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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #19
11/2
/05

21 mamas in attendance

12:00:56 Host_Housepoet Hi ladies! I hope everyone is having a wonderful morning so far. I have a little item to share with you. Recently my DS who is 25 months and still nursing, started nursing HIS baby. It's really wonderful to see that I am passing on something very important to him and he's picking it up and acting like it's the most normal thing ever. He even carries his baby in a sling. It's very sweet.
12:01:06 Host_Housepoet ..
12:01:07 Host_Housepoet So thank you all for nursing your babies, or planning on nursing future children. Applause for you all!
12:01:18 kristenandmadeleine hi all
12:01:31 andshedied hi everyone.
12:02:03 andshedied Noel, that's cute that he nurses his babies too. My daughter often tandem nurses her babes. And this was before I was tandem nursing her and her sister. :P
12:02:16 Host_Housepoet That is wonderful.
12:02:39 Host_Housepoet It's really great that our kids are see that breastfeeding is normal and they will pass that on to the people they marry and their kids as well
12:02:46 andshedied And hard. any tandem nursing moms in the room?
12:03:02 talula_fairie I'll likely be tandem nursing in a few more months :) I doubt Jane will wean before then, at least, I hope she won't. I want to nurse until at least 2
12:03:07 galadriel2006 haha
12:03:18 galadriel2006 guess we won't be saying anything too bad then
12:03:18 Mod_ariana And I always like to stress that it's just as important to teach BOYS as it is to teach girls.
12:03:24 kristenandmadeleine i dont think i will be tandum nursing
12:03:31 Mod_ariana These are future dads and we all know how important dad's support is
12:03:56 andshedied I was afraid Eva would wean before the baby was born, but she kept on going, even when there was nothing there. Now it's hard because she wants to nurse as much (if not more) than the baby.
12:04:06 galadriel2006 awww
12:04:15 Mod_ariana My son weaned while I was pregnant
12:04:20 Mod_ariana but he was almost 3 years old
12:04:21 kristenandmadeleine by the time we ttc for no 2 i want madeleine potty learn ed and weaned
12:04:32 andshedied Definately important for the dads support. I don't know what I'd do if their father pushed formula or didn't find breastfeeding that important.
12:04:33 Host_Housepoet oh potty learning
12:04:39 Host_Housepoet we're doing that right now as well
12:04:46 Host_Housepoet no weaning in sight though
12:05:03 Host_Housepoet ok I just want to throw this link out there for eveyone to read
12:05:04 Host_Housepoet http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/100586.php
12:05:09 andshedied :) We started potty learning Eva at a young age, and took it verrrry slow. She's potty learned now. :) Still has a few accidents, but that's too be expected.
12:05:15 kristenandmadeleine im gonna do child led weaning, so shell let us know when she is ready
12:05:21 Host_Housepoet it looks like Arizona is going to be the next state to pass a state law protecting mothers
12:05:32 galadriel2006 yay!
12:05:36 Host_Housepoet there are already laws passed in Chandlar, and Tuscon is next it seems
12:05:41 Host_Housepoet Any AZ moms in here?
12:05:46 kristenandmadeleine florida has laws
12:06:01 Host_Housepoet We tried to have the women that are spear heading this movement come to the chat today, but this time isn't good for them
12:06:12 Host_Housepoet We're going to try and round them up for a night time chat which we will annouce to the list
12:06:15 Mod_ariana ohhh, I just checked my email. and I finally got approved to that list
12:06:28 Host_Housepoet make sure you visit http://breastfeedingisnormal.org and sign up for the mailling list if you haven't already
12:06:35 Host_Housepoet brb DS wants some banana bread!
12:06:42 minicooper argh my nursling just threw the laptop off the arm of the couch and now the power cord isn't working
12:06:43 summermommy2004 i want banana bread
12:06:44 summermommy2004 lol
12:06:51 kristenandmadeleine me too
12:07:00 minicooper ok i fixed it whew
12:07:02 minicooper lol
12:07:15 kristenandmadeleine i have some canned pumpkin in the cupboard.  need to make somethng
12:07:26 Mod_ariana pumpkin muffins!!
12:07:31 andshedied make pumpking bread. Mmm mmm good.
