Mon Jun 28 22:30:07 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon [0/] Msg:I'm
ready for questions, but have one important thing to say:
Mon Jun 28 22:30:17 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:do tell
Mon Jun 28 22:30:32 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:When you go to the hospital to have a baby, a healthy full
term baby, do not let them separate you from your newborn
Mon Jun 28 22:30:43 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The baby's not dirty and needs no bath
Mon Jun 28 22:30:53 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The scale has wheels and can come to your room\
Mon Jun 28 22:30:58 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:I dont even go to the hospital to have my babies!! They
have all been born at home!
Mon Jun 28 22:31:07 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The temp can be taken under your babe's arm while he's in
your arms
Mon Jun 28 22:31:10 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:wish you'd been there for my first... they were mean about
me wanting to wait to bathe him
Mon Jun 28 22:31:11 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:this one is going to be born at home too
Mon Jun 28 22:31:18 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Do you have a schedule for delayed vaccination that you
could recommend? My 22 month is scheduled to start tomorrow and I am
wondering what I should have them give.
Mon Jun 28 22:31:28 2004:Hippy_Mama
[0/] Msg:I wish I had the courage to have this one at home. I'm a
wimp
Mon Jun 28 22:31:30 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Home births are almost always safer if this is within your
belief structure
Mon Jun 28 22:31:37 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:Does separation mean in the same room or physical
separation? IOW not ski-to-skin contact? Make sense?
Mon Jun 28 22:31:42 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:good answere
Mon Jun 28 22:31:51 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::)
Mon Jun 28 22:31:53 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, I like waiting, as you've done and then I give one
shot at a time
Mon Jun 28 22:32:02 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Do you recommed anyone first?
Mon Jun 28 22:32:03 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The DPT is the most relevant vaccine
Mon Jun 28 22:32:06 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:2 homeborn babies here too
Mon Jun 28 22:32:07 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:how do you feel about not immunizing?
Mon Jun 28 22:32:07 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:OK, thanks
Mon Jun 28 22:32:10 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The polio might be the least relevant
Mon Jun 28 22:32:26 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I like to present all the information I have and then
parents can decide.
Mon Jun 28 22:32:28 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:homegrown and homeborn!
Mon Jun 28 22:32:32 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I support not vacinating
Mon Jun 28 22:32:41 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:But, it's not right for eberyone
Mon Jun 28 22:32:45 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:where do you practice at?
Mon Jun 28 22:32:48 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:I think my ped will be pushing for Hib as well
Mon Jun 28 22:32:52 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:Is that because of the lack of recurance in the US? Or salk
vs sabine?
Mon Jun 28 22:32:53 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay, our ped just 'released' us from his practice
because our 24 month old isn't current on his vax
Mon Jun 28 22:32:57 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Why not come to Tahoe?
Mon Jun 28 22:33:02 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The HIB was a Godsend in the early eighties
Mon Jun 28 22:33:10 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:But the dz is almost gone now
Mon Jun 28 22:33:18 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:dz?
Mon Jun 28 22:33:19 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:ok, that is good to know
Mon Jun 28 22:33:24 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:I ask becauseI have a friend in his late 30's who is a
paraplegic due to polio exposure. He lived in a rural area.
Mon Jun 28 22:33:25 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh disease?
Mon Jun 28 22:33:26 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:It's not a bad vaccine but beyone 18-20 months it's much
less important
Mon Jun 28 22:33:31 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:dz = disease?
Mon Jun 28 22:33:33 2004:Crystal_in_Alaska
[0/] Msg:Polio was supposed to be declared eradicated last year by
WHO. Not sure what the date was changed to.
Mon Jun 28 22:33:33 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:for healthy babies, obviously
Mon Jun 28 22:33:40 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:dz=disease
Mon Jun 28 22:33:49 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:antibx=antibiotics
Mon Jun 28 22:33:51 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:gotcha :)
Mon Jun 28 22:33:54 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:vaccines= . . .
Mon Jun 28 22:33:57 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:$$$$$$$
Mon Jun 28 22:33:59 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay...where do you practice?
Mon Jun 28 22:33:59 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:so what exactly do you have against vaccines?
Mon Jun 28 22:34:00 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ROFL
Mon Jun 28 22:34:01 2004:Crystal_in_Alaska
[0/] Msg:amen
Mon Jun 28 22:34:07 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Santa Monica, CA
Mon Jun 28 22:34:13 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:If a child is going to get MMR do you recommend in early
childhood or adolescence?
Mon Jun 28 22:34:14 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:thats right ...just a $$$ thing!
Mon Jun 28 22:34:15 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:ah, of course. always about money
Mon Jun 28 22:34:15 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:<-------taking notes :)
Mon Jun 28 22:34:23 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Traci, vaccines have saved and continue to save millions of
lives
Mon Jun 28 22:34:24 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:where can I find a good guideline on a delayed schedule for
vaxing?
Mon Jun 28 22:34:41 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:vaccines have also destoyed lives
Mon Jun 28 22:34:42 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i'll be posting the transcripts on mommychats afterwards,
for anyone who will want this info
Mon Jun 28 22:34:45 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:But the whole truth is they may not be the best thing for
one individual child
Mon Jun 28 22:34:53 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:ty on that :)
Mon Jun 28 22:34:57 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:we have delayed and refused most of the vacs, i was just
curious about your viewpoint
Mon Jun 28 22:35:21 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:An "anti-vaccine" POV is not scientifically sound because
it doesn't take into account public health or a specific child's
needs and risk factors
Mon Jun 28 22:35:39 2004:Hippy_Mama
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Mon Jun 28 22:35:42 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:I am not oposed to vaxing, just to giving a tiny baby four
shots, containing anywhere from 4-16 different things for their tiny
bodies to fight
Mon Jun 28 22:35:45 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:we selectively vaccinate...what is your stance on DTaP, dr
jay?
Mon Jun 28 22:36:04 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:Does it concern you that some risk factors - egg allergies,
for example - would not be evident prior to the time for
vaccination, but those vaccines are still recommended?
