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Breastfeeding Is Normal presents: A Breastfeeding Advocacy Chat #24
12/7
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11 mamas in attendance

11:53:58 Mod_ariana Hello!
11:54:11 downundermum hi
11:54:21 Mod_ariana How are you doing today?
11:54:32 downundermum good u?
11:54:47 Mod_ariana Ummm, I had some coffee this morning so I'm kinda hyper
11:55:05 downundermum oh ok
11:56:17 downundermum how old r your  kids?
11:56:27 Mod_ariana 5 years and 2 1/2
11:56:31 TurboClaudia hi, mamas!
11:56:33 downundermum hi
11:56:39 Mod_ariana Hi  TurboClaudia
11:56:46 TurboClaudia hi downundermum abd ariana!
11:57:15 Mod_ariana How old are both of your children?
11:58:03 downundermum mine r 10 8 8 5 2 and 7m
11:58:12 Mod_ariana twins?
11:58:15 downundermum yes
11:58:31 Mod_ariana so you have a 5 and 2 year old just like me but you also have 4 others!!
11:58:36 TurboClaudia mine is 1.5 years
11:58:45 downundermum yes lol
11:59:17 Mod_ariana I think I remember you talking about your kids last time because I remember saying that I come from a family of 6 kids
11:59:45 Mod_ariana TurboClaudia is your baby" still nursing?"
11:59:54 downundermum thats right
12:00:04 TurboClaudia yes, but only once a day or maybe even once every other day
12:00:16 TurboClaudia i'm feeling bittersweet about it...
12:00:18 Mod_ariana My son is really slowing down on nursing too.
12:00:25 Mod_ariana I totally understand the bittersweet of it!
12:00:34 Mod_ariana My son is nursing once or twice a day
12:00:55 downundermum oh i sort of wish my 2yo would slow down
12:00:55 Mod_ariana I think it'll take a good while to fully wean but I know it's coming
12:01:00 TurboClaudia the other night i lifted up my shirt to nurse before bed and he took a few sips, like 20 seconds, and came off and said bye bye and waved
12:01:14 TurboClaudia and then i offered him the other side and he just waved and said bye bye again
12:01:28 Mod_ariana Hi threalocelot!
12:01:35 Mod_ariana TurboClaudia isn't that hard
12:01:58 Mod_ariana My older son self weaned between 2 1/2 and 3 and I was sad-ish
12:02:07 Mod_ariana but I was pregnant so I knew I'd be nursing another one soon
12:02:21 Mod_ariana this time when James is done nursing I'm done nursing so that's going to be really hard for me
12:02:42 TurboClaudia yeah, again the bittersweet of it.  he's communicating a lot now and letting his wants and needs known.
12:03:38 downundermum its a challenge have a 2 1/2 still attached
12:03:38 sugarcoated_poison_apple i actually remembered that the chat was today ...
12:03:58 Mod_ariana downundermum I can see where it'd be a challenge with a 7 month old too
12:04:10 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple Woooooo  Hooooooo
12:04:17 sugarcoated_poison_apple heehee
12:04:23 sugarcoated_poison_apple yeah, i made it
12:04:32 sugarcoated_poison_apple had to tear myself away from my obsessive knitting
12:04:43 downundermum hi
12:04:48 sugarcoated_poison_apple hallo ^_^
12:05:55 Mod_ariana Ok ladies -- talk amongst yourselves for a few minutes I have some diaper duty.  I'll be right back.
12:06:39 sugarcoated_poison_apple not too many of us yet ... how is everyone today?
12:07:14 downundermum sugarcoated_poison_apple how old r yuour kids?
12:07:20 downundermum good
12:07:20 downundermum u
12:07:37 sugarcoated_poison_apple one is 3 years, the other is 9 1/2 months
12:07:52 sugarcoated_poison_apple i'm doing ok ... tired, but that's the norm. *lol*
12:08:41 downundermum lol
12:09:06 sugarcoated_poison_apple it's my own fault, really; i stay up too late and of course i never get to sleep in
12:09:37 downundermum yes i am the same but i do get woken alot
12:09:47 TurboClaudia what parts of the world/ country is everyone in?  i'm in oregon, northwest usa
12:09:56 sugarcoated_poison_apple i'm in central new york
12:09:57 Mod_ariana I'm back
12:10:03 Mod_ariana I'm in Los Angeles, CA
12:10:32 downundermum sydney australia
12:11:02 Mod_ariana well I was guessing australia.  ;)
12:11:18 Mod_ariana Darcy!  :D
12:11:22 Darcy Good morning!
