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12:01:59 |
Mod_ariana |
Hi generickat |
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12:02:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
hi generickat |
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12:02:05 |
generickat |
question... |
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12:02:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
shoot |
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12:02:59 |
TurboClaudia |
he loves his oatmeal |
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12:03:35 |
generickat |
The pediatrician discussed my son (4
months) weight with me he's almost 17lbs
now and said that it's time to regulate
how much breastmilk he eats...as in stop
feeding him on demand. And that I should
start solids since he sits up
unassisted. |
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12:03:45 |
generickat |
Anyways the point is...when do you stop
feeding on demand? |
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12:03:53 |
TurboClaudia |
bah bah BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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12:04:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
um no |
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12:04:15 |
generickat |
he's gained over 10 lbs in 4 months I
thought he was doing well. |
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12:04:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's completely incorrect |
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12:04:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
hang on |
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12:04:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
let me get a little something for you to
read |
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12:04:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
from the LLL book |
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12:05:01 |
generickat |
ok |
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12:05:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
(pardon my typo's I was typing straight
out of the book) |
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12:05:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
The Baby Who is PLEASENTLY PLUMP |
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12:05:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
If your breastfed baby is a round little
fatty, some may say he's gaining weight
too much. While he may weigh more than
the average shown on the doctor's
charts, the baby on human milk alone
will not be overweight. A totally
breastfed baby who is overweight" is not
necessarily overfat or obese. Still in a
weight-conscious world, even baby fat is
suspect and the mother of a plump, fully
breastfed baby may be told that her
child should be put on a diet. Heredity
plays a definie role in determining a
child's growth pattern.........There are
hazards in limiting growth by putting a
baby on a diet. The young child is a
dynamic body builder, producing cells of
all kinds, brain and nerv cells as well
as fat cells. searchers have observed
that the flesh of a breastfed baby is
firmer than that of a formula-fed
infant. THERE ARE NO EMPTY CALORIES IN
HUMAN MILK, AS THERE ARE IN HIGHLY
PROCESSED FOODS. It must |
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12:05:33 |
generickat |
because I've been fighting with my Mom
and everyone else about delaying solids
since he was 2 months old. I don't want
to start until he's 6 months. |
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12:06:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
so really there is nothing wrong with
you child. |
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12:06:58 |
generickat |
thanks. I was worried because I'm
overweight that he might end up
overweight well at lest that's where
everyone is pushing a link to |
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12:07:05 |
generickat |
that if I keep breastfeeding him he will
be fat |
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12:07:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
exposing them to table foods, rice
cereal, or anything other than
breastmilk before 6 months old will
acutally make the baby fatter |
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12:07:18 |
generickat |
so I should start solids |
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12:07:23 |
downundermum |
hi all |
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12:07:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
see that doesn't make any sense at all |
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12:07:34 |
grypx |
hi |
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12:07:34 |
Mod_ariana |
Studies show that babies who are
exclusively breastfed are less likely to
be obese than those that are formula fed |
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12:07:45 |
therealocelot |
when did you start solids when you were
a baby? :) |
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12:07:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
aif you can check out the womanly art of
breastfeeding and show your family and
ped that part, maybe that would help |
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12:07:59 |
generickat |
my mom started us at 2 months |
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12:08:02 |
generickat |
me and my older brother |
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12:08:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
you see like the passage said there are
no empty calories in BM |
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12:08:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
hi grypx |
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12:08:20 |
generickat |
i've always been chubby nad my brother
has always been skinny |
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12:08:26 |
Mod_ariana |
17 pounds at 4 months is not too big at
all! |
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12:08:36 |
Mod_ariana |
My boys were well over that |
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12:08:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
not at all |
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12:08:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's how big my son was |
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12:08:44 |
Mod_ariana |
and they are *perfect* |
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12:08:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
he was 20 at 6 months |
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12:08:50 |
generickat |
maybe Houston doctor's just suck because
someone else here in houston got the
same feedback |
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12:08:56 |
generickat |
from a houston pediatrician |
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12:08:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
so there is nothing wrong with your
child |
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12:09:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
hhmmm that's sad |
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12:09:19 |
generickat |
she's on live journal as well name is
carbonish |
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12:09:20 |
Host_Housepoet |
well don't listen. you don't have to.