Mon Jun 28 22:36:08 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The vaccines may be inherently flawed and the aluminum,
formalin and even (still?!!!) the mercury are bad for children and
other people
Mon Jun 28 22:36:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:here here ANGI
Mon Jun 28 22:36:17 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:looking for opinion on exposing child to chicken pox
instead of vaxing
Mon Jun 28 22:36:26 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:we give one at a time when he gets them, or will.
Mon Jun 28 22:36:29 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Dragon, egg allergies might be a problem but they claim
otherwise when it comes to the measles shot
Mon Jun 28 22:36:50 2004:Crystal_in_Alaska
[0/] Msg:Shannon, have a chicken pox party! ;)
Mon Jun 28 22:36:59 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:My 24 month old has had one DTaP and one MMR vax
Mon Jun 28 22:37:01 2004:seinla
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Mon Jun 28 22:37:04 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I disagree and thing that we should not ignore allergic and
other reaction possibilities
Mon Jun 28 22:37:12 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:My 4 month old does not want to leave my sling :)
Mon Jun 28 22:37:14 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:Crystal - I want to
Mon Jun 28 22:37:18 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:A question about the current public HHS breastfeeding
promotion ads. In thier current state are they effective abnd can
they be made more deffective in the future? I wish they mentioned
decresedf risk of cancer, obsity and SIDS, for example.
Mon Jun 28 22:37:22 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:I wish all were so level-headed. :)
Mon Jun 28 22:37:44 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Dr.Jay.... open a practice in Tahoe
Mon Jun 28 22:37:52 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg::)
Mon Jun 28 22:37:55 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:we are trying to find a good suggestion on a modified
schedule
Mon Jun 28 22:38:08 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Shannon, I am happy yo give varicella vaccination to anyone
over age five years because the dz is tough in the teens and later
Mon Jun 28 22:38:08 2004:Webmama_Tina
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Mon Jun 28 22:38:11 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Do you recommend MMR if the child is going to get it, in
childhood or wait until adolescence?
Mon Jun 28 22:38:11 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:so we can show our ped that we aren't NOT doing them, just
delaying them and finding the ones that work for us
Mon Jun 28 22:38:16 2004:Kimberly
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Mon Jun 28 22:38:17 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:i wish they said at least 6 months instead of just 6 months
Mon Jun 28 22:38:20 2004:Webmama_Tina
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Mon Jun 28 22:38:25 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:a friend of mine uses Stephanie Cave's schedule
Mon Jun 28 22:38:26 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and the chances of getting the dz diminish w age
Mon Jun 28 22:38:38 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:woops, accidentally clicked the wrong thing
Mon Jun 28 22:38:45 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:spritemama, they new ads are weak as can be
Mon Jun 28 22:38:47 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:do they know when kids will need a booster for varicella?
Mon Jun 28 22:38:47 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:a disgrace
Mon Jun 28 22:38:53 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:You saw "20/20"?
Mon Jun 28 22:38:58 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:Are you seeing many cases of wild CP in your practice?
Mon Jun 28 22:39:02 2004:Crystal_in_Alaska
[0/] Msg:The 20/20 bit was great
Mon Jun 28 22:39:12 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Angi, probably every 7-10 years and they may need two shots
to begin with . . .
Mon Jun 28 22:39:14 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I did, it was very sad that so much money was throw at the
truth to make it go away
Mon Jun 28 22:39:22 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:I have heard that if your child has not had Chicken Pox by
age 10 is a good age to get the vaccine.
Mon Jun 28 22:39:23 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Dragon, yes, every few weeks
Mon Jun 28 22:39:28 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:I am looking for a ped that we could go to for well baby
visits but will be supportive of selective vaxing. Is there a good
source, online or otherwise, for finding non-mainstream doctors?
Mon Jun 28 22:39:30 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:which 20/20?
Mon Jun 28 22:39:38 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:i was bothered by how they were weakened. I saw the 20/20
peice. You were great. :D
Mon Jun 28 22:39:42 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:The one about the breastfeeding campaigns Tina
Mon Jun 28 22:39:43 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:That's reassuring. I'm concerned that my son won't be
exposed.
Mon Jun 28 22:39:59 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:But, here's another problem: In the old days, exposure to
your classmates' cousing, sibs, chickenpox acted as a "booster" to
your immunity. Those days are long gone
Mon Jun 28 22:40:02 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh yes, i saw that one
Mon Jun 28 22:40:07 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:i have a breastfeeding/weight question when you are ready
for it, Dr. Gordon
Mon Jun 28 22:40:13 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Sprite, Thanks! I was proud of that
Mon Jun 28 22:40:21 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:QuietishElf - you could check out the "Finding Your Tribe"
and "Practitioner" boards ar Mothering.com
Mon Jun 28 22:40:22 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Why is that?
Mon Jun 28 22:40:23 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Good lighting and great editing made me look . . . wise
Mon Jun 28 22:40:30 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg::)
Mon Jun 28 22:40:32 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay - in our area we seem to still have lots of C/P in
kids who received the varicella vaccine
Mon Jun 28 22:40:44 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:I have seen that too
Mon Jun 28 22:40:46 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh yeah!!! i forgot you were in that dr jay! i did see
that!!!
Mon Jun 28 22:40:47 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:does that not provide the need 'booster' to immunity
Mon Jun 28 22:40:50 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Kids ar eno longer exposed to classroom-wide chickenpox
Mon Jun 28 22:40:56 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Therefore no "boosters"
Mon Jun 28 22:40:58 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:thanks Dragonfly, I will check again
Mon Jun 28 22:41:04 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:oh, because kids are kept separate
Mon Jun 28 22:41:08 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:when they are ill
Mon Jun 28 22:41:18 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:Yes. I remember reading that's why there was such longevity
for the vaccine in Japan - because the vaccination rate was only
about 50% and, so, those who were vaccinated were constantly having
their immunity boosted by exposure.
Mon Jun 28 22:41:36 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Elf, I have trouble finding docs who will even talk about
vaccines with parents
Mon Jun 28 22:41:47 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:why is that?
