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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #16
10/12/05

23 mamas in attendance

11:01:44 Host_Housepoet good Morning ladies
11:01:49 lifeisstatic morning!
11:01:57 Host_Housepoet I trust everyone is fine and well today
11:02:04 agirlday goodmorning!
11:02:04 Djbluzclooz didnt you say she was 3 months? whooey?
11:02:19 Djbluzclooz im great..i should be getting ready for work but i was excited to see a chat
11:02:30 Host_Housepoet Last night I had the pleasure of attending a breastfeeding celebration dinner with the Midwives Associate on Ojai.
11:02:38 whooey22 yes she is, we were going to wait until after 6 months, and we are visiting my family for new years
11:02:41 Host_Housepoet Ojai is a small community here in California, near Los Angeles
11:02:54 mommeeof8 Here it is good afternoon. :D
11:03:03 Djbluzclooz i wouldnt start solids until a year.
11:03:10 Host_Housepoet It was a wonderful dinner, mexican! yum!!
11:03:20 Djbluzclooz i love mexican food
11:03:24 lifeisstatic me too!
11:03:29 whooey22 the military doctors here say to start her at 4 months, argh
11:03:37 Host_Housepoet and the leader Nan, who's been interviewed by Mothering Mag, gave a wonderful talk about bfing, and many women, and MEN, stood and told their stories
11:03:44 Host_Housepoet one woman was even nursing twins
11:03:55 Host_Housepoet I've never seen that in person. That was one amazing site.
11:04:01 agirlday my husband is writing an article about being a bfing dad
11:04:03 Host_Housepoet So many mama's, happy babies, and slings!
11:04:04 Djbluzclooz wow, that is cool
11:04:05 lifeisstatic I found a breastfeeding store here in Arizona
11:04:18 mommeeof8 Dinner out anywhere I don't have to cook/clean up is great.
11:04:21 Mod_ariana agirlday where is your husband's article for
11:04:22 lifeisstatic they sold pumps slings and clothdiapers
11:04:25 Djbluzclooz we have one here too!!! the milky way
11:04:34 agirlday parentwise austin in january
11:04:38 lifeisstatic it was so awesome!
11:04:43 whooey22 haa, i like that name
11:05:14 lifeisstatic Its called baby mother and more
11:05:53 mommeeof8 Most of the mom's in our church breastfeed- Front Royal, VA. They all have good info on where to find stuff, info, etc.
11:05:59 agirlday solstice is 11 months and I am 20 weeks pregnant.... I'll soon be nursing 2. he's REALLY supportive
11:06:35 Djbluzclooz ju7
11:06:38 Djbluzclooz sorry
11:06:42 Djbluzclooz isis took over
11:07:31 mommeeof8 My hubby thinks it is great I breastfeed- he doesn't have to get up with a baby...
11:07:43 Calebs_Mommy haha yeah :P
11:08:09 Djbluzclooz question. how do i stop isis from tearing off my clothes when we are out...and in the house too. My mom is really supportive but she is getting less and less supportive the more isis tries to undress me
11:08:27 Calebs_Mommy awww.. i don't know, i haven't been to that stage yet :(
11:08:37 whooey22 by the time i've feed and changed her my husband is just waking up to her noises
11:08:42 Host_Housepoet choooooooooooolllllllllaaaa!
11:08:49 lifeisstatic My husband is still weirded out by NIP
11:08:53 Mod_ariana Djbluzclooz I say you treat any unwanted behavior the same way
11:09:07 Mod_ariana Tell her no, we don't do that, etc.
11:09:15 Djbluzclooz ive tried that
11:09:23 CrystalDOF ORELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
11:09:23 Djbluzclooz i tried treating it the same why as biting
11:09:26 whooey22 my husband gets deffensive because he doesn't want anyone saying anything to me, but it hasn't happened
11:09:28 Mod_ariana It's best to be consistent, she's probably too young to understand it's ok at home but not in public
11:09:45 Djbluzclooz thats why i probably have to stop her at home too
11:09:49 givinguponyou my husband loves it when i nip because that means she isn't fussing to be fed and attracting attention to us!