you don't have to do anything that doc
says. |
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12:09:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh and she had the same run in with this
doc? |
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12:09:30 |
Mod_ariana |
Breastfeeding on demand helps a baby to
figure out how to eat when it's hungry |
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12:09:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
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12:09:38 |
generickat |
Different doctor |
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12:09:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh i see |
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12:09:43 |
generickat |
we both live in Houston though |
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12:09:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
well, how do you feel about this info
we've given you |
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12:09:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
what does your gut tell you? |
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12:09:57 |
generickat |
I'm the only patient that my doc sees
that breastfeeds |
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12:10:01 |
generickat |
pretty pitiful |
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12:10:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh that's sad |
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12:10:15 |
batty |
howdy, breastfeeders! |
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12:10:19 |
Mod_ariana |
Never take breastfeeding advice from
someone who isn't trained in
breastfeeding |
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12:10:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
hey batty !!!!!!!!! |
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12:10:26 |
Mod_ariana |
batty Hi! |
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12:10:31 |
generickat |
at first he was encouraging me but, now
he's sayin gthat my son is overweight
and due to me being overweight i need to
watch him and sta r t regulating |
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12:10:32 |
batty |
*mwah* housepoet |
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12:10:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh ya Mod_ariana just hit the nail on
the head |
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12:10:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
:) |
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12:10:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
wow, that an idiot |
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12:10:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is just bad bad bad advice |
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12:11:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's completely not true |
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12:11:07 |
generickat |
well ok... thnx for the advice. |
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12:11:08 |
Mod_ariana |
As soon as he starts to crawl and move
around his rolls of fat are going to
start MELTING |
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12:11:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
we have some links to kellymom.com that
we can pass along to you as well |
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12:11:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes, he's going to trim down. |
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12:11:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
I hope we've helped you |
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12:11:25 |
TurboClaudia |
generickat, can you find a new ped?
that one sounds like bad bad news... |
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12:11:31 |
Mod_ariana |
and then the doc is going to tell you
he's too thin and you need to give
solids to fatten him up |
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12:11:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
we're here if you need anything. |
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12:11:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
ha, what a load of bull |
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12:11:49 |
generickat |
yea i'm just worried because
pediatricians in houston seem to be
anti-breastfeeding |
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12:11:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
docs get little or no training in
lactation |
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12:12:01 |
Mod_ariana |
generickat you should post this on LJ in
the breastfeeding community and we can
get you even more info |
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12:12:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
you wouldn't go to a ped for brain
surgery right? |
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12:12:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes please do |
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12:12:14 |
Mod_ariana |
and maybe even someone will have a
recommendation for a new doc |
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12:12:15 |
generickat |
when i delivered the pediatrician came
into my room and tried to convince me to
formula feed |
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12:12:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
this just sounds like a nightmare |
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12:12:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm glad I don't live in houston |
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12:12:42 |
generickat |
the woman said that young mothers have
such a difficult time breastfeeding that
they are better off with formula and
that there is no difference |
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12:12:46 |
Mod_ariana |
You're such a great mom for sticking
with it despite the lack of support!!!! |
|
12:12:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
wow |
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12:12:48 |
generickat |
i wrote a huge letter |
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12:12:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
you really are |
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12:12:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
