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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #23
11/30
/05

22 mamas in attendance

12:03:47 Mod_ariana I have a question to put to you all
12:03:53 galadriel2006 go for it
12:04:02 Mod_ariana What do you tell your children when they see formula and/or bottles?
12:04:11 Host_Housepoet LLLI Responds to AAP Policy Statement on Sudden Infant Death Syndrome
12:04:21 Host_Housepoet Schaumburg, IL (October 2005) La Leche League International (LLLI) is concerned about the October 10, 2005 policy statement on Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) issued by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) Task Force on SIDS. The recommendations about pacifiers and cosleeping in the statement reflect a lack of basic understanding about breastfeeding management.
12:04:27 Host_Housepoet Pacifiers, which are recommended in this policy statement, are artificial substitutes for what the breast does naturally. Breastfed babies often nurse to sleep for naps and bedtime. The recommended pacifier usage could cause a reduction in milk supply due to reduced stimulation of the breasts and may affect breastfeeding duration.    LLLI recognizes that safe cosleeping facilitates breastfeeding. One important way cosleeping can help a mother’s milk supply is by encouraging regular and frequent feeding. Well-known research on safe cosleeping practices by Dr. James McKenna, Director of the Mother-Baby Behavioral Sleep Laboratory at the University of Notre Dame was disregarded by the task force.
12:04:32 Host_Housepoet Also, the obvious omission of input by the AAP’s Section on Breastfeeding may account for the fact that breastfeeding management issues were not taken into consideration. Dr. Nancy Wight, President of the Academy of Breastfeeding Medicine, comments that this statement “represents a truly astounding triumph of ethnocentric assumptions over common sense and medical research.” Dr. Wight also states, “There are many physician members of the AAP who do not agree with these recommendations.”
12:04:37 Host_Housepoet Although the authors do state that breastfeeding is beneficial and should be promoted, their recommendations about pacifier use and cosleeping could have a negative impact on a mother’s efforts to breastfeed. The statement causes confusion for parents and falls seriously short of being a useful and comprehensive policy.
12:05:53 Host_Housepoet It's a lot to read but a good read
12:05:58 galadriel2006 i tell him that some babies drink from bottles, but that nursies are a baby's favorite way to eat
12:06:26 aceboo hello
12:06:33 galadriel2006 hello!
12:06:37 Host_Housepoet hello  aceboo
12:07:15 Mod_ariana galadriel2006 that makes sense
12:07:18 Autumn_Mama I think my DD (she's almost 4) just thinks that the bottles have 'booby-milk' in them...we're not around alot of ABM-feeding Mamas.
12:07:39 Mod_ariana I just... I don't want to put down formula or bottles but I want them to understand that they are inferior
12:07:45 galadriel2006 yeah
12:07:49 Autumn_Mama Yep.
12:07:49 Host_Housepoet well that's a good thing to learn
12:07:50 downundermum a few of my boys have tryed other kids bottles and hated it
12:07:55 Autumn_Mama hehe
12:07:57 aceboo lol
12:08:04 galadriel2006 you don't want your kid going up to someone saying that's gross!""
12:08:06 Host_Housepoet my son picked up my friend's baby's paci last night
12:08:08 Host_Housepoet he didn't like it
12:08:12 Host_Housepoet hahaha
12:08:17 Host_Housepoet I don't know about that  galadriel2006
12:08:19 Host_Housepoet ;)
12:08:25 galadriel2006 hahaha
12:08:26 Host_Housepoet it IS gross
12:08:27 galadriel2006 you're bad
12:08:27 Host_Housepoet hehe
12:08:35 Host_Housepoet sorry, boob nazi coming out ;)
12:08:41 aceboo has anyone ever felt uncomfortable around other kids-who you know may be ignorant to breastfeeding?
12:08:41 galadriel2006 don't worry about it
12:08:49 downundermum lol my 4yo would do that
12:08:55 galadriel2006 depends on the age of the kid in question
12:09:08 galadriel2006 i breastfed alot around my younger siblings last time i was up there
12:09:12 aceboo like hmm..4-8?
12:09:23 Mod_ariana If I'm nursing in front of other kids I try to be respectful of the parents
12:09:25 galadriel2006 that age i would consider prime time for normative education
12:09:32 Mod_ariana the kids are rarely bothered by it
12:09:46 aceboo maybe their parents want you to stop, but you want to tell them that it is what all babies shoukd drink
12:09:54 downundermum i have never had a child care
12:10:10 downundermum lots of adults make coments but not kids
12:10:11 aceboo if they stare :?
