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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #17
10/19/05

24 mamas in attendance

11:04:30 Mod_ariana that'd be 3 under 5~
11:04:35 lifeisstatic yes
11:04:38 Mod_ariana Host_Housepoet Really?
11:05:06 galadriel2006 hello everyone!
11:05:10 summermommy2004 hello
11:05:13 Mod_ariana Some times I think dh and I are the most cautious condom users on the planet!
11:05:22 Mod_ariana galadriel2006 HI!
11:05:27 Mod_ariana summermommy2004 Hi to you too!
11:05:33 summermommy2004 :-)
11:05:42 mwalton is today a formal one then?  what's on the agenda?
11:05:55 galadriel2006 i can't stay for long, but i'm here for at least about 15 minutes
11:06:00 itsajenism hi
11:06:15 galadriel2006 got class in under an hour
11:06:16 summermommy2004 I only have a few minutes but I thought I'd come before I have to go home to the babe  :)
11:06:24 galadriel2006 hehe
11:06:37 Mod_ariana mwalton no, it's a casual chat
11:06:52 summermommy2004 Just finished class here... had a Spanish quiz and got done a few minutes early so I thought I'd check LJ while I was otherwise unoccupied. hehe
11:06:52 mwalton heh oh ok...i'm a little slow on the uptake today ;)
11:07:15 Mod_ariana Housepoet and I have both been so so busy lately we haven't had time to come up with formal agendas
11:08:09 Mod_ariana mwalton how old is your baby?
11:08:14 galadriel2006 hehe
11:08:21 mwalton 5 months...although with his sleep pattern you'd think 3 weeks
11:08:22 galadriel2006 i understand not having time
11:08:40 Mod_ariana I feel like you've been around longer than that
11:08:46 mwalton we've been reading the no cry sleep solution and implementing it..but apparently since he can't read he doesn't agree with the techniques ;)
11:08:47 Mod_ariana I must be counting pregnancy time
11:08:55 itsajenism haha
11:09:12 Mod_ariana You know, I understand setting the stage for sleep and all that
11:09:28 Mod_ariana but I am a firm believer that kids will sleep when they're ready
11:10:00 Mod_ariana I never did any type of sleep training either routines or CIO or anything like that with my kids and William is 5 and (most of the time) falls asleep just fine
11:10:08 summermommy2004 Me too... my 16 month old still doesn't sleep through the night. I think I will have a heart attack the night she does. lol
11:10:16 Mod_ariana James is almost 2 1/2 and he nurses to sleep most nights but it works really well for us
11:10:38 Mod_ariana summermommy2004 both my kids started sleeping through the night right about 2
11:10:41 mwalton i'd settle for him sleeping say 3 hours at a block
11:10:54 Mod_ariana do you co-sleep?
11:10:56 galadriel2006 wow, i think i'd go crzay with that
11:10:56 mwalton yep
11:10:58 itsajenism that's the reason i didn't finish reading the NCSS... i like nursing ds to sleep at night
11:11:14 summermommy2004 well... she starts out in her crib most nights but she always ends up back with me after 3 or 4 hours.
11:11:16 itsajenism i don't see a reason to change something that works well
11:11:36 mwalton cosleeping is the only reason i haven't actually been committed to an insane assylum yet (since connor doesn't believe in naps either ;)
11:11:38 galadriel2006 we coslept with edmund until he was firmly sleeping the  night
11:11:56 galadriel2006 then he moved to a crib, which was a pretty painless process
11:12:01 mwalton well that's not true..he takes 20 min naps about 10 am
11:12:12 Mod_ariana He sounds like my first son
11:12:28 Mod_ariana He needs so much less sleep than the average baby/person
11:12:41 Mod_ariana It drives me crazy as I need MORE sleep than the average
11:13:13 mwalton see i don't need a ton..but i realized yesterday that what I consider an EXCELLENT night is one where he only wakes up 4-5 times and i get 5 hours of sleep
11:13:23 Host_Housepoet mwalton
11:13:29 Host_Housepoet how old is your son Connor?
11:13:33 mwalton 5 months
11:13:35 summermommy2004 unfortunately i gotta hit the road already ladies... time to go get the little boober :) have a great chat!!
11:13:37 Host_Housepoet and no naps?
11:13:39 Host_Housepoet wow
11:13:43 Mod_ariana summermommy2004 Bye!