we applaude you |
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12:12:57 |
TurboClaudia |
and generickat, what is your reason for
delaying the introduction of solids
until 6 months? because although that's
wonderful ideal, every baby is different
and if you watch for their cues, they
will let you know if they want solids
earlier or later. |
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12:13:03 |
Host_Housepoet |
and for being smart enough to question
this bad information as well |
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12:13:13 |
generickat |
well trey sits up unassisted |
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12:13:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
TurboClaudia that is not a good
recomendation |
|
12:13:20 |
generickat |
however he has a toungue reflex |
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12:13:31 |
generickat |
i'm going to breastfeed until he's a
year old |
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12:13:34 |
generickat |
that's the plan. |
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12:13:35 |
TurboClaudia |
why not? |
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12:13:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
no baby, no matter how much they grab at
food and sit up on their own should be
given solids before 6 months |
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12:14:07 |
generickat |
i also read in a few books that it will
mess up their digestive tract if you
give solids before 6 months |
|
12:14:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
one minute here, I'm getting a link |
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12:14:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
and some info |
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12:14:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
exactly |
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12:14:26 |
Mod_ariana |
It's unusual that a baby's digestive
system would be ready for solids before
6 months |
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12:14:44 |
Mod_ariana |
There's not any harm in waiting but
there could be harm in starting too
early |
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12:15:02 |
generickat |
i know that my son is big and he's
developing fast but, I don't want to
rush him... |
|
12:15:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
from kellymom |
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12:15:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
Most babies will become developmentally
and physiologically ready to eat solids
by 6-9 months of age. For some babies,
delaying solids longer than six months
can be a good thing; for example, some
doctors may recommend delaying solids
for 12 months if there is a family
history of allergies. |
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12:15:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
Reasons for delaying solids |
|
12:15:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
Although some of the reasons listed here
assume that your baby is breastfed or
fed breastmilk only, experts recommend
that solids be delayed for formula fed
babies also. |
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12:15:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
# Delaying solids gives baby greater
protection from illness. |
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12:15:30 |
generickat |
is there really a valid reason why i
should start at 4 months? besides good
fatty christmas food lol not really i
might as well hold off another 2 months
and make sure he is absolutely ready |
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12:15:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
Delaying solids gives baby's digestive
system time to mature. |
|
12:15:35 |
downundermum |
does anyone else here believe in letting
baby self wean? |
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12:15:38 |
Host_Housepoet |
Delaying solids decreases the risk of
food allergies. |
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12:15:45 |
TurboClaudia |
as i said, it is a wonderful ideal and
a solid guideline, but i do believe
every baby is different and individual
circumstances need to be taken into
account |
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12:15:48 |
Mod_ariana |
downundermum Ummmm YES |
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12:15:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
Delaying solids helps to protect baby
from iron-deficiency anemia. |
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12:16:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
and the kicker |
|
12:16:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
Delaying solids helps to protect baby
from future obesity. |
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12:16:04 |
grypx |
does delaying solids affect speech
development? |
|
12:16:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
here is the link |
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12:16:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/delay-solids.html |
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12:16:18 |
TurboClaudia |
yes, i have read that page |
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12:16:28 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
hello, ladies |
|
12:16:32 |
Host_Housepoet |
hey spa! |
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12:16:32 |
TurboClaudia |
i have read most of the kellymom site |
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12:16:35 |
Mod_ariana |
TurboClaudia I agree that each baby is
an individual |
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12:16:45 |
Mod_ariana |
and a very few will be ready for solids
before 6 months |
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12:16:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
and you still think that babies should
start solids before 6 months? |
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12:16:57 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
brb ... looks like some people are lost
in another room |
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12:17:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
did you see the diagram on the page that
I linked? |
|
12:17:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
thanks SPA |
|
