
had enough time to get a spinal in |
|
11:50:10 |
jbarbie23 |
kristenandmadeleine, were you being given Pitocin or
cervadil/cytotec? bc those are associated with abruptio
placenta... |
|
11:50:19 |
Jenivere |
but em was at home and I held her immedietly and noone
rushed anything' |
|
11:50:23 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i gave my midwife and OB consent to do anything they saw
fit with my baby and I. I trusted them that much |
|
11:50:39 |
kristenandmadeleine |
No, I went into labor at 11.50 on my due date |
|
11:50:41 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i can't imagine going through that, it must have felt
awful ... it's awesome that you're breastfeeding after
c-section, tho, i know a lot of people get discouraged
and give it up |
|
11:51:02 |
kristenandmadeleine |
got to the hospital at 2am. i was 1 cm. i walked
around for 20 minuted was checked again and was 4 cm |
|
11:51:26 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i was admitted at 5.30 at 5-6 cm |
|
11:51:51 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i walked to my room felt something was wrong. had my
water broken at 5.50 and i was delivered at 6.16am |
|
11:52:12 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
when i had my second they helped me catch her and i
brought her up to my chest ... i ended up being naked
too so it was immediate skin-to-skin contact. they put a
blanket over us and did her initial exam right there on
my chest, and i put her to the breast |
|
11:52:26 |
kristenandmadeleine |
sugar- i even started breastfeeding with my daughter.
she wasnt allowed to feed for two days. so i started
with a pump |
|
11:52:27 |
jbarbie23 |
at least you don't have to look back and wonder if it
could have been prevented... that's an awful feeling. |
|
11:52:40 |
kristenandmadeleine |
jbarbie, it was what c sections are there for |
|
11:52:50 |
kristenandmadeleine |
we both would have died had i not had one |
|
11:53:06 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i lost a ton of blood and baby swallowed almost a pound
of it |
|
11:53:09 |
Jenivere |
I wish they were only used in times like that |
|
11:53:13 |
kristenandmadeleine |
yeah |
|
11:53:18 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, i agree |
|
11:53:21 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my caretakers saved my life |
|
11:53:24 |
jbarbie23 |
but also it wasn't caused by something they did, which
is really common. so you don't have to wonder 'what-if' |
|
11:53:30 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and my baby's |
|
11:53:33 |
kristenandmadeleine |
yeah |
|
11:53:44 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i can't fathom how people choose to have a c-section
when it's not necessary, but i'm so glad they can use it
to save lives |
|
11:53:49 |
kristenandmadeleine |
see what i think was the problem was that the ultrasound
tech pegged me two weeks behind my LMP |
|
11:53:53 |
anngwish42 |
kristenandmadeline, your birth was almost the same as
mine |
|
11:54:04 |
jbarbie23 |
lots of times those things could have been avoided, but
since you weren't being messed with, you don't have that
nagging wonder. |
|
11:54:11 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i delivered at 42w1d and not 40w1d |
|
11:54:19 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
oh wow |
|
11:54:28 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i think my placenta had gotten old and started to
disintergrate |
|
11:54:35 |
kristenandmadeleine |
but it couldnt be helped. |
|
11:54:39 |
jbarbie23 |
that's great |
|
11:55:00 |
alphapythia |
it is very dissapointing to end up in the medical model
when you are well infomred and fight so hard against it-
then again, i thank god c-sections exsist every day now-
my baby had postdue syndrome and her heart was giving
out in there- |
|
11:55:22 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and im okay with that. but it was just that after
everything, i found out we could have died. then being
knocked out. then not being able to take her home with
me. god i just paniked |
|
11:55:25 |
jbarbie23 |
it doesn't disintegrate; it just begins to calcify -
that happens very early on, though, not at 40 weeks. It
is a process, not an expiration date kind of thing |
|
11:55:26 |
kristenandmadeleine |
ohh jeez alpha |
|
11:55:37 |
alphapythia |
