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12:00:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
OFFICIAL START OF THE
BREASTFEEDINGISNORMAL.ORG CHAT! WELCOME!
MY NAME IS NOEL AND I AM ONE OF YOUR
YOUR HOSTESSES TODAY, ARIANA IS MY RIGHT
HAND WOMA.! THIS CHAT IS TRANSCRIPTED
AND POSTED ON THE SUNDAY FOLLOWING THIS
CHAT...PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN
POSTING TO THIS CHAT. THANK YOU! :) |
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12:00:37 |
kristenandmadeleine |
Good afternoon housepoet! |
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12:00:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
Morning Ladies! |
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12:00:44 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
hi noel |
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12:00:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
good afternoon to you east coasties |
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12:00:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
SPA in the house |
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12:00:58 |
Janice |
hello all |
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12:00:59 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
please excuse typos today; nak |
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12:01:00 |
kristenandmadeleine |
hehehehe. i keep forgeting ya'll are
westcosters! |
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12:01:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
How is everyone |
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12:01:02 |
cali4niachef |
east coasties, lol |
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12:01:09 |
kristenandmadeleine |
same here apple |
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12:01:21 |
conchispa |
hi all |
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12:01:25 |
Janice |
what about the prairies? |
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12:01:28 |
kristenandmadeleine |
aww apple, mine is 14 weeks. i felt
like i just had her |
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12:01:33 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i'm exhausted and gagitated ... those
happy nurshing hormones better kick in
now, dammit |
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12:01:39 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
*agitated |
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12:01:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe you're still either west or east
coast janice! |
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12:01:53 |
Janice |
how does that work??? |
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12:02:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
you're either on our coast or you're on
the east coast ;) |
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12:02:31 |
Janice |
okay............ |
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12:02:34 |
Host_Housepoet |
alright, I hear that Ariana has some
news about a bfing clinic closing |
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12:02:38 |
kristenandmadeleine |
ladies i am lagging severely |
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12:02:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
Ariana lets hit it |
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12:02:52 |
Mod_ariana |
Janice do you actually want to take
this? |
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12:03:02 |
Janice |
Okay |
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12:03:06 |
Mod_ariana |
You're our prarie Canada queen |
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12:03:29 |
Janice |
Across Ontario Canada, there's many
bfing and maternal health clinics being
closed |
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12:03:48 |
kristenandmadeleine |
why are they closing? |
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12:03:51 |
Janice |
This includes several that Dr. jack
Newman works at |
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12:04:12 |
Janice |
It is gov't change in the way they give
budgets to hospitals |
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12:04:47 |
Janice |
When a hospital has a deficiet it will
no longer be covered by the gov't, so
they need to cut programs |
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12:05:15 |
Janice |
Accoding to Jack ,t he easiest programs
to cut are bfing & women's services |
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12:05:30 |
Janice |
over 6 have closed already |
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12:05:40 |
conchispa |
why are they the easiest? |
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12:05:43 |
Janice |
here's an article in todays nation
newspaper |
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12:05:48 |
Mod_ariana |
I always thought of the Canadian health
care system as pretty good about
breastfeeding? Is this not so? |
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12:05:57 |
Janice |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051116/BREAST16/TPNational/?query=breastfeeding |
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12:06:15 |
Janice |
Yes, our bfing rates are better than the
US. |
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12:06:20 |
mwalton |
wow, so they'd rather provide more
expensive services later when the kids
end up with allergies and assundry other
sicknesses later? |
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12:06:30 |
Janice |
These closures are specific to Ontario |
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12:06:36 |
kristenandmadeleine |
how awful. my family services place has
helpe me soo much with breastfeeing. i
would have been lost and probably
thought of supplementing had it not been
or the lactation nurses at my hospital |
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12:06:53 |
Janice |
Health care is decided provincially, not
federally |
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12:07:02 |
cali4niachef |
can you give me that link again ariana? |
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12:07:16 |
Mod_ariana |
But with changes like this Toronto BF
rates will probably drop, right? |
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12:07:18 |
Janice |
anyhow, not only to the actual moms that
would have seen Newman lose out |
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12:07:38 |
Janice |
but Newman's clinics were great teaching
facilities |
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12:07:48 |
Janice |
lots of people came to watch and learn
from him |
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12:08:11 |
Janice |
Yesterday I asked an INFACT board member
I knew |
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12:08:22 |
Janice |
if this was really as bad as it sounds |
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12:08:28 |
Janice |
she said yes |
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12:08:39 |
Janice |
there is a petition we can sign |
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12:09:02 |
Janice |
http://www.infactcanada.ca/NYGH_Breastfeeding_Clinic_Closure_Petition.htm |
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12:09:04 |
conchispa |
do we have to be canadian to sign it? |
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12:09:14 |