12:17:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
Delaying solids decreases the risk of
food allergies. |
|
12:17:28 |
Host_Housepoet |
It is well documented that prolonged
exclusive breastfeeding results in a
lower incidence of food allergies (see
Allergy References and Risks of
Artificial Feeding). From birth until
somewhere between four and six |
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12:17:32 |
TurboClaudia |
so you understand where i'm coming from,
my partner's family has a history of
allergies, my goal was to exculsively
breastfeed our son and delay solids for
as long as possible, but unfortunately
we ran into some problems at age 4.5
months |
|
12:17:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
months of age, babies possess what is
often referred to as an open gut."" |
|
12:17:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
This means that the spaces between the
cells of the small intestines will
readily allow intact macromolecules,
including whole proteins and pathogens,
to pass directly into the
bloodstream.This is great for your
breastfed baby as it allows beneficial
antibodies in breastmilk to pass more
directly into baby's bloodstream, but it
also means that large proteins from
other foods (which may predispose baby
to allergies) and disease-causing
pathogens can pass right through, too.
During baby's first 4-6 months, while
the gut is still open," antibodies
(sIgA) from breastmilk coat baby's
digestive tract and provide passive
immunity, reducing the likelihood of
illness and allergic reactions before
gut closure occurs. Baby starts
producing these antibodies on his own at
around 6 months, and gut closure should
have occurred by this time also. See How
Breast Milk Protects Newborns and The
Case for the Virgin Gut f |
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12:17:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
what kinds of problems did you run into |
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12:18:31 |
TurboClaudia |
my son was not gaining weight,
increasing my milik supply worked only
very little, and we chose to supplement
with a combo of donated breastmilk, my
own pumped milk, foritfied goat milk and
solids |
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12:18:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
well, your situation is a very rare one
and we are skeptical about giving out
advice that isn't the norm |
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12:18:58 |
mindymoon |
strangely enough, it doesn' tlook that
different in here. |
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12:19:01 |
mindymoon |
Hello everyone :) |
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12:19:06 |
TurboClaudia |
we watched him very closely when
introducing foods |
|
12:19:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
hello mindymoon |
|
12:19:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
understableable |
|
12:19:16 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i got 'em ^_^ |
|
12:19:17 |
tobeborn |
hi all. |
|
12:19:21 |
TurboClaudia |
how is watching your baby's cues not the
norm? |
|
12:19:29 |
mindymoon |
I promise I won't get lost next time. |
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12:19:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is not what I stated |
|
12:19:38 |
Mod_ariana |
TurboClaudia that's a very rare
circumstance |
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12:19:46 |
TurboClaudia |
you stated that i gave a not good
recommendation"" |
|
12:19:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
I stated that introducing solids before
6 months because of supply issues is
rare and not the norm |
|
12:19:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
that is what I am saying. |
|
12:20:05 |
TurboClaudia |
prior to that, you stated i gave a not
good recommednation"" |
|
12:20:06 |
Mod_ariana |
TurboClaudia I think the thing is that
you have a rare, really rare situation |
|
12:20:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm not trying to attack you here, I'm
just trying to provide the women in this
room with accurate information |
|
12:20:12 |
TurboClaudia |
ok, i get it |
|
12:20:15 |
TurboClaudia |
we disagree |
|
12:20:23 |
Mod_ariana |
That advice is not good advice for most
women |
|
12:20:23 |
TurboClaudia |
i think i will have to go now |
|
12:20:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
precicsly |
|
12:20:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
thanks for coming by |
|
12:20:39 |
TurboClaudia |
my son is demanding my attention and
obviously my experience is not welcome
here |
|
12:20:41 |
TurboClaudia |
thank you all |
|
12:20:44 |
TurboClaudia |
have a nice chat |
|
12:20:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
no one said that |
|
12:20:47 |
Host_Housepoet |
please |
|
12:20:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh gawd |
|
12:20:56 |
grypx |
hehehe |
|
12:21:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
please don't mind that woman ladies |
|
12:21:07 |
batty |
yikes. |
|
12:21:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
she was gving out advice that was good
in most cases |
|
12:21:30 |
Host_Housepoet |
well. I don't like misinformation, and
her situation was rare. |
|
12:21:33 |
grypx |
I have a question about delaying solids? |
|
12:21:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
HAHAH |
|
12:21:38 |
generickat |
sorry for leaving like that mozilla
messed up. |
|
12:21:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's ok |
|
12:21:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
are you serious grypx |
|
12:21:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
|
12:21:58 |
grypx |
yes |
|
12:22:00 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok shoot |
|
12:22:09 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
ongz you disagree qwith me on something,
so i'll just take off cuz u r so evile
... |
|
12:22:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
SPA you know it |
|
12:22:16 |
mindymoon |
hehe |
|
12:22:25 |
grypx |
I was wondering if waiting too long
would cause problems with speech or
swallowing later? |
|
12:22:27 |
grypx |
hahaha |
|
12:22:37 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
please excuse typos ... it;s
horrendously cold in here and i'm
wearing gloves to type |
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12:22:40 |
Host_Housepoet |