11:13:47 Host_Housepoet my Aiden doesn't nap ususally and he's two!
11:13:56 Nomentionofme hi everyone
11:14:01 Mod_ariana Nomentionofme Hello!
11:14:06 lifeisstatic How old were your kids when they started sleeping in their own bed?
11:14:08 ilovezoeystar Hey mammas!
11:14:16 mwalton it's gotten better...now i usually get 2 20 min naps a day out of him (thanks to the ncss)
11:14:33 Mod_ariana William was 3 when he started sleeping on his own semi-consistently (sp?)
11:14:37 Host_Housepoet morning  ilovezoeystar
11:15:11 Mod_ariana but that was still in our room
11:16:10 Nomentionofme i went to my LLL meeting last week and i was so proud of one of the mothers.... right after Katrina hit she nursed 3 babies other than her own
11:16:20 Mod_ariana Now he sleeps on his own in his own room most of the time
11:16:28 Nomentionofme because of the lack of formula and clean water..
11:16:29 mwalton wow...good for her
11:16:37 galadriel2006 wow... that's awesome!
11:16:40 Mod_ariana Nomentionofme oh, that's so beautiful
11:16:59 mwalton hope she's not suffering from oversupply now!
11:17:07 Nomentionofme she had been struggeling with supply issues... not anymore :)
11:17:21 galadriel2006 i guess not!
11:17:27 mwalton lol yeah that's one way to up the supply ;)
11:17:37 ilovezoeystar wow, thats amazing
11:18:04 Mod_ariana Wow I wonder how much *time* she spent nursing!
11:18:15 Nomentionofme i believe a lot of mothers around here will think twice about breastfeeding now...
11:18:16 Mod_ariana 4 babies... that's a lot
11:18:17 ilovezoeystar i thought about how lucky i'd be if I lived there...having full nurishment for my baby...
11:19:45 galadriel2006 it must be so terrible to not be able to feed your baby
11:19:47 Nomentionofme well i evacuated but i kept thinking when i would see the news footage wow they would be okay if they would have just breastfed their babies....
11:20:05 galadriel2006 just take things like the availability of formula for granted
11:20:19 Mod_ariana It's really sad.
11:20:29 ilovezoeystar it so is
11:20:38 Mod_ariana And it's hard to talk about it because some people are so sensetive
11:20:49 galadriel2006 especially since it's so danged unnecessary
11:21:10 ilovezoeystar i know, it makes me a little mad...
11:21:16 Nomentionofme i mean i am in mississippi on the gulfcoast and many places here the water is still not safe
11:22:03 lifeisstatic Well ladys I gtg. I have to get ready for my wic appointment
11:22:17 Mod_ariana lifeisstatic see you soon.  Let us know what happens with the next test!!!!
11:22:19 Nomentionofme have a good day
11:22:24 mwalton take care..hope you figure things out with the test
11:22:38 lifeisstatic will do *)
11:24:36 Janice Nomentionofme - do you think the mom from Katrina who nursed other babies, would be interested in being interview by a reporter, and sharing her story?  This needs to be documented
11:24:53 Janice She should at least write it up for the LLL magazine.
11:24:57 galadriel2006 i agree
11:25:31 Nomentionofme i am not sure i will talk to her soon and find out.... i think she does need to share the story though...
11:25:38 Janice I'm sure I could find a reporter to interview her, or even a bfing researcher who would write up the case for the medical journals
11:26:11 galadriel2006 that would be a pretty clear witness that women are made to be able to nurse at least one baby
11:26:18 Janice I know that sometimes researchers will write up an unusual case like this and submit it to the journals and get it documented
11:26:49 Nomentionofme most definately she is military so i will try to get in tough with her this afternoon...
11:27:04 galadriel2006 military or militant?
11:27:44 Nomentionofme she is a seabee in the navy so it has been hard to get in tough with her with all this post storm stuff
11:27:51 Nomentionofme touch
11:28:14 galadriel2006 gotcha
11:28:38 Nomentionofme are you on livejournal also... once i talk to her i couldpost there to get in touch with you?
11:28:51 Janice if she agrees. please email me at momsformilk@sasktel.net
11:28:54 Mod_ariana Nomentionofme is this your LJ name or is it different?