Mon Jun 28 22:41:48 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:I find that too
Mon Jun 28 22:41:49 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:We all think you know too little . . . and we know
everything
Mon Jun 28 22:41:49 2004:owlishqt
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Mon Jun 28 22:41:50 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:That is my Experience
Mon Jun 28 22:41:53 2004:mitchels_mommy03
[0/] Msg:Tina will you be posting this chat...Mitchel is up now and
I have to go...it was nice chatting...miss u guys
Mon Jun 28 22:41:54 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Thank the Goddess for our Dr, right Tina?
Mon Jun 28 22:41:58 2004:owlishqt
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Mon Jun 28 22:42:00 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:My understanding about breastfeeding and Vaxing is that
breastfeeding helps the immune system function better. for example
thit's the onlty source of IgA. Is delayed vax a further way to
strengthen the immune system or is bf plus the regular schedule also
e
Mon Jun 28 22:42:01 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:my dr. just did whatever we wanted. he didn't even discuss
it with us. he just said OK - you're the parent
Mon Jun 28 22:42:03 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, yes, the vaccines is farfrom 100%
Mon Jun 28 22:42:03 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:my ped just wants to 'scare' parents into vaxing
Mon Jun 28 22:42:04 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:My reason for NOT trusting Dr.s
Mon Jun 28 22:42:07 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:effiecient?
Mon Jun 28 22:42:22 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Mine talks about it with me - mostly to tell me of horror
cases he's seen of whatever vaccine we are currently refusing
Mon Jun 28 22:42:23 2004:kara
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Mon Jun 28 22:42:33 2004:kara
[0/] Disconnect:24.64.120.37
Mon Jun 28 22:42:33 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:angiemarie.... Alot of Dr.s are like that .... I would drop
them
Mon Jun 28 22:42:36 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:with horror stories of boys having chicken pox in their
penises and kids dying of measles
Mon Jun 28 22:42:41 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Sprite, BF makes everything about a baby's body work better
Mon Jun 28 22:42:44 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lol, yup....we have a FANTASTIC pediatrician here in fresno,
CA....AP friendly, supportive of non-vaxing, goes above and
beyond...he's a jewel
Mon Jun 28 22:42:54 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:It does NOT confer specific immunity to many diseases
though
Mon Jun 28 22:42:56 2004:lissi
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Mon Jun 28 22:42:57 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:but there are other aspects of his practice that I LOVE
Mon Jun 28 22:42:58 2004:lissi
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Mon Jun 28 22:42:58 2004:lissi
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Mon Jun 28 22:43:02 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:yes MARIE....i'll be posting the transcripts to the site
Mon Jun 28 22:43:04 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Tina!! IM SOOO jealous!
Mon Jun 28 22:43:14 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Just cuz a mom's immune to chickenpox doesn't give immunity
to her BF baby
Mon Jun 28 22:43:15 2004:mitchels_mommy03
[0/] Msg:thanks...nite all
Mon Jun 28 22:43:19 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Too bad we can't clone him LOL
Mon Jun 28 22:43:25 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:no kidding
Mon Jun 28 22:43:32 2004:mitchels_mommy03
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Mon Jun 28 22:43:33 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:I would love to have an AP friendly doc
Mon Jun 28 22:43:36 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay, i have a question about weight charts and
breastfeeding.
Mon Jun 28 22:43:37 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Who is your doctor and where is he?
Mon Jun 28 22:43:45 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Dr Kratzer, Fresno, CA
Mon Jun 28 22:43:54 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:I have a ped who will come in on Sunday morning, before
church, just to see if my child has an ear infection because he
doesn't want him to wait until Monday
Mon Jun 28 22:43:54 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Traci, the charts are worth very little.
Mon Jun 28 22:43:57 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:my baby is in teh 5th %ile and my dr wants me to start
cereal and vegetables.
Mon Jun 28 22:44:04 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:He takes good care of our little AP community here
Mon Jun 28 22:44:06 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:he came to check out both of my babies at my home after
they were born too
Mon Jun 28 22:44:16 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:On my website, I have a little essay "Look at the baby not
the scale"
Mon Jun 28 22:44:18 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:he's 5 months. i think it's a bad idea. he is sensitive to
many things in my diet
Mon Jun 28 22:44:19 2004:WeeHands
[0/] Msg:here in Canada the vax schedule is different (we still go
very slow) and it's almost impossible to find any Dr (AP or not) -
very frustrating
Mon Jun 28 22:44:22 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:so it's more of a passive rather than active immunity? Or
vuce versa?
Mon Jun 28 22:44:24 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:and we had a slow weight gainer and he never pressed me to
supplement or showed any concern, as long as he was healthy and
growing
Mon Jun 28 22:44:36 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:My dr. said I was strange because I am tandem nursing
Mon Jun 28 22:44:37 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:he just isn't very educated on BFing and is terrible about
vaxing
Mon Jun 28 22:44:46 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:i've read it, i believe. i have to go back in 1 week and
tell the dr that i did not start cereal or vegetables
Mon Jun 28 22:45:06 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:i dn't think he is underweight, just a small guy
Mon Jun 28 22:45:13 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:How old?
Mon Jun 28 22:45:21 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:I am fascinated by hoe formula feeding and breast feeding
affect vaccinatin effectiveness at whatever age it is done
Mon Jun 28 22:45:32 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:my oldest weighed 17 pounds on his first birthday, he was
in the 5th % his entire first year
Mon Jun 28 22:45:33 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:5 months, 8 at birth, 11 15 at the last appt 1 week ago
Mon Jun 28 22:45:42 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:BF confers both passive and active immunity but it's most
to the dz of the week rather than anything old
Mon Jun 28 22:45:44 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:but he was growing and had wet diapers and nursing like
crazy
Mon Jun 28 22:45:46 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:I have small babies- a friend of mine has a daughter that
is 3 mo younger than my daughter and she is bigger than my
daughter... oh well I have small healthy babies and she has larger
healthy babies
Mon Jun 28 22:45:56 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:my guy too, angimarie26
Mon Jun 28 22:46:07 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Traci, babies looking good, meeting milestones, meeting
family size, are almost always just fine
Mon Jun 28 22:46:14 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:OK LADIES, just had the suggestion....PLEASE TAKE SIDE
CONVERSATIONS TO PRIVATE MESSAGE....right click on person's name and
choose "send message"
Mon Jun 28 22:46:23 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:ty tina
Mon Jun 28 22:46:32 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:ty tina
Mon Jun 28 22:46:32 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:but now he is 5 and wearing a 5T and weighs 45 pounds
Mon Jun 28 22:46:37 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Nearly double birth weight? Just fine if all else is OK
Mon Jun 28 22:46:42 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:k, i think he's going to freak when i tell him we didn't do
as he suggested.