11:09:50 Mod_ariana Also if she's doing that because she wants to nurse it's a good idea to nurse her before she gets to that point
11:09:57 lifeisstatic I think he if afraid of the confrontation if someone ever did say anything to me
11:09:58 CrystalDOF PINK
11:10:03 Host_Housepoet I went through that with Aiden, but I just taught him the nurse sign and it helped it all
11:10:08 Host_Housepoet yes crystal you are pink.
11:10:09 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:10:10 Djbluzclooz we nurse every 5 seconds, hah
11:10:24 whooey22 when is the best time to start the signing?
11:10:30 whooey22 it is something i really want to do
11:10:35 givinguponyou we've just started at 6 months
11:10:49 givinguponyou that is what i found to be the general recommendation every where
11:10:51 agirlday hows it going? with the signing?
11:10:52 Host_Housepoet Come join our weekly Baby Signing Chat, led by Sara Bingham of www.weehands.com, every Thursday: 1-2pm pacific, 2-3pm mountain, 3-4pm central, 4-5pm eastern. In the Babies-n-Toddlers" chat room"
11:11:00 Mod_ariana I knew / knew of a mom who is deaf
11:11:10 Mod_ariana She started signing to her baby at birth
11:11:14 whooey22 i'm going to have to get a baby signs book around christmas time so i can learn it myself
11:11:20 Djbluzclooz she turned 19 months yesterday, i know she understands what i am talking about but she chooses not to listen sometimes
11:11:29 Djbluzclooz is it too late to start signing with her
11:11:31 mommeeof8 How are the baby signs different from ASL?
11:11:35 Host_Housepoet no it's not too late
11:11:58 Host_Housepoet it's really not any different. You try and teach your child ASL, and what they pick up they use.
11:12:02 givinguponyou a lot of the methods use asl
11:12:05 Host_Housepoet Like for instance, my son does 'more'
11:12:13 Djbluzclooz does everybody use the same sign...what do you guys use?
11:12:22 Djbluzclooz i know the more one
11:12:27 Host_Housepoet and more is all fingers together on each hand, then you touch your hands together at the tips
11:12:32 givinguponyou i took asl for 4 years in school so we use asl
11:12:37 mommeeof8 We have signing for kids and signing is fun (books). We could start with those?
11:12:38 Host_Housepoet but my son does it as his pointer fingers touching together only
11:12:53 rainingkisses hey everyone
11:12:57 Djbluzclooz my sister is handicap and we taught her more eat drink but she didnt comprehend it
11:13:00 Mod_ariana rainingkisses Hello
11:13:25 Djbluzclooz im going to have to try to teach her
11:13:32 Djbluzclooz i think it would help A LOT
11:13:51 givinguponyou yeah those books are probably fine
11:14:02 Host_Housepoet here is another great link
11:14:02 Host_Housepoet http://commtechlab.msu.edu/sites/aslweb/browser.htm
11:14:15 rainingkisses I got a NIP email from Hyland's just now
11:14:15 whooey22 i think you should be able to teach signing at amost any young age, children pick things up so quickly
11:14:19 Host_Housepoet it is a web site, where it shows thousands of different signs in a quicktime window
11:14:21 Host_Housepoet it's amazing
11:14:23 rainingkisses ariana, I'm gonna send you those pictures right now
11:14:25 Host_Housepoet so true
11:14:31 Host_Housepoet my son picked up nurse in a weekend.
11:14:48 Djbluzclooz how old was he?
11:14:56 Host_Housepoet he was ........
11:15:14 Host_Housepoet heh....um...17 months?
11:15:25 Djbluzclooz ok
11:15:29 Host_Housepoet then he learned more and please and thank you
11:15:54 givinguponyou my baby seems to be 'getting it' quicker than my husband
11:15:59 mommeeof8 I wonder if that would help with the biting thing- teach her to communicate. She already says a few works we understand- more, some, eat that, hi daddy-
11:16:12 Djbluzclooz i always thought sign language was interesting
11:18:54 mommeeof8 The other 7 all went through similar stages- it just gets frustrating when you know they are hungry and then they bite. I ended up in the hospital 9 yrs ago for three days with mastitis- my # 4 actually bit a chunk out of me when she was nursing
11:19:11 Mod_ariana Since we're all interested in breastfeeding I think we'll all be intersted in this!