12:07:32 Mod_ariana easy and quick and so yummy
12:07:41 kristenandmadeleine i gotta make it vegan
12:08:15 Host_Housepoet Trader JOes banana bread
12:08:18 Host_Housepoet it's the awesome!
12:08:21 Mod_ariana hmmm, so no eggs, huh
12:08:28 kristenandmadeleine yea
12:08:35 Host_Housepoet completely possible! :) and yummy too
12:08:35 Mod_ariana do you use soy powder instead?
12:08:36 theotherhand I have a few recipes that may work...let me look (loves the baking)
12:08:37 andshedied Well, I am really glad that Tucson is protecting breastfeeding. I hope the rest of the state follows suit. I lived in Az, and never had a problem breastfeeding in public, but it'd still be nice for a mom to know she has every right to take care of her chil
12:08:45 kristenandmadeleine i can di milk, but the hubby doesnt do eggs
12:08:49 Host_Housepoet absolutely  andshedied
12:08:57 Host_Housepoet So we're keeping a close eye on AZ
12:09:06 Host_Housepoet and watching their steps to make this state law happen
12:09:20 Host_Housepoet once it does, it's almost like a blue print for the rest of the 14 states to follow suit
12:09:27 Host_Housepoet soon we'll have laws in every state
12:09:37 kristenandmadeleine what other states have no laws?
12:10:09 Host_Housepoet There is a list here
12:10:10 Host_Housepoet http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/Activism/StateLawFlyers
12:10:12 andshedied :)
12:10:29 Host_Housepoet You can download your state law on a flyer and print them from  your home computer
12:10:38 Host_Housepoet or even send the doc. to Kinkos and have them print it
12:10:50 kristenandmadeleine mmmmm.  i cant click the link
12:10:54 Host_Housepoet Your local copy shop might be able to do it for free even, if you tell them that we are a non profit
12:10:59 heffalump_05 hi.
12:11:02 edwardsmom Wow! Pa has no law? I had no idea!!
12:11:03 kristenandmadeleine hey!
12:11:04 Host_Housepoet we encourage all moms to keep the law with them at all times
12:11:05 andshedied A week or so ago, I saw a commercial in which the governor advocated breastfeeding at least 12 months.
12:11:13 andshedied [Im in New Mexico, btw]
12:11:15 Host_Housepoet that's awesome  andshedied
12:11:16 therealocelot I can never click links in here either
12:11:50 Host_Housepoet you see the two little 'papers' in the menu above where you're typing?
12:12:00 Host_Housepoet click them and it will open up the text box, you can copy and paste the link
12:12:02 Host_Housepoet http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/Activism/StateLawFlyers
12:12:07 therealocelot ah
12:12:14 heffalump_05 is it ok to ask the ever so common question of what can I take when I am miserably sick with a cold and some kind of weird eye issue?
12:12:16 Host_Housepoet I have trouble with the links too
12:12:24 Host_Housepoet I'll have to ask Tina the Webmama about that one
12:12:54 galadriel2006 breastmilk in the eye actually helped when i had an eye infection
12:13:06 andshedied We should make nursing shirts with the state law's code on them. :P
12:13:17 galadriel2006 haha
12:13:27 Mod_ariana heffalump_05 http://www.kellymom.com/health/meds/cold-remedy.html
12:13:40 kristenandmadeleine its so funny that we have to fight for something that is natural
12:13:43 heffalump_05 thanks! my google just isnt working.
12:13:43 Mod_ariana But I am not sure about the eye
12:14:04 Host_Housepoet that's a great idea  andshedied
12:14:07 heffalump_05 my eye is like.. swollen half shut. I have a doctors appointment today anyways
12:14:17 Host_Housepoet wow, you're an asset to this chat today, where have you been all this time??
12:14:29 Host_Housepoet I would say breastmilk in the eye would help it out
12:14:38 Host_Housepoet Breastmilk is honestly the cure all.
12:14:52 Mod_ariana It sounds like some kind of infection.
12:15:30 heffalump_05 lol well i guess i shall put some in my eye
12:15:41 andshedied :)
12:15:41 Mod_ariana Know that if the doctor gives you an antibiotic it could increase your risk of thrush.