Mon Jun 28 22:46:46 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:LET'S KEEP THE MAIN CHAT CONVERSATION TO DR JAY ANSWERING
OUR QUESTIONS ONE AT A TIME
Mon Jun 28 22:46:57 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:?
Mon Jun 28 22:47:13 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:"Look at the Baby Not the Scale"
Mon Jun 28 22:47:26 2004:Traci_in_Houston
[0/] Msg:i'll go back and read it.
Mon Jun 28 22:47:35 2004:stugroupie
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Mon Jun 28 22:47:43 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:What is your take on MMR vax?
Mon Jun 28 22:47:44 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 22:47:57 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:ah, it's been a few years since ththe immnology class. ;)
Will have to look into basic terminology again..Thanks.
Mon Jun 28 22:48:00 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 22:48:00 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 22:48:07 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The MMR might be as dangerous as some say but only to
certain kids
Mon Jun 28 22:48:18 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:so how do you know which kids?
Mon Jun 28 22:48:24 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:That is so scary!
Mon Jun 28 22:48:24 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:It is not a very important vaccine in America and other
parts of the Western Hemisphere
Mon Jun 28 22:48:40 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Marisa . . . you don't
Mon Jun 28 22:48:42 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:I know my little sister spiked very high fevers (worse each
time) with the MMR
Mon Jun 28 22:49:24 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I have had the MMR shot 5 times in my life, and still don't
register an immunity, so it could be worthless risk as well
Mon Jun 28 22:49:36 2004:owlishqt
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Mon Jun 28 22:49:39 2004:bananamama
[0/] Msg:My daughter got her 1st MMR shot at age 4 1/2, instead of
at the recommended age of 18 months. When do you recommend her
getting the MMR booster?
Mon Jun 28 22:49:56 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:banana, none needed IMO
Mon Jun 28 22:50:09 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:How important is a mother's immunity to MMR?
Mon Jun 28 22:50:12 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:you recommend skipping the MMR?
Mon Jun 28 22:50:25 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:I had no titer to rubella 5 years ago at the age of 32.
Mon Jun 28 22:50:26 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:I am pg and was told that my immunity is almost gone
Mon Jun 28 22:50:35 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:It's not a booster like the DPT and others: The MMR is
about 90% effeectibe and the seocnd one is given to try to pick up
that other 10%
Mon Jun 28 22:50:41 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:ah, ok
Mon Jun 28 22:50:46 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:90% of the kids who get a second don't really benefit
Mon Jun 28 22:50:51 2004:bananamama
[0/] Msg:ah, ok. Thanks!
Mon Jun 28 22:50:52 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:band i was bf as a child.
Mon Jun 28 22:50:59 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The risk of autism is present in some kids . . .
Mon Jun 28 22:51:15 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:do you feel that the autism risk lessens in older kids?
Mon Jun 28 22:51:19 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, yes, I do not like the shot unless there are risk
factors in a child's life
Mon Jun 28 22:51:26 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:my MW was suggesting that I may need a booster when I am
done nursing, since my immunity is so lo
Mon Jun 28 22:51:30 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:Dr, what would you recommend to one of your own patients
who have perfectly healthy children?
Mon Jun 28 22:51:39 2004:Justine
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Mon Jun 28 22:51:50 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:what factors are condusive to autisn?
Mon Jun 28 22:51:51 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Angi, rubella vax after pregnancy can rarely cause
arthritsi in adult women
Mon Jun 28 22:51:55 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:how serious are the MMR diseases in healthy children with a
healthy diet etc
Mon Jun 28 22:51:55 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:angimarie26 get your titers rechecked 3 mos after delivery
Mon Jun 28 22:52:03 2004:WeeHands
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Mon Jun 28 22:52:07 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:even if I am nursing?
Mon Jun 28 22:52:10 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Last year, we had 14 cases of rubella in America. The shot
is not terribly important
Mon Jun 28 22:52:13 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:angimarie26 they often go down in pregnancy
Mon Jun 28 22:52:24 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I had the shots after both my children, and they still say
I am low. Oh well, no more shots for me !
Mon Jun 28 22:52:26 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:I am currently nursing my 24 month old and am expecting #3
in October
Mon Jun 28 22:52:47 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Way to go angie!
Mon Jun 28 22:53:09 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Im nursing my 2yr old and 4 month old
Mon Jun 28 22:53:17 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Angi, wonderful!
Mon Jun 28 22:53:43 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Tmama, fantastic mommying
Mon Jun 28 22:53:45 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:Dr. Gordon, I have a nutrition question when the Vaxing Qs
are done.
Mon Jun 28 22:53:54 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:ty Dr. Jay!
Mon Jun 28 22:53:54 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I am after you babysbym :)
Mon Jun 28 22:54:02 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Ready for that change, thebabysbym
Mon Jun 28 22:54:08 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:lol me too :)
Mon Jun 28 22:54:18 2004:ElisaMarie
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Mon Jun 28 22:54:19 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:nursed my ds until he was 3 1/2. dd now at 16 monyhs and
counying.
Mon Jun 28 22:54:24 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:What is your take on fluoride when babys and beckie are
done
Mon Jun 28 22:54:37 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:ok, my son has a long history, but in short, he's 1 year
past his Hirschsprung's Disease take down/pull-through surgery
Mon Jun 28 22:54:39 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:RIGHT CLICK THE PERSON'S NAME IN THE LIST THAT YOU WANT TO
TALK TO, THEN CHOOSE "SEND MESSAGE" TO PRIVATE MESSAGE
Mon Jun 28 22:54:50 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::)
Mon Jun 28 22:54:51 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:our GI specialist has ordered NO JUICE at all for him
Mon Jun 28 22:54:57 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Fl is a toxic mineral and veen if it lessened the number of
cavities, i don't like it
Mon Jun 28 22:55:01 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:he hates veggies so is taking fiber supplements
Mon Jun 28 22:55:14 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:It may actually do some good when "painted" on teeth once
/year
Mon Jun 28 22:55:29 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:is there something besides Cow Milk (he weaned himself last
Tuesday) and water that I can give him?