11:19:14 Mod_ariana Weekly Mothering Magazine Sponsored Chat, Guest Speaker: Kelly Bonyata
11:19:17 mwalton yikes!
11:19:31 Mod_ariana October 12.  TODAY
11:19:40 Jenivere ow!
11:19:41 givinguponyou ouch!
11:19:41 Mod_ariana 6-7pm pst, 7-8pm mst, 8-9pm cst, 9-10pm est    Kelly is an international board certified lactation consultant (IBCLC), and a member of the International Lactation Consultant Association and the Florida Lactation Consultant Association. She is a summa cum laude graduate of Mercer University, with majors in mathematics and physics, and previously worked in the field of environmental assessment and remediation. Kelly is the owner and originator of kellymom.com, an internationally recognized website providing breastfeeding and parenting information to professionals and parents.
11:20:00 rainingkisses Hey Ariana...you wanted tandem nursing pictures and bonding with Daddy pictures, right?
11:20:12 mwalton wow..I never knew there was actually a Kelly behind kellymom, very cool!
11:20:19 Mod_ariana rainingkisses Oh Yes!
11:20:27 rainingkisses anything else?
11:20:35 Mod_ariana mwalton Isn't it cool.  She's my hero.  I'm so there tonight!
11:20:40 whooey22 i need to get off my butt and sew my daughter some more boppy covers, i just don't know what to do with her when I'm sewing. I hate leaving her asleep on the couch and I'm not entertaining when I'm sewing.
11:20:41 Jenivere awesome, I love that site!
11:20:53 Mod_ariana rainingkisses Ummm, that's all I can think of but if you have any pics that really show good latch that'd be welcome
11:21:23 mommeeof8 tandem nursing- With only a 3 mo break when #6 weaned himself before #7 was born, I've been nursing for 15 1/2 years
11:21:41 Mod_ariana Wow that's a long time
11:21:47 mwalton hey has anyone ever had an experience where they love their pediatrician, but then out of left field they pull something weird?  Is there any nice way to tell them to back off, or do you just have to find another ped?
11:21:50 Mod_ariana I've only been doing it about 1/3 of that time
11:21:54 Jenivere that's great
11:22:23 Jenivere i've been nursing just shy of 4 years
11:22:36 mwalton (mine keeps trying to get me to give Connor solids at 4 months old)..at the 4 mo appt, then had her assistant call a week later to see if I needed those solids instructions"..etc etc"
11:22:40 Mod_ariana mwalton I think it all depends on how serious what they said was and how you feel
11:22:53 mommeeof8 sewing-www.elizabethlee.com patterns for nursing shirts, dressed and slings
11:22:54 Mod_ariana mwalton Did you ask WHY?
11:23:06 Mod_ariana and mention that the AAP says no solids needed until 6 months?
11:23:41 whooey22 mwalton, the military docs told me I needed to start at 4 months as well, at her 4 month appt i'm printing up the aap an who stuff about solids
11:23:42 mwalton yes, and her response was well you know they're always changing those recommendations..and in my experience...*insert a ton of incidental garbage*"
11:24:24 Mod_ariana I'd go with your gut.  If you totally don't trust her now then find a new one.
11:24:35 Mod_ariana If you feel like this is just a little blip then you may be fine
11:24:36 mommeeof8 My family practice DR asked me when I start them on solids ;) My response-If they can grab it off my plate and get it into their mouth, they are ready. Between 7 and 8 months mine start...
11:25:12 mwalton I'm thinking about looking into it..I think I'll see her at the 6 month appointment and see how it goes, it just threw me, up to now she's been 100% bf supportive, anti circ, she even told me if I wanted to delay vax she'd help with that!
11:25:57 rainingkisses Ariana I just sent it
11:26:18 mommeeof8 A good DR makes all the difference. Even if mine wasn't in our HMO, I would choose her and pay the difference out of pocket.
11:27:57 Mod_ariana rainingkisses you're awesome!!
11:28:04 rainingkisses lol
11:28:07 rainingkisses did you look at them?