12:10:16 Mod_ariana When I was babysitting my neices my older neice was about 8 and she liked to sit with me while I nursed my son
12:10:31 galadriel2006 i just give my best look of death to adults who have hang ups about breasts
12:10:43 Autumn_Mama haha
12:11:10 galadriel2006 my 6 year old sister wanted to know if it hurt for the baby to eat my boob""
12:11:16 aceboo lol
12:11:51 galadriel2006 i explained that it was mommy milk and that it's very good for little babies to have special milk straight from their  mommies
12:12:24 shadybrat hey everyone
12:12:31 aceboo ki
12:12:32 Mod_ariana shadybrat Hi!
12:12:34 Autumn_Mama Hi shady :)
12:12:37 shadybrat :-)
12:13:09 shadybrat how are you all doing?
12:13:14 Mod_ariana We're good.
12:13:29 Mod_ariana We're discussing NIP in front of other children
12:13:33 shadybrat awesome
12:13:40 shadybrat ah, gotcha
12:13:52 Mod_ariana I think when you're in front of other kids it's important to be very casual about it
12:13:56 aceboo does anyone else here ALWAYS  have other adults explaining why they couldn't bf, giving excuses--unasked?
12:13:57 Mod_ariana teach them that it's normal
12:13:58 galadriel2006 yeah
12:14:02 shadybrat it has been a loooonnng time since my 4yo NIP'd  ;-)
12:14:04 galadriel2006 yup!
12:14:19 Mod_ariana shadybrat I bet!
12:14:27 Mod_ariana My 2 1/2 year old hasn't NIPed in a long time
12:14:38 Host_Housepoet He doesn't?
12:14:40 Mod_ariana aceboo You know I haven't had that a lot
12:14:41 Host_Housepoet Aiden still wants to
12:14:49 downundermum my 2 1.2 NIP all the times
12:15:00 downundermum 2 1/2
12:15:17 Mod_ariana For James he gets so wrapped up in whatever else he's doing
12:15:32 aceboo i was getting a makeover and she talked the whole time about how she tried, it hurt, baby smart regardless, blah blah, blah
12:15:40 Mod_ariana though if it's something low key like if we're just hanging out at a friend/family's house then he will want to nurse for his nap
12:15:53 shadybrat of course, we're down to one sleepy nursing session every 7-10 days, so it is almost hard for me to remember the constant nursing of a couple of years ago
12:16:35 Mod_ariana James has reeeeaaaalllyy slowed down on his nursing
12:16:51 downundermum how old is he?
12:16:57 Mod_ariana he's 2 1/2
12:17:09 Mod_ariana He'll usually nurse 3 times a day or so
12:17:27 aceboo my dd-7mo, has started waking a LOT at night, she WAS sleeping through most of the night
12:17:37 downundermum oh ok my zac 2 1/2 wants to feed every time his siter does
12:17:38 galadriel2006 is it normal for a 10.5 month old to be down to nursing between 2 and 4 times a day?
12:17:58 downundermum siter=sister
12:18:02 Mod_ariana That seems low to me  galadriel2006 but each child is different
12:18:04 shadybrat how much food is he/she getting, galadrial?
12:18:19 aceboo i was trying to fig that out, i thought his babysitter was nursing, lol
12:18:33 shadybrat lol
12:18:48 galadriel2006 he is heavily into solids
12:18:48 Mod_ariana downundermum that makes sense if he has the reminder when his sister nurses
12:19:12 Mod_ariana galadriel2006 at that age my boys were nursing probably a dozen times a day
12:19:13 downundermum yes it does mod
12:19:14 shadybrat i would say that is a hindrance then... i think 2-4 times a day is on the low end, too
12:19:20 galadriel2006 wow
12:19:21 Mod_ariana but they've always been snacky nursers
12:19:29 Autumn_Mama Me too Ariana
12:19:34 galadriel2006 that's probably the difference
12:19:44 galadriel2006 he'll nurse for 30-45 minutes a shot
12:19:56 Mod_ariana each nursing session for my boys may have only been 5 - 10 minutes
12:20:24 kristenandmadeleine afternoon east coast ladies, morning west coast ladies!