hhmmm |
|
12:22:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
that one I have never heard of |
|
12:22:53 |
mindymoon |
You should cut the fingers of your
gloves off. |
|
12:22:54 |
Host_Housepoet |
if you want to check out thsi link |
|
12:22:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/solids/delay-solids.html |
|
12:22:57 |
grypx |
me either, but my mom is all over me |
|
12:23:01 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's about delyaing solids |
|
12:23:19 |
mindymoon |
Sorry... I know that's OT, but on that
subject at least, I'm an expert. Get
cloth stretchy gloves and cut the
fingertips off. |
|
12:23:22 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i know a lot of people don./t really
start solids until about a year when
they're breastfeeding, and their kids do
ok |
|
12:23:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
I didn't see in my reading a connection
between speech issues and solid delays |
|
12:23:37 |
newmom |
hi, i'm reletively new here, |
|
12:23:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
greetings newmom |
|
12:23:51 |
tobeborn |
hi newmom, im new here too |
|
12:23:54 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i;'m planning on knitting myself some
fingerless gloves but i've got a lot of
other stuff to knit first. *lol* |
|
12:23:55 |
Host_Housepoet |
grypx have you done any research on the
net? |
|
12:23:55 |
therealocelot |
if you wait till the kid is 10, you
might have a problem |
|
12:23:58 |
Host_Housepoet |
hi tobeborn |
|
12:24:03 |
grypx |
I had my mom telling me she would never
learn how to eat if I waited - it
sounded crazy but I was nervous |
|
12:24:04 |
tobeborn |
hello |
|
12:24:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
haha therealocelot |
|
12:24:07 |
generickat |
I have another question. I want to make
my own baby food. i read before that you
just mix breastmilk with it in the
blender...but, my mom said that it
wouldn't absorb very well and we should
just use water...has anyone experienced
mixing it with breastmilk |
|
12:24:22 |
grypx |
I've been reading about the benefits,
but I haven't looked for negatives |
|
12:24:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
I used to mix avocado with bm |
|
12:24:22 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
breast milk would be fine |
|
12:24:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
but my son didn't like it much |
|
12:24:32 |
batty |
generickat i mix everything with BM |
|
12:24:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
I didn't do the whole ebm and food
mixture |
|
12:24:45 |
generickat |
do you just use a blender |
|
12:24:52 |
generickat |
or do you handmix? |
|
12:24:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
see that is another issue with starting
solids early |
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12:25:14 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i mean, when you buy baby cereal it says
to mix with formula or milk ... and i've
mixed my milk with carrots, sweet
potatoes, anything. it mixes in as well
as any other liquid |
|
12:25:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
if you 'have' to mix BM with food just
to get the baby to eat it, then baby is
saying 'im not ready for this flavour' |
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12:25:39 |
batty |
agreed housepoet |
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12:25:58 |
generickat |
i read before not to feed your kid
cereal if you breastfeed. is this true ? |
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12:26:02 |
batty |
i use the blender |
|
12:26:05 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
sometimes you have to thin things to
thew right consistency tho, and breast
milk adds nutrition that water wouldn't |
|
12:26:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
I didn't do rice cereal |
|
12:26:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
because it's just a filler |
|
12:26:18 |
newmom |
i was unsuccessful at breastfeeding and
had to switch to formula milk, my
daughter is 5 months and is taking 9oz
bottles and 2 spoonfeeds a day, and she
is thriving |
|
12:26:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
it has no nutritional calue |
|
12:26:29 |
batty |
rice cereal is the nutritional
equivalent of cardboard. heh |
|
12:26:36 |
ham_bone |
I think I am in the right place now! |
|
12:26:38 |
ham_bone |
:) |
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12:26:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
hi ham_bone |
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12:26:55 |
batty |
howdy ham_bone |
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12:26:56 |
generickat |
so skipping it wouldn't be a sin? |
|
12:26:56 |
ham_bone |
hi! How are you doing |
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12:27:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
good good |
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12:27:07 |
Host_Housepoet |
no it wouldn't |
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12:27:09 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
you don't really need cereal ... they
mostly recommend it because of the iron
content, because with formula babies you
rally need to make sure they get enough
iron. iron is highly bioavailable in
breast milk though, and anemia in
breastfed infants is incre |
|
12:27:11 |
batty |
generickat; i dont give boog cereal
either. its pointless |
|
12:27:14 |
Host_Housepoet |
see a lot of our moms did do rice cereal |
|
12:27:14 |
tobeborn |
i plan on skipping cereal |
|
12:27:18 |
Host_Housepoet |
and they tell us to do it too |
|
12:27:25 |
ham_bone |
I am skipping cereal as well |
|
12:27:31 |
ham_bone |
I don't see the reason for it |
|
12:27:33 |
Host_Housepoet |
bc they dont want to feel like they
didn't do any thing wrong with us |
|
12:27:38 |
batty |
because we were fed formula |
|
12:27:52 |
Host_Housepoet |
that's like the main reason a lot of
older moms, our moms, and us disagree |
|
12:27:58 |
newmom |
my daughter eats apple and strawberry
baby rice that is gluten free |
|
12:28:06 |
batty |
my mom asked me when i was going to
start giving boog vitamins |
|
12:28:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
they take us, bfing, co-sleeping, and
the like, as an insult |
|
12:28:10 |
ham_bone |
My mom said she started feeding us table
scraps"" |
|
12:28:11 |
batty |
i'm all why?"" |
|