12:11:32 sugarcoated_poison_apple i nurse amorette (my baby) to sleep and put her down in her crib, and stay up a while longer ... when she wakes up in the night i go get her and bring her to bed with us for the rest of the night. sometimes she won't sleep in the crib, tho ...
12:12:00 Mod_ariana That's what I used to do with my first
12:12:02 sugarcoated_poison_apple ... those nights she usually wakes me every couple of hours to switch breasts and won't let me get any solid sleep, so i'm like a walking zombie the next day
12:12:23 Darcy sugarcoated_poison_apple we're dealing with that, too.
12:12:24 downundermum i can relate  sugarcoated_poison_apple
12:12:24 sugarcoated_poison_apple hi darcy
12:12:26 Darcy Hi!
12:12:27 Mod_ariana Now a days I finally got with it and go to sleep when my kiddos do
12:12:43 Darcy Baby really wants someone with him, but if it's me he's gotta be hooked up the whole night.
12:12:52 Darcy It's really hard on my back.
12:13:03 Darcy The other night my husband slept with the baby and I slept like a baby!
12:13:26 sugarcoated_poison_apple i was really stupid when angie was a baby ... i would nurse her before bed, but sometimes i would put her down and she'd wake up, and i let her cry herself back to sleep
12:13:30 TurboClaudia i'm sort of distracted here, mamas... my littly guy is learning how to feed himself with a spoon and i have half an eye on the screen and half an eye on him and his oatmeal... :D
12:13:48 downundermum lol
12:14:01 sugarcoated_poison_apple looking back i feel really shitty about it, but i was 20 and i didn't know better because i hadn't really learned as much as i have now
12:14:22 sugarcoated_poison_apple aww, that sounds so cute, claudia
12:14:34 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple I think it's so hard for moms
12:14:39 Darcy You can't do anything about it except take it as motivation to continue to get more educated.
12:14:40 TurboClaudia he's very persistent with that spoon
12:14:46 Mod_ariana The info on natural, instinctual parenting is really kind of hard to come by
12:15:24 downundermum it sure is for ages i was just thinking i was a freak
12:16:14 sugarcoated_poison_apple i really couldn't so-sleep with her then because her father and i were living with my parents, and all we had was a twin bed. i tried having her co-sleep once when i was dead tired, and she rolled off the bed (onto blankets) and he almost took my head off
12:16:44 TurboClaudia our son's latest thing is after our nighttime routine (get into pjs, brush teeth and hair, read books, nurse, lie down in bed together if he's not already asleep) is that he will start to sing and use us as a climbing toy.
12:16:51 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple my boys fell off the bed several times
12:17:16 TurboClaudia but if we leave him alone for a few minutes and he cries a bit and then we go back into the room and offer a drink of water and then lay down, most of the time he will lay down immediately and go right to sleep.
12:17:43 sugarcoated_poison_apple amorette fell off our bed once (steve and i have a queen size) and then i put up a bed rail ... and then she rolled up next to it and got stuck between the rail and the bed, so we have pillows up against it now, but it works really well
12:18:18 Darcy sugarcoated_poison_apple what size bed do you have?  How old is Amorette?
12:18:29 Mod_ariana Our bed isn't too high off the ground and we have carpet so I stopped worrying about it after a while.  ;-)
12:18:36 TurboClaudia we have these two giant pillows on either side of the bed and although he can crawl over them when he;s awake, he doesn't roll over them during the night
12:18:37 Mod_ariana Once William rolled right off the bed and kept sleeping
12:18:59 Darcy Mod_ariana that is hilarious.  Good sleeper (at least once he's asleep)!