12:15:43 Mod_ariana http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/thrush/preventing-thrush.html
12:15:58 Host_Housepoet I've put booju on my zits, and cuts and they'
12:16:03 andshedied woot. Ariana is our information desk. :P
12:16:04 Host_Housepoet They've healed nicely and quickly
12:16:07 heffalump_05 yeah I know we just got over thrush when i had a bladder infection.
12:16:10 Host_Housepoet that she is. she's amazing
12:16:16 Host_Housepoet I don't know what I would do without her
12:16:24 Mod_ariana :heart:
12:16:35 galadriel2006 we'd be screwed
12:17:26 Host_Housepoet totally
12:17:28 andshedied we'd be thrushy haha
12:17:36 Host_Housepoet Here is another link I'd like to share with you all as well off the site
12:17:37 Host_Housepoet http://breastfeedingisnormal.org/BreakingNews/RSS
12:17:40 heffalump_05 uh oh
12:17:42 galadriel2006 hehe!
12:17:51 Host_Housepoet That is our live news feed and you can pick up all the latest breastfeeding news there
12:17:59 galadriel2006 cool!
12:18:26 Host_Housepoet looks like AZ is at it again
12:18:27 Host_Housepoet http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=4060522&nav=14RT
12:19:23 minicooper nak - 22 months old
12:19:41 minicooper pinching me and playing with my mole
12:19:43 minicooper grrrrr
12:20:05 therealocelot I think I associate this chat too heavily with coffee
12:20:24 Mod_ariana So we have lots of women here who are breastfeeding advocates and want to help get more mommas breastfeeding
12:20:34 therealocelot I thought I'd pretty much broken my addiction when I was sick, but now suddenly I have a headache and I'm wanting coffee, even though I've only had one latte since Friday
12:20:45 therealocelot (and no real interest in coffee beyond that)
12:21:04 Mod_ariana If anyone here has been nursing for longer than 6 months and plans to nurse well past a year
12:21:11 Mod_ariana please consider becoming a breastfeeding mentor
12:21:27 Mod_ariana pass on your knowledge and encouragement to a new mom one on one through email
12:21:35 minicooper how do you do that
12:21:49 Mod_ariana There's a program on Live Journal called Adopt A Mom
12:21:52 Mod_ariana http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/74110.html
12:22:02 Mod_ariana That's the link where you can sign up to be a mentor
12:22:18 minicooper that's awesome
12:22:25 Mod_ariana we match new moms up to experienced breastfeeders so they can support them
12:22:31 Mod_ariana both with info and encouragement
12:22:36 Mod_ariana We have a HUGE need for mentors
12:22:45 minicooper that's a great idea
12:22:45 Mod_ariana the response by new moms is almost overwhelming
12:22:57 Mod_ariana It's an idea that got started in one of these chats actually!
12:22:58 Mod_ariana :)
12:22:59 Host_Housepoet It's been a lot of work
12:23:03 Mod_ariana It's a ton of work
12:23:06 Host_Housepoet but ariana handles it well
12:23:14 Mod_ariana but when the new moms succeed it's all worth it
12:23:17 Host_Housepoet oh so she lets on ;)
12:23:31 Mod_ariana we've even had some moms who were new" moms and now several months later they're mentoring newer moms themselves"
12:23:37 Mod_ariana it's like a huge pyramid scheme
12:23:46 Mod_ariana making more breastfeeders in the world
12:23:59 Host_Housepoet we're trying to take over the world one boob at a time
12:24:11 Mod_ariana I'm finally getting lots of helpers to administer the program
12:24:13 therealocelot two boobs at a time?
12:24:33 minicooper i feel bad... i can hardly talk about it with my friends
12:24:46 minicooper they know i'm hard core and it feels awkward bringing it up
12:24:57 minicooper when i know they don't agree with me
12:24:58 minicooper lol
12:25:08 Host_Housepoet well a set of boobs I suppose ;)
12:25:08 Mod_ariana That's tough
12:25:16 galadriel2006 i have to hit the road
12:25:21 galadriel2006 talk to y'all  soon@
12:25:21 Host_Housepoet peace out  galadriel2006
12:25:26 galadriel2006 bye!
