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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #15
10/5/05

11 mamas in attendance

10:19:50 Host_Housepoet hello ladies
10:19:52 rainingkisses ok, I'm about to be  nak
10:19:53 generickat hi
10:19:56 rainingkisses hey Noel :)
10:19:59 Host_Housepoet hey honey
10:20:14 Host_Housepoet yes, we sometimes have a format, but lately we've just been chatting away about ideas and things like that
10:20:31 generickat well my little one is passed out on my lap lol hopefully he'll stay asleep for a little while
10:20:41 Host_Housepoet I've been really busy with college, so I haven't been keeping up with the site as much, which is craptastic because we just got mentioned in Bust magazine
10:20:45 generickat is it like ideas on how to spread breastfeeding awareness?
10:20:48 Host_Housepoet so now a TON of people are looking at the site
10:20:52 Host_Housepoet right.
10:20:52 rainingkisses yay!!
10:21:01 Host_Housepoet we mostly talk about the things that can improve the site
10:21:08 rainingkisses I like Bust but it's expensive.
10:21:10 Host_Housepoet we give out tips and tricks for nursing moms sometimes too
10:21:13 generickat and the site is www.breastfeedingisnormal.org?
10:21:14 Host_Housepoet ya I got one sent to me
10:21:19 Host_Housepoet yep
10:21:23 rainingkisses Kris and I are watching Bill O Reilly and discussing.
10:21:31 generickat let me go check it out I have to admit I've never been there
10:21:32 rainingkisses ;)
10:21:33 Host_Housepoet really
10:21:36 Host_Housepoet haha never?
10:21:41 Host_Housepoet it's a pretty cool site
10:21:46 generickat never...let me go ahead brb
10:21:52 Host_Housepoet alrighty!
10:21:55 rainingkisses woooo
10:22:17 rainingkisses oh, Noel
10:22:23 generickat but, my husband and I are super pro breastfeeding...
10:22:39 generickat i'll email him the link to the website as well i'm sure he'd enjoy looking at it at work
10:22:41 rainingkisses are you gonna be home for the Dr Phil on Friday?
10:23:11 rainingkisses the NIP episode
10:24:15 Host_Housepoet we don't have a TV
10:24:20 rainingkisses I'm tivoing it, so I was going to offer to save it and send it to you along with the inserts
10:24:22 Host_Housepoet but isn't that bfing thing airing that day?
10:24:22 rainingkisses oh, that's right
10:24:25 rainingkisses I think I knew that
10:24:28 rainingkisses yeah, it is
10:24:34 Host_Housepoet that's so cool
10:24:37 Host_Housepoet please promote it! :)
10:24:49 rainingkisses someone posted about it in bfing
10:24:51 generickat that's a good article on Nestle that I wasn't aware of
10:24:56 rainingkisses but I'll post it to b-N
10:25:02 rainingkisses b_n I mean
10:25:14 Host_Housepoet really?
10:25:19 Host_Housepoet there are quite a few good ones in there
10:25:28 rainingkisses grrrr I hate Nestle
10:25:48 rainingkisses we need to make up some boycott Nestle t shirts to wear when we go to the market
10:26:05 generickat well i'm 21 and most of my friends are around 19-30 and I am the ONLY breastfeeder out of like 15 Mom's
10:26:11 rainingkisses Like I BOYCOTT NESTLE" in big letters and "ask me why" below it, or something"
10:26:17 rainingkisses oh, generickat, that's hard
10:26:23 rainingkisses do you have a LLL in your area?
10:26:31 generickat but, 2 of my friends are pregnant and I've convinced them to breastfeed for at least the first 6 weeks
10:26:48 rainingkisses and oh--Noel--have you read the latest New Beginnings?