Mon Jun 28 22:55:33 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:But taken by mouth so that it can get into the saliva and
"bathe" the teeth is not great medicine
Mon Jun 28 22:55:44 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:he's going to be 2 next month
Mon Jun 28 22:55:45 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:thats good to hear because I havent been using the flouride
pills for my son
Mon Jun 28 22:56:21 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I like water as a primary beverage and then rice, soy, oat
milk and smoothies, too
Mon Jun 28 22:56:24 2004:Justine
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Mon Jun 28 22:56:52 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Juice is not good for kids
Mon Jun 28 22:56:55 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Too much sugar
Mon Jun 28 22:56:57 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:why is Fl touted as this wonder for teeth? Even our dentist
who calls himself a holistic dentist was inquiring as to my 6mo old
and 2yr having fl
Mon Jun 28 22:56:58 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Isnt soy not so good due to the estrogen content?
Mon Jun 28 22:57:21 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:How worried should I be about my 3-year-old son's refusal
to eat vegetables?
Mon Jun 28 22:57:22 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:so, smoothies are ok, which milk is best for making them?
Mon Jun 28 22:57:29 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:"Mothering" magazine losttheir mind for a month or so . . .
soy in moderation is very good for all of us
Mon Jun 28 22:57:35 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:(I eat too much)
Mon Jun 28 22:57:40 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:but soy is in everything
Mon Jun 28 22:57:43 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ROFL
Mon Jun 28 22:57:45 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:also, a couple people have told me about Juice Plus...
would you recommend that for a veggie hater?
Mon Jun 28 22:57:49 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:My son likes the flavored soy (choc. and vanilla) - do you
see this as a problem for a 22 mos old? the added sugar?
Mon Jun 28 22:57:51 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:I really agreed with that article
Mon Jun 28 22:57:52 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:almond milk is yummy :)
Mon Jun 28 22:57:52 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:babysbym, any of the "milks"
Mon Jun 28 22:58:10 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:(actually, I eat too much in general)
Mon Jun 28 22:58:12 2004:mashedtater
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Mon Jun 28 22:58:19 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:*laughter*
Mon Jun 28 22:58:20 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:eats too much in general, too
Mon Jun 28 22:58:29 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Tmama, the science was shaky
Mon Jun 28 22:58:36 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:was it?
Mon Jun 28 22:58:44 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and their data were gathered from sources with a bias
Mon Jun 28 22:58:53 2004:Dragonfly
[0/] Msg:So I take it you're not a fan of Weston Price? :)
Mon Jun 28 22:58:55 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:we've also been holding off on ALL nuts. Is it ok to give
him almond milk?
Mon Jun 28 22:59:09 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I tend to compare the soy-eating families with standard
American eaters and the differnce favors soy
Mon Jun 28 22:59:32 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:a varied diet is the best and soy formula does not belong
in the discussion
Mon Jun 28 22:59:43 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:good point
Mon Jun 28 22:59:48 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Weston Price is not my favorite
Mon Jun 28 23:00:09 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:my turn?
Mon Jun 28 23:00:09 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:wat is a good age for starting soy and other "milks"?
Mon Jun 28 23:00:29 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:go beckie, you've been waiting patiently
Mon Jun 28 23:00:33 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:sorry, yourvturn Beckie. :)
Mon Jun 28 23:00:35 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Again, the families I know who use soy daily tend to eat
much, much, much better than "normal" American families
Mon Jun 28 23:00:44 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:thanks for the help, Dr. Gordon
Mon Jun 28 23:00:50 2004:Kimberly
[0/] Msg:Do you believe tri-vi-sol vitamins are necessary for a
nursing infant under 6 mo. old?
Mon Jun 28 23:00:58 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Starting nine months or later
Mon Jun 28 23:01:05 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:I don't agree with Weston Price, but why don't you?
Mon Jun 28 23:01:08 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:okay, I just need a quick and dirty reason why
breastfeeding my two year old is a good thing, to keep noisy
relatives at bay :)
Mon Jun 28 23:01:11 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I also like exclusive BF for well beyond six months when
possible
Mon Jun 28 23:01:23 2004:ElisaMarie
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Mon Jun 28 23:01:32 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Kimberly, those drops are not needed
Mon Jun 28 23:01:34 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Slightly OT - I am a nurse. I had a needle stick while I
was pregnant and they told me my Hep B titers were zero. They will
not vaccinate me b/c I am breastfeeding. Is this a real issue for my
son? My pregnancies and nursing tend to overlap and I'm not
Mon Jun 28 23:01:44 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:There is enough vitamin D in Br milk
Mon Jun 28 23:01:47 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and iron
Mon Jun 28 23:01:49 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and Vit A
Mon Jun 28 23:01:55 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:crazy about being a RN with no Help B immunity
Mon Jun 28 23:02:05 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:hold on CHAVA....beckie is waiting for an answer to her
question first...
Mon Jun 28 23:02:06 2004:Kimberly
[0/] Msg:Good. I haven't been giving them. :)
Mon Jun 28 23:02:07 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:Beckie... http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/criticism.html
Mon Jun 28 23:02:10 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:sorry
Mon Jun 28 23:02:14 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:They all believe that the benefit is long gone past, and
that she is just is spoiled
Mon Jun 28 23:02:15 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:no worries :)
Mon Jun 28 23:02:18 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, the hep B status of the patient is crucial
Mon Jun 28 23:02:26 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:likely negative and you are in the clear
Mon Jun 28 23:02:31 2004:justpeachy
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Mon Jun 28 23:02:32 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:yes
Mon Jun 28 23:02:36 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:the pt. was neg
Mon Jun 28 23:02:38 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and your fetus' risk is close to zero
Mon Jun 28 23:02:57 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:I was wondering if the risk of vaccinating to a bf'ing
infant
Mon Jun 28 23:03:20 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:they refuse to vaccinate me b/c I am breastfeeding my 22
m.o.
