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12:03:47 |
Mod_ariana |
I have a question to put to you all |
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12:03:53 |
galadriel2006 |
go for it |
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12:04:02 |
Mod_ariana |
What do you tell your children when they
see formula and/or bottles? |
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12:04:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
LLLI Responds to AAP Policy Statement on
Sudden Infant Death Syndrome |
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12:04:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
Schaumburg, IL (October 2005) La Leche
League International (LLLI) is concerned
about the October 10, 2005 policy
statement on Sudden Infant Death
Syndrome (SIDS) issued by the American
Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) Task Force
on SIDS. The recommendations about
pacifiers and cosleeping in the
statement reflect a lack of basic
understanding about breastfeeding
management. |
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12:04:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
Pacifiers, which are recommended in this
policy statement, are artificial
substitutes for what the breast does
naturally. Breastfed babies often nurse
to sleep for naps and bedtime. The
recommended pacifier usage could cause a
reduction in milk supply due to reduced
stimulation of the breasts and may
affect breastfeeding duration. LLLI
recognizes that safe cosleeping
facilitates breastfeeding. One important
way cosleeping can help a mother’s milk
supply is by encouraging regular and
frequent feeding. Well-known research on
safe cosleeping practices by Dr. James
McKenna, Director of the Mother-Baby
Behavioral Sleep Laboratory at the
University of Notre Dame was disregarded
by the task force. |
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12:04:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
Also, the obvious omission of input by
the AAP’s Section on Breastfeeding may
account for the fact that breastfeeding
management issues were not taken into
consideration. Dr. Nancy Wight,
President of the Academy of
Breastfeeding Medicine, comments that
this statement “represents a truly
astounding triumph of ethnocentric
assumptions over common sense and
medical research.” Dr. Wight also
states, “There are many physician
members of the AAP who do not agree with
these recommendations.” |
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12:04:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
Although the authors do state that
breastfeeding is beneficial and should
be promoted, their recommendations about
pacifier use and cosleeping could have a
negative impact on a mother’s efforts to
breastfeed. The statement causes
confusion for parents and falls
seriously short of being a useful and
comprehensive policy. |
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12:05:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
It's a lot to read but a good read |
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12:05:58 |
galadriel2006 |
i tell him that some babies drink from
bottles, but that nursies are a baby's
favorite way to eat |
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12:06:26 |
aceboo |
hello |
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12:06:33 |
galadriel2006 |
hello! |
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12:06:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
hello aceboo |
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12:07:15 |
Mod_ariana |
galadriel2006 that makes sense |
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12:07:18 |
Autumn_Mama |
I think my DD (she's almost 4) just
thinks that the bottles have
'booby-milk' in them...we're not around
alot of ABM-feeding Mamas. |
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12:07:39 |
Mod_ariana |
I just... I don't want to put down
formula or bottles but I want them to
understand that they are inferior |
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12:07:45 |
galadriel2006 |
yeah |
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12:07:49 |
Autumn_Mama |
Yep. |
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12:07:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
well that's a good thing to learn |
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12:07:50 |
downundermum |
a few of my boys have tryed other kids
bottles and hated it |
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12:07:55 |
Autumn_Mama |
hehe |
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12:07:57 |
aceboo |
lol |
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12:08:04 |
galadriel2006 |
you don't want your kid going up to
someone saying that's gross!"" |
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12:08:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
my son picked up my friend's baby's paci
last night |
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12:08:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
he didn't like it |
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12:08:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
hahaha |
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12:08:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
I don't know about that galadriel2006 |
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12:08:19 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
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12:08:25 |
galadriel2006 |
hahaha |
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12:08:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
it IS gross |
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12:08:27 |
galadriel2006 |
you're bad |
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12:08:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe |
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12:08:35 |
Host_Housepoet |
sorry, boob nazi coming out ;) |
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12:08:41 |
aceboo |
has anyone ever felt uncomfortable
around other kids-who you know may be
ignorant to breastfeeding? |
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12:08:41 |
galadriel2006 |
don't worry about it |
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12:08:49 |
downundermum |
lol my 4yo would do that |
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12:08:55 |
galadriel2006 |
depends on the age of the kid in
question |
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12:09:08 |
galadriel2006 |
i breastfed alot around my younger
siblings last time i was up there |
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12:09:12 |
aceboo |
like hmm..4-8? |
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12:09:23 |
Mod_ariana |
If I'm nursing in front of other kids I
try to be respectful of the parents |
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12:09:25 |
galadriel2006 |
that age i would consider prime time for
normative education |
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12:09:32 |
Mod_ariana |
the kids are rarely bothered by it |
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12:09:46 |
aceboo |
maybe their parents want you to stop,
but you want to tell them that it is
what all babies shoukd drink |
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12:09:54 |
downundermum |
i have never had a child care |
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12:10:10 |
downundermum |
lots of adults make coments but not kids |
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12:10:11 |
aceboo |
if they stare :? |
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12:10:16 |
Mod_ariana |
When I was babysitting my neices my