10:26:52 generickat I don't know the LLL but, I'm sure there are some. I dont' have any problems breastfeeding really. It's so natural that it's quite easy
10:26:58 rainingkisses that's awesome! Hopefully they'll stick with it
10:27:12 rainingkisses well, LLL is a great place to go to meet other like minded moms and offer support
10:27:51 Host_Housepoet I had trouble, but got over it with a good LC
10:28:02 Host_Housepoet No I haven't seen the new New Beginings?
10:28:05 rainingkisses I had issues, too, even with Annie
10:28:11 rainingkisses oh man!! It's all about the LLLI conference
10:28:16 rainingkisses SO UPLIFTING
10:28:38 rainingkisses I cried when I read it
10:28:41 Host_Housepoet oh man
10:28:44 Host_Housepoet I really need to read it
10:28:50 generickat ah well i'm having fun now convincing my friends to breastfeed...with college and work and with a 7 week old life is crazy right now
10:29:26 generickat On the Get Local page
10:29:38 generickat I have A LOT of info about Houston, Texas
10:29:45 rainingkisses I live in TX, too :)
10:30:00 rainingkisses If you don't get it in the mail I'll tuck it in with your inserts, Noel
10:30:06 generickat I NIP all the time here...and I've figured out what is friendly and what is not...
10:30:16 generickat are you going to make it where members can post things like that?
10:30:38 rainingkisses we just moved to Texas, but I've had a couple weird NIP experiences since we came here
10:30:52 rainingkisses mostly just being able to tell people were uncomfortable but didn't say anything.
10:30:54 Host_Housepoet we're working on a database
10:30:56 generickat I also travelled to TN while breastfeeding and Arkansas and I've had experiences in both of those places as well...
10:31:05 Host_Housepoet but there is a message board, where you can put content for your state
10:31:14 Host_Housepoet shoot, you could even be a state captain if there isn't one yet
10:31:21 rainingkisses hehe
10:31:24 Host_Housepoet and plus TX is so big that we would probably need two
10:31:28 Host_Housepoet we have four in california
10:31:31 generickat yea that'd be pretty cool
10:31:37 Host_Housepoet two northern and two southern
10:31:38 generickat Houston is the 3rd biggest city in the US lol
10:31:44 Host_Housepoet there you go!
10:31:48 Host_Housepoet but yah, check out the board
10:31:56 Host_Housepoet find TX and post away!
10:32:15 rainingkisses Hey Noel, how well do you follow the adopt a mom mentors and mentees?
10:32:24 Host_Housepoet especially if you have a bfing corilition or something
10:32:33 Host_Housepoet ummm....
10:32:34 Host_Housepoet hahahaha
10:32:41 rainingkisses because I know scenicbeauty is planning on switching to formula after two months and she's in boobie bootcamp
10:32:45 Host_Housepoet coalition and I don't follow as close as I should ;)
10:32:52 Host_Housepoet really?
10:32:55 Host_Housepoet who's her mentor?
10:33:05 rainingkisses I was on her friends list but I unfriended her because I couldn't stand it any more
10:33:08 rainingkisses avanmiles
10:33:12 Host_Housepoet great.
10:33:23 rainingkisses her husband wants her to set a weaning schedule and follow it
10:33:30 generickat lol alright brb i'll post and i have one other friend from texas from livejournal and i'll get her to post as well
10:34:57 Host_Housepoet ew
10:35:02 rainingkisses yeah
10:35:05 rainingkisses I kind of went off on her
10:35:25 rainingkisses I feel badly about it now, but I felt like all her other friends (incl some bf mamas) were totally enabling
10:35:32 rainingkisses it's ok to quit" and shit like that"
10:36:13 rainingkisses I tried and tried to be supporitive but she doesn't reply to comments...so I unfriended her
10:37:28 Host_Housepoet that's pretty much what I would do too
10:37:35 Host_Housepoet sounds like a lost cause unfortunetly
10:38:04 rainingkisses yeah
10:38:24 rainingkisses her poor baby is only two months..and her older child was ff and has allergies and asthma terribly
10:38:50 rainingkisses and her older son had reflux and this one has symptoms" which I'm sure would be worse if he gets switched to ff"
10:38:57 rainingkisses I think about it and it makes me want to panic.