Mon Jun 28 23:03:29 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:Beckie...http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html
Mon Jun 28 23:03:45 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:TY for the URL's I will check them out
Mon Jun 28 23:03:50 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:np
Mon Jun 28 23:03:54 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, these people ar enot smart enough to care for you or
your baby
Mon Jun 28 23:03:59 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:lol
Mon Jun 28 23:04:02 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:ROFLMAO
Mon Jun 28 23:04:03 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:That is a level of ignorance not acceptable in 2004
Mon Jun 28 23:04:11 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I am so fustrated with fighting them, and dealing with a
toddler too ;(
Mon Jun 28 23:04:28 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:(((Beckie)))
Mon Jun 28 23:04:41 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Beckie, you are right and they are wrong
Mon Jun 28 23:04:57 2004:lissi
[0/] Msg:I've got a request for some help: My co-sleeping 10 month
old is waking *a lot* at night, sometimes every 20-45 minutes. I'm
exhausted. Any advice?
Mon Jun 28 23:04:58 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The immunity and the comfort and the perfect nutrition are
still present at 2, 3, 4 years of age
Mon Jun 28 23:04:59 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:lets take turns, ladies...how about you let me know if you
have a question and i'll tell you when its your turn, eh? will that
work for you dr jay...some people's questions are getting lost in
the shuffle
Mon Jun 28 23:05:02 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:TY Dr Gordon
Mon Jun 28 23:05:04 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Wondering if I should pick your book tommrow Dr. Jay!
Mon Jun 28 23:05:11 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:Beckie... Just Say "My Doctor Told Me...."
Mon Jun 28 23:05:12 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:so why do so many physicians have such an unacceptable
level of knowlecge about breastfeeding and how wonderful it is? Did
they thing humans ceased being mammals? I honestly don't get it.
Mon Jun 28 23:05:15 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:think
Mon Jun 28 23:05:17 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:I do that quite often
Mon Jun 28 23:05:27 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:he actual told DH, that shut him up fast :)
Mon Jun 28 23:05:56 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Sprite, the smartest and best doc in a graduating class is
called the valedictorian. The dumbest docs in the class are called .
. .
Mon Jun 28 23:06:09 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:"Doctor"!!
Mon Jun 28 23:06:09 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:starting a list....PM me if you have a question...
Mon Jun 28 23:06:25 2004:mashedtater
[0/] Msg:How do you pm?
Mon Jun 28 23:06:36 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Double click her name and another window will come up
Mon Jun 28 23:06:48 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:don't PM me your question, just tell me if you have one and
i'll put you on the list....hope that's ok dr jay? that way folks'
questions aren't lost
Mon Jun 28 23:06:53 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:So true, yet so frightening Dr Gordon!
Mon Jun 28 23:06:59 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:I'm fine
Mon Jun 28 23:07:14 2004:ElisaMarie
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay, I just wanted to thank you. I am nursing a 33
month old who had chronic ear infections until 4 mo ago. Night
nursing was a factor, and your nightweaning technique saved us! TY!
Mon Jun 28 23:07:17 2004:lissi
[0/] Msg:Webmama_Tina Webmama_Tina Webmama_Tina Webmama_Tina
Mon Jun 28 23:07:38 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Elisa, thanks for the kind words
Mon Jun 28 23:07:50 2004:rewardedTmama
[0/] Msg:Nice talking to you Dr. Jay...im headed out
Mon Jun 28 23:08:06 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:pleasure, Tmama'
Mon Jun 28 23:08:07 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:that technique saved me too when my then 13 mo old was
waking every half hour to nurse but not really nursing
Mon Jun 28 23:08:09 2004:angimarie26
[0/] Msg:thank you all! Have a wonderful night! I am off to my water
class
Mon Jun 28 23:08:13 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:Very true Dr Jay, it is just extermely frustrating.Women
and babies deserve better IMO.
Mon Jun 28 23:08:18 2004:rewardedTmama
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Mon Jun 28 23:08:28 2004:bananamama
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Mon Jun 28 23:08:36 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Babies deserve intelligent loving care from their docs
Mon Jun 28 23:08:36 2004:ElisaMarie
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay, are you currently accepting new patients?
Mon Jun 28 23:08:41 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Time, attention, thought
Mon Jun 28 23:08:46 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Not always there, though
Mon Jun 28 23:08:53 2004:Lanie
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Mon Jun 28 23:09:59 2004:ElisaMarie
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Mon Jun 28 23:10:00 2004:ElisaMarie
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Mon Jun 28 23:10:05 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:ok so nevermind, it sounds like dr jay is fine with this
line of questioning....lol....
Mon Jun 28 23:10:23 2004:Dragonfly
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Mon Jun 28 23:10:28 2004:mashedtater
[0/] Msg:perhaps even money and political correctness plays a part
too
Mon Jun 28 23:10:47 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:so why is fl pushed so heavily? even by drs who claim to be
"holisitic"?
Mon Jun 28 23:10:57 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:I have recently been told about Juice Plus as a Whole Food
"supplemet". What is your take on this?
Mon Jun 28 23:11:27 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:dr jay is a chat host pro...he does this every week on aol,
lol, so i guess he knows how to keep up even if the rest of us are
getting dizzy, ROFL
Mon Jun 28 23:11:34 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
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Mon Jun 28 23:11:44 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:a friend has both her children on it and my son likes the
gummies. We just tried them to see if he'd eat them.
Mon Jun 28 23:11:47 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:What do you think of the induction trend? Do you see it
having an impact on breastfeeding and other issues with the newborn?