12:20:32 Autumn_Mama Again, me too.except for when they were newborns.
12:20:33 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine Hello!
12:20:39 shadybrat and i had the long sessions 8-10 times a day.... they're all so different :-)
12:20:40 Autumn_Mama Good morning!
12:20:47 kristenandmadeleine hello ariana!  how are we all today?!
12:21:03 Mod_ariana I think everyone is pretty well today
12:21:11 Host_Housepoet hello  kristenandmadeleine
12:21:19 Host_Housepoet got a nice full house here
12:21:25 shadybrat hi kristenandmadeleine
12:21:29 kristenandmadeleine ooo, i have a very unhappy girl today.  what a temper!
12:22:14 kristenandmadeleine she sitting in her bouncer just kicking her legs and screaming at her toy.  she's holding her little loin, strangling it and going  eeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."
12:22:44 Autumn_Mama Lion?
12:22:47 Mod_ariana haha  I'm laughing at loin""
12:22:51 Autumn_Mama hehe
12:22:54 aceboo my dd pulls on my breast when nursing, like it needs to be far enough for her to get a good look at it , it hurts
12:23:14 Autumn_Mama Pulling with her hands or with her mouth?
12:23:29 aceboo with her hands
12:23:33 Autumn_Mama Ouch
12:23:42 Autumn_Mama DS does that sometimes
12:24:07 aceboo when i move her hands she gets upset, lol
12:24:07 galadriel2006 edmund does that too
12:24:11 Autumn_Mama But I don't have a whole lot to pull, iykwim :whistling:
12:24:17 kristenandmadeleine err lion hahah
12:24:19 galadriel2006 haha
12:24:33 Autumn_Mama My DS' thing is to play with my belly button
12:24:48 galadriel2006 speaking of loins, the fruit of my loins need to get shoes on so we can head over to my class
12:24:49 aceboo i have a LOT, lol and she kneads it like dough
12:24:55 Autumn_Mama hehehe
12:25:00 galadriel2006 talk to you all later!
12:25:03 Mod_ariana I have a mole on my side right where his hand is when he nurses and for a while he wanted to play with it
12:25:04 kristenandmadeleine madeleine like to pinch me.  and she is too young to be scolded or anything
12:25:07 Mod_ariana drove me crazy!
12:25:09 Autumn_Mama Bye bye!
12:25:11 aceboo peace galadriel
12:25:15 kristenandmadeleine bye
12:25:20 Mod_ariana bye.  I hope the abcess thing works out
12:25:39 shadybrat bye galadriel
12:25:42 galadriel2006 thanks
12:25:56 kristenandmadeleine ah ha!!  i had a sleepy kid!  i dont understand the romance in fighting sleep
12:27:02 shadybrat i've gotta run, too.  catch y'all later!  :-D
12:27:03 aceboo what are recs for iron
12:27:09 Autumn_Mama Yes, my DD has always been a sleep fighter.
12:27:14 Autumn_Mama Bye Shady!
12:27:40 Mod_ariana shadybrat bye thanks for coming
12:27:54 Autumn_Mama And my DS did the pinching thing too, ouch!
12:28:05 shadybrat you're very welcome ;-)  later all!
12:28:44 itsajenism good morning.  :)
12:28:47 Mod_ariana aceboo Here's a page with info on iron and BF.  http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/vitamins/iron.html
12:29:43 downundermum anyone else feeding more than one child?
12:30:00 Mod_ariana downundermum what are their ages
12:30:07 Mod_ariana I didn't get to tandem nurse.  :(
12:30:12 taz925 kind of, I have an older child who only nurses once a day right before bed sometimes
12:30:22 downundermum 7m and 2 1/2
12:30:22 Mod_ariana DS1 weaned during pregnancy and wasn't interested in starting back up
12:30:23 Autumn_Mama Not right now, but when my DS was younger I was nursing both of them.
12:30:28 Darcy Good mornin mamas.
12:30:36 Viola Good morning
12:30:37 Mod_ariana Darcy Welcome!!
12:30:38 Autumn_Mama Good morning Darcy :)
12:30:44 downundermum and a 5yo who does some times before bed
12:31:25 Darcy downundermum - did you think you'd nurse to 5 years, or did that just happen?
12:31:29 Mod_ariana wow, that's neat  downundermum
12:31:49 downundermum i have before so open to it
12:32:06 Mod_ariana downundermum how many children do you have?