11:28:21 Mod_ariana only some so far
11:29:46 rainingkisses ok good
11:29:50 rainingkisses I'm glad they're working.
11:29:55 Mod_ariana ok, now I've looked at all of them
11:29:57 Mod_ariana They're great
11:29:57 mwalton actually what was most amusing was dh reaction when I told him what the dr was up to, he was ready to switch peds right there and then!  He's become such a bf advocate..good man.
11:29:59 rainingkisses goody
11:30:00 rainingkisses hehe
11:30:02 Mod_ariana You have such pretty eyes!!!
11:30:05 rainingkisses aww, thanks
11:30:18 rainingkisses that last one...Annie has a huge scratch on her face
11:30:24 rainingkisses from being pissed in her car seat
11:30:38 mwalton heh Connor does that too, no matter how short we keep his nails
11:30:41 Mod_ariana I almost didn't see it, her hair kinda covers it up
11:30:59 rainingkisses I probably just notice cause I'm the mama
11:31:27 Mod_ariana I wouldn't have seen it if you didn't point it out
11:31:52 mommeeof8 bye- Housework calls.
11:32:06 kristenandmadeleine hey ladies
11:32:10 Mod_ariana mommeeof8 goodbye
11:32:11 mwalton taek care!
11:32:14 Mod_ariana Thanks for joining us
11:32:20 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine Hello!  welcome
11:32:53 kristenandmadeleine :crying  i got a plugged duct
11:33:00 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine :(
11:33:09 kristenandmadeleine it bloody hurts
11:33:11 Mod_ariana Did it just happen today?
11:33:16 kristenandmadeleine yesterday
11:33:29 kristenandmadeleine im nursing the hell out of te side
11:33:29 Mod_ariana Do you get them often?
11:33:32 kristenandmadeleine nope
11:33:51 MamaKT Hi!  sometimes Phytolacca works WONDERS for plugged ducts.  I've had more than my share...
11:33:51 Mod_ariana moist heat, ibuprofin, massage
11:33:53 kristenandmadeleine ive never had a problem bf'ing before.  no sore nipples or anything
11:34:14 Mod_ariana MamaKT what is Phytolacca?
11:34:36 MamaKT it's a homeopathic rememdy.  You have to get it online.  ABCHomeopathy.com
11:34:45 Mod_ariana Oh, neat
11:34:49 whooey22 this morning when I woke up i had a nice size lump in my breast from being engorged, thankfully it was drained when she ate
11:34:50 kristenandmadeleine and i've been massaging it towards the nipple and having her chin pointing to the lump.  its a big lump too
11:35:18 MamaKT I've had PDs that repeatedly turned to mastitis, worse every time.  One does of Phytolacca... mastitis free!
11:35:28 MamaKT oops, dose
11:35:30 kristenandmadeleine on the side kinda towards the underneath
11:35:33 Mod_ariana A good anti-inflamatory like ibuprofin is great.  It helps with the pain and (obviously) reduces inflamation so it can heal
11:35:37 mwalton Oh those hurt so bad!  I had one day before and yesterday..finally got it clear yesterday...it was totally my bad..I'd not been paying attention and had nursed on only one side during the night..D'oh!
11:35:57 rainingkisses If I have a plugged duct it always helps me to lay the baby on the bed and hunker over him/her and line the plug up with their nose
11:36:15 rainingkisses if I do that after a hot shower and some nipple scrubbing, it will almost always free the plug.
11:36:25 kristenandmadeleine nipple scrubbing?
11:36:54 Mod_ariana rainingkisses Yes, I'm wondering what nipple scrubbing is too!
11:36:54 rainingkisses hehe, yes, just rubbing it with a warm washrag in the shower, to try and open up the duct
11:37:05 rainingkisses I've used a toothbrush, too
11:37:31 Mod_ariana that sounds ouch
11:37:33 rainingkisses rub, squeeze out a little milk, repeat
11:37:37 rainingkisses oh no, not like sanding it off!
11:37:48 rainingkisses no more pressure than you'd get from the baby's suction.