Mon Jun 28 23:11:52 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Logged off for some reason
Mon Jun 28 23:11:57 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:that's weird
Mon Jun 28 23:12:05 2004:spritemama
[0/] Msg:Thak you Dr Jay fo being here, I have really been helped by
your information for a long time Much apprieciated. :) Good night
Mon Jun 28 23:12:16 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, babies not bornm when they're supposed can be more
difficult nurser
Mon Jun 28 23:12:37 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:could you convey that to your OB collegues please, LOL
Mon Jun 28 23:12:41 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The gummies tatse wonderful because they are mostly sugar
Mon Jun 28 23:12:46 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:or some other sweetener
Mon Jun 28 23:13:05 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:the ingredient list only has fruit extracts or veggie
extracts
Mon Jun 28 23:13:11 2004:spritemama
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Mon Jun 28 23:13:22 2004:Lanie
[0/] Msg:My 11 month old daughter only eats very little in the way
of solids, but nurses wonderfully, should I be concerned
Mon Jun 28 23:13:24 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:I don't have it here b/c I just got a couple from her.
Mon Jun 28 23:13:27 2004:Kimberly
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Mon Jun 28 23:13:28 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The OBs I know vary in their attitudes about induction,
post dates, and so one
Mon Jun 28 23:13:37 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Lanie, no!
Mon Jun 28 23:13:52 2004:Lanie
[0/] Msg:i fib to her ped about it
Mon Jun 28 23:14:02 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:If everything lese is going well and she look sgreat, is
getting ready to stand and walk and so on, she's fine
Mon Jun 28 23:14:15 2004:lissi
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Mon Jun 28 23:14:23 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Breast milk is better tnan solids and ends soon enough
Mon Jun 28 23:14:30 2004:lissi
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Mon Jun 28 23:14:35 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:too soon... sniff sniff
Mon Jun 28 23:14:43 2004:ElisaMarie
[0/] Msg:Lanie, mine ate *very * little until she was 2+. She's
healthy and on track with both size and development. No worries. :)
Mon Jun 28 23:14:44 2004:Lanie
[0/] Msg:oh yeah she is all of those, 26 lbs too LOL
Mon Jun 28 23:14:46 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:my dd didn't even START really eating solids til after a
year! so i second that, LANIE
Mon Jun 28 23:15:11 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Lanie, your doctor can see?
Mon Jun 28 23:15:22 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Then he should know that whatever you're doing is working
great
Mon Jun 28 23:15:22 2004:Crystal_in_Alaska
[0/] Msg:*laughter*
Mon Jun 28 23:15:23 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Any truth to the rumor that infants that have delayed intro
of solids tend to refuse solids?
Mon Jun 28 23:15:40 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, normal babies, no
Mon Jun 28 23:15:44 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:back to nutrition- why don't you like weston price?
Mon Jun 28 23:15:44 2004:Lanie
[0/] Msg:i think so as well
Mon Jun 28 23:15:54 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:what is Weston Price?
Mon Jun 28 23:15:57 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Babies with developmental or motor problems are another
issue
Mon Jun 28 23:16:03 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:ah, ok
Mon Jun 28 23:16:04 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:That's why I qualify my answers
Mon Jun 28 23:16:06 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 23:16:22 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:If other things are not right, food aversion has to be
viewed in a differnt light
Mon Jun 28 23:16:25 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 23:16:27 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:I think they are basing the info in a study done on
children with developmental problems, now that you mention it
Mon Jun 28 23:16:28 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:as part of a larger problem
Mon Jun 28 23:16:32 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Tis is VERY rare
Mon Jun 28 23:16:50 2004:angimarie26
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Mon Jun 28 23:16:57 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:**just to let y'all know again...for those joining us
late....lets keep the side conversations to private message....right
click on a person's name and choose "send message"....***
Mon Jun 28 23:17:31 2004:ElisaMarie
[0/] Msg:Dr. Jay, if you answered I missed it...are you currently
accepting new patients?
Mon Jun 28 23:18:37 2004:bluebell
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Mon Jun 28 23:18:45 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Can we take this out of the realm of babies and brestfeding
for a moment for a question about a 12 year old?
Mon Jun 28 23:19:01 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Elisa, yes
Mon Jun 28 23:19:07 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, yes
Mon Jun 28 23:19:19 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Elisa, I'm booked a couple months in advance, thoug
Mon Jun 28 23:19:23 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:My 12 year old son is about 10 lbs overweight. he is 75%
tile for weight, 33%percentile for height
Mon Jun 28 23:19:33 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, cheese and chips
Mon Jun 28 23:19:39 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:He is not a junk food kid
Mon Jun 28 23:19:43 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:cheese, yes
Mon Jun 28 23:19:44 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and lack of exercise are the most common causes
Mon Jun 28 23:19:56 2004:ElisaMarie
[0/] Msg:TY...I'll call the office. :)
Mon Jun 28 23:19:58 2004:mashedtater
[0/] Msg:What are dr's taught about intact boys? My ped is good in
that he hasn't tried to retract..but he thinks I should manipulate
it to "help" it detatch..which I ignore
Mon Jun 28 23:20:02 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:he does Tae Kwon Do daily and bike rides
Mon Jun 28 23:20:09 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:If I could remove one food from kids' lives, it wold be the
ultimate junk food: CHEESE
Mon Jun 28 23:20:27 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Mashed, decent doc
Mon Jun 28 23:20:28 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:can you expand on that dr jay?
Mon Jun 28 23:20:41 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:so I'm wondering if this is 'normal' adolescent weight gain
before a growth spurt or if I should be looking into it more?
Mon Jun 28 23:20:47 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:**and those who have to miss some of this chat, i'm going
to be posting the transcripts to mommychats later...join the egroup
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mommychats to get the announcement
and link when its up***
Mon Jun 28 23:20:49 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:both about intact boys and chesse
Mon Jun 28 23:20:51 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:We learn almost nothing about intact boys and most peds
think that there's a time when the foreskin has to retract
Mon Jun 28 23:21:10 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:**if you click on a URL in this chat, it opens in a new
window**
Mon Jun 28 23:21:20 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:LOL, Marisa!!
Mon Jun 28 23:21:25 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Chava, if he's a cheese eater and the family tends a little
in "that" direction, pay close attention, please
Mon Jun 28 23:21:38 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 23:21:55 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:actually, the rest of the family is quite thin - except for
me
Mon Jun 28 23:22:02 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Cheese has more calories per serving than almost anything
Mon Jun 28 23:22:04 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:no fiber
Mon Jun 28 23:22:15 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:very few vits, calcium we may or may not need
Mon Jun 28 23:22:20 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and lots of fat
Mon Jun 28 23:22:25 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and we all grow to LOVE it
Mon Jun 28 23:22:28 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:Cheese is the only way I get my calcium.