12:19:00 sugarcoated_poison_apple claudia - that's really sweet, i put my 3-year-old to bed a lot like that but i kind of miss nursing her at bedtime. she self-weaned at 18 months because my milk crapped out on me
12:19:35 Mod_ariana Darcy I was *terrified* and couldn't get back to sleep for a while but he was happy as a clam sleeping on the floor
12:19:39 sugarcoated_poison_apple darcy - my boyfriend and i have a queen size bed, perfect for the 3 of us. ^_^ amorette is 9 1/2 months old now.
12:19:56 Darcy We have a queen and can't get cosleeping to work,
12:20:15 Darcy but I think we're going to need to do something because we agree that baby isn't ready to sleep on his own. . .
12:20:30 Darcy so if we want to sleep together, we're gonna need a bigger bed and a better plan
12:20:32 Mod_ariana We have a twin bed pushed up next to our queen
12:20:46 Darcy We're thinking about getting ourselves a king size bed for Christmas
12:20:58 Mod_ariana It's not a good idea if you have an infant who could get caught between the two, but for older toddlers it's great I think.
12:21:11 downundermum i have a king but its still full
12:21:16 Darcy Yeah - I think Joseph is too young for that.
12:21:22 sugarcoated_poison_apple we manage ok ... it helps that steve is skinny as a rail. *lol*
12:21:24 Darcy downundermum - how many in the family bed?
12:21:44 downundermum 3+ kids
12:21:54 Mod_ariana I bet it varies from night to night
12:22:02 TurboClaudia how about just a twin on the floor next to your queen?
12:22:05 Darcy That's a cozy bed!!!
12:22:16 Darcy There's not enough room in our bedroom for the queen and a twin.
12:22:21 Darcy Our room is kind of small.
12:22:24 TurboClaudia or does babe need to be snuggled to stay asleep?  he might surprise you, though...
12:22:39 Darcy There is room for a king, though - as long as we don't have any other furniture.
12:22:50 downundermum i have 2 that snuggle
12:23:00 Darcy He seems to want to be able to touch us when he stirs.
12:23:11 Darcy He was in a cosleeper for the first 6 months, but
12:23:16 TurboClaudia how old is he darcy>
12:23:32 Darcy being that close to the boobie made him want to nurse constantly, so he ended up in the bed more often than not
12:23:48 Mod_ariana Darcy my kids were like that.  Not only did they like to touch us, but they had to be able to touh BOTH of us, mommy & daddy
12:23:53 Darcy He just turned 6 months last week and we've been working on some kind of transition to make things work better for all of us
12:24:13 Darcy He seems ok with just one of us.  I'm thinking of putting him between daddy and a rail or the wall.
12:24:20 sugarcoated_poison_apple amorette likes to cuddle my boob ... even after she stops nursing and pops off in her sleep, she keeps her arm flung up over me and snugs up close
12:24:45 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple that's so sweet
12:24:54 Mod_ariana My hubby LOVES co-sleeping
12:24:54 TurboClaudia brb... gotta wash the oatmeal hands and face...
12:25:00 Darcy sugarcoated_poison_apple that is so sweet.  I love that.  We nap like that, but it really hurts my back to lie that still.
12:25:05 Mod_ariana especially if he's been working a lot
12:25:30 Darcy cosleeping is nice for daddies who are away a lot
12:25:42 Darcy I think that's why Matt (dad) is warming up to it so much.
12:26:19 Mod_ariana It's a real bonding for daddy and baby
12:26:51 Mod_ariana Just last night James (2 1/2 year old) and Tony (daddy) were snuggled up together, I wished I had the camera handy it was so heartwarming
12:26:55 sugarcoated_poison_apple i didnt know how steve would be about co-sleeping but he's awesome
12:27:37 sugarcoated_poison_apple amorette was a big surprise and we absolutely weren't ready for a kid, so we hadn't ever discussed anything
12:27:40 downundermum Mod_ariana how often is james feeding?
12:27:43 Darcy gotta go change a diaper
12:27:58 Mod_ariana downundermum James has been nursing one or two times a day.