sometiems it's just nessesary- and its easy to forget
that when you are all excitdd and gung ho about natural
birth (which i still am an advocate of) |
|
11:55:40 |
kristenandmadeleine |
ahh. thanks for clarifying jbarbie |
|
11:55:59 |
kristenandmadeleine |
but, luckily, i am a great canidate for a VBAC |
|
11:56:20 |
jbarbie23 |
definitely - does your MW do vbacs |
|
11:56:23 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my pregnancy was beautiful. i gained a pound. no GD no
swelling or pre e |
|
11:56:25 |
kristenandmadeleine |
ohh yeah |
|
11:56:28 |
kristenandmadeleine |
they hate c sections |
|
11:56:42 |
kristenandmadeleine |
een the ob, dr mceil hates to intervine |
|
11:56:45 |
kristenandmadeleine |
even* |
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11:56:49 |
alphapythia |
they let me see my palcenta- i can testify to the
calcification- wow! mine was more calcium than goo! |
|
11:56:52 |
jbarbie23 |
were you overweight when you conceived? |
|
11:57:10 |
jbarbie23 |
hehe - it's funny-looking, isn't it? |
|
11:57:10 |
kristenandmadeleine |
yep |
|
11:57:24 |
kristenandmadeleine |
about 70 pounds over weight |
|
11:57:34 |
kristenandmadeleine |
and since i have had her i have lost almost 40 pounds |
|
11:57:41 |
jbarbie23 |
awesome; good for you! |
|
11:57:42 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i am 30 pounds from goal. |
|
11:57:53 |
kristenandmadeleine |
people ask me how i lost so much weight. and well we
all know how |
|
11:57:56 |
alphapythia |
oh get this though- this was the only thing that pissed
me off- i asked them to stitch my uterous back in two
layers so that i could do vbac if we decided to have
another child- and i had to *argue* with them about it
from the freaking table |
|
11:58:07 |
abs559 |
good for you :blush: :) |
|
11:58:13 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i just point to my tits and say i use my tits for what
mother nature made them for"" |
|
11:58:30 |
jbarbie23 |
wtf? alphapythia, that sucks |
|
11:58:40 |
alphapythia |
(i was also 42w 1 day at delevery- like really- none of
this they moved my due date back" stuff- 42w 1 day from
lmp)" |
|
11:58:45 |
Jenivere |
they wanted to suture in one layer? |
|
11:58:47 |
kristenandmadeleine |
alpha i dont know how they did me. i just say, make it
so i can have a vbac. |
|
11:58:58 |
alphapythia |
they prolly did two layers then |
|
11:59:12 |
Jenivere |
it's the new thing to do one instead of two |
|
11:59:14 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i will find out today. i got my 6 week appointment |
|
11:59:19 |
jbarbie23 |
yeah, if they are already pro-natural birth, they surely
did |
|
11:59:22 |
alphapythia |
yup- they were like well the research is inconclusive
about two layers vbac is dangerous... blah blah blah"" |
|
11:59:24 |
kristenandmadeleine |
ohhh. i need to go on BC |
|
11:59:34 |
jbarbie23 |
facepalm* |
|
11:59:53 |
kristenandmadeleine |
what BC is good for BF'ing mums? i am thinking about
mirena |
|
11:59:57 |
Jenivere |
that does not sound pro natural |
|
12:00:27 |
jbarbie23 |
baby waking, better go - sorry to hit and run |
|
12:00:45 |
alphapythia |
my midwife was with me and throwing out stats at them
and my husband finally stood up and just leered at them
while i had a short screming hissy fit something along
the lines of DONT WORRY IF I WANT TO DO A VBAC I WONT BE
HERE ANYWAY- WILL YOU PLEASE" |
|
12:01:00 |
alphapythia |
JUST TAKE THE EXTRA 5 MINUTES AND DOTHIS ONE THING MY
WAY- THANK YOU"
09/14/05" |
|
12:01:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
way to stand up for yourself |
|
12:01:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
a girlfriend of mine is having her first VBAC soon |
|
12:01:22 |
kristenandmadeleine |
good goddess |
|
12:01:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
after three CS's |
|
12:01:27 |
Jenivere |
good for you! |
|
12:01:27 |
kristenandmadeleine |
its your boy |
|
12:01:28 |
kristenandmadeleine |
body |
|
12:01:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
she's got an amazing midwife |
|
12:01:39 |
Mod_ariana |
I had a VBAC alphapythia |
|
12:01:40 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my friend on lj is also going to do a vbac in october |
|
12:02:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE UPON THE HOUR MARK, BUT
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO KEEP TALKING, THIS IS A GREAT CHAT. |