12:32:12 downundermum 6
12:32:25 Mod_ariana that's great
12:32:29 Mod_ariana I'm the oldest of 6 kids
12:32:39 Mod_ariana I really enjoyed growing up in a large-ish family
12:32:51 Darcy I was an only and I hated not having siblings. . .
12:32:54 downundermum cool i am one of 2
12:32:56 Darcy makes me want to have 12 of em.
12:32:59 Viola It has its benefits. :)
12:33:13 Mod_ariana Darcy my dh was an only child
12:33:16 Viola large family, I mean
12:33:24 Mod_ariana he was adamant that if we had one we had to have at least one more!
12:33:36 GimmeStarbucks Does anyones babies only fall asleep when nursing? Is there ever a point where they learn to fall asleep on their own?
12:33:46 downundermum how many u all have?
12:33:47 Darcy yeah, being an only sucked for me
12:34:07 Viola My first stopped nursing to sleep around 3.5
12:34:08 Mod_ariana GimmeStarbucks my son (2 1/2) still mostly falls asleep nursing.
12:34:14 Darcy I have 1 - six months old.  I plan to have one more (maybe 2 more - who knows?).
12:34:15 downundermum at some point thet do
12:34:29 Mod_ariana My first DS though started falling asleep without nursing around 18 months
12:34:38 Viola She said there was nothing there and she couldn't get any, but she is now 6.5 and still wants me to lie with her at night
12:34:46 GimmeStarbucks Yikes...
12:34:46 Viola So that part hasn't gone away yet.
12:34:52 aceboo 3--5, 2, 7m0\
12:35:07 Mod_ariana I have two boys 5 and 2 1/2
12:35:09 Viola Well, my husband lies with her for a little while and leaves while she is still awake.
12:35:22 downundermum my 2 1/2 wont sleep without feeding
12:35:31 taz925 I have two boys 6 and 3 years old
12:35:33 GimmeStarbucks So I take it then you're still co-sleeping?
12:35:43 downundermum yes i do
12:35:56 Mod_ariana downundermum mine is the same.  He'll only fall asleep without nursing if he's in the stroller or the car or some other moving vehicle
12:36:03 Viola I cosleep with my 2 year old, but my 6 year old has had her own bed since she was 3
12:36:06 Mod_ariana Though he has fallen asleep by himself a couple times
12:36:13 kristenandmadeleine my daughter is almost 4 months and she nurses before bed.  but is stil awake, so i put her in her cot and turn the light out and close the door and she sleeps
12:36:36 aceboo she sleeps in a cot?
12:36:56 Darcy kristenandmadelein - we have almost the same arrangement, except my son sleeps on a futon matress on the floor. . .
12:37:03 GimmeStarbucks Yeah, my son can't fall asleep on his own. Sometimes if I'm holding him or in the carseat he'll sleep but usually he has to nurse to sleep.
12:37:08 Darcy it's nice because I can go in and sleep with him for a while if he needs me
12:37:08 kristenandmadeleine crib.  we call the crib a cot
12:37:37 aceboo where is everyone?
12:37:59 Darcy Ventura, California (60 miles northwest of Los Angeles)
12:38:03 Viola I'm in Nevada
12:38:10 aceboo my two oldest sleep in a tent
12:38:23 downundermum oh??
12:38:28 mwalton Utah
12:38:29 Darcy I would have loved to sleep in a tent as a kid!!
12:38:41 kristenandmadeleine tampa bay area
12:38:41 Mod_ariana Los Angeles, CA
12:38:42 kristenandmadeleine viola, where in nevada?  i grew up in henderson
12:38:43 aceboo hopefully, grandpa will get them bunk beds for holiday
12:38:52 aceboo indiana
12:39:41 Darcy i have a floppy tired baby on my lap =)
12:40:10 downundermum i have a wides awake one and its 435am
12:40:23 Mod_ariana downundermum which one is awake?
12:40:24 aceboo are you in australia>
12:40:30 downundermum yes ace
12:40:31 Viola I'm in Reno, Kristenandmadeleine
12:40:36 downundermum 7m
12:40:37 kristenandmadeleine gah, im lagging
12:41:03 Autumn_Mama My brother and his wife live in Carson City
12:41:05 Mod_ariana My boys are early risers we're usually up by 5am at the latest
12:41:11 Viola Cool! :)
12:41:19 Autumn_Mama Oh my! That's SO early!