12:28:15 Mod_ariana Sometimes only at bedtime
12:28:24 Mod_ariana and he's been falling asleep for naps without nursing
12:28:39 Mod_ariana I'm actually getting a little choked up typing about it
12:28:39 TurboClaudia back
12:28:51 downundermum oh almost a big boy
12:28:57 sugarcoated_poison_apple i love it in the morning when she wakes up and sits up and looks over at him, she gets the biggest smile when she sees her daddy. sometimes she rolls towards him to snuggle almost like she's trying to nurse
12:29:23 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple ohhhhh, so sweet.  Those are the moments when you just feel so so lucky to have the family you do
12:29:38 sugarcoated_poison_apple yeah, it's great
12:30:13 sugarcoated_poison_apple he's really impressed me as a father. he'll even do diapers without me having to beg
12:30:39 sugarcoated_poison_apple speaking of which, it's my turn for diaper duty ... back in a minute
12:30:40 Mod_ariana that's wonderful
12:31:08 TurboClaudia what are you all doing for the holidays?  we are going across the country to visit both families and i'm concerned about bill's family saying something abuot our son still nursing, even though it's just once a day...
12:31:55 downundermum how old is he again?
12:32:13 TurboClaudia 18 months tomorrow
12:32:27 Mod_ariana Oh, James just fell and hit his head so now he's nursing.  :)
12:32:28 TurboClaudia they;re just very different people
12:32:35 TurboClaudia bill's dad is a surgeon
12:32:50 downundermum my family hate me feeding too
12:32:52 Mod_ariana TurboClaudia I thin if you are sure of yourself then it should go fine
12:33:03 TurboClaudia and they live in the suburbs of philly and fit in there and we live in oregon and fit in here
12:33:04 Mod_ariana It's when you show some sign of indecision that they jump in
12:33:48 Mod_ariana I know some of my family disagrees with my extended nursing but they're afraid to say it to my face
12:33:50 TurboClaudia maybe i'm just imagining that i will be affected by it...
12:33:58 Mod_ariana they say it behind my back.  ;)
12:34:16 downundermum mine say it to my face
12:34:34 TurboClaudia ooh... not cool, either way.
12:34:48 Mod_ariana One thing I have in my corner is that there are other crunchy" people in my family"
12:35:03 Mod_ariana my mom nursed all us kids at least *some* (me for 2 months was the shortest)
12:35:30 Mod_ariana My mom home birthed 3 of her 6 kids and my sis nursed until 2 years old (but then pushed her daughter to wean)
12:36:01 downundermum i had 3 of mine at home too
12:36:13 Mod_ariana downundermum do you think you'll have more?
12:36:21 downundermum not sure
12:36:21 Host_Housepoet hello everyone!
12:36:27 Mod_ariana Lookie who
12:36:28 TurboClaudia hi housepoet
12:36:30 Host_Housepoet sorry I'm not here today, I just wanted to pop over and say hello
12:36:33 Host_Housepoet I have finals
12:36:33 Mod_ariana Look who is here!
12:36:35 Mod_ariana Hi
12:36:40 Host_Housepoet I'm stressed beyond life right now
12:36:51 Host_Housepoet hi A
12:36:56 Host_Housepoet HI  TurboClaudia
12:36:57 downundermum i sort of want a break
12:37:04 downundermum hi Host_Housepoet
12:37:13 Host_Housepoet hi  downundermum
12:37:21 Mod_ariana Host_Housepoet focus on those finals -- kick some butt
12:37:26 Host_Housepoet alright, ladies, now that I've said hi, i'm going back to the grindstone
12:37:31 Host_Housepoet Im trying I'm trying
12:37:33 Mod_ariana :D
12:37:36 TurboClaudia i think we need a clean diaper over here now! brb
12:37:40 Host_Housepoet I'll post up my power point presentation later on LJ
12:37:42 Host_Housepoet so you can see it
12:37:45 Host_Housepoet see you all later!
12:37:51 Mod_ariana bye
12:37:57 Darcy Good luck with finals, Noel!!!!
12:38:50 Darcy Hi, Cindy.
12:41:49 downundermum sorry back...diaper duty
12:42:02 Mod_ariana James stepped on a lego a day or two ago and has a small boo boo on the bottom of his foot
12:42:16 Mod_ariana he wants me to kiss it 200 times while he nurses
12:42:22 Mod_ariana so I'm nak with his foot in my face
12:42:32 downundermum lol
12:43:03 Darcy Mod_ariana that is a funny funny picture
12:43:20 Darcy I can't believe you can type!