12:25:29 minicooper later gator
12:25:34 Mod_ariana galadriel2006 hope you get your toilet fixed soon
12:25:43 galadriel2006 oh, me too
12:26:36 Mod_ariana Also, if you know a new mom who could use a mentor you can send her to one of these links
12:26:48 Mod_ariana For pregnant moms http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/73613.html?mode=reply
12:26:59 Mod_ariana Once they've already had the baby http://www.livejournal.com/community/adopt_a_mom/73366.html?mode=reply
12:27:27 Darcy Good morning everyone.
12:27:30 minicooper i guess that's a good group to get involved with because they come there for the help
12:27:33 minicooper Hi Darcy
12:27:36 Host_Housepoet DARCY!
12:27:39 Host_Housepoet that's my woman.
12:27:44 minicooper so it's not like you're giving unsolicted advice
12:27:47 Mod_ariana Hi!
12:27:49 Host_Housepoet if you ever get to meet this lady you're a lucky woman
12:27:53 minicooper or forcing your opinion on someone
12:27:55 Darcy AAWWWW
12:27:56 Host_Housepoet and her baby is so darn cute!
12:28:02 Mod_ariana minicooper yes
12:28:07 Darcy I'll give you that - he is the cutest thing.
12:28:07 Mod_ariana you're helping those that WANT help
12:28:15 Host_Housepoet exactly  Mod_ariana
12:28:20 Host_Housepoet and that is the point,
12:28:21 minicooper cool
12:28:22 Darcy He's sort of sick and he's just laying here on my lap like there's just no better place to be.
12:28:31 minicooper aw.. how old Darcy
12:28:40 Host_Housepoet but you know it's sad that we are called pushy and bitchy when we are trying to educate a woman on the dangers of not breastfeeding
12:28:44 Darcy 5 months this coming Saturday.
12:28:53 minicooper cool
12:28:54 Darcy Who are we educating today?
12:28:54 Host_Housepoet he is so cute
12:28:58 andshedied :)
12:28:58 Host_Housepoet all fatty and cute
12:29:21 minicooper i know.... i get mad when i hear them say i couldn't or the baby didn't want to
12:29:22 Mod_ariana Darcy we're talking about the adopt a mom program on live journal
12:29:31 Host_Housepoet minicooper we hear a lot of that too
12:29:39 Darcy Someone's being pissy about adopt a mom?
12:29:39 Host_Housepoet so if you're passionate then you should sign up to be a mentor
12:29:50 Host_Housepoet you could do some great work helping a mom who wants to breastfeed
12:29:53 minicooper it drives me crazy... though I know it's because they found it hard and dont' want to admit it
12:29:53 Mod_ariana No, we're saying it's nice to help people who WANT help
12:29:59 Host_Housepoet plus you have all the other mentors backing you up
12:30:02 Darcy Oh, good.
12:30:05 minicooper cool
12:30:08 minicooper i just might do that
12:30:16 minicooper actually i will do that
12:30:17 minicooper :)
12:30:18 Mod_ariana Yes, we're constantly asking each other for input in adopt a mom
12:30:30 Host_Housepoet no  minicooper is learning about AAM Darcy
12:30:37 Mod_ariana it's great because in essense each mom has over a hundred years of BF experience backing her up!!
12:30:38 Host_Housepoet you should sign up to be a mentor someday too
12:30:41 Host_Housepoet I think you'd make a great one
12:30:47 Host_Housepoet very true!
12:30:54 Darcy I'd love to when I have a few more months of this under my boobs.
12:30:56 minicooper my friend that i'm having a  hard time approaching about breastfeeding had an emergency c section
12:31:00 minicooper and so did i...
12:31:04 Host_Housepoet and who knows better, mom's who've bfed or a doctor who never even took a class on lactation? ;)
12:31:08 minicooper i think i got thrush about 6 times because of it
12:31:16 Mod_ariana I had a c-section too
12:31:26 Mod_ariana not quite an emergency but not scheduled either
12:31:33 Mod_ariana it was HARD BF after a c/s
12:31:36 andshedied emergency c-section with my first, HBAC with my second.
12:31:47 Mod_ariana I even wrote up an article about it.  Let me get you the link
12:31:54 Darcy Oooh HBAC  - that's awesome.
12:31:59 minicooper i was trying to have a home birth... home water birth... did 30 hours of labour at home and the rushed to the hospital when she broke my water and there was meconium
12:32:02 Mod_ariana I had a VBAC w/ #2, not a H though.  :(
12:32:07 minicooper i'mma try a HBAC if i have another
12:32:24 andshedied It's awesome. i highly recommend it.