10:39:57 Host_Housepoet me too
10:39:57 Host_Housepoet :(
10:40:36 Mod_ariana hi ya'll
10:40:40 rainingkisses Charlie is being WILD
10:40:42 rainingkisses hi Ariana
10:40:44 generickat for some reason i'm having trouble logging in to the site
10:40:44 rainingkisses :)
10:41:06 Host_Housepoet did you sign up for a user name ?
10:41:47 Host_Housepoet there she went again
10:41:48 Host_Housepoet hahaah
10:42:07 rainingkisses brb, diaper
10:42:55 Host_Housepoet k
10:42:59 Host_Housepoet oh ya I need to do that too
10:43:01 Host_Housepoet hehe.
10:43:07 Host_Housepoet hello emthefrog
10:43:09 Mod_ariana I was thinking the same thing.
10:43:13 emthefrog hello
10:43:21 Mod_ariana Hi  emthefrog
10:43:26 emthefrog baby's asleep for now, I can swing by :-)
10:43:48 Host_Housepoet isn't that the best
10:43:55 Host_Housepoet getting a little time to yourself :)
10:44:05 Mod_ariana time to yourself?  What's that?
10:44:10 emthefrog yep, but that usually doesnt last long.
10:44:18 emthefrog you'd think I put needles in his bed
10:44:53 generickat L o
10:45:20 generickat blah..sorry i'm a loser I just now created a username there...and I accidently closed this chat window so I'm back now
10:45:27 Host_Housepoet ah ok
10:45:32 Host_Housepoet so can you post to the board now?
10:45:38 emthefrog brb he s crying
10:45:48 generickat it says that my account has to be opened by a moderator
10:46:02 generickat it might have said administrator
10:46:33 Host_Housepoet what is your user name?
10:46:37 generickat but, i haven't tried to post since i created it...let me try really quickly
10:46:38 generickat generickat
10:47:15 Host_Housepoet you should be working just fine
10:48:05 generickat k thnx I'll post some more stuff in the texas forum
10:48:19 emthefrog I actually have a bf question
10:48:32 Mod_ariana emthefrog go for it
10:48:37 emthefrog is it possible that I am producing much more milk in one breast than in the other?
10:49:06 Mod_ariana sure
10:49:14 emthefrog any way to fix that?
10:49:28 Mod_ariana Is on breast visibly larger?
10:49:31 emthefrog or can I just feed him from one breast, all the time
10:49:44 emthefrog no, they're pretty much the same size
10:49:45 Mod_ariana Most women have one or the other breast that's a better producer
10:49:56 Mod_ariana usually it's just a slightl difference, often not even noticed
10:50:03 Mod_ariana but in some women it's more pronounced.
10:50:14 rainingkisses my left boob is bigger and produces better, but if I let Annie marathon nurse on the right one, it lets down more often
10:50:15 Mod_ariana If you want you can try nursing on the poor producing side more often
10:50:16 emthefrog because it's been hell on wheels trying to feed him from one of my breasts for a little while now
10:50:47 emthefrog it genuinaly (sorry for mispelling, english's my second language) feels as if he cant get much milk from one of my breast
10:50:48 rainingkisses it's like the left boob lets down quicker and just about drowns her, but the right one will let down more often over the course of a nursing session
10:51:07 generickat Ariana, do you still need daddy and baby pics?
10:51:17 rainingkisses I'd let him nurse on that one as often as possible
10:51:33 Mod_ariana I'm still open to pics, but I've kind of put that project on hold because I'm so busy right now
10:51:45 emthefrog that's what I'm trying to do, but he gets so frustrated
10:51:52 Mod_ariana But I've been saving all I get to make an article / gallery at some point
10:51:59 rainingkisses I missed that--what kind of Daddy-kiddo pics?