12:28:15 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
amorette got oatmeal and barley cereals,
just while i was working (at the
sitter's) ... she's never had the rice.
*lol* i just sent it with her because i
got it free from wic, and right now i'm
just accumulating boxes of it that will
go to the food pantry |
|
12:28:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
bc we didn't do it the SAME way they did
;) |
|
12:28:39 |
Host_Housepoet |
right. |
|
12:28:45 |
Host_Housepoet |
sorry to go off on that mom tangent |
|
12:28:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
hehe |
|
12:28:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
so it's true. Rice cereal is all process |
|
12:28:56 |
generickat |
lol yea my mom is so mad about us
co-sleeping |
|
12:28:56 |
ham_bone |
I get cereal for free from wic too and I
don't know what I am going to do with
it. I was thinking about donating it to
a shelter |
|
12:29:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
you should |
|
12:29:04 |
generickat |
she's like put him in the crib |
|
12:29:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
definetly |
|
12:29:07 |
generickat |
you're spoiling him! |
|
12:29:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
eep |
|
12:29:12 |
batty |
i have to say, though, that my mom's
really supportive of my bf and now that
she knows what i've told her she regrets
stopping with me. but christ, that was
32 years ago, i cant really blame her
for that |
|
12:29:13 |
Host_Housepoet |
well not everyone colseeps and that's ok |
|
12:29:16 |
ham_bone |
NO spoiling the baby |
|
12:29:23 |
ham_bone |
I cannot convince my husband to co
-sleep |
|
12:29:23 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh man my mom too batty |
|
12:29:24 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
there are recipes out there for making
teething cookies with baby cereal, too |
|
12:29:30 |
ham_bone |
in his defense he is a heavy sleeper |
|
12:29:31 |
generickat |
lol my husband loves co-sleeping |
|
12:29:34 |
generickat |
he is my backbone |
|
12:29:39 |
ham_bone |
though I would put her on my side |
|
12:29:40 |
tobeborn |
we love co sleeping too |
|
12:29:50 |
batty |
brb |
|
12:29:51 |
generickat |
he loves that i breastfeed and he tells
EVERYONE about it |
|
12:29:51 |
newmom |
what are teething cookies? |
|
12:30:01 |
ham_bone |
Good for your husband |
|
12:30:02 |
generickat |
oh yea i had a question about teething
cookies as well |
|
12:30:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
teething cookies |
|
12:30:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
processed |
|
12:30:10 |
ham_bone |
I love when people are proud about
breastfeeding |
|
12:30:11 |
Host_Housepoet |
;) |
|
12:30:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
me too. |
|
12:30:27 |
Host_Housepoet |
yes, teething cookies are proccessed
food as well. |
|
12:30:28 |
ham_bone |
I just wished that more everyday people
around me breastfed |
|
12:30:32 |
generickat |
trey is teething...mom said to get him
the bisquits |
|
12:30:33 |
tobeborn |
me too |
|
12:30:34 |
generickat |
are they safe? |
|
12:30:36 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
you know, like you can buy the gerber
biter biscuits ... some people pregfer
to make their own things |
|
12:30:42 |
Host_Housepoet |
I didn't do them |
|
12:30:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
we just did a wet wash cloth in the
freezer |
|
12:30:53 |
Host_Housepoet |
and let him chew on that |
|
12:30:53 |
newmom |
i have never heard oft them |
|
12:30:56 |
tobeborn |
going to LLL meetings is the only time
im around other bf moms |
|
12:31:06 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can also make your own so you know
what ingredients are going in them |
|
12:31:16 |
Host_Housepoet |
but basically they have no nutritional
value |
|
12:31:17 |
ham_bone |
really? |
|
12:31:29 |
generickat |
we don't have an active LLL in
houston...pretty pitiful. I've only met
one other mom in houston that
breastfeeds. and that's from livejournal |
|
12:31:37 |
generickat |
i know lots of mom's but, they ALL
formula feed |
|
12:31:43 |
Host_Housepoet |
you can start your own supprt group
generickat |
|
12:31:48 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
Host_Housepoet i mentioned using rice
cereal to make teething cookies, that's
why it was brought up |
|
12:31:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
we don't have one here in Santa Barbara |
|
12:31:54 |
newmom |
is anyone else here from the uk? |
|
12:31:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh that's what you used it for? |
|
12:32:02 |
Host_Housepoet |
do tell do tell! |
|
12:32:05 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'd love to see that recipe |
|
12:32:06 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i've never been to lll ... my mom used
to go when she had me tho (23 years ago) |
|
12:32:12 |
generickat |
my best friend in as labor and delivery
nurse |
|
12:32:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
maybe you could post it in bfing and
we'll put it in the memories |
|
12:32:18 |
generickat |
and she's so pro formula it's insane |
|
12:32:24 |
tobeborn |
ick |
|
12:32:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
oh that's sad |
|
12:32:26 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm sorry |
|
12:32:33 |
ham_bone |
my family was pro formula too |
|
12:32:37 |
Host_Housepoet |
There are lots of natural family
communitys on LJ |
|
12:32:41 |
generickat |
she said at Texas Women's hospital which
is the biggest delivery hospital in
houston 2/15 Mom's breastfeed |
|
12:32:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
naturalfamily is a good one |
|
12:32:50 |
Host_Housepoet |
that might be a good place to ask for
teething cookie recipes |
|
12:32:51 |
generickat |
and out of that 2 only 1 will do it
longer then 6 weeks generally |
|
12:32:51 |
ham_bone |
that is sad |
|
12:32:52 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i'm so lucky, my mom breastfed me and my
3 siblings |
|
12:32:59 |
tobeborn |
thats so sad |
|
12:33:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
hey guys, keep chatting, I'll brb dipe |
|
12:33:08 |
tobeborn |
my mom bf me and my 5 siblings |
|
12:33:20 |
ham_bone |
my mom did not breastfeed me, but I
think she was supportive of my decision
to BF, though my dad was not |
|
12:33:24 |
generickat |
my mom breastfed my older brother |
|