12:32:24 Darcy The breastfeeding after cesarean thing is touch because lots of moms don't know that it will be more challenging to get started.
12:32:33 Darcy And then they think they just can't breastfeed.
12:32:38 kristenandmadeleine i breastfed after my c section
12:32:42 kristenandmadeleine i had a ton of interventions.
12:32:51 minicooper if i didn't believe so strongly about breastfeeding before having him i never would have lasted
12:32:52 minicooper never
12:32:55 minicooper me too
12:33:02 kristenandmadeleine but i was determined.    if you want it, youll do it no matter what.
12:33:04 minicooper me too kristen
12:33:08 minicooper yup
12:33:10 andshedied My daughter was sleepy after her birth. Didn't breastfeed well at all. Had formula. I couldn't pump a drop. It was awful.
12:33:25 Mod_ariana Here's my article on BF after a c-section
12:33:26 Mod_ariana http://www.livejournal.com/~arianamama/20904.html?mode=reply
12:33:54 andshedied But thanks to some BN mommas on LJ, they told me what to do, and I did it. And here we are, 26 months later. :)
12:34:13 Host_Housepoet seriously?
12:34:20 Host_Housepoet you claim that the BN's helped you with something?
12:34:26 Host_Housepoet oh my goodness!
12:34:29 Darcy 26 months - that is great.
12:34:31 Host_Housepoet someone needs to make an ICON
12:35:01 andshedied ROFL. Heck ya.
12:35:01 Host_Housepoet you know it was because of the BN's that I am still nurisng at 25 months as well
12:35:06 minicooper i'm going to NYC for training tomorrow... from Bridgeport connecticut... i was thinking about leaving my son overnight for the first time... because my husband won't come with me... but i can't be away from him for overnight... he nurses the most then...
12:35:15 Host_Housepoet I felt like I had a group of strong women that i would let down if I quit
12:35:19 minicooper and i'll be exploding out of my bra by the end of friday lmao
12:35:27 heffalump_05 if it werent for them BN i wouldnt have even started breastfeeding.
12:35:37 heffalump_05 I didnt want to breastfeed til i came to LJ.
12:35:37 Host_Housepoet wow that's awesome.
12:35:47 Host_Housepoet See we're not all that bad :) not like everyone says
12:35:56 minicooper i hate it when they call us militant
12:35:58 heffalump_05 the pregnant community really helped me..
12:36:02 Host_Housepoet so are you going to take him  minicooper
12:36:05 Host_Housepoet really>
12:36:10 Darcy I tried to join BN and I'm still waiting for an invite. . .
12:36:10 heffalump_05 obviously my daughter got more out of it..
12:36:12 Host_Housepoet I thought pregnant was full of ffers
12:36:18 heffalump_05 well yeah
12:36:18 Host_Housepoet I can vouce for you
12:36:22 Host_Housepoet I'll tell julie what's up
12:36:24 heffalump_05 but the BN that are there.
12:36:26 Host_Housepoet she's the mod over there
12:36:29 minicooper i can't take him by myself.. and my husband refuses to come with me enven though it would mean visiting his gramma and seeing NYC (his favourite place)
12:36:38 minicooper so i have to commute 2 hours each way $12 each way
12:37:09 Darcy I wouldn't give up a day in NYC.  Aaah - I love New York.
12:37:10 sugarcoated_poison_apple sorry i'm late!
12:37:11 minicooper and i have to wait until after 8 to come home both nights because the fare goes up between 5 and 8
12:37:13 heffalump_05 now I plan to breastfeed for as long as she wants me to.. shes growing like a bad weed on it so..
12:37:39 Mod_ariana heffalump_05 That's wonderful!
12:37:42 Mod_ariana How old is she now?
12:37:46 minicooper my girlfriend says she will try BF for 6 months and then go from there.. i hope she sees the light lol
12:37:47 Host_Housepoet hey SPA!
12:37:48 heffalump_05 8 weeks on friday.
12:37:57 Mod_ariana Awww that's wonderful
12:38:11 andshedied I've traveled with my daughter when she was younger. It was awesome and a lot easier on us both than if I left her behind.