12:43:40 Mod_ariana I know, not to mention that he's about 30 pounds!
12:43:47 downundermum i somehow manage to nak with 2 of them
12:43:57 sugarcoated_poison_apple took me long enough, but i'm back
12:44:06 Mod_ariana But I have a ton of practice with nursing and internet-ing
12:44:08 sugarcoated_poison_apple i made angie some lunch after the diaper change
12:44:17 Mod_ariana I've been doing it for almost 6 years
12:44:36 Mod_ariana I don't know why I can't get used to the time difference
12:44:40 sugarcoated_poison_apple what did i miss?
12:44:49 Mod_ariana I still haven't cleared breakfast dishes away and you're serving lunch
12:45:01 sugarcoated_poison_apple it's 12:42 here
12:45:06 Mod_ariana You missed Noel, she dropped by to say hi
12:45:23 downundermum Mod_ariana our boys r the smal size
12:45:33 Mod_ariana You have big kiddos too?
12:45:34 sugarcoated_poison_apple *lol* angie cleared her own dishes from breakfast...
12:45:40 downundermum yes
12:45:46 sugarcoated_poison_apple aww, i missed noel. no fair. *pout*
12:45:56 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple wow, William is 5 and he needs direction on clearing dishes
12:46:18 Mod_ariana downundermum do you get tired of people *telling you* that your kids are big?
12:46:23 sugarcoated_poison_apple she had oatmeal and a cup of juice, so she just takes her cup and bowl and deposits them into the sink
12:46:42 downundermum Mod_ariana oh yes and that he should not be bf
12:46:53 cali4niachef i was just typing all kinds of stuff and i realized somehow i ended up in another chat room
12:47:03 Darcy Welcome back, Cindy!
12:47:12 Mod_ariana cali4niachef welcome
12:47:49 cali4niachef silly me
12:48:05 DoulaMommy ah ha! I found everyone
12:48:12 downundermum DoulaMommy hi
12:48:16 cali4niachef anyway i was saying last week everytime i tried to nurse Reed he would fuss and cry, even when i attempted to put him into position
12:48:19 Mod_ariana DoulaMommy Hey!
12:48:21 Darcy Hello!  yes - you found us.
12:48:26 cali4niachef i thought at first it was something i ate
12:48:32 Darcy cali4niachef what was it?
12:48:43 cali4niachef then i figured he was teething because  he has been chewing on his hands like crazy
12:48:50 cali4niachef his gums are taught
12:48:50 DoulaMommy aw
12:48:53 Mod_ariana ohhh, that makes sense
12:49:05 cali4niachef he is nursing more but still fusses occasionally
12:49:08 sugarcoated_poison_apple poor kid
12:49:10 cali4niachef i know
12:49:21 Mod_ariana poor baby
12:49:43 Darcy Have you tried the typical helpers?  frozen washcloth, frozen teething ring, etc.
12:50:03 cali4niachef since he doesn't nurse more than a total of 5-10 min i have been trying to feed him more to make sure he is getting enough and so my supply doesn't go down
12:50:04 Darcy Mine loves the washcloth - easier than the teething ring for him.
12:50:20 cali4niachef sometimes he refuses then i will try again 20min later or so
12:50:20 Mod_ariana cali4niachef have you tried the hyland's teething tablets?
12:50:24 cali4niachef i got them
12:50:32 Darcy If you have a pump you can pump for a couple of minutes after each feeding to keep your nipples stimulated.
12:50:42 cali4niachef i've tried the wash cloth and teething ring he doesn't like t hem
12:50:49 Darcy That's too bad.
12:50:52 cali4niachef i keep trying the teething ring he isn't interested
12:50:59 cali4niachef i'll try the wash cloth again
12:51:02 Darcy How old is he again?
12:51:07 cali4niachef 12.5wks
12:51:20 Mod_ariana one of my sons like the wash cloth, but NOT frozen
12:51:26 Darcy Yeah - mine was teething at that age (but I didn't know it yet) and he really didn't get the teething ring.
12:51:27 Mod_ariana he didn't seem to want cold
12:51:46 cali4niachef i've tried it frozen, wet, cold and wrapped around my finger....so far its a no go
12:51:51 DoulaMommy try a frozen washcloth that was soaked in your milk?