older neice was about 8 and she liked to
sit with me while I nursed my son |
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12:10:31 |
galadriel2006 |
i just give my best look of death to
adults who have hang ups about breasts |
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12:10:43 |
Autumn_Mama |
haha |
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12:11:10 |
galadriel2006 |
my 6 year old sister wanted to know if
it hurt for the baby to eat my boob"" |
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12:11:16 |
aceboo |
lol |
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12:11:51 |
galadriel2006 |
i explained that it was mommy milk and
that it's very good for little babies to
have special milk straight from their
mommies |
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12:12:24 |
shadybrat |
hey everyone |
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12:12:31 |
aceboo |
ki |
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12:12:32 |
Mod_ariana |
shadybrat Hi! |
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12:12:34 |
Autumn_Mama |
Hi shady :) |
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12:12:37 |
shadybrat |
:-) |
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12:13:09 |
shadybrat |
how are you all doing? |
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12:13:14 |
Mod_ariana |
We're good. |
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12:13:29 |
Mod_ariana |
We're discussing NIP in front of other
children |
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12:13:33 |
shadybrat |
awesome |
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12:13:40 |
shadybrat |
ah, gotcha |
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12:13:52 |
Mod_ariana |
I think when you're in front of other
kids it's important to be very casual
about it |
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12:13:56 |
aceboo |
does anyone else here ALWAYS have other
adults explaining why they couldn't bf,
giving excuses--unasked? |
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12:13:57 |
Mod_ariana |
teach them that it's normal |
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12:13:58 |
galadriel2006 |
yeah |
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12:14:02 |
shadybrat |
it has been a loooonnng time since my
4yo NIP'd ;-) |
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12:14:04 |
galadriel2006 |
yup! |
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12:14:19 |
Mod_ariana |
shadybrat I bet! |
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12:14:27 |
Mod_ariana |
My 2 1/2 year old hasn't NIPed in a long
time |
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12:14:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
He doesn't? |
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12:14:40 |
Mod_ariana |
aceboo You know I haven't had that a lot |
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12:14:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
Aiden still wants to |
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12:14:49 |
downundermum |
my 2 1.2 NIP all the times |
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12:15:00 |
downundermum |
2 1/2 |
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12:15:17 |
Mod_ariana |
For James he gets so wrapped up in
whatever else he's doing |
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12:15:32 |
aceboo |
i was getting a makeover and she talked
the whole time about how she tried, it
hurt, baby smart regardless, blah blah,
blah |
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12:15:40 |
Mod_ariana |
though if it's something low key like if
we're just hanging out at a
friend/family's house then he will want
to nurse for his nap |
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12:15:53 |
shadybrat |
of course, we're down to one sleepy
nursing session every 7-10 days, so it
is almost hard for me to remember the
constant nursing of a couple of years
ago |
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12:16:35 |
Mod_ariana |
James has reeeeaaaalllyy slowed down on
his nursing |
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12:16:51 |
downundermum |
how old is he? |
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12:16:57 |
Mod_ariana |
he's 2 1/2 |
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12:17:09 |
Mod_ariana |
He'll usually nurse 3 times a day or so |
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12:17:27 |
aceboo |
my dd-7mo, has started waking a LOT at
night, she WAS sleeping through most of
the night |
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12:17:37 |
downundermum |
oh ok my zac 2 1/2 wants to feed every
time his siter does |
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12:17:38 |
galadriel2006 |
is it normal for a 10.5 month old to be
down to nursing between 2 and 4 times a
day? |
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12:17:58 |
downundermum |
siter=sister |
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12:18:02 |
Mod_ariana |
That seems low to me galadriel2006 but
each child is different |
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12:18:04 |
shadybrat |
how much food is he/she getting,
galadrial? |
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12:18:19 |
aceboo |
i was trying to fig that out, i thought
his babysitter was nursing, lol |
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12:18:33 |
shadybrat |
lol |
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12:18:48 |
galadriel2006 |
he is heavily into solids |
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12:18:48 |
Mod_ariana |
downundermum that makes sense if he has
the reminder when his sister nurses |
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12:19:12 |
Mod_ariana |
galadriel2006 at that age my boys were
nursing probably a dozen times a day |
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12:19:13 |
downundermum |
yes it does mod |
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12:19:14 |
shadybrat |
i would say that is a hindrance then...
i think 2-4 times a day is on the low
end, too |
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12:19:20 |
galadriel2006 |
wow |
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12:19:21 |
Mod_ariana |
but they've always been snacky nursers |
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12:19:29 |
Autumn_Mama |
Me too Ariana |
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12:19:34 |
galadriel2006 |
that's probably the difference |
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12:19:44 |
galadriel2006 |
he'll nurse for 30-45 minutes a shot |
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12:19:56 |
Mod_ariana |
each nursing session for my boys may
have only been 5 - 10 minutes |
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12:20:24 |
kristenandmadeleine |
afternoon east coast ladies, morning
west coast ladies! |
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12:20:32 |
Autumn_Mama |
Again, me too.except for when they were
newborns. |
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12:20:33 |
Mod_ariana |
kristenandmadeleine Hello! |
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12:20:39 |
shadybrat |
and i had the long sessions 8-10 times a
day.... they're all so different :-) |
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12:20:40 |
Autumn_Mama |
Good morning! |
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12:20:47 |
kristenandmadeleine |
hello ariana! how are we all today?! |
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12:21:03 |
Mod_ariana |
I think everyone is pretty well today |
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12:21:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