11:29:10 Janice I've never been on livejournal, I should try it
11:29:21 galadriel2006 yes
11:29:29 galadriel2006 i think you would enjoy boob_nazis
11:29:38 Janice I mostly hang at the  bf advocacy boards at mothering.com
11:29:42 galadriel2006 janice, i think i know you from the nyc nurse-out list
11:30:01 galadriel2006 this is rosetintedglasses2006 from that yahoo list
11:30:03 Nomentionofme i will do that janice....
11:30:04 Janice yes, that was me that helped organize the NYC nurse-in
11:30:32 Mod_ariana So has anyone seen the latest Hathor comic?
11:30:39 Host_Housepoet So did everyone see Hothor's new commic?
11:30:42 Host_Housepoet hahaa
11:30:44 Janice it wouldn't load when it tried
11:30:45 Host_Housepoet ARIANA!
11:30:48 Host_Housepoet you're in my brain!
11:30:53 Mod_ariana http://www.thecowgoddess.com/archshow.asp?var=182
11:30:53 Host_Housepoet no wonder we're great partners
11:31:02 Mod_ariana ooops sorry
11:31:04 Mod_ariana ;)
11:31:26 Mod_ariana Sometimes when I first get the comics they won't load.
11:31:33 Mod_ariana I think everyone is hitting her server at the same moment
11:31:42 Mod_ariana but they usually do just fine a little later
11:31:49 quartercentury I just saw it now.
11:32:17 Janice I just read it - are those the reals sponsors of the study?
11:32:20 quartercentury I don't know why I should be surprised, but the fact that medical professionals allow themselves to be swayed by shite like that...
11:32:24 quartercentury Grrr...
11:32:33 Host_Housepoet I'm not surprised
11:32:37 Mod_ariana A few of us have emailed Hathor trying to get back up info
11:32:38 Host_Housepoet big business runs things
11:32:38 quartercentury Yep, from other stuff I read (mostly on MDC) those are the sponsors.
11:34:12 Nomentionofme i have to go Deegan woke up in a very bad mood
11:34:31 galadriel2006 have a good day!
11:34:33 galadriel2006 i'm out too
11:34:38 Mod_ariana Nomentionofme see you later!
11:34:40 Janice Please let me know what the moms from Katrina says.  bye!
11:34:44 galadriel2006 time to leave for class
11:34:50 Nomentionofme i will janice
11:34:56 galadriel2006 aquinas yons before me
11:35:12 galadriel2006 talk to y'all soon!
11:35:18 Mod_ariana galadriel2006 bye!
11:35:23 Host_Housepoet bye everyone
11:35:36 Host_Housepoet I see an east la chola up in this place
11:35:39 Host_Housepoet CRYSTAL.
11:35:52 CrystalDOF bueno
11:36:15 talula_fairie hi
11:36:25 Mod_ariana CrystalDOF Hello
11:36:29 Mod_ariana talula_fairie hi!
11:36:34 CrystalDOF hi
11:36:45 Host_Housepoet my girl
11:36:46 Host_Housepoet crystal
11:36:47 Mod_ariana talula_fairie how's Jane today?
11:36:53 talula_fairie wild
11:36:56 talula_fairie crawling around the bedroom
11:36:59 CrystalDOF I'm evrydayjnglbtch from lf
11:37:03 Mod_ariana isn't she always
11:37:11 talula_fairie oh, and i think she's pooping, fun
11:37:48 Ca-Rinn hehe
11:38:01 Mod_ariana Ca-Rinn Hi
11:38:07 Ca-Rinn hi
11:38:21 Mod_ariana I like your name.  Is that like Karen? or pronounced different?
11:38:23 Ca-Rinn im carinn from lj... who woulda guessed
11:38:39 Mod_ariana Oh, ok.  Cool
11:38:48 Ca-Rinn Karen is my real name... but my friend pronounces it as Ca Rinn
11:38:52 Mod_ariana Sometimes it's so hard
11:39:03 Mod_ariana I usually know people not even by their user names but by their icons
11:39:08 Mod_ariana and there's no icons here!!
11:39:34 Host_Housepoet maybe we should tell tina that we need icons here
11:39:35 quartercentury those people with lots of icons confuse me
11:39:35 Mod_ariana I'm arianamama on LJ
11:39:36 Host_Housepoet ;)
11:39:42 Host_Housepoet gee....who am I from LJ?