12:33:26 |
generickat |
but, not me |
|
12:33:28 |
tobeborn |
she pumped for me when i was in nicu |
|
12:33:32 |
mindymoon |
I am seriously concerned about this
story regarding the woman breastfeeding
on a UA flight. |
|
12:33:38 |
mindymoon |
not to change the subject or anything |
|
12:33:38 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
she cut me off at 13 months, but she's
regretted it ever since. my sisters and
brothers were all nursed for between 2
and 3 years |
|
12:33:41 |
ham_bone |
what story |
|
12:33:46 |
mindymoon |
but I have to fly on Monday and I want
to know what my rights are. |
|
12:33:54 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
mindymoon i hadn't heard about that, do
tell |
|
12:33:54 |
tobeborn |
i'll be flying soon too |
|
12:33:56 |
generickat |
did you hear about the woman that
breastfed her woman in houston after she
did a line of cocaine and it killed the
woman |
|
12:34:00 |
generickat |
it happened like 2 weeks ago |
|
12:34:03 |
generickat |
and was all over our news |
|
12:34:05 |
ham_bone |
yes I heard about that |
|
12:34:07 |
mindymoon |
Am I risking being banned from flight so
that I can't return next week? |
|
12:34:08 |
ham_bone |
very sad |
|
12:34:15 |
mindymoon |
if I refuse to cover up or go to the
bathroom? |
|
12:34:21 |
mindymoon |
I am googling like crazy, |
|
12:34:25 |
grypx |
nope |
|
12:34:34 |
mindymoon |
From what I can tell, the law was on her
side, but company policy" might not be." |
|
12:34:38 |
therealocelot |
call them and ask |
|
12:34:41 |
Host_Housepoet |
mindymoon I swa that too |
|
12:34:46 |
Host_Housepoet |
I was going to bring that up in the chat |
|
12:34:49 |
Host_Housepoet |
thanks for bringing it up |
|
12:34:54 |
mindymoon |
Yeah, therealoct, I know that's an
option |
|
12:34:56 |
Host_Housepoet |
here is the link everyone |
|
12:34:57 |
Host_Housepoet |
http://www.eurekareporter.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?ArticleID=6464 |
|
12:35:03 |
therealocelot |
and possibly say that you'll cancel your
flight rather than risk being banned |
|
12:35:09 |
therealocelot |
even if it isn't true :) |
|
12:35:14 |
mindymoon |
but what the man at the Info counter at
AA central tells you and what the woman
serving you your bag of peanuts tells
you are two completely different things |
|
12:35:40 |
grypx |
omg- I've seen people breastfeed on
planes, I didn't even know people took
issue |
|
12:35:40 |
tobeborn |
i cant imagine bf in an airlane bathroom |
|
12:35:44 |
mindymoon |
No, there... that wouldn't work. They
overbook flights on purpose this
season. They'd be delighted to have the
three seats open up without having to
issue a refund. |
|
12:36:10 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's odd, I don't know what people would
want more a screaming baby who's ears
are popping, or a quiet one nursing. |
|
12:36:17 |
tobeborn |
seriuosly.... |
|
12:36:31 |
tobeborn |
i dont get it |
|
12:36:47 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
omgz breastfeeding involves BOOBS but
not a man, it's unsightly |
|
12:36:59 |
therealocelot |
does the ACLU handle breastfeeding
cases? |
|
12:37:06 |
therealocelot |
just curious |
|
12:37:09 |
Host_Housepoet |
that I'm not sure about |
|
12:37:14 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
what if you drip milk in the aisle and
the flight attendant slips? |
|
12:37:17 |
Host_Housepoet |
that would be something we would have to
look into |
|
12:37:22 |
Host_Housepoet |
SPA! |
|
12:37:24 |
Host_Housepoet |
haahahah |
|
12:37:25 |
mindymoon |
In my googling, |
|
12:37:30 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
heehee\ |
|
12:37:39 |
mindymoon |
I discovered that United Airlines, the
airline in question, is also the
official airline" of the LLLI" |
|
12:37:45 |
tobeborn |
no way! |
|
12:37:46 |
mindymoon |
which struck me as really silly |
|
12:37:54 |
mindymoon |
Does the LLLI have something to say
about this? |
|
12:37:56 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, what the fork? |
|
12:38:02 |
mindymoon |
sigh. |
|
12:38:40 |
ham_bone |
dang |
|
12:38:44 |
Host_Housepoet |
ohhhhhhhh |
|
12:38:48 |
Host_Housepoet |
the LLL needs to know about this |
|
12:38:49 |
ham_bone |
I can't believe some people |
|
12:38:59 |
Host_Housepoet |
They have a policy to not work with
people who are against bfing |
|
12:39:01 |
magdalene74 |
hiyas |
|
12:39:03 |
ham_bone |
what is the big deal? Oh NOES...not
boobs |
|
12:39:04 |
Host_Housepoet |
it's a conflict of interest |
|
12:39:06 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
hi marie! |
|
12:39:21 |
Host_Housepoet |
I'm calling Carrie from ProMom right now |
|
12:39:25 |
magdalene74 |
hiya, how ya doin today? |
|
12:39:36 |
Host_Housepoet |
she's a LLL leader and the national
direcotr of Promom |
|
12:39:37 |
magdalene74 |
im still foaming over that whole
breastfeeding on airlines thing.. |
|
12:39:44 |
mindymoon |
I'm calling AA at the moment |
|
12:39:50 |
tobeborn |
yay! |
|
12:39:52 |
ham_bone |
alright ladies - I know this was quick
for me - but I need to run |
|
12:39:53 |
magdalene74 |
newmom.. start when the baby wants to
quit |
|
12:39:54 |
magdalene74 |
heh. |
|
12:39:57 |
ham_bone |
everyone have a nice day |
|
12:40:05 |
magdalene74 |
seeya hambone |
|
12:40:06 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
bye ham_bone , take care |
|
12:40:54 |
magdalene74 |
did anyone else see that newmom thing or
is my computer imagining things again? |
|
12:41:06 |
tobeborn |
i saw it |
|
12:41:27 |
grypx |
i didn't |
|
12:41:29 |
magdalene74 |
well good, nice to know im not totally
loosing it ;) |
|
12:42:00 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
i didn't |
|
12:42:11 |
magdalene74 |
asdfjkl;. |
|
12:42:12 |
magdalene74 |
heh |
|
12:42:17 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
but then, i lost it years ago ... hehe |
|
12:42:23 |
magdalene74 |
::grin::\ |
|
12:42:27 |
Xavier |
Hey everyone |
|
12:42:34 |
grypx |
ohhh I had another solids question |
|
12:42:34 |
magdalene74 |
Hey xavier.. |
|
12:42:34 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
hi Xavier |
|
12:42:38 |
tobeborn |
hi |
|
12:42:44 |
magdalene74 |
btw, i hate xes... they are so hard to
hit LOL |
|
12:42:47 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yes, grypx |
|
12:42:52 |
Xavier |
Noel called me in on this, and she says
I'm the coolest chick in teh whole world
:) |
|
12:42:58 |
mindymoon |
I'm still on the phone with American.