11:37:55 Mod_ariana interesting
11:37:59 rainingkisses hehe
11:38:02 rainingkisses works for me, so far
11:38:22 Mod_ariana I got quite a few plugged ducts when my first son was young but haven't had one in probably a good 5 years
11:38:56 rainingkisses I
11:39:02 rainingkisses 've only had one the second time around
11:39:06 rainingkisses thank goodness
11:39:15 rainingkisses I suffered terribly with them when Charlie was a baby.
11:39:23 Mod_ariana Isn't it funny how each nursing relationship is different
11:40:22 kristenandmadeleine yeah
11:40:53 kristenandmadeleine ive been really lucky to have nothing go wrong yet.  we are farely new tothis at 2 months.
11:41:07 rainingkisses I thought I would have no problems the second time around, but we had issues
11:41:25 rainingkisses but nothing like the first time. I think it had a lot to do with the fact that I nursed Charlie throughout my pregnancy
11:41:58 Mod_ariana I really think that once your body knows what to do things go easier, not always problem free but easier
11:42:44 rainingkisses yeah
11:42:54 bethie24 hello, I'm new here I found the link through your post on the livejournal breastfeeding community. I have a 6 month old son.
11:42:56 rainingkisses childbirth was better the second time, even though I got ripped off!!
11:43:06 Mod_ariana bethie24 Welcome!
11:43:13 rainingkisses I heard all these things about how your labor is going to go faster, but mine was 18 hours the second time...
11:43:14 mwalton welcome!  nice to emet you
11:43:17 mwalton meet rather
11:43:22 rainingkisses hi bethie :)
11:43:23 Mod_ariana rainingkisses my first birth was a c-section so my second was like a first
11:43:29 Host_Housepoet 46 hours here yal
11:43:31 Host_Housepoet beat that! ;)
11:43:40 rainingkisses Annie sat sideways between my hips forever.
11:43:42 rainingkisses haha
11:43:46 rainingkisses You're the queen Noel
11:43:50 rainingkisses I have inserts for you, btw
11:43:52 Host_Housepoet well I know that crystal had like 56 but maybe she won't se ethis
11:43:53 Host_Housepoet more?
11:43:54 Host_Housepoet really
11:43:58 rainingkisses have to wait to ship them though
11:44:00 Host_Housepoet I have paypal for shipping for you then
11:44:02 mwalton wow, and I thought Connor at 36 hours was stubborn ;)
11:44:04 CrystalDOF 52
11:44:05 rainingkisses until DH gets paid
11:44:06 rainingkisses ok
11:44:09 bethie24 wow 46? mine was really easy 11 hours
11:44:11 kristenandmadeleine i had 5 hours
11:44:13 rainingkisses kettermans@earthlink.net
11:44:16 Host_Housepoet you're all lucky
11:44:19 CrystalDOF 52 hours
11:44:20 Host_Housepoet how much you want
11:44:22 CrystalDOF pure joy
11:44:22 Host_Housepoet YAH YAH
11:44:22 rainingkisses pushing Annie out was orgasmic, though!!
11:44:26 CrystalDOF LMAO
11:44:26 MamaKT 42 hours
11:44:28 Host_Housepoet I already told them crysta.
11:44:29 rainingkisses let me count them and I'll let you know
11:44:32 Host_Housepoet ok
11:44:33 kristenandmadeleine but i would have  taken 55 then get what i was given
11:44:37 Host_Housepoet oh more Hempy hemp?
11:44:39 rainingkisses yes
11:44:42 rainingkisses same kind
11:44:56 rainingkisses I also have some of those microfiber towels, do you want them?
11:45:00 Host_Housepoet ya I would have done it all over again right after he was born
11:45:03 Host_Housepoet oohhh sure
11:45:06 Host_Housepoet big ol package
11:45:12 Host_Housepoet any other fluff? ;)
11:45:12 rainingkisses I was going to post a bunch of crap for sale on cd but we can just make a deal ;)
11:45:14 mwalton welp connor's done nursing, which means I'm off take care all
11:45:17 rainingkisses I have some Crickett's hemp dipes
11:45:23 CrystalDOF i want
11:45:25 rainingkisses ten of them, size large
11:45:30 Mod_ariana mwalton Bey!
11:45:32 Host_Housepoet you like them?
