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12:03:48 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
OFFICIAL START OF EMOTIONAL LIVES OF CHILDREN CHAT |
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12:04:00 |
lovthatlea |
k.....I'm Wendy of
www.vaccinetruth.com |
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12:04:14 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Wendy, do you want to say more? |
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12:04:27 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Like where you are based? |
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12:04:46 |
lovthatlea |
I could go on forever about vaccines should you wish! :) |
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12:05:06 |
lovthatlea |
I am in Florida, gainesville area |
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12:05:29 |
shannon562 |
hello |
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12:05:35 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Do you just have your website, or what else do you do in
terms of vaccine awareness? |
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12:05:50 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Hi Shannon, we are having introductions of our guests |
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12:06:34 |
lovthatlea |
I give talks about vaccines at our local college and
anyone that stands within a certain radius of me gets a
vaccine lecture! |
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12:06:48 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
:) |
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12:07:00 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Great, Kimberley, do you want to introduce yourself? |
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12:07:06 |
kimmedlin |
Yes.... |
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12:07:09 |
lovthatlea |
I also hand out flyers at the local health dept until I
am thrown out |
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12:07:09 |
vaclib |
Sara, just logged on. This is Ingri/vaclib. Hi everyone! |
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12:07:17 |
kimmedlin |
Kimberley Medlin here..... |
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12:07:18 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Hi! |
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12:07:25 |
lovthatlea |
Hi! |
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12:07:42 |
kimmedlin |
I am the Director for the Vaclib (Arizona) |
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12:07:55 |
kimmedlin |
my website is
www.vaccinationsandSIDS.com |
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12:08:05 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Do you want to say more? |
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12:08:16 |
kimmedlin |
I worked side-by-side on the Janet Burton Case |
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12:08:24 |
vaclib |
I am the director of VacLib national and co-director of
our Idaho chapter.
www.vaccinetruth.com |
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12:08:46 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
VacLib is Ingri |
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12:09:07 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Kimberely, do you want to say briefly what the janet
burton case was |
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12:09:14 |
kimmedlin |
Yes.... |
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12:10:01 |
kimmedlin |
The father of Janet's two children managed to get the
Arizona court to order vaccinations |
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12:10:02 |
vaclib |
If anyone wants to know more about the Janet Burton
case, they can do a simple google search and Kimberly's
website and ours will come up with the entire story of
forced vaccination at the hands of the state of Arizona |
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12:10:37 |
kimmedlin |
The youngest of the two has now developed asthma and his
pupillary reflex has been damaged. |
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12:11:02 |
kimmedlin |
Currently, the case isat a rest"" |
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12:11:05 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
The parents were divorced? |
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12:11:16 |
kimmedlin |
Yes, they were divorced |
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12:11:20 |
lovthatlea |
they were unvaxxed until 6 right? |
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12:11:26 |
kimmedlin |
yes |
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12:11:44 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
I see we are getting more chatters.. |
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12:11:47 |
lovthatlea |
So it is easy to see the damage in a healthy kid |
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12:12:07 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Let's finish with the introductions so we can start with
questions |
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12:12:21 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Ingri, would you like to say anything more about
yourself? |
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12:13:14 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
Hi i have done that... |
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12:13:32 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Hi Swathi |
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12:13:36 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
Hi |
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12:13:37 |
vaclib |
I am a new grandma and come from a non-vaccinating,
non-doctoring family. We started VacLib due to the
incredible pressure from the state and doctors to force
this form of medical experimentation on our children. |
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12:14:07 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
When did you start it? |
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12:14:41 |
vaclib |
In 1998 with the Idaho chapter. In 2000 we went national
and got our website up. |
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12:15:25 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Let's start with questions. If you have a question,
type a ?" in an I will start a queue." |
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12:16:06 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Do any of you have questions for the guests? |
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12:16:25 |
dddevane |
There are other non-vac groups out there. What did you
think was missing in that you felt the need to start a
different non-vac org? |
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12:17:16 |
dddevane |
I'm sorry for not following the format :banghead |
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12:17:27 |
kimmedlin |
Unlike many groups, VacLib is not about being
politically correct |
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12:17:29 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
That's okay, you can be first! |
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12:17:38 |
lovthatlea |
So many of them don't tell the whole truth...like some
just want the mercury out of vaccines...there is so much
more to them |
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12:18:04 |
kimmedlin |
VacLib is against vaccines entirely |
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12:18:13 |
vaclib |
I am not aware of any other non-vax groups. There are
pro-choice and informed choice groups but there was
nothing in our state at the time. In 2000, when we had
70 members in our state, we attempted to join NVIC and
was told that they would not accept us as an affiliated
chapter due to our anti-vax stance |
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12:18:30 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Wow! |
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12:18:50 |
lovthatlea |
a lot of the others are bigpharma backed as well |
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12:19:08 |
dddevane |
? So are you saying the the non-vax groups are not
REALLY non-vax? |
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12:19:24 |
kimmedlin |
Most are not |
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12:19:33 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Can you say which ones ar big pharma backed? |
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12:19:57 |
kimmedlin |
suspicion rests on NVIC |
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12:20:05 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Wow! |
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12:20:10 |
lovthatlea |
some of them....haven't you seen the whole safer
vaccine" kick they are on? As if there is a safe
vaccine" |
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12:20:41 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Can yo u expalin why there is no such thing as a safe
vaccine? |
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12:20:52 |
vaclib |
I should clarify, we were members of NVIC -- they just
didn't want us to be an NVIC chapter... Yes, the other
groups out there will not profess to be anti-vax since
they depend on funding and a 501(c)3 non-profit status.