12:38:12 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple  :heart:
12:38:27 Host_Housepoet :heart: agreed  Mod_ariana
12:38:32 minicooper yeah but i can't do the training with him there...
12:38:36 sugarcoated_poison_apple ooh, beware and fear my mod-like powers ..  :D
12:38:40 minicooper he's almost 2 and doesn't stop lol ever
12:38:45 Host_Housepoet hehe I love making you a mod
12:38:48 heffalump_05 Im very proud of her.. she latched on properly even the first time according to the nurses who were helping me in the recovery room after my section.
12:38:49 minicooper and my husband refuses to come with
12:38:55 minicooper so... i'm commuting both days
12:38:55 sugarcoated_poison_apple have i missed a lot?
12:39:18 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple I pressured people to become mentors in Adopt a Mom but you've been there done that
12:39:24 Mod_ariana ;)
12:39:33 minicooper i wouldn't call it pressuring ariana lol
12:39:43 minicooper who wouldn't want to
12:39:47 kristenandmadeleine gah, baby is fussy!!
12:39:52 minicooper it's an awesome idea
12:40:01 Host_Housepoet tell the bebe to knock it off mommy is chatting ;)
12:40:11 minicooper it's an awesome idea
12:40:21 MamaKT Hello!  I've been lurking... I just looked at the AAM site that you linked...
12:40:22 kristenandmadeleine i think we are starting to teeth
12:40:35 Mod_ariana MamaKT Hi
12:40:39 MamaKT It looks like a great idea
12:40:39 sugarcoated_poison_apple yeah, i've kinda lost touch with my girl actually and i've been feeling guilty about it; i think my e-mail is screwing up and not letting some e-mails be delivered to/from me ... bad e-mail
12:40:49 Darcy KristenandMadeleine - teething is a whole new thing. . .
12:40:54 MamaKT I noticed that the ap says to write a nursing story
12:41:02 Darcy my son got his first two teeth a week before he hit 4 months
12:41:07 Mod_ariana MamaKT Yes
12:41:15 Mod_ariana Many people get hung up by that
12:41:25 sugarcoated_poison_apple my baby started teething at about 2 1/2 months
12:41:26 Mod_ariana It's similar to a birth story but about breastfeeding
12:41:39 Mod_ariana If you look on the user info page you can see some exampes of nursing stories
12:41:55 MamaKT I take it that it's so that the other Mom's have a frame of reference for the mentor
12:42:08 Mod_ariana yes, partly
12:42:09 MamaKT okay
12:42:09 minicooper how do they get matched up?
12:42:21 Darcy A friend of a friend of mine had a baby this last week. . .
12:42:21 Mod_ariana it's also how your little sister" gets to know you"
12:42:26 minicooper the mentor and the mentoree
12:42:33 Darcy He's 9 days old now and at 3 days they got worried about jaundice. . .
12:42:33 Mod_ariana and it tells us a little bit about you and your style so we can match you up better
12:42:47 Darcy and the doctor asked that he go back to the hospital for a day. . .
12:42:56 Darcy and the baby got formula in the hospital . . .
12:42:59 heffalump_05 my adopted mom is great.. although i havent talked" to her in a while."
12:43:02 Mod_ariana When a mentee asks for a mentor we try to match her up to a mentor who has had experiences that will be most helpful to her
12:43:11 Darcy Has anyone ever heard of jaundice being an indicator for formula need at all?
12:43:18 Mod_ariana for example if a mom has had a c/s we try to match her with a c/s momma
12:43:19 Mod_ariana etc.
12:43:24 minicooper right
12:43:24 sugarcoated_poison_apple back in a sec ... have to lay the baby down; she's nursed to sleep on me and my arm is killing me ...
12:43:26 Darcy The good news is he's back on the boobie and breastfeeding is going _really_ well. . .
12:43:28 MamaKT excuse typos, DS is helping...  Idon't
12:43:32 heffalump_05 they tried to tell me that i had to give her formula when she was jaundiced
12:43:35 Darcy she's not sore or anything!
12:43:46 MamaKT I've only been  BF 6mo
12:43:54 andshedied unfortunately darcy, I hear that all the time. Breastmilk is BEST for jaundice because it helps them poop more than formula and helps them clear thieir system.