10:52:12 Mod_ariana You could also try pumping on the lesser side
10:52:23 emthefrog oh that's a good idea too
10:52:26 Mod_ariana If it seems like he wants to comfort suck then be sure he does it on the lesser side
10:52:41 emthefrog ok, I really gotta go now, he's crying and I cant type and hold him :-p
10:52:46 rainingkisses I have to make myself not offer the easier boob
10:52:48 emthefrog thanks for the answers and advice!
10:52:51 rainingkisses good luck with it em :)
10:53:06 Mod_ariana Or feed him at first on the big producer so he'll get the edge off his hunger then switch him to the lesser one once he's not so starving
10:53:20 emthefrog thanks guys! I'll be back some other times :-)
10:53:37 rainingkisses what about tandem pics, Ariana? You have any use for those?
10:53:46 Mod_ariana Oh yes!
10:53:51 rainingkisses okay.
10:53:52 rainingkisses I have a few.
10:54:03 Mod_ariana The daddy/baby thing was for an article about bonding without bottles
10:54:03 rainingkisses where do you want them?
10:54:25 rainingkisses okay, I have a picture of Kris with Annie sleeping on his chest, and one of him with her in the sling
10:54:28 Mod_ariana You can post them or links to them on the breastfeedingisnormal.org board or you can email me at arianamama@neomail.com
10:54:41 rainingkisses okay
10:54:45 rainingkisses I'll do that :)
10:54:57 rainingkisses you want me to email you links to them or the peeeektures themselves?
10:55:27 Mod_ariana doesn't matter
10:55:31 rainingkisses okay.
10:55:47 rainingkisses I'll probably do links straight from my photobucket, then
10:56:29 rainingkisses arrrgh
10:56:39 rainingkisses photobucket's being an a-hole
10:56:55 Host_Housepoet sorry guys
10:56:57 Host_Housepoet poo time
10:57:29 rainingkisses hehe
10:57:31 Mod_ariana rainingkisses like I said I'm not really working on this article at the moment because I'm so busy so it's not a big rush
10:57:47 Mod_ariana Of course, if you're like me if you don't do it right now you'll just forget!
10:57:48 Mod_ariana haha
10:57:55 rainingkisses yeah, but if I don't do it NOW it'll slip right out of my placenta depleted mind
10:58:48 Host_Housepoet hahah
10:58:52 Host_Housepoet I'm the same way
10:59:03 Host_Housepoet but you see I feel sorry for Ariana because she keeps me in check
10:59:07 rainingkisses lol
10:59:09 Host_Housepoet so she has to remember her stuff and MINE!
10:59:12 Host_Housepoet hahah
10:59:13 rainingkisses I keep my hands covered in ink
10:59:17 rainingkisses writing on them
10:59:20 Mod_ariana Only lately I haven't remembered anything
10:59:27 rainingkisses not pregnant are you?
10:59:31 Mod_ariana No
10:59:34 Mod_ariana Just super busy
10:59:35 rainingkisses I swear that's the first sign for me...
10:59:46 rainingkisses not super sense of smell, or being dizzy or sick
10:59:54 Mod_ariana Hubby is working a billion hours a week, and we've just started a really structured homeschool cirriculum
10:59:55 rainingkisses I just get stoOopid
11:00:00 rainingkisses oh cool
11:00:01 Mod_ariana haha
11:00:05 Mod_ariana NO
11:00:11 rainingkisses I just started homeschool preschool with Charlie
11:00:12 Mod_ariana I can't be pregnant right now
11:00:20 rainingkisses I'm trying to get a co op preschool going around here.
11:00:33 Host_Housepoet that's so awesome
11:00:36 rainingkisses I'd seriously cry if I was pregnant now too
11:00:50 rainingkisses it's not working too well, but I have one other mom interested
11:01:06 rainingkisses right now we're learning through arts and crafts
11:01:20 rainingkisses and I've got him counting to ten in English, French, Spanish and German ;)
11:02:12 rainingkisses Noel have you heard from Tina?