They say that they don't think they have
any set policies regarding
breastfeeding. |
|
12:43:08 |
Host_Housepoet |
ok |
|
12:43:12 |
Host_Housepoet |
that you are my dear |
|
12:43:13 |
Xavier |
Actually I'm a LLL Leader as well as the
Executive Director for ProMoM |
|
12:43:15 |
Host_Housepoet |
everyone this is Carrie |
|
12:43:15 |
magdalene74 |
well shoot i told ya what to do mindy |
|
12:43:19 |
mindymoon |
I asked her to check with a supervisor
to make sure that I would not receive
the same abominable treatment that the
woman on their competitor receivied. |
|
12:43:25 |
Host_Housepoet |
SHe's the head chick at promom and a
great LLL leader in Atlanta |
|
12:43:27 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
well if they don't have a set policy, no
one can make you stop |
|
12:43:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
she's also my friend. :) |
|
12:43:32 |
Xavier |
Awww :) |
|
12:43:42 |
mindymoon |
See, sugar, you say that |
|
12:43:49 |
grypx |
there was an article a few months ago
that recommended feeding children the
food you eat, but shoudl I still start
one food at a time? |
|
12:43:52 |
grypx |
it confused me |
|
12:43:53 |
mindymoon |
but have you ever seen what happens when
a passenger argues with an attendant? |
|
12:44:02 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
yeah, i know ... in principal it works,
but if they start being bitchy it all
goes downhill |
|
12:44:04 |
mindymoon |
The other passengers get nervous and
irate with you. |
|
12:44:05 |
therealocelot |
mindymoon - get names, too, and record
the time of your call |
|
12:44:20 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
actually no, the few times i've flown
were uneventful |
|
12:44:31 |
Host_Housepoet |
Do laws still hold up when you're flying
in the air |
|
12:44:36 |
magdalene74 |
definately feed one food at a time.. |
|
12:44:44 |
mindymoon |
They should, housepoet |
|
12:44:47 |
magdalene74 |
that way you know what caused a reaction
if there is one.. |
|
12:44:51 |
Host_Housepoet |
say you're flying from atlanta to LA are
you protected by both NIP laws while in
the air? |
|
12:44:58 |
magdalene74 |
otherwise you end up trying to eliminate
whole groups of things.. |
|
12:45:07 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
grypx ... yes, a lot of the foods we eat
are ok for babies, and you should follow
the same guideline of introducing one
thing at a time to watch for
sensitivities. |
|
12:45:14 |
grypx |
that's what I was worried about - I got
really confused as to what the article
was saying |
|
12:45:18 |
grypx |
ok thank you! |
|
12:45:29 |
Host_Housepoet |
grypx how old is your bebe now? |
|
12:45:44 |
magdalene74 |
I think you fall under the laws of the
originating city till you land in the
destination city |
|
12:45:46 |
grypx |
4 months - I want to delay till 12
months, but I'm curious |
|
12:45:48 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
my baby's first food was sweet potatoes
... she was a week past 6 months old,
and we steamed her sweet potato chunks
and let her go to town on it. she had a
blast. |
|
12:45:53 |
Xavier |
Grypx I definitely recommend Super Baby
Food" if you haven't already yet. It's
a great reference and resource" |
|
12:46:04 |
grypx |
I'm getting it for christmas :) |
|
12:46:17 |
Xavier |
I think Mag is right about that. I can
double check though. Got a friend who
works for Delta |
|
12:46:30 |
Xavier |
calling now |
|
12:46:57 |
sugarcoated_poison_apple |