We are a totally volunteer network with no corporate
funding. |
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12:21:27 |
lovthatlea |
Sure you can't inject hideous poisons into children and
think nothing will happen |
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12:21:32 |
kimmedlin |
There were problems with the first vaccines |
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12:22:14 |
vaclib |
Every ingredient in vaccines is foreign to the body and
most ingredients such as formaldehyde, thimerosal and
aluminum are also carcinogens |
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12:22:28 |
kimmedlin |
smallpox and polio were never eradicated by the vaccine |
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12:22:33 |
lovthatlea |
one quick check of the ingredients will
explain.....aluminum, formaldahyde, mercury, RNA and DNA
from diseased animal tissue...yuck |
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12:22:49 |
lovthatlea |
how could this somehow be helpful? |
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12:23:01 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
?so what do you suggest, we don't give vaccines to kids |
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12:23:16 |
kimmedlin |
exactly |
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12:23:19 |
lovthatlea |
The would be a big YES! |
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12:24:10 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
but for school admissions we have the immunization card
right |
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12:24:11 |
kimmedlin |
There are no credible health/risk analysis on
vaccinations unaccompanied by conflict of interest |
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12:24:12 |
vaclib |
The more you research, the more you will truly want to
protect your kids from injections of all kinds. Love
Them, Protect Them, Never Inject Them -- a jingle Dewey
came up with (our webservant)" |
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12:24:41 |
lovthatlea |
NO.....in most states exemptions are easy.... |
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12:24:54 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Swathi, what state are you in? |
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12:24:59 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
CA |
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12:25:08 |
kimmedlin |
California is easy |
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12:25:11 |
lovthatlea |
Easiest state! |
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12:25:11 |
vaclib |
If you send your child to public school, you can ask for
an exemption form. You can also access these exemptions
and your state law on our website
www.vaclib.org |
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12:25:36 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
Thanks |
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12:25:39 |
kimmedlin |
county health department offices also provide these
exemption forms upon request |
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12:26:04 |
lovthatlea |
The school will try and trick you into believing they
are mandatory ...they are not |
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12:26:10 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Forget about the queue... if you have a question, just
jump in |
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12:26:38 |
lovthatlea |
anyone have an unvaxxed baby? |
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12:26:42 |
kimmedlin |
that is because teh school receives $50-$100 per
registered child inoculated |
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12:26:50 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
yes. me |
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12:27:02 |
lovthatlea |
I know Ingri's is what 20 and unvaxxed? |
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12:27:05 |
ourwiefamily |
I havve 5 unvaxed children (11yo down to 7mo) and one
partially vaxed child (now 13yo) |
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12:27:24 |
lovthatlea |
Oh!!! how wonderful!!! |
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12:27:36 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
wow, the school only receives $$ if they are innoculated? |
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12:27:38 |
vaclib |
Do you notice that your baby is healthier than their
vaccinated peers"?" |
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12:27:50 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Yes, I've noticed that for sure |
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12:27:52 |
ourwiefamily |
Is there ever a time when the benefits of vaxing
outweigh risks? Just wondering for third world travel
in particular. |
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12:27:59 |
lovthatlea |
I have a page on my site of unvaxxed children ...just
for moms to see they are fine... |
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12:27:59 |
kimmedlin |
School districts also receive up to $100 per child on
ritalin |
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12:28:14 |
kimmedlin |
there are NO benefits |
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12:28:16 |
lovthatlea |
never..... |
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12:28:32 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
Whoa! who gives them the $$$ big pharma |
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12:28:45 |
vaclib |
I believe that Dr. Tenpenny is addressing this thrid
world question in a future Mothering mag column |
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12:28:58 |
swathi_pathak@yahoo.comn |
In what way are unvaxxed kids healthy? |
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12:29:00 |
lovthatlea |
Good I love her stuff |
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12:29:13 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
She did answer a question recently for a mom traveling
to India |
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12:29:23 |
vaclib |
Also, if you want more info. on this, I have a lot so
email me off this chat vaclib@coldreams.com |
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12:29:25 |
Mod_SarahPhD |
THe question/answer are online |
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12:29:32 |
ourwiefamily |
No, I have not seen that my unvaxed babies are all
healthier ... I have one child (my 11yo) who had a
severe milk protein allergy who was very very ill a lot
despite not being vaxed ~ I just also think he may have
been *worse* if we had vaxed. |
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12:29:40 |
kimmedlin |
There are pharma representatives that sit on the CDC
immmunization advisory board. This board makes up the
reccomendations |
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12:30:09 |
kimmedlin |
Also making up the schedule |
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12:30:12 |
lovthatlea |
Milk is also hideous....my kids have never had it. |
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12:30:31 |
Liba |
sorry, I got called away at work, but I have a couple
questions... we are moving to Israel soon and Hep A
shots have been highly recomended for our whole family
and I just recently got a huge lecture on the dangers of
chickenpox... does the shot even work |
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12:30:44 |
lovthatlea |
no.. |
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