11:02:16 rainingkisses since her last post?
11:02:33 rainingkisses I know the midwife said she thought the baby was going to come on the 7th, Grant's b day
11:03:03 Host_Housepoet O javem
11:03:10 Host_Housepoet I haven't heard from tina no
11:03:15 Host_Housepoet I dont even know if I saw the last post
11:03:16 rainingkisses I'm all antsy
11:03:19 Host_Housepoet *goes to look*
11:04:28 Mod_ariana Host_Housepoet did you officially start the chat?
11:05:13 rainingkisses darnit
11:05:27 rainingkisses I have to go...Charlie's having a meltdown and DH is leaving for work
11:05:48 rainingkisses I'll be sure and send you the pics as soon as photobucket straightens up, Ariana
11:05:50 Mod_ariana bye  rainingkisses
11:05:54 rainingkisses *smooches*
11:05:54 rainingkisses bye
11:06:08 Host_Housepoet oh she's leaving?
11:06:09 Host_Housepoet :(
11:06:28 Host_Housepoet official start to the chat
11:06:30 Host_Housepoet RIGHT HERE
11:06:32 Host_Housepoet heh.
11:06:35 Host_Housepoet it's very lax today
11:06:35 Mod_ariana heeh
11:06:40 Host_Housepoet as usual
11:06:48 Host_Housepoet seems like we've been getting more and more lax lately haven't we?
11:06:57 Mod_ariana Oh my goodness so lax
11:07:07 Mod_ariana I'm disgusted with my self
11:07:14 Mod_ariana but I just don't have the time to do stuff
11:07:32 Mod_ariana So, tell me --  How's the cloth diapering going?
11:09:19 Host_Housepoet it's awesome
11:09:26 Host_Housepoet funny you ask i'm looking at dipes right now
11:09:28 Host_Housepoet heh
11:09:34 Host_Housepoet a really cute fitted dipe
11:09:46 Mod_ariana awww
11:09:55 Mod_ariana I wish I had your guts to go for it at 2 years old
11:10:25 Mod_ariana I think maybe if I ever do have another I'll do cloth
11:10:51 Mod_ariana Though it really seems like James has NO interested in potty training
11:11:18 Host_Housepoet really?
11:11:24 Host_Housepoet then you're not wasting any money if you try
11:11:25 Mod_ariana Oh, I just realized, William was 5 1/2 yesterday.  Wow
11:11:28 Host_Housepoet but you don't have a washer
11:11:30 Host_Housepoet WOW
11:11:34 Host_Housepoet he will be 6 soon!
11:11:34 Mod_ariana Yes, that's the investment
11:11:36 Host_Housepoet my goodness
11:11:45 Host_Housepoet it's a pain if you dont have a washer
11:11:47 therealocelot he'd quite possibly potty train right off the bat if you switched to cloth at 2 :) that's basically what happened to us
11:12:02 Mod_ariana I've heard that
11:12:13 generickat brb
11:12:27 Host_Housepoet so there you go
11:12:29 Mod_ariana I know that I can't take on cloth diapering right now, maybe in a few months
11:12:35 Host_Housepoet I wish that would have happened with Aiden
11:12:36 therealocelot thankfully, we were switching back to cloth, so it wasn't actually an invesetment
11:12:44 Host_Housepoet oh that's good
11:13:47 Mod_ariana I was having one of those breastfeeding mommy of toddler days on Monday
11:13:55 Mod_ariana I was thinking maybe I should just wean him""
11:14:19 Mod_ariana I know it's not really the answer but once in a blue moon when I get super stressed it sounds like it is
11:14:53 Mod_ariana Tony's pretty good, he knows what to say
11:14:58 therealocelot yeah. i've been feeling that sometimes lately
11:15:08 Mod_ariana he always says if you still feel that way in a few days we can talk about it.""
11:15:21 Host_Housepoet oh thta's good that he says that
11:15:28 Host_Housepoet I was feeling like that yesterday
11:15:30 Host_Housepoet I'm tired.