11:45:34 rainingkisses yes
11:45:35 Mod_ariana or even Bye
11:45:38 Host_Housepoet will they even fit my boy?
11:45:40 rainingkisses they were Charlie's nighttime diapers
11:45:42 Host_Housepoet 38 pounds
11:45:48 Host_Housepoet he's a big one.
11:45:50 rainingkisses holy shit dude
11:45:53 rainingkisses sorry
11:45:57 Host_Housepoet haha
11:46:01 rainingkisses that just flew right off my fingers
11:46:14 rainingkisses I don't know, let me check the site and see
11:46:26 rainingkisses You must have butter coming out of your boobies Noel!
11:46:31 Host_Housepoet it's ok
11:46:35 Host_Housepoet he usually gets that reaction
11:46:41 bethie24 how old is he?
11:46:57 Host_Housepoet the big two
11:47:08 rainingkisses it says 25+ pounds
11:47:10 Host_Housepoet he's really tall too, 38 inches
11:47:19 rainingkisses and Charlie was still wearing them on the tightest snap setting when he potty learned.
11:47:24 Host_Housepoet interesting, I doubt you could shove an extra 13 in there. ;)
11:47:26 bethie24 wow, well that is good he's a big boy
11:47:33 Host_Housepoet I like the look of those dipes tho
11:47:36 Host_Housepoet I've seen them on ebay
11:47:40 rainingkisses yeah
11:47:46 rainingkisses they're good workhorse dipes
11:47:50 rainingkisses kinda bulky
11:47:58 rainingkisses but I like the ghetto bootay diaper butt!!
11:47:59 bethie24 my family wanted me to stop breastfeeding but they can't complain that will is too small, he is almost 20lbs at 6 months
11:48:05 itsajenism i get the same reaction from people when they find out how old my son is... he's huge
11:48:07 rainingkisses awwwww!
11:48:27 Host_Housepoet wow
11:48:30 Host_Housepoet that is a healthy baby
11:48:36 Host_Housepoet I was with a little chub last night
11:48:40 rainingkisses well, I was going to sell them for $7 each ppd or $60 for all ten.
11:48:44 Host_Housepoet he was 4 months old and 18 pounds
11:48:46 itsajenism 8.5 months - 24 pounds - 29 inches
11:48:46 rainingkisses if anyone's interested
11:48:53 rainingkisses Annie's 16 lbs at five months.
11:48:59 Host_Housepoet good size bebes
11:49:02 Host_Housepoet I love fat babies
11:49:07 Host_Housepoet fat mama milk babies!
11:49:22 itsajenism still no solids yet
11:49:34 rainingkisses I get all sad when I think about starting Annie on solids.
11:49:49 itsajenism haha.. me too
11:50:04 rainingkisses she
11:50:05 bethie24 we started on some solids but will hates the fruit, he likes a couple veggies like avacado and peas, I hate the diapers now though :(
11:50:12 rainingkisses oh yeah!
11:50:21 rainingkisses I remember the first time I fed Charlie wild rice!
11:50:29 rainingkisses yuck
11:50:33 bethie24 lol
11:50:44 rainingkisses quinoa is the worst, and groats
11:50:47 rainingkisses anything whole grain like that.
11:50:49 kristenandmadeleine have you guy heard of elinimation communication
11:50:52 rainingkisses good for them, bad for you
11:50:53 itsajenism if i could get awat with it, i wouldn't start solids until ds is potty trained ;)
11:50:59 rainingkisses yes, kristen
11:51:05 kristenandmadeleine starting off potty learning at like birth
11:51:27 bethie24 my husband asked me can't I just keep breastfeeding exclusively and can't he just stay this age :)
11:51:31 rainingkisses I think it makes sense, but I am not that hardcore and I think with two little kids there'd be poop and pee all over my house!
11:51:41 kristenandmadeleine yeah
11:51:48 rainingkisses I told my husband it'll be a shame when Charlie takes the boobies to the playground and loses them ;)
11:52:05 therealocelot we kind of did it. If I had a little baby right now I'd totally do it, since this house is ideal for it
11:52:50 rainingkisses I think it's a good idea
11:52:57 therealocelot (no carpet, easy to clean floors :)
11:53:23 rainingkisses Annie's at the peanut butter poop stage
11:53:46 rainingkisses She had one of my hairs in her diaper last night
11:53:55 itsajenism that's the stage we're at too
11:54:13 rainingkisses that freaked me out. My hair is like four feet long and I keep it up all the time, but..