Mon Jun 28 23:22:30 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:no wonder it tastes so good... tee hee
Mon Jun 28 23:22:38 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 23:22:43 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and learning modertaion is not an adolescent's strong suit
Mon Jun 28 23:22:51 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:so what is your take on calcium and dairy?
Mon Jun 28 23:22:55 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Cheese is not a good way to get calcium
Mon Jun 28 23:22:59 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:all my other kids are technically "underweight" - but yes,
moderation is DEFINATELY an issue for my 12 year old
Mon Jun 28 23:23:08 2004:lissi
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Mon Jun 28 23:23:09 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Pills would be better and they're certainly not the best
way either
Mon Jun 28 23:23:12 2004:bibi26
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Mon Jun 28 23:23:12 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:I know, I just don't like milk.
Mon Jun 28 23:23:35 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Marisa, "google" willett/milk/fractures
Mon Jun 28 23:23:46 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:didn't think that milk was a good way to get calcium either
Mon Jun 28 23:23:50 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:what's the best way to get calcium then?
Mon Jun 28 23:23:58 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:The huge Harvard study shows that the more milk women drink
in their lives, thge more likely they are to break bones
Mon Jun 28 23:23:59 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:!!!
Mon Jun 28 23:24:05 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Dark greens
Mon Jun 28 23:24:13 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:I actually had read that I think.
Mon Jun 28 23:24:22 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:good thing i'm lactose intolerant then, LOL
Mon Jun 28 23:24:31 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:me too :)
Mon Jun 28 23:24:34 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and, I guess, fortified beverages
Mon Jun 28 23:24:39 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:and my dd adores soy milk, and is not all that fond of "moo
milk"
Mon Jun 28 23:24:47 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:beans, nuts, greens
Mon Jun 28 23:24:53 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:good work tina
Mon Jun 28 23:24:58 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg::)
Mon Jun 28 23:25:03 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:(I have to go soon)
Mon Jun 28 23:25:11 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:My mil is petrified that my kids don't get enough calcium
because we don't do dairy much but we eat lots of nuts, beans,
greens carrots, etc
Mon Jun 28 23:25:12 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:and in nursing school they teach you that the calcium in
dark greens is mostly bound up with what? oxilate? and not available
Mon Jun 28 23:25:20 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:well you've stayed way longer than anticipated....thankyou
so much!
Mon Jun 28 23:25:32 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:i'd love to have you again sometime, if you're up to it
Mon Jun 28 23:25:33 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:This whole "Got Milk" campaign thing has really wreaked
havoc in my life.. I've never been fond of the idea of humans
drinking the milk of another species, but everyone is so sure that
I'm awful for not giving my kids milk
Mon Jun 28 23:25:36 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:Thank you!
Mon Jun 28 23:25:46 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:Thank you Dr. Jay!!
Mon Jun 28 23:25:48 2004:ElisaMarie
[0/] Msg:Thank You! :)
Mon Jun 28 23:25:53 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:thank you for popping in
Mon Jun 28 23:25:55 2004:Lanie
[0/] Msg:g-night thanks
Mon Jun 28 23:25:56 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Your MIL is misinformed. The dairy industry spends hundreds
of millions of dollars every years trying to convince us that . . .
b;ack is white
Mon Jun 28 23:26:04 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:and they have succeed for the most part
Mon Jun 28 23:26:09 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:Thank you so much for coming! I really appreciate all your
information, Dr. Gordon.
Mon Jun 28 23:26:10 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:milk weakens bones
Mon Jun 28 23:26:19 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:she also says she is a OT and knows because that is what
they taught her in med school
Mon Jun 28 23:26:25 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:look up the Harvard study of 40,000 women over many decades
Mon Jun 28 23:26:33 2004:seinla
[0/] Msg:wish my husband was here to read this ... always getting
onto me about drinking more milk
Mon Jun 28 23:26:54 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:SEINLA....it will be on mommychats later...i'll be posting
the transcripts
Mon Jun 28 23:26:59 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Marisa, she's wrong and you can show it to her in writing
Mon Jun 28 23:27:11 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:you go dr jay! LOL
Mon Jun 28 23:27:11 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:She's probably heard of Harvard Medical School
Mon Jun 28 23:27:19 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:*laughter*
Mon Jun 28 23:27:23 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:They're the ones who have done the major research
Mon Jun 28 23:27:24 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:roflmao
Mon Jun 28 23:27:25 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:LOL thank you
Mon Jun 28 23:27:27 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:*evil*
Mon Jun 28 23:27:33 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:LOL
Mon Jun 28 23:27:42 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:oh you funny guy
Mon Jun 28 23:27:46 2004:Beckie
[0/] Msg:Thank you Dr Gordon! This was great!!
Mon Jun 28 23:27:53 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:thankyou so much dr jay!
Mon Jun 28 23:27:57 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:<---runs to buy your book
Mon Jun 28 23:27:57 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:OK, I will run off now. Thank you all!!!!!
Mon Jun 28 23:28:02 2004:QuietishElf
[0/] Msg:Thank YOU
Mon Jun 28 23:28:04 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:let me know if you'd like to do it again sometime
Mon Jun 28 23:28:05 2004:thebabysbym
[0/] Msg:Thanks!
Mon Jun 28 23:28:06 2004:Shannon
[0/] Msg:THANK YOU!!
Mon Jun 28 23:28:07 2004:mashedtater
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Mon Jun 28 23:28:13 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Tina, I'd love to
Mon Jun 28 23:28:14 2004:marisa
[0/] Msg:thank you again
Mon Jun 28 23:28:18 2004:Chava
[0/] Msg:good night!
Mon Jun 28 23:28:21 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
[0/] Msg:Night all! Thanks!!!
Mon Jun 28 23:28:27 2004:Webmama_Tina
[0/] Msg:and y'all are free to stick around if you want to chat
amongst yourselves
Mon Jun 28 23:28:29 2004:Dr_Jay_Gordon
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