12:43:56 MamaKT But certainly had issues
12:44:01 andshedied Glad he's back on the breast.
12:44:12 Mod_ariana MamaKT I hope you'll join!!
12:44:13 MamaKT I'd be interested in mentoring, but it's not like I've been at it that long
12:44:28 minicooper you'd be helpful to new moms
12:44:31 Mod_ariana Like we said you have all the other mentors there to help you mentor
12:44:41 MamaKT oh!
12:44:42 minicooper you'd prolly remember more than i do about the beginning lol
12:44:46 Mod_ariana if you encounter something that you dont' know about you can make a post in the adopt a mom community
12:44:56 MamaKT ok
12:44:57 heffalump_05 when im older" at breastfeeding I'd love to be a mentor.. for right now.. 8 weeks isnt very much experience."
12:44:59 Mod_ariana (everything in there is locked) and we'll all try to give you links and stuff
12:44:59 therealocelot more recent experience with a young baby might actually be more helpful than having nursed one baby for a long time
12:45:27 therealocelot I mean, once they get past a certain age, it doesn't generally change very much
12:45:39 Mod_ariana therealocelot yes
12:45:49 Mod_ariana Sometimes I forget what those early days were like
12:45:51 minicooper i pumped at work for months and months
12:46:04 minicooper i grew to hate that pump lmao
12:46:07 MamaKT i still tremember the early days well!!!
12:46:17 minicooper had thrush too many times to count
12:46:19 sugarcoated_poison_apple ok, i'm back
12:46:26 minicooper he had a short tongue so we had issues
12:46:27 minicooper lol
12:46:37 minicooper was the hardest thing i've ever done
12:46:41 Host_Housepoet We've dealt with that issue before in AAm
12:46:44 MamaKT BRB --- CDiaper change
12:46:46 heffalump_05 short tongue?
12:47:11 minicooper then when i stopped working... when he was 1.5 years old... i thought my nipples were going to fall off
12:47:11 minicooper lmao
12:47:14 Host_Housepoet yea
12:47:22 minicooper i was around 24 hours... and he nursed like a newborn
12:47:24 minicooper every 2 hours
12:47:28 andshedied I forgot what it was all like, until I started nursing a newborn again. Then I learned how different they were!
12:47:28 Host_Housepoet we had a woman who had to have her baby clipped in order to latch properly
12:47:32 Host_Housepoet it worked and she's still bfing
12:47:32 minicooper yeah he had a bad time latching properly
12:47:52 minicooper it took some work
12:47:53 heffalump_05 so tongue tied?
12:47:56 Host_Housepoet CRYSTAL
12:48:08 minicooper they never refered to it as that
12:48:11 minicooper but maybe
12:48:26 minicooper we didn't do anything to fix it... except work harder at latching properly
12:48:58 EvryDayJungleBtch bueno
12:49:04 minicooper evryday :)
12:49:15 EvryDayJungleBtch bueno bueno
12:49:15 Host_Housepoet that's my other woman in real life
12:49:21 EvryDayJungleBtch im the best woman
12:49:21 Host_Housepoet all my friends are in here :)
12:49:27 Host_Housepoet haha that you are
12:49:57 EvryDayJungleBtch big ups to the breastfeeders. wooop
12:50:04 Host_Housepoet haha you're cute.
12:50:08 sugarcoated_poison_apple heehee
12:50:23 Darcy There are lots of us here today.
12:50:41 Host_Housepoet alright ladies, my dirty house is calling as well as my Fiance and homework, so I'm going to take off early
12:50:49 Host_Housepoet make sure you visit the site to sign up for the mailing list
12:50:57 Darcy Don't you people have babies to take care of.  ;)
12:51:00 andshedied you won't beleive this! BOTH girls are napping!
12:51:03 Host_Housepoet join the AZLactivist list as well, and show your support for mama's making changes!
12:51:12 minicooper thx house
12:51:23 andshedied Therefore, I gotta go be productive. Thanks for reminding us of adopt a mom, I kept forgetting to check that out!
12:51:24 EvryDayJungleBtch what kids?
12:51:27 EvryDayJungleBtch bwahahaha
12:51:27 Host_Housepoet thank you all for coming, Ariana is in charge until the end of the chat
12:51:28 Darcy Bye bye housepoet.