11:39:54 talula_fairie this is my lj username
11:40:00 talula_fairie heh
11:40:02 Mod_ariana See, I registered as arianamama here but then some HOST changed my name!!!
11:40:08 Mod_ariana ;)
11:40:16 Mod_ariana forced me into mod-dom
11:40:24 Ca-Rinn lol
11:40:32 talula_fairie brb diaper
11:41:08 Ca-Rinn gosh i am so upset now... im glad Gwenny is getting papaw time... or shed be freaking out probably...
11:41:13 Janice btw, there is an EC interview on a Canadian talk radio station this afternoon
11:41:33 Mod_ariana So, lately I've been feeling like James is heading down the road to weaning.  He's almost 2 1/2
11:41:39 Ca-Rinn wow
11:41:42 mwalton AW...I'M SORRY
11:41:54 Mod_ariana The way things are going are really reminding me of when William weaned at almost 3
11:41:56 mwalton sorry connor hit the caps lock
11:42:04 Mod_ariana mwalton thank you.
11:42:12 Mod_ariana It's a really weird feeling.
11:42:27 Mod_ariana I mean I know I have at least several more months of nursing left
11:42:38 Mod_ariana but it's just reminding me that I won't always be nursing.
11:42:44 Mod_ariana Some day that part of my life will be over
11:42:46 Mod_ariana it's tough
11:42:50 Ca-Rinn :(
11:43:31 Mod_ariana Ca-Rinn I just opened a new window to look you up on LJ
11:43:39 Mod_ariana Now I see your icon and know who you are!
11:43:41 greymouse Is he your last baby?
11:43:50 Mod_ariana greymouse hi!
11:44:02 Mod_ariana I'm not totally sure if he's our last
11:44:08 talula_fairie i love me some turds in the morning
11:44:08 Mod_ariana we have no plans to have another
11:44:13 Mod_ariana we'll see
11:44:15 greymouse Hi, decided to pop in while I'm on my lunch break.  Normally I'm at work during these things.
11:44:24 Host_Housepoet greymouse hello!
11:44:33 Mod_ariana I'm 34 so I don't have forever to think about it
11:44:44 Mod_ariana I don't want to still be having babies at 40.  It just isn't for me
11:45:30 doulasteph Isn't this the breastfeeding chat room?
11:45:33 greymouse The husband and I are discussing trying again when Sophia is 3.  She's 16 months right now.
11:45:44 Mod_ariana doulasteph yes it is
11:45:47 talula_fairie yes it is doulasteph
11:45:52 talula_fairie i think it's casual chat today, yes?
11:45:59 Mod_ariana greymouse I think 3 years is a good time frame
11:46:06 doulasteph I thought it was BF advocacy...wrong time maybe?
11:46:07 Mod_ariana That's how far apart my two are
11:46:20 Mod_ariana doulasteph it is the BF advocacy chat
11:46:32 Mod_ariana it's a casual chat today so we're discussing BF in general
11:46:32 doulasteph I have 4 kids, my first 2 are 3 years apart and my second 2 are 3 yeard apart.   l like it
11:46:40 Ca-Rinn i think i might want to have a baby when i'm forty... but when i'm going to be forty Gwenny is gonna be twenty... and i dont want to have to have a baby and to pay for college too!
11:46:47 doulasteph Thanks Ariana
11:46:56 greymouse I want to be done having babies by the time I'm 30.
11:47:01 Mod_ariana Ca-Rinn that'd be weird
11:47:02 talula_fairie I was aiming for aprox 20-24 months apart, and since it took two years to concieve baby #1 I figured we should start TTC early...I concived on the first try o.O
11:47:08 Mod_ariana You two could have babies together!!
11:47:11 talula_fairie my kids will be 16 months apart
11:47:15 Ca-Rinn lol
11:47:19 talula_fairie they'll be nearly irish twins!
11:47:29 Ca-Rinn hehe
11:47:35 Ca-Rinn congrats Talula
11:47:40 talula_fairie thanks
11:47:48 doulasteph Anyone else been torn by a biting baby?
11:47:59 Mod_ariana Thankfully no!  doulasteph
11:48:00 talula_fairie I've only been bitten once
11:48:01 Ca-Rinn no
11:48:02 Mod_ariana Have you?