11:15:45 Mod_ariana Last night I went to bed early and T watched the kiddos
11:15:50 Mod_ariana now I feel better
11:17:09 Host_Housepoet it's tough nursing a toddler
11:17:28 Mod_ariana some days it is
11:17:33 Mod_ariana some days it is wonderful
11:17:40 Mod_ariana I think some days it's just hard mothering a toddler
11:18:17 Host_Housepoet sorry had to go out and get someone in the main room
11:18:17 therealocelot and then some days you can get them to do your dishes for you while you chat :)
11:18:37 Mod_ariana ohhh, how old are your kids?
11:18:48 therealocelot just one, 27 months
11:19:09 Mod_ariana Oh, I thought maybe you had older kiddos
11:19:32 Host_Housepoet wow Aiden is almost that age too
11:19:32 therealocelot he's just playing with the nonsharp/breakable dishes in the sink with warm soapy water. I'm not sure how well they're actually getting clean, but he's very happy with it
11:19:37 Host_Housepoet all our babes are so close in age
11:19:55 Mod_ariana My neice LOVES washing dishes
11:20:04 Mod_ariana She's just over 2 1/2
11:20:19 Mod_ariana My sis has to pull clean dishes out of the cupboard sometimes for her!
11:22:07 therealocelot hmm... downside... the coffeemaker parts are in the sink. I wonder if I can rescue them
11:22:29 Host_Housepoet hey darcy
11:22:31 Host_Housepoet :)
11:22:33 Host_Housepoet glad to see you
11:22:38 Mod_ariana what'll you do if the coffee pot breaks!!!!
11:22:40 darcy Good morning!
11:22:46 Mod_ariana darcy hi
11:23:09 therealocelot they're plastic. I just want to make coffee :) (and if they broke, I'd use the stovetop espressomaker :)
11:23:10 darcy Hi, Ariana.
11:23:26 talula_fairie hi all
11:23:33 Mod_ariana talula_fairie!  Hi!
11:23:35 talula_fairie im so tired i can hardly see, i was kept up all night
11:24:18 Mod_ariana That Jane is a fuss pot
11:24:26 talula_fairie mostly just wiggly
11:24:34 talula_fairie have I missed anything?
11:24:41 Mod_ariana no, we're super casual today
11:24:46 darcy The wiggliness is hard. . .
11:24:52 Mod_ariana though we did discuss cloth diapers for a bit
11:24:55 darcy It's not always that he needs something, he just wants to wiggle.
11:25:04 Mod_ariana You shoulda been in on that conversation
11:25:10 talula_fairie ha
11:25:26 talula_fairie no, there was not a thing wrong, she was just really wiggly and woke me up every 10-60 minutes
11:25:27 darcy It's windy here and my diapers are flyin around in the wind.
11:25:29 talula_fairie from 1am on
11:25:53 Mod_ariana funny I woke at midnight and James was wiggly too
11:25:57 darcy That's so frustrating.  Do you swaddle?
11:26:04 talula_fairie she haaaaaaaaaaaaates covers
11:26:05 talula_fairie she'd have a fit
11:26:06 Mod_ariana but we eventually both got calm
11:26:20 Mama_K morning ladies!
11:26:24 Host_Housepoet morning
11:26:45 darcy That's too bad.  Joseph loves a good swaddle, but it's hard to  do him up tight - he's strong!
11:26:59 Mama_K is it free discussion now?
11:27:13 Mod_ariana Both my boys hated being swaddled
11:27:22 Host_Housepoet completely
11:27:22 Mod_ariana They'd just kick and scream unitl they got out
11:27:24 talula_fairie she liked it when she was little
11:27:28 Host_Housepoet we dont have a format today
11:27:40 Mama_K can I give a shamless plug
11:27:48 Mama_K it's BF related!
11:28:03 darcy I have an interejsting work issue. . .