12:51:52 sugarcoated_poison_apple amorette didn't like anything cold in her mouth when she started teething ... she was about 2 1/2 months old. i got the hyland's teething tablets on recommendation from the ladies in the breastfeeding community and they were a godsend
12:52:03 Darcy DoulaMommy that is brilliant
12:52:06 cali4niachef i like the teething tablets
12:52:13 DoulaMommy ty )"
12:52:15 DoulaMommy :)
12:52:16 cali4niachef in my milk? i certainly will
12:52:37 cali4niachef good idea
12:52:46 DoulaMommy I have milk cubes for teething/solids already in the freezer waiting
12:52:47 Mod_ariana DoulaMommy I hope you dont' mind, I'm going to write that down to advise people on!
12:52:51 sugarcoated_poison_apple i'd snaek the tablets into her mouth when she wasn't paying attention, have her suck on my finger to dissolve them, and cram my boob in her mouth so she'd swallow.
12:52:54 DoulaMommy no prob!
12:53:07 DoulaMommy it JUST popped into my head lol
12:53:14 cali4niachef i do a similar thing with the tablets sugar
12:53:30 cali4niachef i put them in his mouth and rub them on his gums
12:53:37 cali4niachef then try to nurse him afterwards
12:54:33 DoulaMommy new unbleached washclothes absorbe moe
12:54:46 cali4niachef i use his lil baby wash clothes
12:54:57 DoulaMommy <--- trying to get dd to sleep
12:55:48 downundermum what is sleep?
12:56:26 sugarcoated_poison_apple downundermum that's a fantastic question
12:56:32 DoulaMommy lol
12:56:36 sugarcoated_poison_apple heehee
12:56:49 DoulaMommy something my 12 wk old does only on my!
12:57:01 DoulaMommy chest
12:57:19 Mod_ariana DoulaMommy both my boys went through a phase like that
12:57:22 sugarcoated_poison_apple amorette is over here trying to grab things off my desk
12:57:35 downundermum last few night i have had a kid trying to feed all night
12:57:42 cali4niachef goodness i am glad my ds will take naps in his crib and bassinet
12:57:48 sugarcoated_poison_apple she's into the pulling up on furniture to a standing position and getting into everything possible stage
12:57:52 cali4niachef he easily sleeps off of me
12:58:18 DoulaMommy dd did that last night too, poor thing has a boo-boo
12:58:40 DoulaMommy feeding all night that is
12:58:42 sugarcoated_poison_apple ack
12:58:52 Mod_ariana sugarcoated_poison_apple what age is it exactly that they grow out of that stage?  my 2 1/2 year old is still in that stage!
12:58:57 cali4niachef reed wants to be held a lot because he is teething, he needs a lot of soothing. i assume this is normal
12:58:57 DoulaMommy lol
12:59:09 Mod_ariana cali4niachef totally!
12:59:13 sugarcoated_poison_apple she's just started, tho ... so it's a whole new world of wonder and magic for her. *lol*
12:59:30 DoulaMommy yep normal
12:59:40 cali4niachef he is most happy when i amholding him and he is chewing on his hand
12:59:54 DoulaMommy my 4 yo STILL grabs at everything
13:00:02 cali4niachef great news!
13:00:19 carley hello! this is my first time here...
13:00:26 sugarcoated_poison_apple hi carley
13:00:28 DoulaMommy cali, at least he'll chew on his hand..dd will only suck my thumb!!!!!
13:00:33 downundermum hi  carley
13:00:34 carley i'm a breastfeeding mama w/a 4mos old
13:00:34 DoulaMommy hi carley
13:00:36 Mod_ariana carley Hello and Welcome!
13:00:49 cali4niachef i forgot to mention that a LC wants me to appy for a job at a hospital as a peer breastfeeding support person for women who are on WIC and Medicaid. i would actually make rounds and encourage women to BF! HOW AWESOME IS THAT!!?!
13:00:59 DoulaMommy oh ya, its my 1st time in this room too lol
13:01:00 sugarcoated_poison_apple that's awesome
13:01:01 Mod_ariana Technically the chat is over now but I think we'll be here for a bit more.