11:48:08 talula_fairie but I have a good link for biting and breastfeeding
11:48:09 talula_fairie lemme find
11:48:21 Mod_ariana talula_fairie are you getting babyslime's post?  ;)
11:48:25 doulasteph I always get scared at this point.  My second child torn my right breast and I needed stitches to close it
11:48:33 talula_fairie I am
11:48:40 Ca-Rinn my mom said that my sister used to bite her, and would make faces like what? im not doing anything bad mommy.." at her"
11:48:40 Mod_ariana doulasteph WOW!  How'd that happen?
11:48:41 doulasteph Thanks talula
11:48:49 Ca-Rinn OWIE!
11:49:02 talula_fairie http://www.livejournal.com/users/jucifer/247956.html
11:49:22 doulasteph Ariana, it was at the end of a feed, he was 8 months old and bit down as he fell off" and his 2 bottom teeth "tore" a hole.  My youngest is almost 6 months and teething."
11:49:35 doulasteph So Im getting "uptight" and it affects my letdown"
11:49:49 doulasteph Thanks talula
11:49:49 talula_fairie eek
11:49:53 Mod_ariana Yikes.  I've had that happen but never to that degree.  It'd just hurt for a minute and then be fine
11:50:43 doulasteph Right now my youngest has no teeth, and my 3rd never bit at all, but my almost 6 month old gums me hard.  Trying to break her of it now
11:51:54 Mod_ariana Get the latch as good as you can now.
11:52:01 doulasteph This weekend is my first night out.  GOing clubbing and hoping I don'tdribble" through my clothes"
11:52:02 Mod_ariana Don't allow lazy latching if at all possible
11:52:21 talula_fairie It happened to me the other day, and she has one sharp tooth, and omg, combined with being pregnant
11:52:23 Mod_ariana It's a little like starting over again, with good positioning and all that jazz
11:52:26 talula_fairie I saw stars
11:52:26 doulasteph Thanks Ariana.  My MW told me the same thing
11:52:47 doulasteph Oh Talula, I feel for ya!
11:53:02 doulasteph brb
11:53:07 Mod_ariana I think there comes a time when children are older where they literally aren't able to latch correctly anymore
11:53:10 talula_fairie doulasteph i feel for you too! it sounds awful to get bitten constantly
11:53:13 Mod_ariana it happened with my first
11:53:18 Mod_ariana He was over 2 1/2
11:53:30 Mod_ariana and he just literally couldn't latch right
11:53:39 Mod_ariana He'd known how the week before and he'd TRY
11:53:52 Mod_ariana I could see him trying but it was like his mout un-learned it
11:54:11 Mod_ariana it just started happening more an dmore frequently and then he fully weaned
11:54:22 Mod_ariana and James has now started to do that too
11:54:58 Mod_ariana But I think at 6 months you just go back to the basics and make sure you do all the right positioning/latchng things
11:55:52 doulasteph Actually Talula, my son only bit me that once!  I think my SCREAM deterred any further instances.  I nursed almost exclusively on the left for the remainder of our nursing relationship.  I couldn't let down the same on the other side
11:56:14 Mod_ariana doulasteph well that's good.
11:56:23 talula_fairie that's good
11:56:24 Mod_ariana It kinda sounds like it was a bit of a freak accident
11:56:34 talula_fairie i haven't had problems with letdown since
11:56:46 talula_fairie I'm actually not sure if it was an actual bite or she was trying to much her way on badly
11:56:57 talula_fairie i was nursing and watching tv and not paying attention
11:57:04 doulasteph YEah, he was falling asleep and you know when you nod off and your head falls back....it was kinda like that.  But as his head fell back his bit down hard to hold on" to hte nipp;e"
11:57:14 talula_fairie *shudder*
11:57:25 Mod_ariana I totally know waht you're talking abotu doulasteph
11:57:25 doulasteph me too talula
11:57:32 doulasteph watching TV....
11:58:00 Mod_ariana Once we were nursing in bed and I fell asleep and tried to roll over while James was still attached
11:58:11 Ca-Rinn owwwww...
11:58:14 Host_Housepoet it's coming up on that time ladies, but please feel free to continue chatting :)
11:58:15 Mod_ariana He held on for dear life!!  And he's over 2 so he has a full mouth of teeth
11:58:27 Ca-Rinn ><
11:58:28 Mod_ariana I woke everyone in the bed up with my scream
11:58:32 quartercentury Youch.