11:28:20 darcy I work part time, mostly from home, but I go into the office one morning a week. . .
11:28:39 darcy so I have to pump  milk that morning.  There is another new mom there who works full time. . .
11:28:48 darcy so she has to pump several bottles a day.
11:29:21 darcy Anyhoo. . . long story short, they took an old executive" dressing/bath room and turned it into a lactation room for us."
11:29:26 Host_Housepoet of course
11:29:41 Mod_ariana darcy that's cool!
11:29:45 darcy We turned off the toilet and put in a nice chair and got a little fridge.  It's pretty sweet.
11:29:47 Host_Housepoet that is very cool
11:29:48 Mama_K darcy that' wonderful!!!!
11:30:02 Host_Housepoet my friend works at THQ, which is a video game company in Agorua Hills
11:30:11 Host_Housepoet he told me that they have a lactation room too!
11:30:15 Host_Housepoet I was so surprised
11:30:18 darcy HOWEVER, there is a VP who I shall call Mega for megalomaniac who feels that his space has been taken.
11:30:25 Host_Housepoet I want to write them a letter from us and tell them that they rock
11:30:28 talula_fairie that;s awesome
11:30:37 Mama_K you should!!!
11:30:38 darcy He wanted to use the space as an office for a receptionist he may or may not hire at some point.
11:30:42 talula_fairie a few times I've been to a store that has one, I love it and wish more stores would
11:30:48 talula_fairie I mean, not that I'm ashamed of bfing
11:30:52 talula_fairie but my baby is so distractible
11:31:01 talula_fairie its nice to have a quite place to nurse
11:31:09 darcy So, he's ticked at me.  We have a terrible relationship anyway (because he's a sexist pig and I can't keep my mouth shut). . .
11:31:14 darcy and this is definitely making it worse.
11:31:24 darcy So, now he's attacking me on the work front.
11:31:24 talula_fairie what a jerk
11:31:26 Mama_K yeah cause the potential receptionist is most important.
11:31:34 Mama_K now BFing moms
11:31:40 darcy We don't work directly with each other, so there's no reason for us to interact professionally,
11:31:43 Mama_K what a llon
11:31:48 talula_fairie isnt that not legal?
11:31:49 therealocelot uc davis, where I used to work, has a whole lactation room system, along with hospital grade pumps and stuff. The office I worked in didn't have a great room (curtained off bathroom stall), but most are really good
11:31:53 Mama_K I can't type today
11:32:02 darcy but he's taken it on to critique" my department and is trying to get my job eliminated."
11:32:04 talula_fairie for him to act that way?
11:32:19 Host_Housepoet what an asshole
11:32:22 Mama_K well I don't know if there is anyone in California other than housepoet and I
11:32:25 Host_Housepoet if that happenes you have legal recourse
11:32:31 darcy this is all still pretty speculative, but one of my coworkers came to me telling me what was up and he seemed pretty sure that I should brace for potentially losing my job.
11:32:31 Host_Housepoet Darcy is too
11:32:31 Mama_K but if there is anyone in So Cal
11:32:37 Host_Housepoet she's in ventura
11:32:44 therealocelot i am ub CA, but not So (anymore)
11:32:46 Mama_K there will be a grand breastfeeding celebration dinner on October 11th
11:32:49 darcy Yeah.  I'm in CA - Ventura, but I work in Santa Barbara.
11:32:52 Host_Housepoet hehe
11:32:55 Host_Housepoet plug away katie
11:32:56 Mod_ariana I'm in Los Angeles
11:33:15 therealocelot if you can prove it is related, you'd probably have a pretty good lawsuit
11:33:24 Host_Housepoet oh ha, and my ariana is in LA too
11:33:28 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:33:29 Mama_K The Ojai Valley Birth and Resource Center & The Neighborhood for Family Learning are having a free dinner to celebrate the womanly art of Breastfeeding
11:33:32 Host_Housepoet and yes you could sue
11:33:36 Host_Housepoet that's so awesome
11:33:38 Host_Housepoet I really want to go
11:33:40 darcy I think it will be hard to prove it is related.  He's an ass, but he's a genius.