13:01:06 crystalpea2005 hey mamas
13:01:07 cali4niachef offer the support and advice
13:01:10 DoulaMommy sweet cali!!!!!!!!!!
13:01:16 Mod_ariana crystalpea2005 WELCOME!
13:01:21 cali4niachef it's paid too! i would do it for free.
13:01:22 Darcy I gotta go get ready for a trip.  Cindy - that's awesome.  Carley - look forward to talking with you next week!
13:01:23 cali4niachef i hope i get it
13:01:24 Darcy Byte!!!
13:01:36 cali4niachef bye darcy
13:01:38 DoulaMommy hi crystal
13:01:40 cali4niachef enjoy your trip
13:01:40 sugarcoated_poison_apple bye darcy
13:01:42 DoulaMommy bye darcy
13:01:51 carley comments on cosleeping and breastfeeding or is it too late for comments?
13:01:52 Mod_ariana cali4niachef that's WONDERFUL
13:01:57 cali4niachef i am super excited!
13:02:11 Mod_ariana I wanted to try something like that but they wouldn't allow me because I wasn't on WIC
13:02:21 cali4niachef its about 15hrs a week and the hrs are flexible so my dh can watch the baby
13:02:41 downundermum sounds great  cali4niachef
13:02:42 crystalpea2005 i have a 14 month old that i nurse
13:02:49 DoulaMommy the advice I git while on WIC was toput ds on a schedual b/c he wasnt nursing enough.....
13:02:50 sugarcoated_poison_apple carley it's never too late for comments ^_^
13:02:52 Mod_ariana cali4niachef will they give you training?
13:03:05 crystalpea2005 we actually get wic its helps alot
13:03:11 cali4niachef yes a 2 day training course to let me know what info i can and cannot give
13:03:23 cali4niachef and if the person needs more help to refer to them to a LC
13:03:40 cali4niachef they will give me a book with info and stuff
13:03:46 carley my doc thinks she should sleep through the night now b/c she's at 18#?
13:03:47 DoulaMommy thats great Crystal! I wish they had been more suportice od me!
13:04:02 cali4niachef i assume it will be the same info as my Womanly Art and Nursing Mother's Companion
13:04:05 DoulaMommy carley, how old?
13:04:27 carley 4mos.  by the way i LOVED womanly art of breastfeeding!
13:04:28 downundermum carley my 2 1/2 does not sleep through yet......................
13:04:45 carley i thought about letting her 'cry it out'
13:04:45 DoulaMommy 4 months! sleeping through the night...hahahahaha
13:04:57 DoulaMommy not laughng @ you, but the doc
13:05:19 carley we tried crying it out" for about 10 seconds and it just didn't feel right"
13:05:23 sugarcoated_poison_apple a baby's weight doesn't have anything to do with whether they'll sleep through the night ... hell, i weigh a lot more than that and i still wake up at night
13:05:33 downundermum lol
13:05:45 carley i didn't think so.....
13:05:54 Mod_ariana Both my boys started sleeping through right about 2 years old.  They were well well over 18 pounds at that point!
13:07:03 carley my other kids started sleeping through the night at about 9mos, but that was 10 years ago!
13:07:04 sugarcoated_poison_apple i let my first cry it out because i didn't know better, and it tore me up inside. my 9 1/2 month old gets brought to bed with us, and we just co-sleep ... it makes things a lot easier. sometimes i'll take her back to her crib after she falls back asleep
13:07:31 carley do you still bf?
13:07:43 crystalpea2005 i do the same
13:07:49 downundermum carley how old r your others?
13:07:55 crystalpea2005 its just easier
13:08:19 carley 9 and 10! both boys and they still get sleeping bags and camp out in my room on the floor!
13:08:29 sugarcoated_poison_apple yeah ... *lol* i don't wean my babies, they wean themselves. the first is weaned, but the little one is a boob addict
13:08:30 DoulaMommy ugh...sorry, I hit backspace
13:08:51 DoulaMommy somehow closed my browser
13:08:52 downundermum sugarcoated_poison_apple what age did he wean?
13:08:57 carley yes, my little one is a booby baby too.
13:09:29 carley hates a bottle and a pacifier. refuses a bottle. period.