11:58:41 Mod_ariana But it hurt for one minute and then was fine
11:58:49 doulasteph I think our incidents would have been enough to killa nursing relationship for some.  I had an ER doc tell me He's 8 months he doesnt' NEED to nurse.  You can switch to formula now..."  Um NO!"
11:58:51 Mod_ariana Maybe I have steel boobs
11:59:02 Mod_ariana UGH
11:59:03 doulasteph OW Ariana!
11:59:09 quartercentury Ugh. Such bad doctor advice.
11:59:10 Mod_ariana I hate medical discouragement of BF
11:59:14 Mod_ariana It really gets me
11:59:25 Ca-Rinn yeah, me too
11:59:29 talula_fairie me too
11:59:34 Mod_ariana Especially since most docs obviously don't know *anything* about BF!
11:59:42 talula_fairie esp the way the nurses were to me when my baby was a newborn
12:00:04 talula_fairie she was in the NICU for four days to rule out sebsis because she was born with a fever (she was fine) and i swear the nurses nearly ruined my bfing relationship
12:00:14 talula_fairie it took me three months to repair it all the way after what they did
12:00:32 doulasteph My formerfamily doc was great.  He was blunt but good info.  Stephanie, that's what they were MADE for.  They weren't MADE to look good in a push up bra." He said this when I was complaining about unlatching a nursing bra...."
12:00:32 talula_fairie :what's the mothering topic today
12:00:34 talula_fairie anyone know?
12:01:05 Mod_ariana I want to say the speaker's name is Bee Lavender
12:01:09 doulasteph Breastfeedgin Advocacy isn't it?
12:01:11 Mod_ariana am I totally off?
12:01:26 quartercentury That sounds right to me
12:01:33 quartercentury But I've got to go!
12:01:37 quartercentury Ta ta!
12:02:00 Mod_ariana http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-1932360646-0
12:02:05 Mod_ariana That's a link to info on her book
12:02:20 doulasteph Ok, I have to admit somethingpersonal.  It freaks me out thatmy DH is NOT freaked out by leaking boobs during relations".  My ex-dh would not TOUCH my boobs while I was nursing my first 2"
12:02:48 talula_fairie I never leaked during that time, but my hubby doesnt seem freaked out by touching them or whatever
12:02:50 Mod_ariana Well, I think leaking during sex is great
12:02:53 talula_fairie I am teh one who doesn't like it
12:03:01 talula_fairie it wierds me out! i don't know why
12:03:04 Mod_ariana Often it means that you've had an orgasm
12:03:13 Mod_ariana DH should be happy about that! ;)
12:03:20 talula_fairie it's like it reminds me of nursing and I dunno. it's hard to separate the two in my mind
12:03:39 Mod_ariana I can understand that some people feel like that
12:03:50 talula_fairie Ihope when I'm done nursing I'll have my boobs back again. they're kind of desexualized to me now!
12:04:03 Mod_ariana I feel like preganancy, birth, breastfeeding, parenting -- it's all really part of sexuality
12:04:22 Mod_ariana It's all linked.  Obviously you don't have the same feelings for your children as your husband
12:04:34 Mod_ariana but it's all part of the circle of life
12:04:38 doulasteph I don't even have to orgasm to have minor leaking....just feeling good".  He is not thrown off at all.  It's not like he's nursing on me but he doesn't avoid either.  I should really be happy about that.  But still getting used to it."
12:05:09 talula_fairie I'm not even squeamish or anything, it just doesnt feel the same
12:05:14 talula_fairie *shrug*
12:05:17 talula_fairie ok i have a baby to tend to
12:05:23 talula_fairie she's about to have a hernia
12:05:28 Mod_ariana You can let him know that it's a little weird to you so he might want to go slow
12:05:31 Host_Housepoet Come join our weekly Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat, led by Host_Housepoet of www.breastfeedingisnormal.com , every Wednesday: 9-10am pacific, 10-11am mountain, 11am-12pm central, 12-1pm eastern. In the Breastfeeding" chat room."
12:05:32 talula_fairie i put her in baby prison for a minute (the crib)
12:05:33 doulasteph Speaking of the baby...mine's up!  Thanks for the great biting info ladies.  TIme to cuddle a baby.  NOw I just have to find where my 3 year old hid hte sling.......
12:05:44 talula_fairie have a good day ladies!
12:05:49 Mod_ariana Bye Ladies!!

 

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