11:33:58 darcy October 11 at what time.  That is so exciting!
11:34:04 Mama_K Thuesday October 11th from 6pm till 8:30 pm come and join us in the celbration
11:34:19 Host_Housepoet hehe, send me the info katie, and I'll post it on the site
11:34:28 Host_Housepoet actutally you can post it on theboard in california sectin
11:34:33 Mama_K meet with fellow parents, caregivers, doctors, midwives, doulas and nurses and many others who support BFing
11:34:47 darcy I'll be there.  That is great!
11:35:09 Mama_K at the Oaji Valley Woman's Club at 441 East Ojai Ave.
11:35:21 Mama_K for more info call 805-646-7559
11:35:24 Mama_K thanks!
11:35:30 Mama_K yay!
11:35:38 Mod_ariana That sounds cool
11:35:41 Mama_K sorry bout the poor typing
11:35:49 Mama_K I'm dislexic this morning
11:35:51 Mod_ariana Why is there never anything on the Westside though.  :(
11:36:01 Mama_K there is!!!!
11:36:12 Mama_K if you contact The Hollywood Birth Center
11:36:21 Mama_K they have a schedule of events
11:36:23 Mama_K picnics
11:36:26 Mod_ariana I talked to them when I was pregnant.
11:36:27 Mama_K and whatnot
11:36:31 Mod_ariana I should look up their stuff
11:36:35 Mama_K Connie was my midwife
11:36:39 Mama_K she's amazing
11:36:52 Mod_ariana Ohhh, I wanted to go with a birth center
11:36:58 Mama_K they are incredible
11:37:11 talula_fairie I want a birth center too
11:37:13 Mama_K they have an onsite nutritionist
11:37:14 talula_fairie but I just can't afford it
11:37:16 Mod_ariana I talked to them a little and they were really nice
11:37:20 Mama_K taught me how to eat well
11:37:24 talula_fairie it's not covered by my insuance and would sost $2,000
11:37:29 Mama_K yes
11:37:29 Mod_ariana talula_fairie my advice is just keep networking
11:37:41 Host_Housepoet yes I agree
11:37:41 Mama_K we charged it on a no intrest credit card
11:37:44 talula_fairie I just can't pay out of pocket
11:37:46 Host_Housepoet and saving $2000 isn't that hard either
11:37:46 Mod_ariana Keep calling midwives and doulas, etc. in your area and eventually you'll find a good situation
11:37:46 talula_fairie I have no credit
11:37:55 Mama_K and then submitted the claim to our insurance and it was partially covered
11:37:56 talula_fairie I don't think you all know how broke I am in terms of extra money
11:38:01 talula_fairie Not if you have Kaiser :(
11:38:07 Mod_ariana I found midwives in a hospital that were 100% covered by my insurance
11:38:17 Mama_K yeah kaiser is non transferable
11:38:24 talula_fairie at Kaiser, you get whoever is available to deliver your baby :(
11:38:30 Mama_K yeah
11:38:40 talula_fairie I WILL check to see if I can finda midwife who will do a home birth
11:38:41 Mod_ariana I thought Kaiser used midwives sometimes for low risk births
11:38:42 talula_fairie just for the birth
11:38:47 talula_fairie they do have midwives
11:38:53 talula_fairie but it's luck of the draw if you get one or not
11:38:56 Mod_ariana they're probably MED wives though
11:39:02 Mama_K I highly reccomend the ladies at Hollywood
11:39:03 talula_fairie she just catches the baby its not like a real midwive would
11:39:10 talula_fairie they are just like the OBs there
11:39:15 Mama_K yes hospital trained midwives
11:39:20 Mama_K are not the same
11:39:22 talula_fairie afk jane just pooed a stinker
11:39:24 talula_fairie *dies*
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