13:09:41 sugarcoated_poison_apple angelique weaned at about 18 months ... at that point i was 120 lbs (i'm 5'6) and thin as a rail, and i didn't have much milk left, so she pretty much lost interest.
13:09:42 DoulaMommy :heart: I love boobie babies
13:10:03 downundermum sugarcoated_poison_apple oh ok
13:10:09 crystalpea2005 i love boobie babies too
13:10:10 carley i have to go back to work soon so we just started spoon feeding her cereal in the am.  doing okay.
13:10:33 downundermum my kids  :heart: boobie
13:10:51 downundermum carley at 4m???
13:10:54 DoulaMommy my ds loved boobies, but I think dd loves it more!!
13:11:03 crystalpea2005 why am i not skinny?
13:11:06 carley boobie are the best!
13:11:16 sugarcoated_poison_apple her system isn't really ready to digest the cereal yet at 4 months ... it'll just fill her tummy with something that she can't get benefit from and it can make her really uncomfortable while her body tries to break it down
13:11:48 crystalpea2005 im having so much trouble loosing my preg fat
13:11:52 Mod_ariana For breastfed babies solids usually aren't indicated until 6 months
13:12:12 carley well we started with just a tiny bit and have gradually increased amounts.  she's still pooping every day.... i don
13:12:19 DoulaMommy I got lucky w/ dds pg, olny gained 17 lbs
13:12:37 carley i don't know what else to do b/c she refuses breast milk in a bottle from my hubbby.
13:12:41 sugarcoated_poison_apple i went back to work part-time when amorette was 8 weeks old ... started a full time job when she was 4 months ... she didn't start slids until she was 6 months and 1 week old.
13:12:57 carley would she take a bottle?
13:12:57 crystalpea2005 and youll know when your baby wants food shell grab the spoon
13:13:10 DoulaMommy try b-milk from a cup/syringe..or if your home, just nurse her
13:13:12 sugarcoated_poison_apple carley have you tried different kinds of nipples? sometimes it helps to try different shapes and brands
13:13:39 cali4niachef speaking of solids.    has anyone used the book Super Baby Food?
13:13:49 carley we have every kind of nipple, i don't give her the bottle, and i leave the room....
13:13:57 downundermum i dont start solids until 12m
13:14:04 DoulaMommy my dh hasnt fed dd, his job is diapers and baby walking" when hes home :)"
13:14:19 DoulaMommy why is dh feeding her if your home?
13:14:19 Mod_ariana http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/solids-when.html   Here is some info on solids
13:14:36 sugarcoated_poison_apple argh, i keep accidentally hitting keys that make me go back a page and i have to re-log in and i lose all of the previous conversation
13:14:44 DoulaMommy lol S
13:14:47 DoulaMommy PA
13:14:53 carley b/c we want her to get used to the bottle when i'm not at home
13:14:57 DoulaMommy I did that too
13:15:10 carley i can't let her go cold turkey my first day back to work.
13:15:12 DoulaMommy are you going back to work?
13:15:17 carley yep.
13:15:19 Mod_ariana http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/alternative-feeding.html   Here's a page with tons of links on getting breast milk into baby when mommy's not there
13:15:20 crystalpea2005 mackenzie has never had a bottle it gets hard caused im the only one that can feed him
13:15:35 DoulaMommy try a cup, open top, not a sippy
13:15:57 downundermum thats the joy of kids  crystalpea2005
13:16:00 DoulaMommy I love that Im the only one that can feed dd,
13:16:18 Mod_ariana It's really such a short time that baby depends on you.  I miss those days
13:16:46 TurboClaudia wow... that was a project and a half of a poopy diaper.  it even required hosing off in the tub
13:16:58 DoulaMommy my ds would take a bottle and I ended up weaning @ 14 wks cause of his preference""
13:17:07 downundermum i know i will  Mod_ariana but i am looking forward to them too
13:17:09 carley trust me. i love being the only one that can feed sophie. but my heart will break when i'm not home and she's miserable and hungry.
13:17:42 downundermum do u have to work carley ?
13:17:44 Mod_ariana Ladies -- I really want to stay and chat more but I must go.  You are welcome (encouraged even) to stay and chat with each other and please come back next week for more of the same!

 

 

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