12:41:24 kristenandmadeleine bah!!!!  i lagged like crazy
12:41:31 Autumn_Mama :(
12:41:34 downundermum i think its because i got her up when she woke so i could chat with you guys
12:42:03 downundermum i usualy just feed in bed
12:42:47 Viola I woke up around 6 this morning and couldn't go back to sleep.  That is always the way.
12:43:31 Host_Housepoet My sister is in Las Vegas
12:43:40 kristenandmadeleine hey, i got a friend who gave birh 2 weeks ago and the nurses really mucked her up with bf'ing.  they gave her niple sheilds for no reason and now baby has severe nipple confusion
12:43:44 Host_Housepoet and my good friend Bean in in Tahoe Viola
12:43:44 Mod_ariana Host_Housepoet I didn't even know you had a sister!!
12:43:49 Host_Housepoet Yep
12:43:55 Host_Housepoet I have three sisters and two brothers
12:43:55 Viola Oh cool, Housepoet!
12:44:01 Host_Housepoet all half siblings
12:44:05 Host_Housepoet my sister has a son
12:44:08 kristenandmadeleine how can she wean the nipple sheild
12:44:10 Viola Yeah, nipple shields seem to be common around here.
12:44:11 Host_Housepoet and my brother does as well
12:44:36 Darcy Host_Housepoet I had no idea you came from such a big family.
12:44:36 kristenandmadeleine she giving only bm, but using bottles  alot
12:44:49 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine ummmm
12:45:00 Darcy kristenandmadeleine it would be _really_ good for her to get off the bottle
12:45:00 Mod_ariana I'm having trouble formulating my nipple sheild advice here for some reason
12:45:13 Host_Housepoet yep
12:45:14 Mod_ariana Bottles are making it WORSE
12:45:17 Host_Housepoet well I'm my mom's only child
12:45:23 kristenandmadeleine baby is nursing alot, but she hates the sheild
12:45:24 Host_Housepoet the rest are all my dad's offspring ;)
12:45:33 Darcy kristenandmadeleine - I had a friend who had her baby in May and they scared her into supplementing for a couple of days. . .
12:45:40 kristenandmadeleine yea, i told her that.  but she has no support out there
12:45:49 Darcy after that she only gave baby breastmilk, but from a bottle. . .
12:45:49 Host_Housepoet they tried to scare me into it as well
12:45:51 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine is she on LJ or does she read email a lot
12:45:58 Host_Housepoet I wish I had known better when Aiden was first born
12:46:03 kristenandmadeleine i told her to join us
12:46:03 Mod_ariana We could get her an adopt a mom mentor
12:46:09 Host_Housepoet that we could
12:46:10 Darcy and by 10 weeks she was done breastfeeding. . .
12:46:12 Mod_ariana she doesn't even need to join LJ
12:46:17 kristenandmadeleine im helping her out as much as i can
12:46:17 Mod_ariana it could all just be over email
12:46:21 Darcy Have you recommended a nursing honeymoon to her?
12:46:26 kristenandmadeleine she is
12:46:36 Mod_ariana We have a few adopt a mom mentors who have gotten past nipple sheilds
12:46:41 kristenandmadeleine baby is pigging doen every 1.5-2 hours
12:47:00 Darcy That is great.  Tell her that there is hope and that her baby can do this and she can do it.
12:47:02 kristenandmadeleine he is on the breast alot, but with that damn sheild
12:47:13 downundermum whats a nurseing honeymoon?
12:47:15 Mod_ariana She needs to be as relaxed as she can be.
12:47:25 Darcy If she has time for the nursing honeymoon then maybe she should get rid of the shield.
12:47:25 kristenandmadeleine and in the middle of the night it frustrates her
12:47:30 Mod_ariana If she's real anxious about getting him off the sheild he'll sense that
12:47:51 Viola I had a friend who used a shield, and she just kept trying until one day her daughter nursed without it.  I hear similar stories
12:47:57 Darcy downundermum a nursing honeymoon is when you ditch all of your commitments other than baby for 24-72 hours or more. . .
12:47:59 Mod_ariana The advice is always try to nurse without the sheild.  If it doesn't work that's fine then just use it
12:48:03 Viola and I can never really find a specific suggestion there, you know?