Janice |
and moms who haved been helped by Newman |
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12:09:32 |
Janice |
can share their stories here |
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12:09:38 |
Janice |
mailto:savetheclinic@rogers.com |
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12:09:54 |
Janice |
No you don't have to be Canadian to sign |
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12:10:02 |
Mod_ariana |
The petition has a space for what
country you're from |
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12:10:03 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
one of my daughters is half canadian |
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12:10:16 |
Janice |
I think its good to see internation
interest and support in this |
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12:10:40 |
Janice |
just as any nurse-in or whatever, we
need to shame them into this |
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12:10:55 |
conchispa |
i'm sorry, i closed the wrong windo, can
you post the link to the petition again
please? |
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12:10:58 |
Janice |
let them know the world is watching |
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12:11:08 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.infactcanada.ca/NYGH_Breastfeeding_Clinic_Closure_Petition.htm |
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12:11:16 |
conchispa |
thanks! |
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12:11:41 |
mwalton |
i always forget to enable popups before
entering the room..d'oh can you post
that link again? |
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12:11:43 |
Mod_ariana |
conchispa We're also going to write up
this info and make some noise on LJ and
the BFIN mail list |
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12:11:51 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.infactcanada.ca/NYGH_Breastfeeding_Clinic_Closure_Petition.htm |
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12:11:55 |
mwalton |
thanks sorry! |
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12:12:14 |
conchispa |
i'll take it to the BFAR.org. there are
many canadians there, actually |
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12:12:14 |
Janice |
That's about it, I have some more
background links |
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12:12:23 |
Janice |
I'll post them when I find them |
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12:12:41 |
Janice |
Oh yah, spread the word as far as
possible |
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12:12:47 |
kristenandmadeleine |
thats awful |
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12:13:24 |
Janice |
here's the background link
http://www.infactcanada.ca/Action_Alert_Oct1105_1.htm |
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12:13:41 |
Mod_ariana |
Also a good link is Dr. Jack Newman's
articles. |
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12:13:43 |
Mod_ariana |
http://www.bflrc.com/newman/articles.htm |
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12:13:47 |
Mod_ariana |
Such good info |
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12:13:50 |
kristenandmadeleine |
my friend just had her little man on the
8th and is breastfeeding. she had a
little bit of trouble at the begining
but is doing great. her lactation
services were soo helpful to her |
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12:13:56 |
conchispa |
tried to send the petition, click send
and get a front page error message"
anyone has that problem?" |
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12:14:33 |
kittn |
yup |
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12:15:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
.I found this article about cosleeping
and CIO |
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12:15:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20051115/babies_ferber_051115/20051115?hub=Health |
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12:15:51 |
Mod_ariana |
I'm getting the same error too |
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12:16:00 |
mwalton |
i got the same error |
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12:16:02 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i got the error message on the petition,
too |
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12:16:23 |
Janice |
me too, same error. I will contact the
people behind the petition |
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12:16:42 |
conchispa |
cool, keep us posted. i'll try that link
later again |
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12:16:48 |
kittn |
i never understood the whle CIO thing |
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12:16:54 |
kristenandmadeleine |
neither do i |
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12:17:10 |
kristenandmadeleine |
thank god i dont have to worry about
that, M goes to sleep and stays asleep
all night long |
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12:17:19 |
kittn |
why have children if meeting their needs
for a short period is such an issue |
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12:17:39 |
kittn |
lucky you kristen |
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12:17:51 |
ham_bone |
Hello all |
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12:17:51 |
kristenandmadeleine |
i am very lucky |
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12:17:54 |
kristenandmadeleine |
very very lucky |
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12:17:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
you are very lucky |
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12:18:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
hello ham_bone |
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12:18:03 |
kristenandmadeleine |
hey ham bone |
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12:18:05 |
mwalton |
sooo lucky |
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12:18:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
glad to see you here |
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12:18:07 |
Mod_ariana |
ham_bone Hi! |
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12:18:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
everyone agrees that you're lucky |
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12:18:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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12:18:23 |
ham_bone |
Thank you - I am happy that I finally
came over here |
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12:18:29 |
kristenandmadeleine |
yeah. i was like that as a baby too.
and so was my boyfriend. i dunno she
started at 8 weeks. |
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12:18:34 |
mwalton |
my guys is just shy of being six months
old and on a good night he's only up 4-6
times |
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12:18:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
It's a very nteresting read |
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12:18:48 |
kristenandmadeleine |
before that it was twice a night. but
she hardly sleeps during the day |
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12:19:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
you all know that we have an RSS fee |