11:54:39 bethie24 I was wondering what you say to other moms that formula feed? I have a friend that gave up on breastfeeding and it breaks my heart. She had a hard time but so did we and we got through it (pumping, nipple shield and all untill he was weaned off the shield)
11:54:43 rainingkisses I don't know that she ate it, it wasn't mixed with poo (sorry if this is tmi, btw) but it still freaked me out
11:54:45 Mod_ariana Oh hair gets all over the place
11:55:04 Mod_ariana my hair
11:55:05 rainingkisses what do you mean, bethie? I mean, what do we say in what context?
11:55:23 Mod_ariana I don't usually say anything
11:55:27 bethie24 well I want to educate without being pushy
11:55:30 rainingkisses I don't see too many of mine, but that kind of made me squicky Ariana
11:55:33 Mod_ariana I know how hard it was for me to start breastfeeding
11:55:38 rainingkisses I tend to do the cart check
11:55:46 rainingkisses if I see formula, I look away
11:55:49 Mama_K yes I keep my mouth shut, I've got nothing nice to say so I don't
11:56:00 Mod_ariana I know that if I hadn't had the awesome support I had I would very likely be a formula feeder
11:56:09 rainingkisses I try to be supportive of bf and just not say anything about the ff
11:56:19 Mod_ariana Not because I'm a bad person, but because it's really had to breastfeed with the way things are in our culture
11:56:40 bethie24 they had thrush and that was the last straw, and I was encouraging when she was still trying to bf but haven't said anything about the formula
11:57:07 rainingkisses OK, I have to go
11:57:12 therealocelot If she's receptive and doesn't already know, telling her the thigns you did might help. Some people don't know that there are options like nipple shields
11:57:14 bethie24 the only support I've gotten is from my husband, online and our ped
11:57:14 Mod_ariana Bye  rainingkisses
11:57:18 rainingkisses Annie's done with her morning marathon nap and nurse
11:57:25 Mama_K BFing was not easy for me, I had thrush mastisis, bloody nipples, but through all that I was successful in the end.
11:57:31 rainingkisses my other boob has leaked so much there's milk in my belly button!
11:57:42 itsajenism ha\
11:57:44 rainingkisses you guys have a great day
11:57:45 kittn lol rain
11:57:46 rainingkisses :)
11:57:49 kittn thats fantastic
11:57:59 Mama_K wow I did get here a bit late didn't i
11:58:02 rainingkisses hehe
11:58:10 rainingkisses my supply goes crazy
11:58:11 kittn me too mamma k
11:58:12 Mod_ariana Mama_K we're almost done officially""
11:58:20 rainingkisses since I'm tandem nursing
11:58:24 Mod_ariana but you are always welcome to hang out and chat
11:58:26 rainingkisses up and down but mostly up
11:58:28 Mama_K ah well
11:58:29 rainingkisses bye guys
11:58:31 rainingkisses smooooch
11:58:33 Mama_K better late then never
11:58:42 itsajenism i can't wait to tandum nurse
11:58:42 Mama_K have a good one rain
11:58:45 rainingkisses you too!
11:58:50 Mama_K thanks!
11:59:11 Mama_K kittin, you had a hard time too?
11:59:15 Mama_K or you were late too?
11:59:17 Mama_K :)
11:59:20 kittn i had a really tough time with my second
11:59:24 kittn this last one was WAY easier
11:59:27 kittn my first was cake
11:59:32 Mod_ariana isn't that funny
11:59:33 kittn both
11:59:37 Mod_ariana that the middle would be the easiest
11:59:43 Host_Housepoet ok everyone
11:59:47 kittn he was a preemie so it complicated things
11:59:47 Mod_ariana But now you've said cake and put a cravign in my  mind
11:59:51 Host_Housepoet it's about time to wrap up
11:59:55 Mama_K really? wow, having difficulty with the second, I always thought it would be ther efirst
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