12:48:08 Darcy and just spend that tim in bed nursing - skin to skin with baby. . .
12:48:19 Mod_ariana Then about 5 - 10 minutes in when baby is nursing well with the sheild try to slip it away and re-latch quickly
12:48:46 Mod_ariana and if it doesn't work then that's fine, just bring the sheild back.
12:48:48 kristenandmadeleine downunder= its just getting in bed topless with babe anddoing nothing but nursing
12:48:54 aceboo i' have to go, dd is off to school
12:49:06 Mod_ariana Keep trying that and one of the times it's likely to work.
12:49:17 aceboo thanks ladies :bf  :D
12:49:18 downundermum sound slike my life sometimes
12:49:19 kristenandmadeleine dammit, ariana i got kicked and missed that
12:49:34 Mod_ariana Also babies tend to be more willing to take a bare breast when they are just about asleep or when they just wake up or when they are in a bath with mommy.
12:49:41 kristenandmadeleine i said to do her bare breast when he is sleepy
12:49:43 Darcy downundermum - I'm sure it does with 3 nursing babies!
12:50:03 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine let me email this to you
12:50:57 Viola My niece had a baby last December and was doing OK until her baby got severe jaundice and the nurses and doctor told her she had to use formula for awhile.
12:51:30 Viola She never really went back to breastfeeding after that.  Now she is having another baby on December 8th, and I have no clue if she is even going to try this time.
12:51:47 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine are you on LJ?
12:52:07 kristenandmadeleine yea, im on the breastfeeding community  Jellho
12:52:23 Mod_ariana oh ok
12:52:31 Darcy Oh - hi Jellho.
12:52:35 kristenandmadeleine my friend is doing great though.  not giving up
12:52:45 kristenandmadeleine but just frustrated.  im trying to get her involved in LLL
12:52:50 Darcy It's confusing when people use different names different places.  I'm psyko_kitty on LJ.
12:52:53 kristenandmadeleine hey Darcy
12:52:59 kristenandmadeleine ahhh!
12:53:13 kristenandmadeleine I know.  I should log in next time with jellho
12:53:26 Darcy I'm thinking of changing my journal name.
12:53:38 Darcy I chose the name long ago when I was TTC and needed to keep it anonymous.
12:53:42 Mod_ariana You know what I'm going to do  kristenandmadeleine I'm going to create a post in breastfeeding about nipple sheilds and put the info I have and then ask for more advice
12:53:55 kristenandmadeleine great!
12:54:02 kristenandmadeleine Then can we put it in the memories?
12:54:04 Darcy Mod_ariana that's a good idea.  We should have that info in the memories.
12:54:07 Mod_ariana YES
12:54:12 kristenandmadeleine great!
12:54:17 Host_Housepoet great idea
12:54:22 Mod_ariana And it can help not only your friend but anyone else who sees it
12:54:27 kristenandmadeleine I need to go to the LLL meeting here.  Kelly from kellymom is our leader
12:54:32 Mod_ariana I'm starting to lag here too
12:54:50 Autumn_Mama How cool
12:55:09 Autumn_Mama (the LLL thing, not the lag :P)
12:55:09 Darcy We have a really active LLL chapter here.
12:55:11 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine ohhhh, she's like a celebrity!
12:55:17 kristenandmadeleine But it's hard for us to get down there.  Its about 20 minutes from my house
12:55:22 Darcy A boobie celebrity. . .
12:55:24 kristenandmadeleine and im a stay at home mum with only one car
12:55:33 kristenandmadeleine i know!  When I talked with our other leader I told her.
12:55:37 Mod_ariana kristenandmadeleine I'm in the same boat with the one car family
12:56:00 kristenandmadeleine And I used to get soo afraid driving with baby bymyself that i didnt want to try it.  but im better now
12:56:17 Darcy I hate driving when my son is upset.
12:58:05 Host_Housepoet I need to run ladies.
12:58:12 kristenandmadeleine ye houspoet
12:58:18 Host_Housepoet Ariana and I have to leave
12:58:25 Host_Housepoet but feel free to stay
12:58:26 kristenandmadeleine yeah, i gota crap case of anxiety after having the baby
12:58:43 Host_Housepoet HAVE A GREAT DAY EVERYONE
12:58:49 Host_Housepoet WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!

 

 

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