12:51:38 EvryDayJungleBtch bue noeleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
12:51:41 Mod_ariana With sugar_poison_apples help!!!!
12:51:42 Host_Housepoet bye darcy, gimme a call and we'll set up for Friday!
12:51:43 andshedied bye Noel!
12:51:47 Host_Housepoet OH YES
12:51:48 Darcy Will do!
12:51:51 andshedied Bye everyone! :)
12:51:54 Host_Housepoet SPA WATCH OUT FOR HER
12:52:06 sugarcoated_poison_apple oh yeah, man
12:52:08 sugarcoated_poison_apple i'm badass
12:52:15 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple you're Dangerous!!
12:52:17 Mod_ariana ;
12:52:19 Mod_ariana :)
12:52:23 Darcy So, did anyone here have jaundiced babies?
12:52:31 Mod_ariana mine had jaundice
12:52:44 EvryDayJungleBtch sugarcoated who are you?
12:52:45 Mod_ariana the LC called it lack of breastmilk jaundice""
12:52:46 sugarcoated_poison_apple my girls had it to a very slight degree, just slight yellowness
12:52:50 sugarcoated_poison_apple sugarpoisonappl
12:52:58 Mod_ariana it was because things weren't going well and he wasn't getting enough milk
12:53:04 andshedied --My daughter was yellow for TWO MONTHS. But it was never enough to alarm her ped and have her hospitalized or anything. [she did push formula though].
12:53:06 MamaKT only a little jaundice... naked sun baths every day!
12:53:06 Mod_ariana so it wasn't clearing his system out
12:53:33 Darcy Yeah - I don't think that my friend's friend has a private yard. . .
12:53:44 Darcy We did a lot of naked time in the sun when my baby was born.
12:53:46 Mod_ariana Just near a window can be fine
12:53:55 Darcy Oh- window - I didn't know that.
12:53:55 Mod_ariana Or even not naked outside time
12:53:59 andshedied Lots of nursing and sunlight should help. :)
12:54:06 Mod_ariana Lots and LOTS of nursing
12:54:13 Mod_ariana the more he nurses the faster he'll get better
12:54:16 andshedied Yea, just lay your babe in the sun spots that shine on the floor. :P
12:54:17 Mod_ariana Is the baby sleepy
12:54:28 Darcy I used sunlight help my tear heal as well, so we were quite a sight, I'm sure.  =)
12:54:37 andshedied rofl darcy!
12:54:57 Darcy No, baby is happy, alert, gaining weight - perfect sounding really.  I haven't met him because I'm sick, but the momma called me.
12:55:00 andshedied alright for realz, I need to clean. Take care everyone. Nice chat. :P
12:55:11 sugarcoated_poison_apple ha ... i'm lucky, i never tor, just stretched ... my first gave me sskid marks on the way out tho ... yow
12:55:43 Darcy I probably wouldn't have torn but I was pushing like a warrior. . .
12:55:47 sugarcoated_poison_apple please excuse my mad phat typing skillz
12:55:56 Darcy I had been told by 2 doctors that baby could be 12 pounds". . ."
12:55:59 Darcy What a load of crap. . .
12:56:00 Mod_ariana andshedied bye
12:56:01 sugarcoated_poison_apple oh man
12:56:06 Darcy but I didn't know that then.
12:56:19 Darcy So, when it came time to push, I pushed hard because I didn't want to go to the hospital.
12:56:27 MamaKT I had only skid marks, but that's because I pushed for 1 1/2 hours
12:56:28 sugarcoated_poison_apple most people i know who were told that their babies would be really big, ended up having 7-8 lb babies
12:56:40 Mod_ariana I pushed for almost 3 hours
12:56:42 Darcy I'd rather have the tear than have had to get in the car during transition.
12:56:54 MamaKT I was told mine would be small, and he was 8 1/2!!
12:56:57 Darcy Baby was only 8 lbs 12 oz.  I only pushed for about 90 minutes.
12:57:00 Mod_ariana My sister pushed for FIVE hours
12:57:03 sugarcoated_poison_apple hot damn ... i pushed maybe about 20 minutes each time ...
12:57:04 MamaKT ick!
12:57:14 Darcy 5 hours seems like a long time to be working that hard.
12:57:19 Mod_ariana